Mt. Zion Cemetery is located just east of the County Infirmary and then three-quarters of a mile south. Many of the early grave markers are ordinary boulders picked up in a nearby field or taken from the river bottom. Some of them are marked with the initials of the deceased, others have no mark whatever to designate the names of those who rest there. The first burial there was Ursula Wheeler, who died May 4, 1841. As one wanders about this little well-kept cemetery reading the inscriptions on the monuments he soon realizes that many of those who rest there were born in the second century before ours, while other names recall to memory those with whom we mingled. - Written in 1940. Below is a list of some of the early burials: Ursula Wheeler died May 4, 1841, aged 35 Yrs. 7 M & 16 d. Thomas Butts, died August 8, 1848, 70 years. W. E. Fitzgerald, February 15, 1851, 105 years, Revolutionary Soldier. Sarah Fitzgerald, September 7, 1851, 92 years. John Pennington, January 5, 1852, 79 years. Alley Pennington, November 2, 1855, 76 years. Rachael Shockney, September 8, 1855, 67 years. Susannah, wife of John Haas, August, 1857, 60 years. Sarah Shockney, October 17, 1862, 59 years. Charles Shockney, April 7, 1863, 65 years. James H. Surface, August 1, 1863, 20 years, Company C, Sixty-ninth Ind. Reg. Jacob L. Fudge, September 8, 1867, 63 years. Elizabeth, wife of John Ousler, July 7, 1856, 68 years. John Ousler, May 17, 1852, 74 years. Samuel Shockney, September 23, 1859, 66 years. Valentine Oyler, March 19, 1852, 69 years. Catharine, wife of Valentine Oyler, July 17, 1873, 79 years. John M. Lucas, August 22, 1869, 60 years. William Kenedy, December 21, 1876, 77 years. William Shockney, July 3, 1875, 75 years. John M. Bishop, January 2, 1874, 81 years. Sarah, wife of John M. Bishop, November 1, 1880, 62 years. Hannah Ireland, February 3, 1864, 63 years. Elam Ireland, October 31, 1875, 80 years. William Robison, August 29, 1874, 72 years. Catharine, wife of Peter Forbes, July 12, 1870, 85 years. Abel Hinshaw, June 11, 1876, 77 years. Daniel Moore, August 30, 187?, 63 years. Susan C. Neil, September 2?, 1876, 79 years. Jerusha Stine, October 3, 187?, 66 years. James W. Stine, October 1?, 1876, 64 years. Above extracted from an April 15, 1940 article in the Union City Times-Gazette. Those interested in this church and cemetery are referred to this very lengthy history written by Philip Kabel.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dakin, Jenkins, and Gifford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bk.2ADE/1315 Message Board Post: I am seeking info on Lucy Gifford (1766-1821) m. Paul Dakin and died in Hudson NY. Their son Henry Dakin b. 1790-m. 1811 Henrietta Jenkins (1794-1819). He died in Warren Co, OH 1832; she died in Warren Co, OH in 1819. I am also seeking info on Henrietta Jenkins. I do have the Dakin book and am willing to do lookups thank you, Kathy Nixon

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: COATS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bk.2ADE/501.1 Message Board Post: ALLEN, WILL YOU PLEASE CONTACT ME BY E-MAIL. WE MIGHT BE RELATED BY COATS FAMILY. MY GGGRANDFATHER IS JOHN C. COATS B:1820 MARRIED TO SARAH COOPER. HE DIED 1898 AND IS BURIED IN UNION CEMETERY IN HAMILTON CO.,IND. HIS FATHER IS SUPPOSE TO BE JOSEPH H. COATS B:FEB.13,1792 SC. MARRIED TO ELIZABETH COPPOCK NOV.6,1816 IN MIAMI CO.,OHIO. I HAVE A LADY WHO LIVES IN TIPTON CO.,IND. WHO'S HUSBAND IS A DESCENDED FROM WILLIAM COATS WHO IS A BROTHER TO MY GGGRANDFATHER JOHN COATS WHO WAS ELI'S FATHER. ELI IS MY GGRANDFATHER. I LIVED IN CHARLESTON,SC AND MY DAD IS A COATS FROM MARION,IND..................VIOLET LYNCH

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: COATS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bk.2ADE/713.3.2 Message Board Post: DONALD, PLEASE CONTACT ME AT MY E-MAIL ADDRESS. I THINK WE MIGHT BE RELATED TO THE COATS IN INDIANA. MY GGGRANDFATHER IS JOHN C. COATS B:1820 OHIO DIED 1898 IN INDIANA, BURIED AT UNION CEMETERY IN HAMILTON CO.,IND. WHO FATHER IS JOSEPH H. COATS B:FEB. 13,1792 IN SC..........VIOLET LYNCH

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rains, Boyd Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bk.2ADE/1314 Message Board Post: Mina Boyd was born Aug 1881 in Delaware Co, Ind. She was the dau. of Harvey L. Boyd and Eliza Jane Johnson. Mina Boyd married Otto E. Rains in 1900. The family is then found in the 1920 and 1930 Stoney Creek, Randolph co, Ind. Can anyone help with death dates and location for Mina Boyd Rains and Otto E. Rains? Also their children were Harry Rains b. 3 July 1901 and twins Iola and Ivanova b. 29 April 1905. Who did they marry? You may email me directly at RizerK@erinet.com

CONGRATULATIONS!!! Marian

Now that I'm collected a bit after Linda's great news, I want to thank everyone on the list who helped defeat this bill. I was concerned that we wouldn't get it done but we did!!! Our birth and death records will remain open! Thanks again, --Jane

JUST IN! Our own Linda Hiatt Fullerton reports: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert L. Meeks (Gloria Schroeder)" <gschroed@iga.state.in.us> To: <lindaj4888@zoominternet.net> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 3:39 PM Subject: RE: Bill 1540 Dear Linda, Thank you for your e-mail. House Bill 1540 did not pass the House of Representatives - the vote was 43-50. Senator Robert Meeks

Linda, Wow! The power of the people. It really works! Cathy -----Original Message----- From: Torres, Jane E [mailto:jetorres@indiana.edu] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 1:30 PM To: INRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [INRANDOL] Thanks to all who helped! Now that I'm collected a bit after Linda's great news, I want to thank everyone on the list who helped defeat this bill. I was concerned that we wouldn't get it done but we did!!! Our birth and death records will remain open! Thanks again, --Jane ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fields/Bragg Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bk.2ADE/334.344.612.795 Message Board Post: Jerry...Just started on the Martin/Margaret Fields line recently. Our line is then from his son David and Nancy (Bragg) Fields. Have you found anything on the parents of Martin Van Buren Fields? Thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cropper Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bk.2ADE/110.2.1 Message Board Post: Hi Linda: I am looking for a Mary Cropper she married Martin Luther Hudson in 1895. Supposedly they lived in Williamsville,DE for a while and then moved back to Worcester, Md. They had 5 children, Georgie Estelle, Lloyd, Elizabeth"Lizzy", Sadie and another brother but don't know his name. I need the proof of their children. One of their Daughters was my Grandmother"Georgie". I know that Georgie lived in Salisbury,MD most of MY life. She just passed away in 1993. Could we have a connection? Thanks Barb

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ryan/Protsman/Keever/Moody/Custenborder Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bk.2ADE/1313 Message Board Post: Need info on Adah L. Protsman b: 7-22-1894 Shelby Co, Oh & d: 6-15-1966 Winchester, married Harold I. Ryan abt 1920. He was b: 3-27-1895 in RCI & d: 6-12-1968 in RCI s/o John B. Ryan & Eva Lillian Moody. They also had a dau Kathleen who married Dallas Keever & had a son John. Adah's parents are Charles Protsman & Belle Custenborder. In 1916 Charles ran a store in Winchester. He had a WOODEN right hand. Belle d: july 1928 in Marqutte, Mi. Adah also had a sister Carrie. Charles & Belle were married 10-4-1891 in Shelby Co, Oh. I have a lot of old photos, but no names for the faces. HELP !!!!!!!!!!

Hello Gina and All, I have only received replies from a very few of them. One agreed, another told me that our interests were being take care by the amendment. The most lengthy correspondence has been from Dolly Starnes, Leadership Assistant, in the office of the Speaker of the House, Patrick Bauer. She spoke with Rep. Welch (sponsor of the bill) and forwarded her reply. Still my most pressing question is: HOW will I be differentiated from Tom, Dick and Harry (see answer to question #1)? I believe this is different than question 9, how will I receive the information. I would like to see this issue addressed before my opposition to the bill will be eased. Ms. Starnes wrote: From: Dolly Starnes [mailto:dstarnes@iga.state.in.us] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:15 AM To: Torres, Jane E Subject: Re: HB 1540 Dear Ms. Torres I have spoken with Representative Welch the author of this bill. She has made a list of answers to the concerns most people have had. If there are anymore you need answered please contact me. 1. Access to records: It is not the goal of the state or local vital record registrars to prevent genealogists from having access to birth and death records. The goal is to prevent every Tom, Dick, and Harry off the street being able to view, transcribe, and/or get unofficial copies of birth and death records. 2. Loss of tourism dollars: Access to birth and death records by genealogists will be addressed in rules adopted by the State Department of Health. Folks from around the country will still be able to pursue their genealogy hobby. 3. Vital Record registrars just want less work: Local registrars have assured me that this is not the case. See #1. 4. "I should have free access to public records": IC 5-14-3-4 is a listing of public records that are excepted from disclosure. Some of those records are: medical records (Again, some regard vital records another type of medical record); library or archival records (the public cannot find out what books you have checked out from the library, but they can know personal facts about you and your family); release of certain lists of people for commercial purposes (a man in Marion County requested a copy of all Marion County birth records for 2000-the assumption was he wanted the records to do a commercial mailing. He would have been given the birth records as long as he paid the 25-cent per copy fee). 5. "I won't be able to afford the high fees to get records": There would be no charge for viewing the records and there would be the nominal charge for unofficial copies. There would be the standard fee for certified copies. 6. "I will have to pay a professional genealogist": The bill does not refer in any way to a genealogist having to be a professional. 7. Common complaint of inconsistencies in local health departments in the application of access to records: HB 1540 would provide that consistency and remove all uncertainty as to the rules for disclosure. 8. HB 1540 would not affect identity theft: It is true that most identity theft happens from people you know or from the theft of your billfold. Nonetheless, identity thieves are becoming more savvy, and as personal information becomes more valuable in the acquisition of new identities, birth and death records are a perfect place to acquire that information. 9. Suggestion to register genealogists: This seems to me to be a bit onerous. Again, it is not the goal to make it difficult for genealogists to get information. How they will get the information will be determined by promulgated rules. Let me repeat, I will personally monitor the rulemaking process. 10. "Maybe there is too much information on the records": It has been explained to me that every so often the records are reviewed for what kind of information is needed by the data collectors. Consistently, more information is required to be placed on the records. Sincerely Dolly Starnes Dolly Starnes Leadership Assistant Speaker B. Patrick Bauer 317-232-9628 200 W. Washington St. Indianapolis, IN 46204 dstarnes@iga.state.in.us -----Original Message----- From: Chris & Gina [mailto:richardson69@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:59 AM To: INRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [INRANDOL] FW: HB 1540 Hello I am curious as to how long of a wait from the time you emailed them,was it, before you received a reply back from the Rep. I sent emails voicing my concern to all of them listed on the web site, and no one has sent me one back. I hope they were received. I also forwarded your messages to the Delaware County mailing list, the previous message on their list, had links that did not work, your links did. Thank you for the information I hope everyone who is doing research, whether new at it or not will let their opinion be heard. This will effect our children and grandchildren, my sons have taken an interest in our history, and it upsets me to think that this may be hampered. Gina in Muncie. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Torres, Jane E" <jetorres@indiana.edu> To: <INRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:42 AM Subject: [INRANDOL] FW: HB 1540 > Notice Mr. Lehe's second sentence. If you haven't expressed your > opinion, > please do! > > Thanks, > --Jane Torres > > -----Original Message----- > From: DJLehe@aol.com [mailto:DJLehe@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 5:13 PM > To: Torres, Jane E > Subject: Re: HB 1540 > > > Jane, > Thank you for contacting me on the 1540 bill. I want to know what > citizens think about legislation and need this information to better > decide how to vote. > > This bill did not come to a vote today even though it was on the list. > I will use your opinion to help decide when it does come up. > > Thank you again. > Don Lehe > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Kay, I don't know if I responded to your message of 2001 or not. Anyway, I saved it on paper and am responding now. Samuel French and Esther Suey (Sooy) are ancestors of my husband. My husband's great-great grandmother was Elizabeth French, a daughter of Samuel and Esther (Suey) French. Esther married Joseph Gantz in Warren County, Ohio, north of Cincinnati in 1836. They moved to Randolph County in 1837 where they farmed and raised their family. They had several children, a few of whom were Lorenzo and Samuel (twins) born May 23, 1838, and John W. Gantz. These men joined the Indiana Volunteers and fought in the Civil War, where 2 of them died. Lorenzo married Sarah McCamish and one of their daughters was my husband's grandmother. All 3 of the Civil War veterans wrote letters home to their family. I have collected about 72 of them, typed them exactly as they were written, and published them in a hardcover book. The French family is mentioned several times, especially since some of the French men were fighting in the same regiments as the Gantz men from Indiana. Unfortunately, I am all out of the book in hardcover but am considering having it published again in paperback if I can get a reasonable price quote. Let me know if you would be interested in purchasing a copy. Do you have any photos of the French family members? We have none, and would be interested in seeing yours, if you have any. Thanks. Have a great day. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: <KayTreeshaker@aol.com> To: <INRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [INRANDOL] French Family > My gmother was a French from Farmland, In. I have some info on them , her > father was Harrison French, his father was Francis M French m. Eleanor > Harrison, they are buried at Maxville, In. His father was Samuel m. Rachel > Weeks, his father Samuel m. Esther Sooy , both Samuels & wives are buried at > Hopewell Cem near Farmland. You can contact me direct if this sounds like > any help. > > > > > > > > > kaytreeshaker@aol.com > > Share your knowledge, it is a way to achieve immortality. > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com >

Hello I am curious as to how long of a wait from the time you emailed them,was it, before you received a reply back from the Rep. I sent emails voicing my concern to all of them listed on the web site, and no one has sent me one back. I hope they were received. I also forwarded your messages to the Delaware County mailing list, the previous message on their list, had links that did not work, your links did. Thank you for the information I hope everyone who is doing research, whether new at it or not will let their opinion be heard. This will effect our children and grandchildren, my sons have taken an interest in our history, and it upsets me to think that this may be hampered. Gina in Muncie. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Torres, Jane E" <jetorres@indiana.edu> To: <INRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:42 AM Subject: [INRANDOL] FW: HB 1540 > Notice Mr. Lehe's second sentence. If you haven't expressed your > opinion, > please do! > > Thanks, > --Jane Torres > > -----Original Message----- > From: DJLehe@aol.com [mailto:DJLehe@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 5:13 PM > To: Torres, Jane E > Subject: Re: HB 1540 > > > Jane, > Thank you for contacting me on the 1540 bill. I want to know what > citizens think about legislation and need this information to better > decide how to vote. > > This bill did not come to a vote today even though it was on the list. > I will use your opinion to help decide when it does come up. > > Thank you again. > Don Lehe > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks for the info!!! I'll be on the look out. Florence Orange Co NY -----Original Message----- From: Tim Singleton <tsingleton@iclub.org> To: INRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com <INRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:04 PM Subject: [INRANDOL] Genealogy Scam >Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 12:47:19 -0800 (PST) >From: Joy Fisher <sdgenweb@yahoo.com> >Subject: [USGW-Discuss] FamilyDiscovery is up to old tricks >Resent-Message-ID: <K9NBy.A.6uG.QlnX-@lists2.rootsweb.com> > >I'm forwarding this for your information: > >------------------------------------------- > >Hi Everyone: > >The old genealogy scam is back. www.genseekers.com > >Behind the password protection are links to the free >genealogy on-line. There is no content of their own. > >In order to get the "5-day free trial" you have to >surrender a credit card or bank account number. You >have to cancel within 5 days or you get dinged. Guess >what? The cancellation e-mail bounces. Does this >surprise you? > >One person who recently fell for the come-on had >his/her account dinged not once, but twice. > >It is time to remind folks on your state and county >mailing lists about these scoundrels. It has been a >couple of years since we have mentioned this. > >Permission is granted to pass this on. > >--------------------------------------------------- > >Tim Singleton, tsingleton@iclub.org >Volunteer INGenWeb Coodinator >Adams Co., IN - http://www.rootsweb.com/~inadams/ >Randolph Co., IN - http://www.rootsweb.com/~inrandol/ > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bk.2ADE/1233.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: From the information I have, Thomas O. Pierce and Sarah Welch Pierce were buried in the Altadena Cemetery, Thomas in 1917 and Sarah in 1934. Thomas was a builder/contractor in Altadena. Thank you. Doris L. Wolfe

Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 12:47:19 -0800 (PST) From: Joy Fisher <sdgenweb@yahoo.com> Subject: [USGW-Discuss] FamilyDiscovery is up to old tricks Resent-Message-ID: <K9NBy.A.6uG.QlnX-@lists2.rootsweb.com> I'm forwarding this for your information: ------------------------------------------- Hi Everyone: The old genealogy scam is back. www.genseekers.com Behind the password protection are links to the free genealogy on-line. There is no content of their own. In order to get the "5-day free trial" you have to surrender a credit card or bank account number. You have to cancel within 5 days or you get dinged. Guess what? The cancellation e-mail bounces. Does this surprise you? One person who recently fell for the come-on had his/her account dinged not once, but twice. It is time to remind folks on your state and county mailing lists about these scoundrels. It has been a couple of years since we have mentioned this. Permission is granted to pass this on. --------------------------------------------------- Tim Singleton, tsingleton@iclub.org Volunteer INGenWeb Coodinator Adams Co., IN - http://www.rootsweb.com/~inadams/ Randolph Co., IN - http://www.rootsweb.com/~inrandol/

At 03:54 PM 2/27/2003, you wrote: >Hi, >No I don't believe your Thomas is related. >The Thomas in my line was born in 1840 and married to Rebecca Shelley and >Margaret Coddington. He didn't have any sons named Thomas. >Sorry, Okay, thank you anyways. >Susan >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Joe Walsh" <joe.walsh@divine.com> >To: <INRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 12:43 PM >Subject: Re: [INRANDOL] Re: marriage date of Thomas O. Pierce and Sarah >Welch > > > > Hi Susan, > > > > Is there any connection with your Welch line to Thomas Welch b. Oct 7, > > 1880, d. May 16, 1971, m. Frances Lyons b. Sep 14, 1881, d. Feb 19, 1950? > > > > At 12:26 PM 2/27/2003, you wrote: > > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > > >Classification: Query > > > > > >Message Board URL: > > > > > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bk.2ADE/1233.1.1.1.1 > > > > > >Message Board Post: > > > > > >Sarah's parents are William and Elizabeth Whitesel > > >William and Elizabeth are buried in the Conklin/Welch/Whitesel > > >cemetary. I don't have where Thomas and Sarah are buried. > > >Hope this helps. > > > > > >Susan > > > > > > > > >============================== > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > > >go to: > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > _____________________ > > Joe Walsh > > divine, inc. > > joe.walsh@divine.com > > joseph_walsh@yahoo.com > > http://www.divine.com > > (781) 359-7946 > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _____________________ Joe Walsh divine, inc. joe.walsh@divine.com joseph_walsh@yahoo.com http://www.divine.com (781) 359-7946

Thank you I would love to know what you find out. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: <konfetti@bigfoot.com> To: <INRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 1:23 PM Subject: [INRANDOL] Thomas O. Pierce and Sarah Welch burial location > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Pierce, Welch > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bk.2ADE/1233.1.1.1.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Thanks Susan... I believe they may be here in CA but thought I would ask if anyone knew. I'm going to check a cemetery in LA area tomorrow and if you are interested in what I find out I will let you know. Thanks again, Pat > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >