where could one purchase this land patent book and what is the cost..............thanks Sande Bonde-Moffat

In a message dated 10/3/2006 9:13:12 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Judy, Sorry, Rootsweb.com will not accept attachments. It might be accomplished by doing attachments to the individuals who are interested but not to the list itself. Sharon Bryant Mailing List Admin I've just ordered the book.. total costs using USPS is $36.52... I see Mr. Boyd has other land patent books.. a true blessing for us researchers.. !!!! Ellie Swanger

Most area Government issued Land Patents are free on line, including a copy of the actual documents at the BLM/GLO website. Log in HERE: http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/Logon/Logon_Form.asp with your zip code, for access. [email protected] wrote: > Thanks so much.. I sure could use that book.. My surnames are: MOSS, > WRIGHT, LOVE, RUSSELL, CUNNINGHAM (allied line), BOSWELL (allied), etc. > > Ellie Swanger > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thank You Jan. Shirley -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jan Patterson Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 12:07 PM To: Judy Gordon; [email protected] Subject: Re: [INPUTNAM] Land Patent Map It's from a copyrighted book and I'm not sure what the legalities would be of putting it on the web that way. In fact there are a whole series of books our library is just getting in that have these maps in them. I only copied those patents in Putnam Co, IN for the surnames Moss, Wright, Poyner and Scott, some Loves are included because of their proximity to the others. Since it's only a few pages I can legally send those few pages to individuals,(those of you who have requested what I have check your email boxes later today) but I'm not sure about posting them on the web. For all of you doing Putnam County, IN research I highly recommend trying to see a copy of this book. The title is FAMILY MAPS OF PUTNAM CO., IN, DELUXE ED. by Gregory A. Boyd, JD Arphax Publishing Co. call #r 929.3772 49 B 692F2005 If your library doesn't have it try interlibrary loan or put in a request that they get it. (I have no connection to this book what so ever) It is well laid out. In the very front of the book it has all of the listed surnames that are included in the book, it tells you how many patents there were for that surname. Another section breaks it down by surnames, with first names and tells you what map they are on. Then you go to that map and it breaks it down by exactly what section they are in on the map and gives the legal description (handy if you should ever want to check the abstracts out in states like AR and OK that require abstracts, more on this in a minute). It also shows if here are patents in other counties at this point. Once you go to the map and locate your person there it shows you when the patent was and who all their neighbors were. Example my Benjamin Poyner, which is why I even picked this book up. The listing showed he was on map group 3 in section 11 with no other counties listed. When I find him in section 11 it shows POYNER, Benjamin 1837 he is near the center of the section. Surrounding him in the section PLUNKITT, William, 1838, STEWART, Hiram 1848, BLEDSOE, Jefferson T. 1834 RILEY, Patrick 1832 and 1834, BARNARD, Abner 1833, MOSS, Ransom 1837, CARMAN, Isacc 1837, STEELE, Henry 1838, LOVE, Lyman (2) 1837, and COX, CARTER 1837. Because the map group has several sections on each page I can quickly see other family members in adjoining sections like Benjamin POYNER's son is in section 12 and his brother is in Section 10. It is very helpful to see the land laid out this way to understand how close in proximity family members and potential spouses were to each other. complete with a legend/key that gives you a scale reference to see how big their property actually was. There are also over all maps that show you where this particular map group was in Putnam County. All in all a very interesting and informative book. Apparently they are putting out an entire series of these books for all the states because our Tulsa, OK genealogy library has many of them and seems to be ordering more in constantly. I know there are ones on AR, and a few other states so far. Now about abstracts, it's a shame all states don't require them because they are a wealth of genealogical information. Anything and everything that has legal ramifications on the property must be included in an abstract. This means deaths, divorces, marriages, wills, etc. Abstracts are public domain, you just have to find where the abstract is stored which can be a bit tricky sometimes. Generally they are held at an abstract company in a town near where the land is. Sometimes you can find out at a court house where the abstract is, but not generally. Sometimes it's held by an individual. I know I had ours for awhile on two different pieces of property. VERY interesting reading. BTW Indian lands are included in the abstract law because both pieces I held had been Indian land at one time. Sorry, about not being able to post those pages on the web, but I think we'd have to have some sort of special permission to do so and since the copyright on it is just 2005 I doubt they'd give it right now. Jan who will gladly scan and send what she has to the individuals who asked for them in OK. Judy Gordon wrote: > Any chance of scanning and emailing this Land Patent Map as an attachment to > our list participants? > Judy Gordon > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Thanks so much.. I sure could use that book.. My surnames are: MOSS, WRIGHT, LOVE, RUSSELL, CUNNINGHAM (allied line), BOSWELL (allied), etc. Ellie Swanger

thanks for posting this, I didn't know about the OK one and will definitely be bugging our librarian to get it because I need some sort of documentation to show where my grandmother was born and she was in OK about the time the patents were done. Jan who found the series and didn't know about that one in OK. [email protected] wrote: > _http://www.arphax.com/modules.php?name=Book_Reviews_ > (http://www.arphax.com/modules.php?name=Book_Reviews) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Judy, Sorry, Rootsweb.com will not accept attachments. It might be accomplished by doing attachments to the individuals who are interested but not to the list itself. Sharon Bryant Mailing List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Gordon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [INPUTNAM] Land Patent Map > Any chance of scanning and emailing this Land Patent Map as an attachment > to > our list participants? > Judy Gordon > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It's from a copyrighted book and I'm not sure what the legalities would be of putting it on the web that way. In fact there are a whole series of books our library is just getting in that have these maps in them. I only copied those patents in Putnam Co, IN for the surnames Moss, Wright, Poyner and Scott, some Loves are included because of their proximity to the others. Since it's only a few pages I can legally send those few pages to individuals,(those of you who have requested what I have check your email boxes later today) but I'm not sure about posting them on the web. For all of you doing Putnam County, IN research I highly recommend trying to see a copy of this book. The title is FAMILY MAPS OF PUTNAM CO., IN, DELUXE ED. by Gregory A. Boyd, JD Arphax Publishing Co. call #r 929.3772 49 B 692F2005 If your library doesn't have it try interlibrary loan or put in a request that they get it. (I have no connection to this book what so ever) It is well laid out. In the very front of the book it has all of the listed surnames that are included in the book, it tells you how many patents there were for that surname. Another section breaks it down by surnames, with first names and tells you what map they are on. Then you go to that map and it breaks it down by exactly what section they are in on the map and gives the legal description (handy if you should ever want to check the abstracts out in states like AR and OK that require abstracts, more on this in a minute). It also shows if here are patents in other counties at this point. Once you go to the map and locate your person there it shows you when the patent was and who all their neighbors were. Example my Benjamin Poyner, which is why I even picked this book up. The listing showed he was on map group 3 in section 11 with no other counties listed. When I find him in section 11 it shows POYNER, Benjamin 1837 he is near the center of the section. Surrounding him in the section PLUNKITT, William, 1838, STEWART, Hiram 1848, BLEDSOE, Jefferson T. 1834 RILEY, Patrick 1832 and 1834, BARNARD, Abner 1833, MOSS, Ransom 1837, CARMAN, Isacc 1837, STEELE, Henry 1838, LOVE, Lyman (2) 1837, and COX, CARTER 1837. Because the map group has several sections on each page I can quickly see other family members in adjoining sections like Benjamin POYNER's son is in section 12 and his brother is in Section 10. It is very helpful to see the land laid out this way to understand how close in proximity family members and potential spouses were to each other. complete with a legend/key that gives you a scale reference to see how big their property actually was. There are also over all maps that show you where this particular map group was in Putnam County. All in all a very interesting and informative book. Apparently they are putting out an entire series of these books for all the states because our Tulsa, OK genealogy library has many of them and seems to be ordering more in constantly. I know there are ones on AR, and a few other states so far. Now about abstracts, it's a shame all states don't require them because they are a wealth of genealogical information. Anything and everything that has legal ramifications on the property must be included in an abstract. This means deaths, divorces, marriages, wills, etc. Abstracts are public domain, you just have to find where the abstract is stored which can be a bit tricky sometimes. Generally they are held at an abstract company in a town near where the land is. Sometimes you can find out at a court house where the abstract is, but not generally. Sometimes it's held by an individual. I know I had ours for awhile on two different pieces of property. VERY interesting reading. BTW Indian lands are included in the abstract law because both pieces I held had been Indian land at one time. Sorry, about not being able to post those pages on the web, but I think we'd have to have some sort of special permission to do so and since the copyright on it is just 2005 I doubt they'd give it right now. Jan who will gladly scan and send what she has to the individuals who asked for them in OK. Judy Gordon wrote: > Any chance of scanning and emailing this Land Patent Map as an attachment to > our list participants? > Judy Gordon > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Seeking death date and location if possible of Henry Harrison COSTIN and wife Sarah A DUNCAN... Sarah born 1832... Dont know on Henry... Any help appreciated... Thanks. Dick Carter [email protected]

Any chance of scanning and emailing this Land Patent Map as an attachment to our list participants? Judy Gordon

Sorry I have never heard of a Land Patent Map - what all does it show?? I have some LEE family in Putnam Co. in the early 1800's that I am trying to trace some of their whereabouts. Thanks Mary

If you wouldn't mind sharing it with me I would appreciate it as well.....I have a LOVE connection, well another BALDWIN researcher's line is connected to it, so I would pass it along to her. My Baldwin ancestors brother's married the Love sisters Mary and Margaret. thanks so very much, N.J. In a message dated 10/2/2006 3:29:07 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Living next door to Benjamin Poyner in 1837 (per a patent map I have) in Putnam Co, IN and near Lyman Love who was Delilah Love's brother and married to Mary Moss who was Delilah Moss's sister. A very tangled family tree. LOL! Do you have a copy of the land patent map? If not I can scan the info and send it to you. It's interesting to see how they all lived right together. It makes it more real. Jan who thanks you again in OK I would be interested in this land patent map too.. I descend as Shirley does.. by way of Mary Elizabeth Moss, d/o Ransom Moss, granddaughter of Wm & Martha (Wright) Moss. Shirley's grandfather and my grandfather were brothers and sons of John W. Russell and Mary Elizabeth Moss Russell. Ellie Stites Swanger N.J.Skinner White : [email protected] _My Family Tree Page_ (http://hometown.aol.com/vwhite0901/myhomepage/heritage.html) & _My Family and more_ (http://hometown.aol.com/vwhite0901/myhomepage/family.html) "Remember the days of old; consider the generations long past." (Deuteronomy 32:7a)

In a message dated 10/2/2006 3:29:07 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Living next door to Benjamin Poyner in 1837 (per a patent map I have) in Putnam Co, IN and near Lyman Love who was Delilah Love's brother and married to Mary Moss who was Delilah Moss's sister. A very tangled family tree. LOL! Do you have a copy of the land patent map? If not I can scan the info and send it to you. It's interesting to see how they all lived right together. It makes it more real. Jan who thanks you again in OK I would be interested in this land patent map too.. I descend as Shirley does.. by way of Mary Elizabeth Moss, d/o Ransom Moss, granddaughter of Wm & Martha (Wright) Moss. Shirley's grandfather and my grandfather were brothers and sons of John W. Russell and Mary Elizabeth Moss Russell. Ellie Stites Swanger

PS - thank you for the map and may I share it with my cousin Ellie, She is really the family historian. Shirley -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jan Patterson Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 5:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [INPUTNAM] Jacob and Delilah (MOSS) SCOTT family Living next door to Benjamin Poyner in 1837 (per a patent map I have) in Putnam Co, IN and near Lyman Love who was Delilah Love's brother and married to Mary Moss who was Delilah Moss's sister. A very tangled family tree. LOL! Do you have a copy of the land patent map? If not I can scan the info and send it to you. It's interesting to see how they all lived right together. It makes it more real. Jan who thanks you again in OK Shirley wrote: > Through Mary Elizabeth Moss, dau of Delilah Love and Ransom MOSS - > Ransom MOSS the son of William MOSS and Martha WRIGHT and brother to > Delilah MOSS. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jan Patterson > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 4:33 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [INPUTNAM] Jacob and Delilah (MOSS) SCOTT family > > Thank you! > > What part of Delilah's lineage do you connect to? Jan who is trying to > get docuentation in OK > > Shirley wrote: >> Try the following link - Herb is very careful with his research and I >> know Delilah MOSS is in it as she is in my line. >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~herbarkin >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jan, Yes, I would like to have a copy of that map. Mary Elizabeth MOSS, Called Elizabeth all her life, m John Russell, son of Barney Russell, son of Barnabas C. Russell. Barney's mother was he first wife of Barnabas C., who married her in KY or VA. We have not been able to find her. Shirley -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jan Patterson Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 5:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [INPUTNAM] Jacob and Delilah (MOSS) SCOTT family Living next door to Benjamin Poyner in 1837 (per a patent map I have) in Putnam Co, IN and near Lyman Love who was Delilah Love's brother and married to Mary Moss who was Delilah Moss's sister. A very tangled family tree. LOL! Do you have a copy of the land patent map? If not I can scan the info and send it to you. It's interesting to see how they all lived right together. It makes it more real. Jan who thanks you again in OK Shirley wrote: > Through Mary Elizabeth Moss, dau of Delilah Love and Ransom MOSS - > Ransom MOSS the son of William MOSS and Martha WRIGHT and brother to > Delilah MOSS. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jan Patterson > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 4:33 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [INPUTNAM] Jacob and Delilah (MOSS) SCOTT family > > Thank you! > > What part of Delilah's lineage do you connect to? Jan who is trying to > get docuentation in OK > > Shirley wrote: >> Try the following link - Herb is very careful with his research and I >> know Delilah MOSS is in it as she is in my line. >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~herbarkin >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INPUTNAM-reque[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Through Mary Elizabeth Moss, dau of Delilah Love and Ransom MOSS - Ransom MOSS the son of William MOSS and Martha WRIGHT and brother to Delilah MOSS. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jan Patterson Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 4:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [INPUTNAM] Jacob and Delilah (MOSS) SCOTT family Thank you! What part of Delilah's lineage do you connect to? Jan who is trying to get docuentation in OK Shirley wrote: > Try the following link - Herb is very careful with his research and I > know Delilah MOSS is in it as she is in my line. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~herbarkin > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try the following link - Herb is very careful with his research and I know Delilah MOSS is in it as she is in my line. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~herbarkin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jan Patterson Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 2:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [INPUTNAM] Jacob and Delilah (MOSS) SCOTT family Jacob SCOTT b. 1820 in KY md Delilah MOSS b. 1827 Putnam Co., IN d/o Martha WRIGHT and William MOSS on September 02, 1841. Over the years they had 9 children that I know of. With that background I need help on the following. 1. Documentation on Jacob's death in Basket Mts.,Umatilla,OR. Does anyone know where I can get a death record (OR doesn't have one), funeral home record or where he's buried so I could at least get tombstone photos. 2. Jacob's will? 3. Delilah's will? Obit etc from where she died in Appanoose Co, IA on April 26, 1862 would be wonderful. 4. Forward lineage on any of their children? William 1842 IN d? John Riley 1844 IN d. 1900 in ? Mary Scott abt 1845 IN d. ? md Henry MOSS s/o William H. and Bertha (WILLIAMS) MOSS b. 1836 in ? d. 1905 in ? abt. 1858 Martha Ann md. John L. Poyner-this is my line and I have much of the forward on it, but I need documentation on Martha's death. Malinda 1850 in ? d. 1930 Milton, Freewater, Umatilla County, Oregon David Franklin 1852 IN d. ? Margaret Aretta Ann 1854 Carthage, Jasper Co., MO d. 1942 Joseph, Wallowa County, Oregon Henry 1856 in MO d. 1942 Milton, Umatilla County, Oregon Elizabeth ? in ? d. 1862 in Appanoose, IA, probably of measles. 5. Land records that might list their children as well. Jan who thanks you in advance in OK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Living next door to Benjamin Poyner in 1837 (per a patent map I have) in Putnam Co, IN and near Lyman Love who was Delilah Love's brother and married to Mary Moss who was Delilah Moss's sister. A very tangled family tree. LOL! Do you have a copy of the land patent map? If not I can scan the info and send it to you. It's interesting to see how they all lived right together. It makes it more real. Jan who thanks you again in OK Shirley wrote: > Through Mary Elizabeth Moss, dau of Delilah Love and Ransom MOSS - > Ransom MOSS the son of William MOSS and Martha WRIGHT and brother to > Delilah MOSS. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jan Patterson > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 4:33 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [INPUTNAM] Jacob and Delilah (MOSS) SCOTT family > > Thank you! > > What part of Delilah's lineage do you connect to? Jan who is trying to > get docuentation in OK > > Shirley wrote: >> Try the following link - Herb is very careful with his research and I >> know Delilah MOSS is in it as she is in my line. >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~herbarkin >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thank you! What part of Delilah's lineage do you connect to? Jan who is trying to get docuentation in OK Shirley wrote: > Try the following link - Herb is very careful with his research and I > know Delilah MOSS is in it as she is in my line. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~herbarkin > >