I think this is a terrific idea. If enough people went to something like this and called the press in to cover it, it would send a strong message to lawmakers that there is tremendous interest in saving and preserving these places. It has been my experience that the cemetery authorities, particularly the cities and counties, will only opt to do minimal repair, at best. Sometimes they deem them unrepairable and remove them entirely. Not a good thing at all. I encourage a representative group of folks to assemble and go take care of this cemetery to make a statement and set an example. But get some really good press on it. Especially TV. I can't tell you how valuable TV news coverage is. The politicians can miss an article in a local paper, but even if they miss the TV news someone they know will have seen it. Good luck! Sue Silver California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhonda Stoffer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 11:46 AM Subject: RE: [INPCRP] What cemetery was hit last night? > Maybe this would be good publicity for the plight of cemeteries if people on > this list would offer their help to repair the damage. Many of the stones I > saw in the photos looked to be repairable, I'm willing to offer my > assistance if some of our more experienced restorers would be willing to > help with repairs. I can't epoxy a stone, but I can clean, dig and help > someone else. > > Rhonda Stoffer > Head of Indiana History and Genealogy Services > Marion Public Library > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brad Manzenberger [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:50 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [INPCRP] What cemetery was hit last night? > > > Sorry, that should have been 24 stones in 23 photos are online, not 28. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brad Manzenberger [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 9:09 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [INPCRP] What cemetery was hit last night? > > > I have photographed 28 damaged stones (one article says there are 30 but I > have found only 28 so far) at Greenlawn this morning and have posted them > online along with articles from The Daily Journal (Johnson Co.) and WTHR- > Ch. 13 at http://www.bradmanz.com/greenlawn_vandals.html > > Brad Manzenberger > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sharon Howell [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 8:53 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [INPCRP] What cemetery was hit last night? > > > Greenlawn Cemetery in Franklin is the one on the east side of US31, just > south of SR44. The article takes up half the front page today. > http://www.thejournalnet.com/ 6/30/04 > > The short version is: the city maintains the grounds, individuals are > responsible for the stones. "Park board members will discuss the vandalism > issue at their next meeting July 26 and decide whether to pay for some of > the damage." The article also states that tombstones are "actually very > fragile and easier to knock over than people think." We sure didn't need > that statement put out to the public! The photos don't show any broken > stones, just toppled apart. > > Sharon Howell > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know. > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of > "UNSUBSCRIBE" to [email protected] > or to [email protected] (for DIGEST version) > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > THIS IS A CEMETERY ----- > "Lives are commemorated - deaths are recorded - families > are reunited - memories are made tangible - and love is > undisguised. This is a cemetery. > "Communities accord respect, families bestow reverence, > historians seek information and our heritage is thereby enriched. > "Testimonies of devotion, pride and remembrance are carved > in stone to pay warm tribute to accomplishments and to the life - > not the death - of a loved one. The cemetery is homeland for family > memorials that are a sustaining source of comfort to the living. > "A cemetery is a history of people - a perpetual record of > yesterday and sanctuary of peace and quiet today. A cemetery > exists because every life is worth loving and remembering - always." > --Author unknown -- Seen at a monument dealer in West Union, IA > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know. >
Hi everybody, I think this is a great idea too. Instead of protesting, we could be part of the SOLUTION by assisting in the repairs. If the INPCRP group decides to get together and do this, I think tee shirts could be made up to identify us. Maybe in bright red saying "INPCRP at Work"???? [Note: I wouldn't recommend the color orange for the tee shirts. People might mistake us for inmates!! (Remember that Bud!?] I would love to be there. I am still recuperating from herniated disc surgery and will not be able to work in the cemeteries for probably the whole rest of this year. I sure do miss working out in "the yard". :-( Angela Tielking ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Silver" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [INPCRP] What cemetery was hit last night? > I think this is a terrific idea. If enough people went to something like > this and called the press in to cover it, it would send a strong message to > lawmakers that there is tremendous interest in saving and preserving these > places. It has been my experience that the cemetery authorities, > particularly the cities and counties, will only opt to do minimal repair, at > best. Sometimes they deem them unrepairable and remove them entirely. Not > a good thing at all. > > I encourage a representative group of folks to assemble and go take care of > this cemetery to make a statement and set an example. But get some really > good press on it. Especially TV. I can't tell you how valuable TV news > coverage is. The politicians can miss an article in a local paper, but even > if they miss the TV news someone they know will have seen it. > > Good luck! > Sue Silver > California > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rhonda Stoffer" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 11:46 AM > Subject: RE: [INPCRP] What cemetery was hit last night? > > > > Maybe this would be good publicity for the plight of cemeteries if people > on > > this list would offer their help to repair the damage. Many of the stones > I > > saw in the photos looked to be repairable, I'm willing to offer my > > assistance if some of our more experienced restorers would be willing to > > help with repairs. I can't epoxy a stone, but I can clean, dig and help > > someone else. > > > > Rhonda Stoffer > > Head of Indiana History and Genealogy Services > > Marion Public Library > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brad Manzenberger [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:50 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [INPCRP] What cemetery was hit last night? > > > > > > Sorry, that should have been 24 stones in 23 photos are online, not 28. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brad Manzenberger [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 9:09 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [INPCRP] What cemetery was hit last night? > > > > > > I have photographed 28 damaged stones (one article says there are 30 but I > > have found only 28 so far) at Greenlawn this morning and have posted them > > online along with articles from The Daily Journal (Johnson Co.) and WTHR- > > Ch. 13 at http://www.bradmanz.com/greenlawn_vandals.html > > > > Brad Manzenberger > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sharon Howell [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 8:53 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [INPCRP] What cemetery was hit last night? > > > > > > Greenlawn Cemetery in Franklin is the one on the east side of US31, just > > south of SR44. The article takes up half the front page today. > > http://www.thejournalnet.com/ 6/30/04 > > > > The short version is: the city maintains the grounds, individuals are > > responsible for the stones. "Park board members will discuss the > vandalism > > issue at their next meeting July 26 and decide whether to pay for some of > > the damage." The article also states that tombstones are "actually very > > fragile and easier to knock over than people think." We sure didn't need > > that statement put out to the public! The photos don't show any broken > > stones, just toppled apart. > > > > Sharon Howell > > > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > > Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know. > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of > > "UNSUBSCRIBE" to [email protected] > > or to [email protected] (for DIGEST version) > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > > THIS IS A CEMETERY ----- > > "Lives are commemorated - deaths are recorded - families > > are reunited - memories are made tangible - and love is > > undisguised. This is a cemetery. > > "Communities accord respect, families bestow reverence, > > historians seek information and our heritage is thereby enriched. > > "Testimonies of devotion, pride and remembrance are carved > > in stone to pay warm tribute to accomplishments and to the life - > > not the death - of a loved one. The cemetery is homeland for family > > memorials that are a sustaining source of comfort to the living. > > "A cemetery is a history of people - a perpetual record of > > yesterday and sanctuary of peace and quiet today. A cemetery > > exists because every life is worth loving and remembering - always." > > --Author unknown -- Seen at a monument dealer in West Union, IA > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > > Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know. > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know. >