I am trying to establish, for membership in DAR, that Joseph Thomas Piercy, born April 4, 1831, was the son of George Washington Piercy and Sally Case Moore. George and Sally were married Mar 22, 1821. Their other children were: Jacob born 1822 Abby born 1824 Thursa born 1826 Hannah born abt 1830 Sarah born abt 1833 Amanda born abt 1837. They lived in Putnam County and were buried at the Reed Cemetery there. Any information on this family would be much appreciated. Also, is there any way to access and read the archives for this mailing list? Connie Norheim

Dear readers I am new to your list and USA research but am progressing slowly. I have received a wealth of advice and suggestions from you good people but still learning. Below is part of a statement by Margaret Howell (daughter of Patrick Donnelly) made in 1899 in the Orphans Court, Philadelphia. quote Q Then you came to this country with your mother A Yes, sir Q About twenty-eight years ago, you say ? A About twenty-eight years, yes Q Where did you go ? A Out to Indiana, to my father's Q Whereabouts in Indiana ? A Greencastle Q How long did you live there ? A From October until the 1st of May or the latter end of April. Q Did you go immediately to Greencastle on your arrival in this country ? A Yes, sir Q And you remained there, you say, about eight months ? A About eight or nine months. To the 1st of May, I guess it was, from October end quote The date of Margaret's visit (28 years from 1899 date of statement) would make it about 1871 so I would like to try and see if I could locate a copy of a relevant census return for Patrick. I do not know whether your 1870 census has been indexed but if it has and anyone has access to it and could spare the time could they see if there is any record of a Patrick Donnelly born c1822 in Ireland of Irish parents - emigrated c1847/1849. Married, occupation either labourer or tanner/manufacturer of leather. I appreciate that I am asking a great deal and the details are rather skimpy but this returrn would be of tremendous help to me. Thank you and kind regards to all Eileen - Liverpool, UK

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_SMxk3jAdUrXzXiOWIWPLVg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Tacy - where do you live? Have you been to the Danville Public Library? They are very helpful. Also, have you exhausted the internet? Amazing what you can find just using Google.com Best of luck - janet --Boundary_(ID_SMxk3jAdUrXzXiOWIWPLVg) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-Type: text/plain INPUTNAM-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 21 Today's Topics: #1 [INPUTNAM] Halfhill/Riley [TAArledge@aol.com] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from INPUTNAM-D, send a message to INPUTNAM-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ --Boundary_(ID_SMxk3jAdUrXzXiOWIWPLVg) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Message: #1 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:11:32 EST From: TAArledge@aol.com To: INPUTNAM-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <7c.3715032c.2baba4a4@aol.com> Subject: [INPUTNAM] Halfhill/Riley Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, Still hoping for some kind soul to check a county history for me to see if there are any entries for Sarah HALFHILL and Mary (wf of Silas J) RILEY, believed to be sisters with maiden name SHOEMAKER. Sarah died there 1892 and Mary in 1882. Also, is the public library open on Sundays? Thanks for your time and effort...Tacy --Boundary_(ID_SMxk3jAdUrXzXiOWIWPLVg)--

Hi All, Still hoping for some kind soul to check a county history for me to see if there are any entries for Sarah HALFHILL and Mary (wf of Silas J) RILEY, believed to be sisters with maiden name SHOEMAKER. Sarah died there 1892 and Mary in 1882. Also, is the public library open on Sundays? Thanks for your time and effort...Tacy

I have Sarah Thomas in the 1850 Clinton Twp, Putnam Co Census with six McGill children - Harrison b. 1830, David, Mary, Jane, William & Edward. I'm trying to find out the link between her and the children - mother or other relative? I believe she may be the daughter of John Miller, son of Henry Miller of Clinton County. There is a Sarah Miller listed as a grandaughter in a court action dated 1850 in Clinton County. Also listed in the action is a Sarah Miller Magill w. of Cyrus who would be a cousin to this Sarah Thomas. Any insights would be helpful. Any idea where she and the children were by 1860? I don't have the census for that year. Thanks in advance.

Hi All, I believe I have just located two "lost" branches of my Shoemaker family this week. They "went west" in the mid-1800s, but apparently only as far as this county <g>. You have a wonderful website, with lots of helpful info, but none of the links I've tried to lookup volunteers and the webmaster have worked--all my mail has been bounced back. Therefore, could someone with the county histories please check for me on these two families? I found the two ladies in whom I'm interested in the cemetery records, but need verification these are who I think they are. First is Sarah HALFHILL (1805-1892) , wf of Nicholas, buried at Salem Cem and the second is Mary RILEY (1807-1882), wife of Silas J, bur at Putnamville Cem. (Cem record says 1881, death rec index says 1882). I believe these two ladies to be sisters, daughters of George and Rachel HALFHILL SHOEMAKER of Gallia and Scioto Counties OH, formerly of PA. Mary has a daughter mentioned in an OH courtcase, Rachel WOODALL, b 1841. Her other children as given in the cemetery records are Joshua RILEY 1838-1928, Sarah J RILEY 1840-1935, prob Daniel RILEY 1843-1863, James K RILEY 1844-19=871 and John W RILEY 1836-1868. Known children of Sarah are James, Jacob and William HALFHILL. Any information on these families appreciated, and am hopeful there will be a bio in at least one of the family histories. Thanks for any help...Tacy Shoemaker Lewis, Colorado

It's really too bad the the local Hist. or Gen.Soc. couldn't step up and volunteer to go through these old records and remark them.....What a good project that would be for them and certainly beneficial to all.......wish I lived closer I would certainly volunteer my time to work on a project like that......... > She also told me that she didn't doubt that the original case file > existed. The problem is that many years ago the courthouse, or part of it, > was painted. Some employee there took it upon themselves to remove the > tags/label from the boxes that hold the older records. When the painting > was done, the boxes were never re-marked. Due to budget cuts over the > years, they do not have the manpower to do much time-consuming digging. > > N.J.Skinner White vwhite0901@aol.com "Remember the days of old; consider the generations long past." (Deuteronomy 32:7a)

I am trying to find any information you have on this.. Hello I am trying to find any records of Van Denman Thompson. I know he died in Greencastle, he taught at DePauw University, he even has a building named after him. He had several children: Patience (Berg), Cynthia (Bartley), Van Denman Jr., Lynnwood, and Gwendolyn. Any help you can give me would be appreciated. Thanks. Van Denman (VD) Thompson (his wife) Eula Bogle Cynthia L. Thompson (Bartley) born: 22 Jun 1925 died: 3 May 2000 at Greencastle, Putnam, IN, USA http://www.depauw.edu/pa/magazine/sumfall2000/class-notes/obituaries.asp Patience Thompson (berg) born 10 Jan 1918 Married Herman C Berg Born: 1 Aug 1911 in Holcomb, Kansas Died: 10 Aug 1998 in Sun City, Florida Indiana Address: 203 N College St. Greencastle, IN 46135

HOW WONDERFUL IT WOULD BE IF SOME LOCAL HISTORY GROUP (VOLUNTEERS) DECIDED TO HAVE A PROJECT AND GO THROUGH ALL OF THOSE OLD BOXES OF FILES AND MAKE AN INDEX FOR EACH BOX. I WISH I LIVED IN THE AREA, I MIGHT SEE IF THE COUNTY WOULD AUTHORIZE ME TO HELP DO SUCH A THING. Nell

FYI--forwarded with permission from CROWE-L@rootsweb.com. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rev Jim Crowe" <jlcrowe@c2i2.com> To: <CROWE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 2:28 AM Subject: [CROWE] FamilyDiscovery is up to old tricks > Howdy Listers: > > Forwarded FYI from the Archives-CC mail list... my apologies if you get this > on more than one list. > > The old genealogy scam is back. www.genseekers.com > > Behind the password protection are links to the free > genealogy on-line. There is no content of their own. > > In order to get the "5-day free trial" you have to > surrender a credit card or bank account number. You > have to cancel within 5 days or you get dinged. Guess > what? The cancellation e-mail bounces. Does this > surprise you? > > One person who recently fell for the come-on had > his/her account dinged not once, but twice. > > It is time to remind folks on your state and county > mailing lists about these scoundrels. It has been a > couple of years since we have mentioned this. > > Permission is granted to pass this on. > > Regards, > > Rev Jim Crowe mailto:jlcrowe@c2i2.com > CROWE Mail List Manager/Coordinator > CROWE-L@rootsweb.com > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/c/r/CROWE/ > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=Surnames.Crowe > ****************** > > > > ==== CROWE Mailing List ==== > Thank you for your generous financial support of Rootsweb! > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/ho-to-subscribe.html > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

I mistakenly sent this info to an individual. It was meant for everyone. I have been reading about he frustrations some of us are having with records that "don't exist". We know they do, but... Here is a possible explanation: A few years ago I was looking for divorce records from the very early 1900s. I have a copy of the court transcript (their notes, if you will) but was looking for the actual case file. The sweet lady who did the actual digging for me there in Grencastle sent me the info she could find. She also told me that she didn't doubt that the original case file existed. The problem is that many years ago the courthouse, or part of it, was painted. Some employee there took it upon themselves to remove the tags/label from the boxes that hold the older records. When the painting was done, the boxes were never re-marked. Due to budget cuts over the years, they do not have the manpower to do much time-consuming digging. She assured me, however, that if someone wanted to dig through the boxes themselves, it would be allowed. Just dress for some very dirty work. I have all of the identifying information, but cannot get there to search through the boxes myself. I don't know that this info is a solution to anyone, but is offered as an explanation for the "there is no record" problem. Debbi __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/

Still trying to contact researchers and those interested in Roberts research in Clay and Putnam Counties in Indiana. Descendants of Thomas Shockley Roberts 1 Thomas Shockley Roberts (1792-1865) b: 30 Oct 1792 in Henry Co., KY d: 20 Aug 1865 in Clay Co., Indiana .. +Maybe Allen ......2 Isabel Roberts ...... +[husb Isabel Roberts] Allen *2nd Wife of Thomas Shockley Roberts: +Nancy Ann Kelly (1797-1855) b: 3 Aug 1797 in Henry Co., Kentucky d: 5 Nov 1855 in Clay Co., IN ..... 2 Jemima Ann Roberts (1820-) b: 16 Jan 1820 in Kentucky .........+Alexander Williams ..... 2 Joseph Roberts (1821-) b: 22 Apr 1821 in Kentucky .........+Mary Boling ......2 Martha Patsy Roberts (1822-1920) b: 23 Dec 1822 in Kentucky d: 28 Dec 1920 ........ +William Barnett ..... 2 Nancy Ann Roberts (1824-1875) b: 27 May 1824 in Kentucky d: 17 Feb 1875 in age 50y 8m 20d/ Washington Twp, Putnam Co, Indiana ........ +William King Matkins (1811-1865) b: 18 Oct 1811 in Orange Co., NC d: 14 Oct 1865 in age 54y 11m 27d/ Washington Twp, Putnam Co, IN .........3 William Theodore Matkins (1849-1927) b: Nov 1849 in Washington Twp, Putnam Co, IN d. 31 Dec 1927 in Spencer, Owen Co, IN ............+Sarah Lnu .........3 Thomas Lennox Matkins (1853-1916) b: 7 Nov 1853 in Washington Twp, Putnam Co, Indiana d: 7 Oct 1916 in Salt Lake City, UT ............+Anna Walker (1856-1931) b: 24 Jan 1856 in near Poland, Clay Co, IN d: 5 Apr 1931 ........ 3 Isaac Newton Matkins (1855-1947) b: 4 Apr 1855 in Washington Twp, Putnam Co, Indiana d: 30 Jun 1947 in age 93y 2m 26d / Spencer, Owen Co, Indiana ............+Mary Melissa Mace (1857-1911) b: 25 Aug 1857 in Washington Twp, Putnam Co, IN d: 15 Jun 1911 in age 53y 9m 20d / Washington Twp, Putnam Co, Indiana ......*2nd Husband of Nancy Ann Roberts: ........+Almanzo Hapenny (1838-1913) b: 11 Mar 1838 d: 29 Dec 1913 in Putnam County, Indiana ........3 Mary E Hapenny (1868-1870) b: 1868 in Putnam Co, IN d: Abt. 1870 ........3 Lou Wallis Hapenny (1870 -) b: 1870 in Putnam County, Indiana ........3 Malinda Hapenny (1872-) b: Abt. 1872 in Putnam County, IN ..... 2 Sarah Roberts (1826-) b: 1 Jan 1826 in KY .........+Charles N. Mills ......2 Asa Roberts (1828-) b: 27 Apr 1828 ..... 2 William T. Roberts (1830-) b: 11 Sep 1830 in Clay Co., IN ........ +Martha [w1 Wm T Roberts] ........*2nd Wife of William T. Roberts: .........+Mary E [w2 Wm T Roberts] ..... 2 Eleanor Ellen Roberts (1832-1906) b: 20 Jan 1832 IN d: 14 Sep 1906 .........+Benjamin F. Boling ..... 2 Louise Elizabeth Roberts (1834-1906) b: 1 Aug 1834 Clay Co., IN d: 22 Jun 1906 ........ +Pleasant Lucas Bob Matkins (formerly of Spencer, Owen Co., IN) Butte MT

Of course they will cut where it hurts those who pay taxes.. How about welfare and other items that are unnecessary. Schools always suffer too!!! Just my viewpoint!!

Some one just posted this to the Clay County List. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Due to the impact of staffing restrictions and reductions, the until staffing is restored to an appropriate level. The security of patrons, staff, and collections are a major concern. The curtailing of hours is effective Saturday, March 1, 2003, changing our hours back to Monday through Friday, 8 a.m. to 4:30 p.m.-- Martha Roblee Associate Director, Library Development Indiana State Library 800-451-6028 or 317-232-3697 fax 317-232-0002 ==== INCLAY Mailing List ====

In a message dated 2/21/2003 9:26:35 AM Mountain Standard Time, Linniecakes2@aol.com writes: > Genealogy has become quite a hobby across America so they also have many > more requests for information. Most county records are maintained by the > county and funded mostly with local taxes. So, it's a good idea to remember > > when they help us we aren't paying for their time...and it's not our right > but borders on asking a favor. I have been to Putnam three times looking > for > info...and other county seats...Greencastle is a beautiful little town with > > mostly accommodating, gracious people..but have "stinkers"..or perhaps just > > busy people on the day we show up! I would like to add a note here.. I found the price to be more than fair.. In fact too cheap to be worth their trouble.. 50 cents per copy.. Why not charge more? Let's make it worth their time.. and not ask taxpayers to pay the bill. I would have been happy to pay $5.00 for a copy.. Make it worth their time. They are doing me (a non-resident) a favor. Then it becomes a self-supporting issue. I am not in favor of more taxes to pay for those "using" the services.. Ellie S.

Lisa, I think it is a common problem. Just like everything else, funds have been slashed on the federal and state level and the employees are fewer and have more work. They have a bill before the house in FL. to move some state records to universities, expecting them to fund it and access to it privately. If anyone lives in FL. and would like to sign a petition against this, email me and I will send you the info. Genealogy has become quite a hobby across America so they also have many more requests for information. Most county records are maintained by the county and funded mostly with local taxes. So, it's a good idea to remember when they help us we aren't paying for their time...and it's not our right but borders on asking a favor. I have been to Putnam three times looking for info...and other county seats...Greencastle is a beautiful little town with mostly accommodating, gracious people..but have "stinkers"..or perhaps just busy people on the day we show up! One more thing I would like to add. Once you (collectively speaking) obtain records it's important to share these with as many researchers as possible. Afraid that many believe..."I paid for it..it's mine" ..."or I know something the rest don't know".. this isn't in the spirit of the hobby and slows us all up, going after records that have already been found. The goal is to climb the correct tree...not who gets to the top first. Happy hunting! Linda FL

The goal is to climb the correct tree...not who gets to the top first, Good point Linda. Especially since the TOP is unreachable by any standards. -- Jeffery Scism, http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ InternationalBlacksheep Society of Genealogists Homepages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~scismfam/ \_/ --(_)-- / \ |> v-v-v-v |> , , /_\ | | /_\ |\_/| | |'''''''''''| | |\ (q p),-| | || _ || | |'-._ )) \_/_(/| | |#| | | ) '-.___// --w-w---'-'----'-'----'-'----------'-----------

I've heard SO many different answers from people trying to get records (or copies) from our courthouse! Some people I know have said they were very helpful there and went to great lengths to help them find what they needed, and I've talked to others who said no one there seemed the slightest bit interested in helping, and even told them certain records didn't exist that many of us KNOW are there. Maybe it depends on who you talk to in the office? Doesn't seem fair, since any business we have there should be just as important as whatever their "regular" job entails. Aren't they ALL "public" records? Have a lot of you had trouble with this? Is it just Putnam county, or is this a common problem? Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: <Omegaway2@aol.com> To: <INPUTNAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [INPUTNAM] Re: old marriage records > In a message dated 2/20/2003 5:47:05 PM Mountain Standard Time, > Chaprev@aol.com writes: > > > > Personally, I had never heard of this book and was > > in the courthouse 2 years ago looking for a marriage circa 1829-30 and was > > told there were NO records. > > Apparently some don't know about it.. I had heard that before from others.. > The clerk said she'd make me a copy from it.. But be persistent otherwise you > may not get their attention.. I have had that problem before at the Putnam > Co. courthouse.. > > Ellie S. > > > ==== INPUTNAM Mailing List ==== > Visit the INGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~inputnam. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Indiana State Library Genealogy Division "S - T" Indiana Marriages Through 1850 Displaying records 1 through 1 of 1 records found. (1 records displayed). <A HREF="http://199.8.200.90:591/FMPro?-db=s-t&-format=marriage%2fdetails.html&-lay=data%20entry&-sortfield=Bride%3b%20Groom%20last%20Name&-sortfield=Bride%3b%20Groom%20First%20Name&bride%3b%20groom%20last%20name=Smith&bride%3b%20groom%20first%20name=Daniel&County%20of%20Marriage=Putnam&-recid=47741&-find=">SMITH</A>, DANIEL to LANGWELL, MARY Putnam 11-3-1831

In a message dated 2/20/2003 5:47:05 PM Mountain Standard Time, Chaprev@aol.com writes: > Personally, I had never heard of this book and was > in the courthouse 2 years ago looking for a marriage circa 1829-30 and was > told there were NO records. Apparently some don't know about it.. I had heard that before from others.. The clerk said she'd make me a copy from it.. But be persistent otherwise you may not get their attention.. I have had that problem before at the Putnam Co. courthouse.. Ellie S.