In a message dated 2/7/02 12:49:41 AM US Eastern Standard Time, sianoil@hotmail.com writes: > Jack: > I'm not so sure the trustee has the authority to give you permission to > probe if it violates state law, like our attorney says it might. But then > who raelly knows? Also, I thought a C.O. has more power than a State Police > > Officer. That is what I was always told, anyway. Yeah, in short it's a > screwed up mess. > Jon Andrews > > Jon, When we cleaned the Fowler/Mundy Cemetery in Perry Twp. Marion Co, Saturday July 15th 2000 the C.O. was called out to see what was going on. When he found out we were working with Jack Sandlin, the Perry Twp Trustee, he talked to him for a few minutes and then said no problem and left. Jack Briles

Jack, At least people there seem to care enough to call a cop when they think something might not be right. In our county, we've always said no one watches the cemeteries and you could kill your wife tonight and take her to any one of them and bury her and no one would be the wiser. I finally got the City of Placerville to pass an ordinance prohibiting entrance to the city's cemeteries after dark. That gave the neighbors a tool to use to call the cops any time someone was in there at night. (Of course, it's a misdemeanor, but if they're vandalizing, it gets kicked up into the Penal Code.) Sue > > > Jon, > When we cleaned the Fowler/Mundy Cemetery in Perry Twp. Marion Co, Saturday > July 15th 2000 the C.O. was called out to see what was going on. When he > found out we were working with Jack Sandlin, the Perry Twp Trustee, he talked > to him for a few minutes and then said no problem and left. > Jack Briles > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > This list is for discussion of topics related to the Indiana Pioneer > Cemeteries Restoration Project only. > >

Hello list' I am currently working on Fall Creek Union Cemetery in Washington Twp.,Marion Co. In. this is one of six cemeteries Washington Township Trustee contracted me to restore.I was concerned about probing,recovering,and removing stones when necessary to accomplish restoration.I spoke with the DNR and was advised to have a permission slip from the Township Trustee.I agree with Jack it is always a good thing to get permission.I must also say that I would go to jail with the rest of you if probing for lost and missing History is illegal. The permission slip I have and carry with me to and from the Cemetery simply states..... To Whom It May Concern: I give John Walters permission to probe,recover,and remove stones for the purposes of restoration at the following cemeteries: Newby Cemetery, 79th & Springmill Rd. Bacon Cemetery, S/E Corner,Kessler Blvd. & Keystone DeFord Cemetery, 4700 E.75th St. Crows Nest Cemetery, Springmill Rd. & Kessler Blvd. Fall Creek Union Cemetery, 4100 Millersville Rd. Ebenezer Lutheran Church Cemetery,directly behind Fall Creek Union Cemetery Sincerely, Gwendolyn, M. Horth Township Trustee It has her letterhead and signature on it. I know that these new Cemetery Laws have a lot of loop holes in them and you guys do a terrific job of picking them to death as they should be.But, I spoke with Rep. Mark Lytle at the Madison workshop and he stated to me the intent of these new laws is not to prevent or stop rightful restoration. John "Walt" Walters ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jb502000@aol.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:08 AM Subject: Re: [INPCRP] FINDING SUNKEN HEADSTONES > In a message dated 2/7/02 12:49:41 AM US Eastern Standard Time, > sianoil@hotmail.com writes: > > > > Jack: > > I'm not so sure the trustee has the authority to give you permission to > > probe if it violates state law, like our attorney says it might. But then > > who raelly knows? Also, I thought a C.O. has more power than a State Police > > > > Officer. That is what I was always told, anyway. Yeah, in short it's a > > screwed up mess. > > Jon Andrews > > > > Jon, > When we cleaned the Fowler/Mundy Cemetery in Perry Twp. Marion Co, Saturday > July 15th 2000 the C.O. was called out to see what was going on. When he > found out we were working with Jack Sandlin, the Perry Twp Trustee, he talked > to him for a few minutes and then said no problem and left. > Jack Briles > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > This list is for discussion of topics related to the Indiana Pioneer > Cemeteries Restoration Project only. > > >

PLEASE DO NOT FEEL OFFENDED BY THE BIG PRINT FOR I HAVE EYE PROBLEMS...THANKS. HELLO JOHN "WALT" WALTERS--- VERY GLAD TO HEAR YOU ARE WORKING ON THE "FALL CREEK CEMETERY"--4100 MILLERSVILLE ROAD, WASH TWP. MARIOIN COUNTY, IN.--I'M SO HAPPY I AM CRYING!!! I HAVE A LOT OF RELATIVES BURIED IN BOTH "FALL CREEK" AND "EBENEZER LUTHERAN CEMETERY"--- ON THE "INDIANA STATE LIBRARY LISTINGS" CALLS OUT 800+ BURIED (THAT'S INCLUDING BOTH CEMETERIES TOGETHER.) BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT AFTER I MATCHED-UP THIS LISTING TO THE DEATH CERTS I HAVE FOR ALL MY RELATIVES BURIED THERE------THERE SURE IS A LOT OF NAMES NOT CALLED OUT ON THE "INDIANA STATE LIBRARY"-LISTS. THERE IS A LOT OF SUNKEN HEADSTONES IN BOTH GRAVEYARDS. AND THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF VANDLES THROWING HEADSTONES INTO "FALL CREEK" (WATERS). PLEASE DO NOT BE AFRAID OF ME FOR I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU IN REGARDS TO HOW EVERYTHING IS GOING ALONG. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE CONTACTED GWEN AND ASK OF HER TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP BOTH CEMETERIES IN RESTORING THEIR CONDITIONS.......I GUESS FOR THE PAST 2 YEARS.. FEEL FREE TO E-MAIL......LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. I'M FULL OF QUESTIONS: WHEN DID YOU START WORKING IN THE CEMETERY?--- DO YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HELPING YOU? AND ALOT MORE QUESTIONS ONLY BECAUSE I CARE... AND HAVE THE RESPECT FOR ALL OF OUR LOVED ONES, NOT JUST MINE. PLEASE ANSWER, MARILYNJO EVERETT, WASHINGTON ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Walters" <graveyardgroomer@skyenet.net> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 5:13 AM Subject: Re: [INPCRP] FINDING SUNKEN HEADSTONES > Hello list' > I am currently working on Fall Creek Union Cemetery in Washington Twp.,Marion Co. In. this is one of six cemeteries Washington Township Trustee contracted me to restore.I was concerned about probing,recovering,and removing stones when necessary to accomplish restoration.I spoke with the DNR and was advised to have a permission slip from the Township Trustee.I agree with Jack it is always a good thing to get permission.I must also say that I would go to jail with the rest of you if probing for lost and missing History is illegal. > The permission slip I have and carry with me to and from the Cemetery simply states..... > > To Whom It May Concern: > > I give John Walters permission to probe,recover,and remove stones for the purposes of restoration at the following cemeteries: > > Newby Cemetery, 79th & Springmill Rd. > Bacon Cemetery, S/E Corner,Kessler Blvd. & Keystone > DeFord Cemetery, 4700 E.75th St. > Crows Nest Cemetery, Springmill Rd. & Kessler Blvd. > Fall Creek Union Cemetery, 4100 Millersville Rd. > Ebenezer Lutheran Church Cemetery,directly behind Fall Creek Union Cemetery > > Sincerely, > > Gwendolyn, M. Horth > Township Trustee > > > It has her letterhead and signature on it. > I know that these new Cemetery Laws have a lot of loop holes in them and you guys do a terrific job of picking them to death as they should be.But, I spoke with Rep. Mark Lytle at the Madison workshop and he stated to me the intent of these new laws is not to prevent or stop rightful restoration. > > John "Walt" Walters > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Jb502000@aol.com> > To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:08 AM > Subject: Re: [INPCRP] FINDING SUNKEN HEADSTONES > > > > In a message dated 2/7/02 12:49:41 AM US Eastern Standard Time, > > sianoil@hotmail.com writes: > > > > > > > Jack: > > > I'm not so sure the trustee has the authority to give you permission to > > > probe if it violates state law, like our attorney says it might. But then > > > who raelly knows? Also, I thought a C.O. has more power than a State Police > > > > > > Officer. That is what I was always told, anyway. Yeah, in short it's a > > > screwed up mess. > > > Jon Andrews > > > > > > Jon, > > When we cleaned the Fowler/Mundy Cemetery in Perry Twp. Marion Co, Saturday > > July 15th 2000 the C.O. was called out to see what was going on. When he > > found out we were working with Jack Sandlin, the Perry Twp Trustee, he talked > > to him for a few minutes and then said no problem and left. > > Jack Briles > > > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > > This list is for discussion of topics related to the Indiana Pioneer > > Cemeteries Restoration Project only. > > > > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Please do not send queries through this list. >