Do you know what Friends Meeting she was a member of? Both here and in Ohio? Most of the early Frazier were Friends. I go to meeting with a Frazier Family, I have barrowed their Frazier book before, so I will ask them to see if they can find an entry for this family in it. If your Absalom was not a Friend, I suspect that Catherine would have been discharged of her membership for marriage outside of the Society, or they could of also been been discharged for marriage outside of the meeting by having a civil marriage, which obviously they did since you found a record of it in the courthouse. They could of asked for forgivenous for this and that would be in a minute as well of that meeting monthly meeting. If when they moved to Iowa and either of them were still a Friend, then they would of asked for a travel minute or a minute of care to be taken to their new home in Iowa where that minute would have been read and made record of in that meeting's minutes and they would have been accepted as a member there that way. Ah, so much to look for. Many meeting's have their old minutes archived, and are stored with various Yearly Meeting Collections. Andrea

Hi and thanks, I have been in the 1885 Iowa census, but I don't remember looking in the 1865 census (this was long before I had a computer). I do know if I had, I would have most likely been looking in the wrong place. I have not had much luck with Absalom and land records. At least he didn't own any in Washington county--or rather I never found any. (I lived in Iowa in the early 1980s and had done some research, I've also used the microfilm from the FHLC). But again, its only recently I found them in the 1870 census--in Des Moines County (a surprise). In 1850 Catherine Dill was living in Ohio with her mother and siblings--I have not found Absalom in the 1850 census, but there is an A.M. Frazier of the right age in Franklin Co, Ohio. Since Catherine's family was Quaker, I have my *suspicions* that the Francis Frazier (a Quaker) living in Randolph County is a relative of my Absalom (combined with the fact that he is related to 3 of the 5 Absaloms I have found). The child Catherine and Absalom had adopted was their illegitimate granddaughter (my 1/2 great aunt). Christina > You can narrow down when they moved a few ways that I know > of. Look for them > in the Iowa State Census of 1865, which I am searching for > right now. The > other would be to look for a land sale in the > recorder's office in the > Randolph County Courthouse. That's pretty easy to look > for, they are in > date order in big books. I have noticed in some papers > locally, that when a > family sold out and moved it was put in the paper, now that > you would have > to look through the local papers available through the > Indiana State > Library. Another thing is to look for them in the 1865 > wall map of Randolph > County IN. I did find them in the 1885 Iowa State Census > living in > Washington Ward 3, Washington Township, they adopted a > little girl according > to that, she was born in Washington Township, Frank age 17 > born in Louisa Co > Iowa, and Bert age 15 born in Louisa Co as well. Have you > done a page by > page search for them in 1850 census for Randolph County in > the same township > you found them in 1860? The museum has a different index > for that year > (1850), it lists every Frazier grouped together, it was > done locally, so you > might find his parents through that index if he moved here > with them and > still lived at home, which could be if he married in 1853, > you never know > when you will have a breakthrough. Andrea

Sorry, I see that ancestry doesn't have a census record between 1860 and 1870 for Iowa, I just figured they would, but a lot of odd years are on there, just not helpful ones for you. Bummer, Andrea. -----Original Message----- From: inrandol-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:inrandol-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Christina Wilson Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:49 PM To: undisclosed recipients: Subject: [INRANDOL] Absalom Frazier I'm hoping (fervently) that someone has come across the parents and/or siblings of my Absalom Frazier, born about 1828-32 in or around Ohio. The first confirmed date I have of his existence is 17 Nov 1853 when he married Catherine Dill in Randolph County, Indiana. The family lived there in 1860, but moved sometime before 1870 to Iowa (Des Moines County in 1870 census, Louisa either before or after 1870). They were in Washington County, Iowa by 1885. A little note I'd made said he had brothers living in Louisa County. If true (and that's still a big if), a brother could be Elliot Frazier son of Alvis Frazier. Does anyone have information on my concrete-enforced brickwall? Absalom has been a dead end for 30 years! Christina PS he is NOT the Absalom Frazier born about 1828 in Kentucky--that one is still living in Kentucky in 1880. ******************************** Please Visit The Randolph County INGenWeb Project http://www.ingenweb.org/inrandolph/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INRANDOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You can narrow down when they moved a few ways that I know of. Look for them in the Iowa State Census of 1865, which I am searching for right now. The other would be to look for a land sale in the recorder's office in the Randolph County Courthouse. That's pretty easy to look for, they are in date order in big books. I have noticed in some papers locally, that when a family sold out and moved it was put in the paper, now that you would have to look through the local papers available through the Indiana State Library. Another thing is to look for them in the 1865 wall map of Randolph County IN. I did find them in the 1885 Iowa State Census living in Washington Ward 3, Washington Township, they adopted a little girl according to that, she was born in Washington Township, Frank age 17 born in Louisa Co Iowa, and Bert age 15 born in Louisa Co as well. Have you done a page by page search for them in 1850 census for Randolph County in the same township you found them in 1860? The museum has a different index for that year (1850), it lists every Frazier grouped together, it was done locally, so you might find his parents through that index if he moved here with them and still lived at home, which could be if he married in 1853, you never know when you will have a breakthrough. Andrea -----Original Message----- From: inrandol-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:inrandol-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Christina Wilson Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:49 PM To: undisclosed recipients: Subject: [INRANDOL] Absalom Frazier I'm hoping (fervently) that someone has come across the parents and/or siblings of my Absalom Frazier, born about 1828-32 in or around Ohio. The first confirmed date I have of his existence is 17 Nov 1853 when he married Catherine Dill in Randolph County, Indiana. The family lived there in 1860, but moved sometime before 1870 to Iowa (Des Moines County in 1870 census, Louisa either before or after 1870). They were in Washington County, Iowa by 1885. A little note I'd made said he had brothers living in Louisa County. If true (and that's still a big if), a brother could be Elliot Frazier son of Alvis Frazier. Does anyone have information on my concrete-enforced brickwall? Absalom has been a dead end for 30 years! Christina PS he is NOT the Absalom Frazier born about 1828 in Kentucky--that one is still living in Kentucky in 1880. ******************************** Please Visit The Randolph County INGenWeb Project http://www.ingenweb.org/inrandolph/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INRANDOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kayemfreehling Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.indiana.counties.randolph/3352/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I am looking for information on Howard Thomas Warren and Katherine Jeanette Huston. Howard Thomas Warren was b. 3-22-1908. And his parents were Frank Warren and Iva UNKOWN. Howard Thomas Warren died 11-3-1989 at 11:50 p.m. Wayne Hospital Greenville, Darke, OH. His siblings were: Betha and Mabel. Katherine Jeanette Huston was born 6-1-1918 and I don't know who her parents were. Her siblings were: Aron, Del, Gariss, Clinton, Wayne, Garvess. She passed away on 7-12-2007 and her last residence (meaning this is where she was living when she died) was Greenville, Darke, OH. Also about Frank Warren is that he ran a grocery store, and so did his father John Thomas Warren. I would also like to know more about Frank's wife Ivy. If anyone has any information please share! Kaye Marie (Warren) Freehling Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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I'm hoping (fervently) that someone has come across the parents and/or siblings of my Absalom Frazier, born about 1828-32 in or around Ohio. The first confirmed date I have of his existence is 17 Nov 1853 when he married Catherine Dill in Randolph County, Indiana. The family lived there in 1860, but moved sometime before 1870 to Iowa (Des Moines County in 1870 census, Louisa either before or after 1870). They were in Washington County, Iowa by 1885. A little note I'd made said he had brothers living in Louisa County. If true (and that's still a big if), a brother could be Elliot Frazier son of Alvis Frazier. Does anyone have information on my concrete-enforced brickwall? Absalom has been a dead end for 30 years! Christina PS he is NOT the Absalom Frazier born about 1828 in Kentucky--that one is still living in Kentucky in 1880.

The second one is the gravel pit beside the Maxville Swimming Pool and when I was little nobody was "allowed" to swim there........not that that stopped the adventurous boys ...........phd -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Andrea" <andrea.genealogy@pceaze.com> > http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.172676,-85.113487&spn=0.00869,0.013626 > &t=h&z=16 This is the pond/lake that you cannot see from 32, it is in the > trailer park. I was thinking that this is Mills Lake, but I don't know for > sure. I know there is a sign along 32 when you are going though Maxville, > but is that the name on it???? > > http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.173184,-85.097458&spn=0.00869,0.013626 > &t=h&z=16 This is the other lake, the one in front of the cemetery that I > was wondering about being the swimming hole. Andrea > > > ******************************** > Please Visit The Randolph County INGenWeb Project > http://www.ingenweb.org/inrandolph/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INRANDOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

This might also be a question for Allen County Library. It's a subject they could cover in their newsletter. ----- Original Message ----- From: Nicole La Rue To: inrandol@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [INRANDOL] Newbie with a question on marriage Exactly! I found a very helpful librarian at the Indiana State Library who is looking into some things for me, hopefully I'll hear back from her soon. I'm going to ask around at the Randolph Historical Society also, as was suggested. Between the two I may be able to get a better picture on what was going on with Randolph Co. marriages at this time. Nicole LaRue --- On Tue, 10/21/08, unicorn1945@comcast.net <unicorn1945@comcast.net> wrote: > From: unicorn1945@comcast.net <unicorn1945@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [INRANDOL] Newbie with a question on marriage > To: nikkisbc@yahoo.com, inrandol@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 8:50 AM > There is always the chance that she had no one to stand up > for her or was emancipated for some reason. There again, > you'd need to know if she could marry without some sort > of documentation to verify her age. > Shirley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nicole La Rue > To: inrandol@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 8:34 AM > Subject: Re: [INRANDOL] Newbie with a question on > marriage > > > > Thanks very much for your response. So the clerk's > office would information on what the marriage laws were at > the time then? What's bothering me about this marriage > certificate is the no witnesses part, no one to stand up for > the bride. From what I can figure from her death record and > from later census schedules, she would have been around > 16/17 at the time of the marriage so I would have thought > someone would have stood up for her. That is assuming that > she would have admitted to being underage at the time of her > marriage. But even if she didn't, wouldn't she have > had to find someone who would confirm her age? This missing > piece is just nagging at me for some reason and I'd love > to be able to figure out what the state of affairs was at > the time. > > Nicole LaRue > > > > --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Andrea > <andrea.genealogy@pceaze.com> wrote: > > > From: Andrea <andrea.genealogy@pceaze.com> > > Subject: RE: [INRANDOL] Newbie with a question on > marriage > > To: nikkisbc@yahoo.com, inrandol@rootsweb.com > > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 12:38 AM > > Yes, this is typical of that time period. The > museum has > > marriage bonds, > > where someone would swear that the bride was of age, > or > > that the couple had > > permission, but I don't think that year is a > part of > > the collection that we > > have. Contact the museum for more information on > how to > > find more out. > > www.randolphcountyindianahistoricalsociety.org > These were > > filed at the > > clerks office at the Randolph County Courthouse. You > would > > need to inquire > > about the laws governing marriages through the > clerks > > office as well, I > > would think. Andrea > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Subject: [INRANDOL] Newbie with a question on > marriage > > > > 1855 marriage certificate and there were no > witnesses > > present, and no > > parental consent given, wondering if this was > typical of > > the > > Any info would be greatly appreciated. Nikki > > > > ******************************** > Please Visit The Randolph County INGenWeb Project > http://www.ingenweb.org/inrandolph/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INRANDOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1733 - Release > Date: 10/19/2008 6:02 PM ******************************** Please Visit The Randolph County INGenWeb Project http://www.ingenweb.org/inrandolph/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INRANDOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1733 - Release Date: 10/19/2008 6:02 PM

There is always the chance that she had no one to stand up for her or was emancipated for some reason. There again, you'd need to know if she could marry without some sort of documentation to verify her age. Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: Nicole La Rue To: inrandol@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [INRANDOL] Newbie with a question on marriage Thanks very much for your response. So the clerk's office would information on what the marriage laws were at the time then? What's bothering me about this marriage certificate is the no witnesses part, no one to stand up for the bride. From what I can figure from her death record and from later census schedules, she would have been around 16/17 at the time of the marriage so I would have thought someone would have stood up for her. That is assuming that she would have admitted to being underage at the time of her marriage. But even if she didn't, wouldn't she have had to find someone who would confirm her age? This missing piece is just nagging at me for some reason and I'd love to be able to figure out what the state of affairs was at the time. Nicole LaRue --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Andrea <andrea.genealogy@pceaze.com> wrote: > From: Andrea <andrea.genealogy@pceaze.com> > Subject: RE: [INRANDOL] Newbie with a question on marriage > To: nikkisbc@yahoo.com, inrandol@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 12:38 AM > Yes, this is typical of that time period. The museum has > marriage bonds, > where someone would swear that the bride was of age, or > that the couple had > permission, but I don't think that year is a part of > the collection that we > have. Contact the museum for more information on how to > find more out. > www.randolphcountyindianahistoricalsociety.org These were > filed at the > clerks office at the Randolph County Courthouse. You would > need to inquire > about the laws governing marriages through the clerks > office as well, I > would think. Andrea > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: [INRANDOL] Newbie with a question on marriage > > 1855 marriage certificate and there were no witnesses > present, and no > parental consent given, wondering if this was typical of > the > Any info would be greatly appreciated. Nikki ******************************** Please Visit The Randolph County INGenWeb Project http://www.ingenweb.org/inrandolph/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INRANDOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1733 - Release Date: 10/19/2008 6:02 PM

I hadn't thought of that, it would be worth a try. Although from what I've seen so far, there aren't very many Randolph Co records in circulation so I'm not sure what they would be able to tell me. I'll definitely ask though! Thanks for the suggestion. Nicole LaRue --- On Tue, 10/21/08, unicorn1945@comcast.net <unicorn1945@comcast.net> wrote: > From: unicorn1945@comcast.net <unicorn1945@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [INRANDOL] Newbie with a question on marriage > To: nikkisbc@yahoo.com, inrandol@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 9:38 AM > This might also be a question for Allen County Library. > It's a subject they could cover in their newsletter. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nicole La Rue > To: inrandol@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:06 AM > Subject: Re: [INRANDOL] Newbie with a question on > marriage > > > > > Exactly! I found a very helpful librarian at the Indiana > State Library who is looking into some things for me, > hopefully I'll hear back from her soon. I'm going > to ask around at the Randolph Historical Society also, as > was suggested. Between the two I may be able to get a > better picture on what was going on with Randolph Co. > marriages at this time. > > Nicole LaRue > > > --- On Tue, 10/21/08, unicorn1945@comcast.net > <unicorn1945@comcast.net> wrote: > > > From: unicorn1945@comcast.net > <unicorn1945@comcast.net> > > Subject: Re: [INRANDOL] Newbie with a question on > marriage > > To: nikkisbc@yahoo.com, inrandol@rootsweb.com > > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 8:50 AM > > There is always the chance that she had no one to > stand up > > for her or was emancipated for some reason. There > again, > > you'd need to know if she could marry without > some sort > > of documentation to verify her age. > > Shirley > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Nicole La Rue > > To: inrandol@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 8:34 AM > > Subject: Re: [INRANDOL] Newbie with a question on > > marriage > > > > > > > > Thanks very much for your response. So the > clerk's > > office would information on what the marriage laws > were at > > the time then? What's bothering me about this > marriage > > certificate is the no witnesses part, no one to > stand up for > > the bride. From what I can figure from her death > record and > > from later census schedules, she would have been > around > > 16/17 at the time of the marriage so I would have > thought > > someone would have stood up for her. That is > assuming that > > she would have admitted to being underage at the > time of her > > marriage. But even if she didn't, wouldn't > she have > > had to find someone who would confirm her age? This > missing > > piece is just nagging at me for some reason and > I'd love > > to be able to figure out what the state of affairs > was at > > the time. > > > > Nicole LaRue > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Andrea > > <andrea.genealogy@pceaze.com> wrote: > > > > > From: Andrea > <andrea.genealogy@pceaze.com> > > > Subject: RE: [INRANDOL] Newbie with a > question on > > marriage > > > To: nikkisbc@yahoo.com, inrandol@rootsweb.com > > > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 12:38 AM > > > Yes, this is typical of that time period. > The > > museum has > > > marriage bonds, > > > where someone would swear that the bride was > of age, > > or > > > that the couple had > > > permission, but I don't think that year > is a > > part of > > > the collection that we > > > have. Contact the museum for more > information on > > how to > > > find more out. > > > > www.randolphcountyindianahistoricalsociety.org > > These were > > > filed at the > > > clerks office at the Randolph County > Courthouse. You > > would > > > need to inquire > > > about the laws governing marriages through > the > > clerks > > > office as well, I > > > would think. Andrea > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > Subject: [INRANDOL] Newbie with a question on > > marriage > > > > > > 1855 marriage certificate and there were no > > witnesses > > > present, and no > > > parental consent given, wondering if this was > > typical of > > > the > > > Any info would be greatly appreciated. > Nikki > > > > > > > > ******************************** > > Please Visit The Randolph County INGenWeb Project > > http://www.ingenweb.org/inrandolph/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > INRANDOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and > > the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1733 - > Release > > Date: 10/19/2008 6:02 PM > > > > ******************************** > Please Visit The Randolph County INGenWeb Project > http://www.ingenweb.org/inrandolph/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INRANDOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1733 - Release > Date: 10/19/2008 6:02 PM

Exactly! I found a very helpful librarian at the Indiana State Library who is looking into some things for me, hopefully I'll hear back from her soon. I'm going to ask around at the Randolph Historical Society also, as was suggested. Between the two I may be able to get a better picture on what was going on with Randolph Co. marriages at this time. Nicole LaRue --- On Tue, 10/21/08, unicorn1945@comcast.net <unicorn1945@comcast.net> wrote: > From: unicorn1945@comcast.net <unicorn1945@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [INRANDOL] Newbie with a question on marriage > To: nikkisbc@yahoo.com, inrandol@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 8:50 AM > There is always the chance that she had no one to stand up > for her or was emancipated for some reason. There again, > you'd need to know if she could marry without some sort > of documentation to verify her age. > Shirley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nicole La Rue > To: inrandol@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 8:34 AM > Subject: Re: [INRANDOL] Newbie with a question on > marriage > > > > Thanks very much for your response. So the clerk's > office would information on what the marriage laws were at > the time then? What's bothering me about this marriage > certificate is the no witnesses part, no one to stand up for > the bride. From what I can figure from her death record and > from later census schedules, she would have been around > 16/17 at the time of the marriage so I would have thought > someone would have stood up for her. That is assuming that > she would have admitted to being underage at the time of her > marriage. But even if she didn't, wouldn't she have > had to find someone who would confirm her age? This missing > piece is just nagging at me for some reason and I'd love > to be able to figure out what the state of affairs was at > the time. > > Nicole LaRue > > > > --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Andrea > <andrea.genealogy@pceaze.com> wrote: > > > From: Andrea <andrea.genealogy@pceaze.com> > > Subject: RE: [INRANDOL] Newbie with a question on > marriage > > To: nikkisbc@yahoo.com, inrandol@rootsweb.com > > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 12:38 AM > > Yes, this is typical of that time period. The > museum has > > marriage bonds, > > where someone would swear that the bride was of age, > or > > that the couple had > > permission, but I don't think that year is a > part of > > the collection that we > > have. Contact the museum for more information on > how to > > find more out. > > www.randolphcountyindianahistoricalsociety.org > These were > > filed at the > > clerks office at the Randolph County Courthouse. You > would > > need to inquire > > about the laws governing marriages through the > clerks > > office as well, I > > would think. Andrea > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Subject: [INRANDOL] Newbie with a question on > marriage > > > > 1855 marriage certificate and there were no > witnesses > > present, and no > > parental consent given, wondering if this was > typical of > > the > > Any info would be greatly appreciated. Nikki > > > > ******************************** > Please Visit The Randolph County INGenWeb Project > http://www.ingenweb.org/inrandolph/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INRANDOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1733 - Release > Date: 10/19/2008 6:02 PM

Thanks very much for your response. So the clerk's office would information on what the marriage laws were at the time then? What's bothering me about this marriage certificate is the no witnesses part, no one to stand up for the bride. From what I can figure from her death record and from later census schedules, she would have been around 16/17 at the time of the marriage so I would have thought someone would have stood up for her. That is assuming that she would have admitted to being underage at the time of her marriage. But even if she didn't, wouldn't she have had to find someone who would confirm her age? This missing piece is just nagging at me for some reason and I'd love to be able to figure out what the state of affairs was at the time. Nicole LaRue --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Andrea <andrea.genealogy@pceaze.com> wrote: > From: Andrea <andrea.genealogy@pceaze.com> > Subject: RE: [INRANDOL] Newbie with a question on marriage > To: nikkisbc@yahoo.com, inrandol@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 12:38 AM > Yes, this is typical of that time period. The museum has > marriage bonds, > where someone would swear that the bride was of age, or > that the couple had > permission, but I don't think that year is a part of > the collection that we > have. Contact the museum for more information on how to > find more out. > www.randolphcountyindianahistoricalsociety.org These were > filed at the > clerks office at the Randolph County Courthouse. You would > need to inquire > about the laws governing marriages through the clerks > office as well, I > would think. Andrea > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: [INRANDOL] Newbie with a question on marriage > > 1855 marriage certificate and there were no witnesses > present, and no > parental consent given, wondering if this was typical of > the > Any info would be greatly appreciated. Nikki

I picked up a brochure today, that happened to have a little bit on this. "McVey Memorial Forest & Surrounding Area 'To establish, develop, and maintain a natural forest to be used as a public park and a sanctuary and refuge for wildlife.' Perfect location to stretch your legs while traveling Indiana State Road 1. Covered picnic area and wooded walking trails. History buffs will want to stop just north of the picnic area to read about the ghost town, Steubenville. State Road 1 crosses the Mississinewa River by way of an impressive steel bridge. Just a little more north (before State Road 28) one will find a memorial for three fallen soldiers from the War of 1812. 7399 N. State Rd. 1, Farmland" >From the Randolph County, Indiana Activities, Adventures, and Visitors Guide www.roamrandolph.org Andrea

Yes, this is typical of that time period. The museum has marriage bonds, where someone would swear that the bride was of age, or that the couple had permission, but I don't think that year is a part of the collection that we have. Contact the museum for more information on how to find more out. www.randolphcountyindianahistoricalsociety.org These were filed at the clerks office at the Randolph County Courthouse. You would need to inquire about the laws governing marriages through the clerks office as well, I would think. Andrea -----Original Message----- Subject: [INRANDOL] Newbie with a question on marriage 1855 marriage certificate and there were no witnesses present, and no parental consent given, wondering if this was typical of the Any info would be greatly appreciated. Nikki

Hello all, I just found this group while searching for information on 19th c. Randolph County marriage statutes. I just received a copy of an 1855 marriage certificate and found it surprising that there were no witnesses present, at least none that signed the certificate, and no parental consent given, at least none that has been found. I'm wondering if this was typical of the time and place and wondering what exactly the laws regarding marriage in the county were at this time. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Very Much! Nikki __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: burgessjd Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.indiana.counties.randolph/3344.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I can tell you that she didn't have an obituary in any of the Hartford City or Montpelier newspapers. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RobertFuller73 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.indiana.counties.randolph/3344.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you would like to see what I know about Jane you can access my database at the following" Rootsweb.com Go to World Connect Go to specific database and enter bobfuller27 Locate Jane Maple and you can see all the data I have collected. I can't help with the Householder connection, other than the census entry. If you locate Jane's death info I would appreciate you letting me know. Bob Fuller Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: burgessjd Surnames: Maple, Brown, Bradford, Reynard, Mande Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.indiana.counties.randolph/3344.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't think that I am. But I believe my great, great grandmother, Sarah A. (Mande, Householder) Reynard was living with Jane's family in Coshocton County, Ohio, in 1860. By the 1870 Census they were both living in Randolph County, although at separate addresses by then. I'm trying to acquire more information about Sarah's early life, so I figured if I could find out more about Jane that might lead me to some clues about Sarah. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RobertFuller73 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.indiana.counties.randolph/3344.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jane is my gr-grandmother. I would like very much to find her death date and burial place. If you are interested in her early life, I can help you. I know very little after she married Mr. Bradford. The Alice with her in the census was almost certianly Alice Brown, her dau from her marriage to Henry Brown. How are you related to her? Bob Fuller Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.