I suggest you read it more carefully. Your ancestors cannot be copyrighted. Even worse though is the chip to be put in all digital electronic gear to stop copying. Tom Hollingsworth

> Proposed Legislation Would Wreak Havoc for Genealogists and others, of course! > > A new bill before the U.S. Congress proposes to overturn one of the most fundamental concepts of the present copyright laws. If passed, facts would become copyrighted for the first time in U.S. history. > > The Database and Collections of Information Misappropriation Act (HR3261) would make it a crime for anyone to copy and redistribute a substantial portion of data collected by commercial database companies and list > publishers. At first, that sounds like a good idea. However, a bit more thought shows that nobody would be able to republish stock quotes, historical health data, sports scores, or voter lists. In fact, a lot of genealogy information could not be republished. > > If passed, Google and all the other search engines would be crippled, probably driven out of business. These are online databases that collect information, or facts, from other online sites so that the user can quickly find the information they seek. If Google and the others are not allowed to collect facts that are now copyrighted, how will they be able to index the Web for you? > > Art Brodsky, spokesman for public advocacy group Public Knowledge, says the bill would let anyone drop a fact into a database or a collection of materials and claim monopoly rights to it. This would contradict the core principle of the Copyright Act, which states that mere information and > ideas cannot be protected works. > > Let's say that a commercial genealogy service such as Ancestry.com or OneGreatFamily.com publishes the fact that your great-great-grandparents had a child named John. Once that "fact" has been published by any commercial service, that original publisher would hold the copyright on the > fact, and no one else would be allowed to publish it again. The Family History Library, the New England Historic Genealogical Society, Genealogical Publishing Company, and others would be prohibited from publishing that information again in any of their online or printed works. > In fact, private individuals would similarly be barred from publishing the information in their own derivative works. If a commercial site publishes a fact about your ancestors, you would not be able to place that fact on your own Web site or in any book or report that you give to others. > > The language in this proposed legislation contradicts the core principle of the present copyright acts, which state that mere information and ideas cannot be protected works. > > You can read more about this proposed legislation in Wired News at > http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,62500,00.html > >

I loved reading about your family !!!!! Thanks a bunch ! June ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy J. Baker" <billybak@erols.com> To: <INRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 11:00 AM Subject: [INRANDOL] An Early Randolph Co. Memoir > Union City Times-Gazette, Tuesday, May 9, 1939 > > Family recollections of Randolph County published in this newspaper by > Charles F. Hinshaw. > > I have been requested to write a brief account-- brief because little > accurate data can be found -- of the first, so far as I can learn, house > in the north half of the county. > The house, that of my great-grandparents, Zachary Hiatt and Annie > Coffin Hiatt, daughter of William and Elizabeth Duncan Hiatt Coffin, was > located one mile east and a half-mile south of what is now our > courthouse square. > Zachary Hiatt with his wife and their children, Moses, Joseph, Sarah, > Millicent, Keziah, Mary and Hepsa, who was my mother's mother, left > southern Virginia in 1813, coming to Richmond, Indiana Territory. Two > years later the family moved on northward and selected the site and > built their home on what is now known as the Vernie Cox farm, occupied > by his son, Hubert Cox. > [The article shows a picture of the author taken in front of the cabin > in 1903 or 1904. It later tumbled down in about 1907.] There was no > stairway on the inside but in all probability access was gained to the > loft from the outside by means of a ladder reaching to a little window > in the west gable. > Think of parents and seven living in a little house measuring not more > than 20 by 24 feet. We have passed far from that way of living whether > for better or worse. All cooking, of course, had to be done on the > hearth or over the fire in the big fireplace which also heated the cabin. > Not many incidents can now be related and verified of this first > settler's family. It is known, however, that one son-in-law, Sylvanus > Knight, husband of Keziah Hiatt, was a gunsmith along with other trades > such as loom making and the construction of spinning wheels. > My mother, daughter of Hepsa Hiatt by her husband, John Cox, son of > one of the second settlers in this section, used to tell me of learning > to shoot a rifle which Uncle Sylvanus had changed from a flintlock to a > caplock. The cap and hammer were on the under side of the barrel. > Because the hammer was inconvenient and the caps sometimes dropped off > this type of gun was soon discontinued, I am told, and I think rightly, > that one of these rifles is now in the museum of the McKinley school, > bearing the name of Moses Hiatt, and I know it must have been made or > altered by his brother-in-law, Knight, in his shop which stood a few > rods south of the present school site. My mother used for many years a > loom and a spinning wheel made by her uncle in that shop. The machines > were extremely heavy but were exceptionally well made. I still have the > spinning wheel but the loom was sold many years ago. > Another fact about this family that I have hesitated to put into print > until I could find further verification is this: Joseph Hiatt, one of > the sons of the first settler, obtained a supply of silk worm eggs, > hatched and cared for them in a building made for the purpose and with > the help of his sister Mary, reeled, spun, colored and wove the silk > thus produced into a bed-sized coverlet and perhaps other things. I > know that most persons who read this story about the silk will be > skeptical, but wait a minute. I have in my possession a piece of this > coverlet, five inches square, given to me nearly 50 years ago by Mary > Hiatt herself, my great-aunt, with the story from her own lips as to how > it was produced. As I was only a boy at the time I have forgotten the > details. > I have a letter from the Indiana state librarian giving an account of > a shipment of mulberry trees into Indiana about 1830 from New York > state, also that a Mrs. Timmons of Union county, Indiana, had produced > silk to the value of $300. Doubtless Aunt Mary told me where they > obtained the eggs but I have forgotten. However, I have this theory: > The wife of Joseph Hiatt was a native of Union county and it is not > improbable that Joseph got his first eggs from Mrs. Timmons or someone > associated with her. > There was wild speculation in silk culture in the United States for a > time, our histories tell us, but the bubble soon burst. Mulberry trees > which between 1830 and 1840 sold for from two to five dollars apiece > dropped to a cent each and millions of dollars were lost by investors. > The time is lamentably near when we will have no first-hand facts on > the manner of life and customs of our early settlers. Just what freak > choice led Zachary Hiatt to drive on north through the unbroken forest > 15 miles past the few houses then in the southeast part of Randolph and > the north end of Wayne counties can never be known to us. And I presume > that until now no one but myself knew anything about the bubble of > silkworm culture having reached into this part of the state. > My other maternal great-grandfather, Benjamin Cox, settled with his > parents, three brothers and one sister two miles northeast of the Hiatt > home in 1817 at which time a cabin was standing near the present site of > Winchester. > A simple desire to place these facts of early history in print for the > perusal and information of others interested is my only motive for > writing these lines. > > > > ==== INRANDOL Mailing List ==== > Would anyone like to submit a phrase or thought for the day for the tagline, send an Email to Gina Richardson richardson69@comcast.net > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Thanks, Billy! More! More!

Union City Times-Gazette, Tuesday, May 9, 1939 Family recollections of Randolph County published in this newspaper by Charles F. Hinshaw. I have been requested to write a brief account-- brief because little accurate data can be found -- of the first, so far as I can learn, house in the north half of the county. The house, that of my great-grandparents, Zachary Hiatt and Annie Coffin Hiatt, daughter of William and Elizabeth Duncan Hiatt Coffin, was located one mile east and a half-mile south of what is now our courthouse square. Zachary Hiatt with his wife and their children, Moses, Joseph, Sarah, Millicent, Keziah, Mary and Hepsa, who was my mother's mother, left southern Virginia in 1813, coming to Richmond, Indiana Territory. Two years later the family moved on northward and selected the site and built their home on what is now known as the Vernie Cox farm, occupied by his son, Hubert Cox. [The article shows a picture of the author taken in front of the cabin in 1903 or 1904. It later tumbled down in about 1907.] There was no stairway on the inside but in all probability access was gained to the loft from the outside by means of a ladder reaching to a little window in the west gable. Think of parents and seven living in a little house measuring not more than 20 by 24 feet. We have passed far from that way of living whether for better or worse. All cooking, of course, had to be done on the hearth or over the fire in the big fireplace which also heated the cabin. Not many incidents can now be related and verified of this first settler's family. It is known, however, that one son-in-law, Sylvanus Knight, husband of Keziah Hiatt, was a gunsmith along with other trades such as loom making and the construction of spinning wheels. My mother, daughter of Hepsa Hiatt by her husband, John Cox, son of one of the second settlers in this section, used to tell me of learning to shoot a rifle which Uncle Sylvanus had changed from a flintlock to a caplock. The cap and hammer were on the under side of the barrel. Because the hammer was inconvenient and the caps sometimes dropped off this type of gun was soon discontinued, I am told, and I think rightly, that one of these rifles is now in the museum of the McKinley school, bearing the name of Moses Hiatt, and I know it must have been made or altered by his brother-in-law, Knight, in his shop which stood a few rods south of the present school site. My mother used for many years a loom and a spinning wheel made by her uncle in that shop. The machines were extremely heavy but were exceptionally well made. I still have the spinning wheel but the loom was sold many years ago. Another fact about this family that I have hesitated to put into print until I could find further verification is this: Joseph Hiatt, one of the sons of the first settler, obtained a supply of silk worm eggs, hatched and cared for them in a building made for the purpose and with the help of his sister Mary, reeled, spun, colored and wove the silk thus produced into a bed-sized coverlet and perhaps other things. I know that most persons who read this story about the silk will be skeptical, but wait a minute. I have in my possession a piece of this coverlet, five inches square, given to me nearly 50 years ago by Mary Hiatt herself, my great-aunt, with the story from her own lips as to how it was produced. As I was only a boy at the time I have forgotten the details. I have a letter from the Indiana state librarian giving an account of a shipment of mulberry trees into Indiana about 1830 from New York state, also that a Mrs. Timmons of Union county, Indiana, had produced silk to the value of $300. Doubtless Aunt Mary told me where they obtained the eggs but I have forgotten. However, I have this theory: The wife of Joseph Hiatt was a native of Union county and it is not improbable that Joseph got his first eggs from Mrs. Timmons or someone associated with her. There was wild speculation in silk culture in the United States for a time, our histories tell us, but the bubble soon burst. Mulberry trees which between 1830 and 1840 sold for from two to five dollars apiece dropped to a cent each and millions of dollars were lost by investors. The time is lamentably near when we will have no first-hand facts on the manner of life and customs of our early settlers. Just what freak choice led Zachary Hiatt to drive on north through the unbroken forest 15 miles past the few houses then in the southeast part of Randolph and the north end of Wayne counties can never be known to us. And I presume that until now no one but myself knew anything about the bubble of silkworm culture having reached into this part of the state. My other maternal great-grandfather, Benjamin Cox, settled with his parents, three brothers and one sister two miles northeast of the Hiatt home in 1817 at which time a cabin was standing near the present site of Winchester. A simple desire to place these facts of early history in print for the perusal and information of others interested is my only motive for writing these lines.

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Some reasons for some "LDS"/"Familysearch" records being confusing: May be copied and forwarded. Resent-Message-ID: <xKHnE.A.SPE.6t4VAB@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: OHFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: OHFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: OHFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <OHFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/14174 X-Loop: OHFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: OHFRANKL-L-request@rootsweb.com X-AOL-IP: 66.43.18.41 To any who are reading this email: Apparently, there is a need for this to be posted onto other sites other than the specific Rootsweb site to which it was originally posted. The following has been slightly changed in order to provide more explanation to those not of the original group. Permission is granted by me to send this on to any other family member or researcher or group which may need this explanation to help with their research and understanding, you do not need to contact me in order to do this. Just send it on; and, keep researching. [If anyone translates this into German, French, Spanish, Gaelic or Russian may I have a copy, please?] (NOTE: If the words are too spread out or large on a screen: then try clicking on this message and pressing (together) (Ctrl A) then (Ctrl C) [or Copy and Paste]; open an "New" Mail Message, put the cursor/arrow in the blank white area (where a message goes), click (Ctrl V) (together) [or whatever your program uses]; and, it should show up in the new mail message; if! not, then retry again pressing the keys more firmly. This original message is in the typeface called Arial and at 8 point and Bold (anything in red is done in ArialBLACK but, would be fine for copying in the Arial 8 Bold.) Thank you, M.M. Von Ville 16/MAR/04 ~ ...Some reasons for some "LDS"/"Familysearch" records being confusing... I am a not speaking as a Church official representative, just as a member; and, thru my following opinion, can explain some things which may seem confusing to, and have been questioned by, genealogical researchers here or elsewhere. Some of the LDS information submitted by members was done about 30 years ago when the Church asked members to try to submit their first 4 generations. Many submitted more if they had it. Some of the members were extremely enthusiastic and submitted what they had been told by their families. Most of our members had NO idea there would be anything like the Internet or Personal Computers or even sites such as this nor that many many others who are not members would ever even see what was submitted!!! We were doing what then seemed confusing to many of us; and, of course, mistakes were made out of enthusiasm and simply being new at it and untrained. The Church (The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints previously nicknamed "LDS" or "Mormons" ) did and still does have classes (anyone many attend.) Many years ago some were unable to attend classes and did the best they could with what they had. As members found more how to do this properly some of those same names were resubmitted with the information from whatever new sources were found resulting in spelling, date and many other differences than those first submissions. Again, please remember, we were new at this and not experts by any means! Current researchers should adhere to the best accepted genealogical procedure which is to go to the ORIGINAL sources and recheck the data. There are many positive things which can be said about the members' submissions: eg. if there are 3 different sources from different submissions at least a researcher has an idea of 3 different sources to check! Much better than having NO idea where to search or if there were other children or what the wife's name or mother's name or father's name and dates and places were! Personally, this past year I have received hundreds of years of validated information from the original source from the Internet; and, a non member whom I know, found 400 years of original sources and documented families in one search at the LDS www.familysearch.org site. There are many good, well identified and correct families and research there :) Researchers now have it so so much easier and can obtain information in an extremely short time instead of our months or years of waiting to find something which current researchers think nothing about now. I hope some of them appreciate what the members could do at the time because it was much of the base of the massive amount of information now available; and, many many thousands, if not millions, of them have been greatly helped in this great God-given Work. (Malachi, last Book in the Old Testament, Chapter 4, last Chapter in the Old Testament, and verse 6, last verse in the Old Testament is some Scriptural reason for us doing this; and, yes, we do believe that Elijah the prophet has already come; and, that this Work is of God who is the Heavenly Father of all humans who were, are and will be.) God bless all of you wonderful researchers! M.M. Von Ville, an LDS convert of many years who is grateful computers are making this Work so very much easier! P.S. An email site has been set up and will be checked occasionally. This is for convenience sake in the case that anyone may need some other appropriate further assistance regarding this message or questions or wishes to make other appropriate comments. The email is: myopinionNOTaChurchSite@hotmail.com and it IS MY opinion and IS NOT part of an LDS Church site! I am simply a member of the Church who saw a need of an explanation and have done my own personal genealogy for years in the "before computer methods"; and, in the last few years, thru "learning computer and the Internet." May God lead your "Hunt" in finding your family, ask God for help and listen to the answers! God may be the only one who knows where they really are! Miracles happen every day, you can have one or more, too, just ask sincerely and listen to God's still small voice. God does speak to his children and you ARE one of them, no matter what your conditions or situations may be!!! ~ ==== OHFRANKL Mailing List ==== This list is designed to provide a discussion forum for anyone who has an interest in Franklin County Ohio. To search this list go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter OHFRANKL for the list name. --part1_ae.52e30978.2d88eb8b_boundary--

Hello list, I came across this article today while I was at the Muncie Genealogy and History library. I thought it was interesting and wanted to share it. The Muncie Evening Press, Tuesday, June 25, 1918 (Front Page) ABSENCE OF FARMLAND MAN CAUSES WORRY Farmland, Ind., - June 25, Farmers and merchants alike as well as the wife and three children, are worried over the unexpected disappearance of Beryl Lewellen, a well to do grocer and retired farmer of this town. the police of nearby cities, including the Muncie police, were notified by phone this morning. Mr. Lewellen left Farmland Sunday afternoon and was last seen taking a traction car to Muncie at 3 o'clock. He was going to that city, he says, to consult an ear specialist as he was suffering from deafness. He had no troubles either of a business or a domestic nature, has no bad habits and is devoted to his wife and three children. his disappearance is a complete mystery. Can anyone on the list claim Beryl Lewellen? I am curious if he was ever found. Does anyone have any other information on him? Gina Richardson INGenWeb Volunteer Coordinator Randolph County IN http://www.rootsweb.com/~inrandol/

Please contact me off list: I was looking for an unknown Patterson man (from Delaware County) for your cousin. I've lost your email and your cousin's. Shirley

Hi all. While transcribing obits, marriage notices, and other news items of genealgical value from the old Jay Co. newspapers tonight, I came accross this one of interest for Randolph Co., and thought I would share it with the list. Jay Co. Granger, Thur., Jan. 22, 1874 Wm. Magee, of Winchester, an elderly gentleman, was run over near "Bee Line" freight house in that town on Wednesday evening of last week, and instantly killed. Rex Bertram PO Box 651 Redkey, IN 47373 Jay County Indiana Webpage co-ordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~injay/ Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky, or Michigan research help http://home.insightbb.com/~rexwb/index.htm I do Free Genealogy Look-ups from many sources. Check out my web page. http://www.angelfire.com/in4/genealogyhelp/lookup.html

I'm forwarding this suggestion from the LaSalle County, IL list I'm on (with Joanie's permission.) This is a great idea and I think is sort of what Gina is doing on the RanCo site. I know she could use help. If you ever get a shot at doing this, it would be great. Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: Joan Johnson To: ILLASALL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:11 AM Subject: [ILLASALLE] Request for information Spring is here, the crocus are just breaking thru, the birds are singing and the SHUDDER of church secretaries and sextons is heard throughout the county. The GENEALOGISTS are coming. The first letters will be arriving soon. "What information do you have...? My family was here 100 years ago..." But they don't mention the name of the family. So, the church secretary writes back and asks for the family names. "Well, it was Pete Smith, or maybe Schmidt or Schmitt", this to a German church, and the mail tag goes on, and on. Perhaps you have a really great person taking care of your cemetery, but he is threatening to quit. Why, because his phone number is out there as an emergency contact for the cemetery. Well, it IS an emergency if you have come all the way from Livingston Co. and just found out your Great Aunt Lucinda is buried in Riverside cemetery in Streator. But, the LA SALLE COUNTY GENEALOGY GUILD has the solution. They will copy your church/cemetery records, on or off site, and index them for you. You will now have an index, no more looking thru those old, fragile books. Your secretary can either choose to answer the queries or send a "form letter" to the the individual with the address of the Genealogy Guild. Naysayers: The church records are private. Show them online SSI records, the Secretary of State's site with marriage and death certificates, or Ancestry.com's 1930 census. the obituary lists. The books are old and fragile, copying will damage them. Aren't they damaged when you keep opening them looking for information. What about the embarrassing information. The Guild can black out information about "premature births". I have a relative that was 8-1/2 months premature. It happens in all families. So, ASK your minister, church secretary, sexton. A fire or water damage can destroy the history of your church. But, with a second set of records off site, those records won't be lost. Joanie ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 ==== INDELAWA Mailing List ==== Please Remember: When replying you are replying to the whole list and not to the individual that posted the E-Mail.

My ggg grandmother Rebecca (Marshall) Hinshaw along with most of her family was granted a certificate to the White River Indiana MM from Cane Creek MM on 12-5-1829 after the death of her husband Thomas Hinshaw. Rebecca died in 1836. My question; is there a cemetery in that area where she is possibly buried? Any information anyone has on this will be appreciated. Any additional information about this family after their move to Indiana would also be appreciated. Thanks Jim ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Email Address: jnixon5@tampabay.rr.com Home Page: http://web.tampabay.rr.com/nixon/index.htm

Just came back to this list, have been on Wayne Co. list for a long time. But a lot of my ties are in Randolph, CO. I have been sorting through my old photographs and came across this one. My grandmother, Maude Hawkins took this Great photo of nine ladies at Brenda Halliday's home. Ladies listed are: Lillian Thompson, Mattie Eckerle, Bernda Halliday, Laura Nye, Ethel Pierson, Georgia Hodgson, Ada Hogett, Reba Nye and Zella Thomoson. I suspect it was taken around 1898-1900 at a party for the ladies. I will scan and send copies to all interested. Hard copies can be made if needed or wanted. Robert Diehl Kienzle (Bob) 3037 Karen Avenue Long Beach, Ca 90808 Phone: (562) 425-0088 Email: kienzle@aol.com Website: www.kienzlephoto.com Looking for a few good names; Kienzle, Diehl, Ratts, Sipple, Beanblossom, Muth, Turner, Kettry

I was looking for a Patterson from Delaware County for someone's cousin. I lost your email and hers. Please contact me off list. Thanks, Shirley

Does any one have information on Stephen Hodson and wife Eliza Ellis Hodson, parents of Amanda Luella Hodson Thorn (1868 /1839). My great grand parents Thomas Hollingsworth highbuah10@a0l.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Curry, Wine, McCollum Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bk.2ADE/650.652.2 Message Board Post: Vickie, I found Melissa's parents: 1860 United States Federal Census Randolph Co, Nettle Creek, Losantville Post Office Enumerated July 30, 1860 John Wine-34-OH Day Laborer Rachel-32-OH Sanford-13-IN Daniel-11-IN Malisa-9-IN David-7-IN Nancy J.-5-IN Mirius (Mary)-3-IN Hope this helps.

Looking for any information on Lewis T. Dugan. He was born in Preble Co, OH in 1833 and married Sarah Ann McGuire daughter of Samuel and Eunice Burns McGuire of Randolph County. Lewis and Sarah were married in 1852 in Randolph County. I am looking for the parents of Lewis Dugan. Thanks, Marilee mielke@boreal.org

----- Original Message ----- From: <CHIPRES2@aol.com> To: <INRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 6:54 PM Subject: [INRANDOL] Hodson > I am looking for information relative to my great grandfather, Benjamin F. > Hodson, middle name thought to be Franklin. He was married to Mary F. Cox on > August 6, 1882 in Randolph County. Am looking for date of birth, children, date > of death, parents names. I can confirm that he was born in Missouri. In > addition, anything out there about my grandfather, William O. Hodson, lifetime > resident of Randolph County, born May 17, 1883 and married to Bessie Pearl > (Engle) Hodson. Reply: William O. Hodson's marriage application gives his middle name as "Otterbin". Is that a family name? It seems a bit unusual. Bessie Pearl(Engle) Hodson is a sister to my wife's grandmother. Ado Eloe (Engle) Ballenger (1890-1963) is my wife's grandmother. The marriage application of B.F.H and Mary F. Cox has his last name spelled 'Hodgens'. It gives B.F.H. as the son of Joshua Hodgens and Mary Horner. Mary F. Cox is listed as the daughter of Joseph Cox and Catharine Mc?anney. I couldn't make out the one letter. Best wishes to you, Austin --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

For some reason my ISP, Roadrunner, has been quarentining or removing access to your "unsafe" attachments. This has been the case for about two weeks. Has there been changes in the security level of your attachments? Ken Carpenter New Smyrna Beach, FL. ----- Original Message ----- From: <INRANDOL-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <INRANDOL-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 4:01 AM Subject: INRANDOL-D Digest V04 #63

Dear Gina and Austin, I just was able to view the Fountain Park Winchester list of 2003 burials. What a great job! Nancy

Thank you, Billy!