Krys and all, Those of you who do not live in Putnam Co. are probably not aware of this information. William A. "Billy" Hurst, 87, rural Greencastle, died unexpectedly Monday morning at his residence. Born on his family's farm, he was the son of Paul and Gertrude (Cooper) Hurst. A 1936 graduate of Belle union High School, he attended various agricultural classes at Purdue University.He was a disabled U.S. Army veteran of World War II, and was a farmer and nationally known Suffolk sheep breeder. A member of Deer Creek Primitive Baptist Church, he had served for many years as church clerk. He and wife Helen also served as administrators and caretakers of Deer Creek Cemetery. He was a former president of the Putnam County Fair Board and had been active in 4-H and Future Farmers of America as a volunteer and mentor for youth, both locally and statewide. He was a member of the Putnam County Sheep Breeders Association, Indiana Sheep Breeders Association, and the National Suffolk Sheep Association, for which he served as secretary for eight years. He received the Distinguished Service Award of the National Suffolk Sheep Assoc. in 1992. He was inducted into the Purdue University Agriculture Hall of Fame in 1981, and in 1985 he and wife Helen were inducted into the Putnam County Agricultural Hall of Fame. Hurst was also a genealogist, a member of the National Society of the Sons of the American Revolution, Putnam County Historical Society, National Road Preservation Association, and was a supporter and contributor to the Putnam County Museum. He was also a member of American Legion Post 58 in Greencastle. He married Helen C. Reasor on June 23, 1949. She survives. Also surviving are two daughters, Helen Newton, and Beverly Ross and husband Reggie, all of Greencastle; three grandchildren one great-grandchild, and several nieces and nephews. He was preceded in death by his parents, brothers Victor, Harry, Alton and Carlyle Hurst, sister Pauline Padgett, and a granddaughter. Services will be at 10 a.m. Thursday at First Baptist Church in Greencastle with Rev. Paul Bowen and Elders Kevin Freeman and Tommy Freeman officiating. Burial with military honors will be at Deer Creek Cemetery. Visitation is 4-8 p.m. Wednesday at Bittles and Hurt Funeral Home, Greencastle. Memorial contributions can be made to the American Heart Association, 7272 Greenville Ave., Dallas, Texas, 75231, or the Deer Creek Cemetery Fund, 3265 E. U.S. 40, Greencastle, 46135. I personally will mourn his passing. My father let me go with him to Billy Hurst's farm to pick out some sheep. I was very young, probably 10 or so at the time. It was a big deal to me. I was also being introduced to Mr. Hurst as my Dad's oldest child since he and my father were roughly the same age and had grown up in the same area and both served in WWII. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krys Douglas" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [INPUTNAM] Deer Creek Baptist records > In 2000 I was in Putnam Co. and had the good fortune to meet with a Mr. > Hurst (I believe his first name was Jesse, but I'm not certain about > that). > Anyway, he was at the time the secretary for the Deer Creek congregation > and > had control of all the original records for Deer Creek Church. He happened > to have them at his home, because another person had written, asking to > see > them. He let me look over them, and copy the passages relevant to the > people > I was searching (Pecks and McCartys). According to Mr. Hurst, the records > are stored in a bank deposit box in Cloverdale (at that time at least, and > it's probable still the case). There were several years worth of material. > I > think Mr. Hurst or the current secretary would be amenable to someone > transcribing the records. > > It turns out Mr. Hurst and I are distantly related, but then I'm related > to > half of Putnam Co. ;-) > > Krys > "Writing is no trouble: you just jot down ideas as they occur to you. The > jotting is simplicity itself--it is the occurring which is difficult." -- > Stephen Leacock > > > ==== INPUTNAM Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe follow the instructions in the welcome message. > >

Krys: Perhaps you are also related to the Dobbs family, since some members of the Hurst family were. Joel Dobbs and his wife, Elizabeth Langwill Dobbs, were members of Deer Creek for a short time. Then the Dobbs family and I believe some of the Hursts moved on to Missouri, where Joel died in 1842. Mary (Polly) Langwell, sister of Elizabeth Dobbs, also joined the church in 1830. Polly married a Daniel Smith in Putnam County, Ind. in 1831. Their brother, my g.g. grandfather Hiram C. Langwill married Nancy Walters Brazier in Morgan County, Ind. in 1836 and another brother Thomas Langwill married Elizabeth Gilman in Putnam County c. 1836/37. Would really like to know if anyone on the list has an interest in any of these families. Nell Langwell Gronberg

>Perhaps you are also related to the >Dobbs family, since some members of >the Hurst family were. I'm related to the Dobbs family only by marriage as far as I know. The connection is to Absalom Hurst (1821-1848) who married Orlena Dobbs (1824-1890) This family went from Putnam Co to Missouri. abt 1840. Absalom's father, Elijah, was, I believe, a member of Deer Creek Church. Krys "Writing is no trouble: you just jot down ideas as they occur to you. The jotting is simplicity itself--it is the occurring which is difficult." -- Stephen Leacock ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [INPUTNAM] Deer Creek Baptist records Krys: Joel Dobbs and his wife, Elizabeth Langwill Dobbs, were members of Deer Creek for a short time. Then the Dobbs family and I believe some of the Hursts moved on to Missouri, where Joel died in 1842. Mary (Polly) Langwell, sister of Elizabeth Dobbs, also joined the church in 1830. Polly married a Daniel Smith in Putnam County, Ind. in 1831. Their brother, my g.g. grandfather Hiram C. Langwill married Nancy Walters Brazier in Morgan County, Ind. in 1836 and another brother Thomas Langwill married Elizabeth Gilman in Putnam County c. 1836/37. Would really like to know if anyone on the list has an interest in any of these families. Nell Langwell Gronberg

Robert: I am the one who transcribed the Deer Creek Baptist records and I transcribed everything I received. Dora Mae Turner, the dear lady who passed these documents on to me, does not recall where they came from. The following is an excerpt from one of Dora Mae's latest e-mail messages: "I've had those minutes for so long, I honestly can't remember who sent them to me, but imagine it was Carolyn Yancey (Little) Kent who lives in AR. She had done much research years ago and shared it with me." Robert, since my early relatives seem to have all been Baptists, I am very interested in your web site. My 3rd g. grandparents Thomas and Hannah Brockman Bastin were members of the Lick Fork Baptist Church of Rockingham County, N.C. c. 1790/1817. I have a few excerpts from the minutes of that church which I will be glad to share if you are interested. My great grandparents James and Catherine Keith Langwill were members of the Omaha Baptist Church in Omaha, Arkansas, for about 30 years prior to the death of James in 1915. I have quite a lot of those records and I found that my Langwell family usually was in some kind of trouble with the church. Always had a committee going out there to straighten them out. There is a lot more info in the Arkansas church records than those of the church in Indiana or the one in N.C. although there are some interesting tidbits in the N.C. minutes. Again, my relatives acting out. Nell Langwell Gronberg

In 2000 I was in Putnam Co. and had the good fortune to meet with a Mr. Hurst (I believe his first name was Jesse, but I'm not certain about that). Anyway, he was at the time the secretary for the Deer Creek congregation and had control of all the original records for Deer Creek Church. He happened to have them at his home, because another person had written, asking to see them. He let me look over them, and copy the passages relevant to the people I was searching (Pecks and McCartys). According to Mr. Hurst, the records are stored in a bank deposit box in Cloverdale (at that time at least, and it's probable still the case). There were several years worth of material. I think Mr. Hurst or the current secretary would be amenable to someone transcribing the records. It turns out Mr. Hurst and I are distantly related, but then I'm related to half of Putnam Co. ;-) Krys "Writing is no trouble: you just jot down ideas as they occur to you. The jotting is simplicity itself--it is the occurring which is difficult." -- Stephen Leacock

Sharon, Thank you so much for sharing this helpful information. I maintain a database of members of the churches of this faith, and will add these names to it. I would also like to have permission to list the surnames of the members on our webpage for Putnam county, on our website: http://www.carthage.lib.il.us/community/churches/primbap/pbl.html We will print out the minutes which were transcribed to your site on paper, for easy reference. Were other minutes copied but not transcribed? or was this all that you were allowed to obtain? Thanks again, Robert

I have just added a membership list of Deer Creek Baptist Church and minutes from their meetings for 1829-1830 to the INPutnam GenWeb site. http://www.rootsweb.com/~inputnam/ The links are on the left hand side under On-Line Data. I would like to say thank you to Dora Mae Turner, who provided the records and Nell Langwell Gronberg who transcribed them.

The information for the maping was taken from the Tract Books. As you probably all realize, but just wanted to clarify. My fingers type faster than my mind thinks to check at time & my mind just plain goofs. God Bless You All Candy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hello all - I have had a brick wall for more than a decade... my Archibald WEST moved to Hendricks County from Wayne Cty, KY around 1830. He married before he came to a woman who was called Betsy DENNY, but his children all list their mom as Elizabeth WORLEY and her tombstone in Ragan Cem. lists her also as a WORLEY. There were WORLEYs in Putnam Cty. who are buried next to her in Ragan....... if anyone has ANY info. on WORLEYs in Putnam county circa 1830-1900, I would sure appreciate a shout out! thanks! janet

I am also looking for a Jones. So far I haven't had much luck. Martha Emaline Jones 18 Dec 1827 - 5 Oct 1892 Married Jesse Goff Fall in Hamilton County, Indiana on 17 Mar 1846 They lived in Putnam County and are buried at Ladoga Cemetery in Montgomery County They had 6 children: Henry Reed, John W, Daniel, Eliza Jane, Mary Elizabeth and Martha (Martie) Fall I don't have a clue on her parents' names If you should come across them, I would be most grateful if you'd let me know. -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Bryant [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 11:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [INPUTNAM] jones Linda, Nancy Jones' husband MAY have been a James Jones. There was a marriage in Putnam Co., in 1832 between a James Jones and a Nancy Dickson. I believe the Nancy Jones you found in the 1850 census was in Jackson Twp. and in 1840 I found a James Jones' family in Jackson Twp. Both adults were between 20 and 30; there was one boy 5-10 years old, two boys 0-5 and one girl 0-5. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:24 PM Subject: [INPUTNAM] jones > Have you saw anything on the Jones,s in Putnam Ct. or Parke Ct. The family > name on my grandmothers side was Jones. They lived in both Putnam and > Parke.What I am trying to fine is my 3rd and so on generation back.I have > gone to the > court house in Parke Co. > trying to find out,but I was yold that there was a fire in the doctors > office > and there was no help they could give me.Iwas wondering if you knew of > anyway > I could find out something > about the Jones family. Here is a little bit about the Jones I am looking > for. > > My grandmother was Pearl Lucille Jones that married Clarence Lee Cox. Her > father was > John Henry Jones that married Nancy Jane Marrs. His fathers name was > William > Henry > Jones that married Elizabeth Susan Marrs.I have searched and found > William's > mother > name was Nancy she is listed in the 1850 census in Putnam Co.I can not > find > out who her husband was.I would love any help you could give me. > > Thanks, > > Linda > [email protected] > > > ==== INPUTNAM Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe follow the instructions in the welcome message. > > ==== INPUTNAM Mailing List ==== Please send research questions to the list rather than the mailing list manager. Thank you.

Linda, Nancy Jones' husband MAY have been a James Jones. There was a marriage in Putnam Co., in 1832 between a James Jones and a Nancy Dickson. I believe the Nancy Jones you found in the 1850 census was in Jackson Twp. and in 1840 I found a James Jones' family in Jackson Twp. Both adults were between 20 and 30; there was one boy 5-10 years old, two boys 0-5 and one girl 0-5. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:24 PM Subject: [INPUTNAM] jones > Have you saw anything on the Jones,s in Putnam Ct. or Parke Ct. The family > name on my grandmothers side was Jones. They lived in both Putnam and > Parke.What I am trying to fine is my 3rd and so on generation back.I have > gone to the > court house in Parke Co. > trying to find out,but I was yold that there was a fire in the doctors > office > and there was no help they could give me.Iwas wondering if you knew of > anyway > I could find out something > about the Jones family. Here is a little bit about the Jones I am looking > for. > > My grandmother was Pearl Lucille Jones that married Clarence Lee Cox. Her > father was > John Henry Jones that married Nancy Jane Marrs. His fathers name was > William > Henry > Jones that married Elizabeth Susan Marrs.I have searched and found > William's > mother > name was Nancy she is listed in the 1850 census in Putnam Co.I can not > find > out who her husband was.I would love any help you could give me. > > Thanks, > > Linda > [email protected] > > > ==== INPUTNAM Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe follow the instructions in the welcome message. > >

Have you saw anything on the Jones,s  in Putnam Ct. or Parke Ct. The family name on my grandmothers side was Jones. They lived in both Putnam and Parke.What I am trying to fine is my 3rd and so on generation back.I have gone to the court house in Parke Co. trying to find out,but I was yold that there was a fire in the doctors office and there was no help they could give me.Iwas wondering if you knew of anyway I could find out something about the Jones family. Here is a little bit about the Jones I am looking for. My grandmother was Pearl Lucille Jones that married Clarence Lee Cox. Her father was John Henry Jones that married Nancy Jane Marrs. His fathers name was William Henry Jones that married Elizabeth Susan Marrs.I have searched and found William's mother name was Nancy she is listed in the 1850 census in Putnam Co.I can not find out who her husband was.I would love any help you could give me.                                                         Thanks,                                                              Linda                                                   [email protected]

Thanks. I'll check that out. Jim . . James R. Baker, Jr. (jrbakerjr) Free Genealogy Databases http://www.jrbakerjr.com . . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Candy Smothers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 8:11 PM Subject: [INPUTNAM] 1850 Census Putnam Co. Boundries > Dear Jim; > As I recall in my research, I found that in 1862 the Putnam Co. Boundry > was changed. There were changes in the boundrys with Morgan & Hendricks > .Therefore you may want to check those two counties for the 1850 census. > There used to be a Mill Creek Township in Putnam along that eastern > boundry but no longer. I have made a hand drawn map that shows where the > first settlers lived in that 3 county confusing area. I took the original > Tract books. When I come across it I will email you if I find any of your > names. > God Bless You, > Candy Smothers > [email protected] > > > Date:Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:12:57 -0400From:"James R. Baker, Jr." > <[email protected]>To:[email protected]:1850 censusHas anyone > else found this? > I believe that a portion of the 1850 census, probably in Putnam County, > but possibly in Wayne County, is missing. > The following people were in Wayne during the 1840's, then Putnam in the > 1850's but are not found on the 1850 census anywhere. > Susan Connett (Conant) widow born Maryland ca 1793 > James and Phebe Baker > Sylvester and Hulda Baker > Lorenzo and Eliza Baker > They were probably related so they may have all been on one page. > Jim > James R. Baker, Jr. (jrbakerjr) > Free Genealogy Databases > http://www.jrbakerjr.com > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== INPUTNAM Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe follow the instructions in the welcome message.

Dear Jim; As I recall in my research, I found that in 1862 the Putnam Co. Boundry was changed. There were changes in the boundrys with Morgan & Hendricks .Therefore you may want to check those two counties for the 1850 census. There used to be a Mill Creek Township in Putnam along that eastern boundry but no longer. I have made a hand drawn map that shows where the first settlers lived in that 3 county confusing area. I took the original Tract books. When I come across it I will email you if I find any of your names. God Bless You, Candy Smothers [email protected] Date:Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:12:57 -0400From:"James R. Baker, Jr." <[email protected]>To:[email protected]:1850 censusHas anyone else found this? I believe that a portion of the 1850 census, probably in Putnam County, but possibly in Wayne County, is missing. The following people were in Wayne during the 1840's, then Putnam in the 1850's but are not found on the 1850 census anywhere. Susan Connett (Conant) widow born Maryland ca 1793 James and Phebe Baker Sylvester and Hulda Baker Lorenzo and Eliza Baker They were probably related so they may have all been on one page. Jim James R. Baker, Jr. (jrbakerjr) Free Genealogy Databases http://www.jrbakerjr.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Thanks. . . James R. Baker, Jr. (jrbakerjr) Free Genealogy Databases http://www.jrbakerjr.com . . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Bryant" <[email protected]> To: "James R. Baker, Jr." <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [INPUTNAM] Fw: Marriage Applications > In Putnam, 1905. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James R. Baker, Jr." <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 10:45 AM > Subject: Re: [INPUTNAM] Fw: Marriage Applications > > >>I know that in some Indiana counties, up to a certain point in time, only >>the names of bride and groom, plus the preacher are mentioned in the >>marriage record. >> After that point, ages, parents, etc. are also listed. I don't know just >> when that was started, but I think it was pretty late. I would like to >> know when the change took place. >> . >> . >> James R. Baker, Jr. (jrbakerjr) >> Free Genealogy Databases >> http://www.jrbakerjr.com >> . >> . >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sharon Bryant" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 10:29 AM >> Subject: [INPUTNAM] Fw: Marriage Applications >> >> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Frank Burns" <[email protected]> >>> To: "inputnam-l-request" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:14 AM >>> Subject: Marriage Applications >>> >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Mrs. Shanahan Webb brings up an interesting question today - Marriage >>>> Applications. >>>> >>>> It is my understanding that marriage applications have much more >>>> information than do marriage licenses. Does anyone know whether such >>>> are available at the Putnam County Clerk's office? >>>> >>>> It's a thrill to see so much interest in genealogy among Putnam County >>>> folks. Even though I'm far removed from the site, I'm still very >>>> interested in the subject. >>>> >>>> Hazel Allee Burns >>>> >>>> >>>> Hazel Allee Burns >>>> 4035 Greenwood Drive >>>> Fort Pierce, FL 34982-6150 >>>> Tel. 772-466-2764 >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== INPUTNAM Mailing List ==== >>> Visit the INGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~inputnam. >> >> >> ==== INPUTNAM Mailing List ==== >> Please send research questions to the list rather than the mailing list >> manager. Thank you. >> >> >

I would advise asking for the cost too. Several places on line say that the cost for a death record from them is $4. When I sent for one, they told me $8. Apparently they have raised prices recently. Jim . . James R. Baker, Jr. (jrbakerjr) Free Genealogy Databases http://www.jrbakerjr.com . . ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 10:49 AM Subject: [INPUTNAM] marriage applications > Yes they do have marriage applications I obtained my great grandparents. > Write to: > > Putnam County Clerks Office > PO Box 546 > Greencastle, IN 46135 > > enclose $2.00 for a certified copy of marriage certificate and a SASE. > You > will need to request the application as well I forget what that cost. But > remember to supply them with all the data you can. My grandfather's > surname was > misspelled. > > But with all the new laws on privacy etc things may have changed since I > obtained my records, so you might check here first. > Putnam County Health Dept. > Courthouse, Fourth Floor > Greencastle, IN 46135 > (765) 653-5210 > > Brenda > > > ==== INPUTNAM Mailing List ==== > Visit the INGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~inputnam.

Yes they do have marriage applications I obtained my great grandparents. Write to: Putnam County Clerks Office PO Box 546 Greencastle, IN 46135 enclose $2.00 for a certified copy of marriage certificate and a SASE. You will need to request the application as well I forget what that cost. But remember to supply them with all the data you can. My grandfather's surname was misspelled. But with all the new laws on privacy etc things may have changed since I obtained my records, so you might check here first. Putnam County Health Dept. Courthouse, Fourth Floor Greencastle, IN 46135 (765) 653-5210 Brenda

I know that in some Indiana counties, up to a certain point in time, only the names of bride and groom, plus the preacher are mentioned in the marriage record. After that point, ages, parents, etc. are also listed. I don't know just when that was started, but I think it was pretty late. I would like to know when the change took place. . . James R. Baker, Jr. (jrbakerjr) Free Genealogy Databases http://www.jrbakerjr.com . . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Bryant" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 10:29 AM Subject: [INPUTNAM] Fw: Marriage Applications > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Burns" <[email protected]> > To: "inputnam-l-request" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:14 AM > Subject: Marriage Applications > > >> Hi all, >> >> Mrs. Shanahan Webb brings up an interesting question today - Marriage >> Applications. >> >> It is my understanding that marriage applications have much more >> information than do marriage licenses. Does anyone know whether such are >> available at the Putnam County Clerk's office? >> >> It's a thrill to see so much interest in genealogy among Putnam County >> folks. Even though I'm far removed from the site, I'm still very >> interested in the subject. >> >> Hazel Allee Burns >> >> >> Hazel Allee Burns >> 4035 Greenwood Drive >> Fort Pierce, FL 34982-6150 >> Tel. 772-466-2764 >> [email protected] >> >> > > > > ==== INPUTNAM Mailing List ==== > Visit the INGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~inputnam.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Burns" <[email protected]> To: "inputnam-l-request" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:14 AM Subject: Marriage Applications > Hi all, > > Mrs. Shanahan Webb brings up an interesting question today - Marriage > Applications. > > It is my understanding that marriage applications have much more > information than do marriage licenses. Does anyone know whether such are > available at the Putnam County Clerk's office? > > It's a thrill to see so much interest in genealogy among Putnam County > folks. Even though I'm far removed from the site, I'm still very > interested in the subject. > > Hazel Allee Burns > > > Hazel Allee Burns > 4035 Greenwood Drive > Fort Pierce, FL 34982-6150 > Tel. 772-466-2764 > [email protected] > >