If you know the section, township and range of the property, you can look up the federal patent online. Just do a search on Bureau of Land Management. Go to the site and do a "Search for Land Patents." You will all those who patented land in that particular section, but it gives you a starting point. Here in gold rush country, we even try to trace the property back through those who claimed "possessory right" to ownership under the pre-emption of claim act. We've found at least two deeds executed prior to the federal land patent that excepted a burial plot. It's fairly tedious when you get someone who owned lots of property, but when you find the exception, that's your reward. Sue Silver CA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jb502000@aol.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [INPCRP] What's my next step? > In a message dated 11/10/01 3:27:36 PM US Eastern Standard Time, > djd434@rnetinc.net writes: > > > > I've pulled and copied all the deeds on a property which surrounds a pioneer > > cemetery. The deeds do describe an exception in terms that a surveyor > > would understand, but I didn't find any document describing that the > > exception was specifically for a cemetery. The current owners bought this > > property in May 1998, and on their deed this exception mysteriously > > disappeared. Also on the current deed only, the acreage just as > > mysteriously "grew". Most of this cemetery was bulldozed in the 1960's. > > Only one stone remains standing, but it is very obvious there was a > > cemetery there. > > > > > > How far back did you go. If there is an Exception It will say "Except for > (Size) to be used as a Graveyard." It is very highly unlikely it will say > cemetery. It can also say for "A Family Burial Site" or A Family Graveyard. > Very seldom on an Exception here in Floyd County does it give a Surveyors > description that pin points the site. It just Excepts the Area of the > Graveyard. It will give either the Size, such as 75 X 75, or it may be > something like a Quarter Acre. > It will give the Surveyors size such as Rods, Chains, or Poles if > there is a separate deed instead of an Exception. Sometimes I find it Quicker > to Start at the Original Owner listed in the Government Land Sales and work > forward until I find a Deed, or an Exception. You can Locate the first owner > by finding out who bought that particular Quarter Section, 160 Acres, which > is the way Early Sales were made. Poorer land later was sold in 80 Acre > Parcels, and later if not sold it was sold by the Government in 40 Acre > parcels. Early Land sales in Floyd Co. are in a Book in the recorders Office. > Some early Sales are in a Land Book from Vincennes, Later Jeffersonville. It > is not uncommon to find them dropped off the deed a 150 years ago. Because as > Jon. or Sue, or someone said earlier, an Exception cannot legally be > dissolved. > It was a part of a Deed and is as Legal a Term as you will find in > the Present or past deeds The present owners have not been Duped, that > happened a long time ago. Times were different then than they are now. The > cemetery was there so no big deal about putting it on a deed. Also some > wanted to make sure they got all the money they could. You can check with the > Trustee, but if they are paying Taxes on the Cemetery, they can have it > removed from their Taxes if you can Find the right deed. Good Luck, I can't > help any more than this. Someone Else Give it a try. > > Jack E. Briles, Sr. > Floyd County PCRP Coordinator > PO Box 444 > New Albany, In. 47151-0444 > (812) 282-6585 > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > "Show me your cemeteries, and I will tell you what kind of people you have." > Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790) > >

Hello, You can search Bureau of Land Management General Land Office Records on-line at this website: http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/logon/logon.asp or: http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/search/search.asp There are several ways to search, by name, by location, etc. The original thirteen colonies and a few other states are not listed, but most are. Ernie At 06:39 AM 11/11/01, you wrote: >If you know the section, township and range of the property, you can look up >the federal patent online. Just do a search on Bureau of Land Management. >Go to the site and do a "Search for Land Patents." > >You will all those who patented land in that particular section, but it >gives you a starting point. > >Here in gold rush country, we even try to trace the property back through >those who claimed "possessory right" to ownership under the pre-emption of >claim act. We've found at least two deeds executed prior to the federal >land patent that excepted a burial plot. > >It's fairly tedious when you get someone who owned lots of property, but >when you find the exception, that's your reward. > >Sue Silver >CA >----- Original Message ----- >From: <Jb502000@aol.com> >To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 2:56 PM >Subject: Re: [INPCRP] What's my next step? > > > > In a message dated 11/10/01 3:27:36 PM US Eastern Standard Time, > > djd434@rnetinc.net writes: > > > > > > > I've pulled and copied all the deeds on a property which surrounds a >pioneer > > > cemetery. The deeds do describe an exception in terms that a surveyor > > > would understand, but I didn't find any document describing that the > > > exception was specifically for a cemetery. The current owners bought >this > > > property in May 1998, and on their deed this exception mysteriously > > > disappeared. Also on the current deed only, the acreage just as > > > mysteriously "grew". Most of this cemetery was bulldozed in the 1960's. > > > Only one stone remains standing, but it is very obvious there was a > > > cemetery there. > > > > > > > > > > How far back did you go. If there is an Exception It will say "Except >for > > (Size) to be used as a Graveyard." It is very highly unlikely it will say > > cemetery. It can also say for "A Family Burial Site" or A Family >Graveyard. > > Very seldom on an Exception here in Floyd County does it give a Surveyors > > description that pin points the site. It just Excepts the Area of the > > Graveyard. It will give either the Size, such as 75 X 75, or it may be > > something like a Quarter Acre. > > It will give the Surveyors size such as Rods, Chains, or Poles >if > > there is a separate deed instead of an Exception. Sometimes I find it >Quicker > > to Start at the Original Owner listed in the Government Land Sales and >work > > forward until I find a Deed, or an Exception. You can Locate the first >owner > > by finding out who bought that particular Quarter Section, 160 Acres, >which > > is the way Early Sales were made. Poorer land later was sold in 80 Acre > > Parcels, and later if not sold it was sold by the Government in 40 Acre > > parcels. Early Land sales in Floyd Co. are in a Book in the recorders >Office. > > Some early Sales are in a Land Book from Vincennes, Later Jeffersonville. >It > > is not uncommon to find them dropped off the deed a 150 years ago. Because >as > > Jon. or Sue, or someone said earlier, an Exception cannot legally be > > dissolved. > > It was a part of a Deed and is as Legal a Term as you will find >in > > the Present or past deeds The present owners have not been Duped, that > > happened a long time ago. Times were different then than they are now. The > > cemetery was there so no big deal about putting it on a deed. Also some > > wanted to make sure they got all the money they could. You can check with >the > > Trustee, but if they are paying Taxes on the Cemetery, they can have it > > removed from their Taxes if you can Find the right deed. Good Luck, I >can't > > help any more than this. Someone Else Give it a try. > > > > Jack E. Briles, Sr. > > Floyd County PCRP Coordinator > > PO Box 444 > > New Albany, In. 47151-0444 > > (812) 282-6585 > > > > > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > > "Show me your cemeteries, and I will tell you what kind of people you >have." > > Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790) > > > > > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >If you know of some good cemetery related links, send them to >LoisMauk@usa.net.

Sue, An excellent search method unless (1) your ancestor bought land early on credit, or (2) used a military land warrant. Those records will not appear in the database. The GLO does make that statement, but people may not notice. Sharon Mills At 04:39 AM 11/11/01 -0800, you wrote: >If you know the section, township and range of the property, you can look up >the federal patent online. Just do a search on Bureau of Land Management. >Go to the site and do a "Search for Land Patents." > >You will all those who patented land in that particular section, but it >gives you a starting point. > >Here in gold rush country, we even try to trace the property back through >those who claimed "possessory right" to ownership under the pre-emption of >claim act. We've found at least two deeds executed prior to the federal >land patent that excepted a burial plot. > >It's fairly tedious when you get someone who owned lots of property, but >when you find the exception, that's your reward. > >Sue Silver >CA >----- Original Message ----- >From: <Jb502000@aol.com> >To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 2:56 PM >Subject: Re: [INPCRP] What's my next step? > > >> In a message dated 11/10/01 3:27:36 PM US Eastern Standard Time, >> djd434@rnetinc.net writes: >> >> >> > I've pulled and copied all the deeds on a property which surrounds a >pioneer >> > cemetery. The deeds do describe an exception in terms that a surveyor >> > would understand, but I didn't find any document describing that the >> > exception was specifically for a cemetery. The current owners bought >this >> > property in May 1998, and on their deed this exception mysteriously >> > disappeared. Also on the current deed only, the acreage just as >> > mysteriously "grew". Most of this cemetery was bulldozed in the 1960's. >> > Only one stone remains standing, but it is very obvious there was a >> > cemetery there. >> > >> > >> >> How far back did you go. If there is an Exception It will say "Except >for >> (Size) to be used as a Graveyard." It is very highly unlikely it will say >> cemetery. It can also say for "A Family Burial Site" or A Family >Graveyard. >> Very seldom on an Exception here in Floyd County does it give a Surveyors >> description that pin points the site. It just Excepts the Area of the >> Graveyard. It will give either the Size, such as 75 X 75, or it may be >> something like a Quarter Acre. >> It will give the Surveyors size such as Rods, Chains, or Poles >if >> there is a separate deed instead of an Exception. Sometimes I find it >Quicker >> to Start at the Original Owner listed in the Government Land Sales and >work >> forward until I find a Deed, or an Exception. You can Locate the first >owner >> by finding out who bought that particular Quarter Section, 160 Acres, >which >> is the way Early Sales were made. Poorer land later was sold in 80 Acre >> Parcels, and later if not sold it was sold by the Government in 40 Acre >> parcels. Early Land sales in Floyd Co. are in a Book in the recorders >Office. >> Some early Sales are in a Land Book from Vincennes, Later Jeffersonville. >It >> is not uncommon to find them dropped off the deed a 150 years ago. Because >as >> Jon. or Sue, or someone said earlier, an Exception cannot legally be >> dissolved. >> It was a part of a Deed and is as Legal a Term as you will find >in >> the Present or past deeds The present owners have not been Duped, that >> happened a long time ago. Times were different then than they are now. The >> cemetery was there so no big deal about putting it on a deed. Also some >> wanted to make sure they got all the money they could. You can check with >the >> Trustee, but if they are paying Taxes on the Cemetery, they can have it >> removed from their Taxes if you can Find the right deed. Good Luck, I >can't >> help any more than this. Someone Else Give it a try. >> >> Jack E. Briles, Sr. >> Floyd County PCRP Coordinator >> PO Box 444 >> New Albany, In. 47151-0444 >> (812) 282-6585 >> >> >> >> >> ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >> "Show me your cemeteries, and I will tell you what kind of people you >have." >> Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790) >> >> > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >If you know of some good cemetery related links, send them to LoisMauk@usa.net. > > >