Brad: What do you need in order for a cemetery quality for the "Hall of Fame"? Joan Wray Tipton County ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theresa Berghoff" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 8:53 PM Subject: RE: [INPCRP] A novel way to raise money for a cemetery Brad, I'm glad you are ok with taking care of the website, being list administrator, and media coordinator. You are doing a fantastic job! I just thought we should revisit the recommendations Lois made, so we could cover everything, and not have anyone get overwhelmed & burnt out. I hope Angela Tielking will be the official spokesperson for legislative issues. Angela,if you are out there, please think about it. You have done a great job so far. You have a good grasp of the issues, you are very articulate, and when you speak people can tell your heart is in this work. Larry, Wow . You have put a lot of thought into the idea of certification.I will have to read your e-mail again to absorb it all. We have been down this road before. I remember there were some people who had been doing restoration for a long time who kind of took offense at the idea. In a way I understand that. I also know there are alot of people in this group who are very independent and some days not 3 of us could agree on a thing. You are however right about the need to be recognized as preservationist with some training and experience. And we don't want every Tom, Dick, & Harry out running around claiming to know how to restore tombstones & making a bigger mess. So I guess this needs more discussion. Are there any other states with certification? Does the Association for Gravestone Studies or the National Center for Preservation Technology and Training give anything to their workshop participants? Theresa Berghoff Brad Manzenberger <[email protected]> wrote: Lots of great ideas Theresa! As far as breaking down the state coordinator, I have no problem with the site, list admin and being the contact point for the media, etc. I think it would be better if someone else coordinated legislative and educational aspects of it. I can help, but I don't have the time to head them up. I am going to add the Hall of Fame to the site. Walt suggested it recently and it is a very good idea. We need to show the positive side of this so people in our communities can see that these places can be fixed. Hopefully that will generate more interest. There is not a main Hall of Fame main page yet- please stand by. I have placed one cemetery in the Hall of Fame- Spring Friends Cemetery in Hendricks Co. This is the cemetery Jessica Felix has her students working in. It can be accessed at http://www.inpcrp.org/HallofFame/hendricks_spring_friends.html. I have also added a page for Tipton Co. which can be accessed through the county coordinators page. Joan has sent me some more pictures and info that I will get posted soon. If you have any candidates for the Hall of Fame please send them to me, but be patient about getting them posted. I've had some free time and am taking advantage of the great weather to get some restoration work done in Franklin. Thanks, Brad -----Original Message----- From: Theresa Berghoff [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 4:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [INPCRP] A novel way to raise money for a cemetery I'm glad this calendar/ fund raising discussion has come round to the structure of the INPCRP. Some of us have been talking about this recently. While it would be nice to have money for cemetery projects, the structure needed for a 501c3 organization could be a burden and go against the grain of some of us independent minded preservationist. I do think that we need more structure than we have. We have made great strides this summer. Having Brad come on as webmaster & update the website has made a world of difference. When Lois resigned, she broke down the State Coordinators job description into 3 parts-webmaster- spokes person to do PR & work with the Legislature - list monitor. We need to think about where we want to go & what positions we need to get there .We have 2 new County coordinators, but most of the 92 counties are not covered. We need more visibility, that's what the t-shirts and requests for letters to legislators,and county prosecutors is about. Most of the state doesn't know we exist. Having some organization is helpful when we go to the Legislature. Education is needed in these areas: 1 cemetery care, maintenance, & repair guidelines for Township Trustees, Cemetery Associations & the people they hire. 2 preservation project guidelines for Boy Scout & Girl Scout Councils, schools ect. 3 cemetery visitation guides for libraries, & genealogy societies. 4 recording methods for County Recorders . 5 cemetery law for the general public Maybe we could joint venture some education material with the IN Township Association, IN Historical Society, Historic Landmarks Foundation, or DNR-DHPA. Other ideas I have heard: more workshops & work days more school projects like Rhonda Stoffer & Jessica Felix are doing work with the Ball State Landscape Architecture & Historic Preservation program meet with IN Prosecutors group create a Hall of Fame for restored cemeteries vandalism response info for cemeteries reunion for workshop people Scott talked about doing a book of restored cemeteries So what about any of this? Theresa ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== THIS IS A CEMETERY ----- "Lives are commemorated - deaths are recorded - families are reunited - memories are made tangible - and love is undisguised. This is a cemetery. "Communities accord respect, families bestow reverence, historians seek information and our heritage is thereby enriched. "Testimonies of devotion, pride and remembrance are carved in stone to pay warm tribute to accomplishments and to the life - not the death - of a loved one. The cemetery is homeland for family memorials that are a sustaining source of comfort to the living. "A cemetery is a history of people - a perpetual record of yesterday and sanctuary of peace and quiet today. A cemetery exists because every life is worth loving and remembering - always." --Author unknown -- Seen at a monument dealer in West Union, IA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== "Show me your cemeteries, and I will tell you what kind of people you have." Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790)

For the Hall of Fame the cemetery should have been restored as much as possible or be in the process of being restored. It's mainly a way to show the positive side instead of it always being negative. Brad -----Original Message----- From: Joan Wray [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 7:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [INPCRP] A novel way to raise money for a cemetery Brad: What do you need in order for a cemetery quality for the "Hall of Fame"? Joan Wray Tipton County ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theresa Berghoff" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 8:53 PM Subject: RE: [INPCRP] A novel way to raise money for a cemetery Brad, I'm glad you are ok with taking care of the website, being list administrator, and media coordinator. You are doing a fantastic job! I just thought we should revisit the recommendations Lois made, so we could cover everything, and not have anyone get overwhelmed & burnt out. I hope Angela Tielking will be the official spokesperson for legislative issues. Angela,if you are out there, please think about it. You have done a great job so far. You have a good grasp of the issues, you are very articulate, and when you speak people can tell your heart is in this work. Larry, Wow . You have put a lot of thought into the idea of certification.I will have to read your e-mail again to absorb it all. We have been down this road before. I remember there were some people who had been doing restoration for a long time who kind of took offense at the idea. In a way I understand that. I also know there are alot of people in this group who are very independent and some days not 3 of us could agree on a thing. You are however right about the need to be recognized as preservationist with some training and experience. And we don't want every Tom, Dick, & Harry out running around claiming to know how to restore tombstones & making a bigger mess. So I guess this needs more discussion. Are there any other states with certification? Does the Association for Gravestone Studies or the National Center for Preservation Technology and Training give anything to their workshop participants? Theresa Berghoff Brad Manzenberger <[email protected]> wrote: Lots of great ideas Theresa! As far as breaking down the state coordinator, I have no problem with the site, list admin and being the contact point for the media, etc. I think it would be better if someone else coordinated legislative and educational aspects of it. I can help, but I don't have the time to head them up. I am going to add the Hall of Fame to the site. Walt suggested it recently and it is a very good idea. We need to show the positive side of this so people in our communities can see that these places can be fixed. Hopefully that will generate more interest. There is not a main Hall of Fame main page yet- please stand by. I have placed one cemetery in the Hall of Fame- Spring Friends Cemetery in Hendricks Co. This is the cemetery Jessica Felix has her students working in. It can be accessed at http://www.inpcrp.org/HallofFame/hendricks_spring_friends.html. I have also added a page for Tipton Co. which can be accessed through the county coordinators page. Joan has sent me some more pictures and info that I will get posted soon. If you have any candidates for the Hall of Fame please send them to me, but be patient about getting them posted. I've had some free time and am taking advantage of the great weather to get some restoration work done in Franklin. Thanks, Brad -----Original Message----- From: Theresa Berghoff [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 4:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [INPCRP] A novel way to raise money for a cemetery I'm glad this calendar/ fund raising discussion has come round to the structure of the INPCRP. Some of us have been talking about this recently. While it would be nice to have money for cemetery projects, the structure needed for a 501c3 organization could be a burden and go against the grain of some of us independent minded preservationist. I do think that we need more structure than we have. We have made great strides this summer. Having Brad come on as webmaster & update the website has made a world of difference. When Lois resigned, she broke down the State Coordinators job description into 3 parts-webmaster- spokes person to do PR & work with the Legislature - list monitor. We need to think about where we want to go & what positions we need to get there .We have 2 new County coordinators, but most of the 92 counties are not covered. We need more visibility, that's what the t-shirts and requests for letters to legislators,and county prosecutors is about. Most of the state doesn't know we exist. Having some organization is helpful when we go to the Legislature. Education is needed in these areas: 1 cemetery care, maintenance, & repair guidelines for Township Trustees, Cemetery Associations & the people they hire. 2 preservation project guidelines for Boy Scout & Girl Scout Councils, schools ect. 3 cemetery visitation guides for libraries, & genealogy societies. 4 recording methods for County Recorders . 5 cemetery law for the general public Maybe we could joint venture some education material with the IN Township Association, IN Historical Society, Historic Landmarks Foundation, or DNR-DHPA. Other ideas I have heard: more workshops & work days more school projects like Rhonda Stoffer & Jessica Felix are doing work with the Ball State Landscape Architecture & Historic Preservation program meet with IN Prosecutors group create a Hall of Fame for restored cemeteries vandalism response info for cemeteries reunion for workshop people Scott talked about doing a book of restored cemeteries So what about any of this? Theresa ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== THIS IS A CEMETERY ----- "Lives are commemorated - deaths are recorded - families are reunited - memories are made tangible - and love is undisguised. This is a cemetery. "Communities accord respect, families bestow reverence, historians seek information and our heritage is thereby enriched. "Testimonies of devotion, pride and remembrance are carved in stone to pay warm tribute to accomplishments and to the life - not the death - of a loved one. The cemetery is homeland for family memorials that are a sustaining source of comfort to the living. "A cemetery is a history of people - a perpetual record of yesterday and sanctuary of peace and quiet today. A cemetery exists because every life is worth loving and remembering - always." --Author unknown -- Seen at a monument dealer in West Union, IA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== "Show me your cemeteries, and I will tell you what kind of people you have." Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790) ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== INPCRP State Coordinator: Brad Manzenberger < [email protected] > http://www.inpcrp.org