Okay, I am totally mystified. What has protesting the failure of the state to prosecute those responsible for the destruction of burial sites got to do with wanting to get together and repair vandalism have to do with one another ? How is one a SOLUTION, yet the other is not ? Handing out fliers of documented cases where the state has done nothing as a wake up call to those we elect, and anyone that happens to cross my path, is another issue altogether from repairing vandalism, which you may note, I have not one word of criticism for. Good luck in your endeavors there, and please let me and like minded individuals pursue our own. I don't know what you envisioned as a "protest", but picket signs, bullhorns, and angry people marching haven't been brought up, nor will they. Its too serious an issue for such nonsense. Maybe I need to substitute the word "rally" for the protection of burial sites instead of using protest. Lee Creed Greencastle

Why not do them in conjunction with each other? Since the legislature is not in session now and with it being a presidential election year, a protest, rally, whatever you call it will get little attention from the politicians in the statehouse and just as little from the media as a political issue. What I would suggest is using the repair of the vandalism in Greenlawn in Franklin, Hawk in Delaware Co. and other similar places to begin informing the public about the destruction of cemeteries in Indiana, be it through farming or vandalism or whatever. Right now this issue is more likely to get press as a human interest story than a crime/political story. After the elections and at the first of next year we could begin rally's at the statehouse which most certainly could be bolstered by having spent the previous six months educating and informing the people at the local level. The more people you educate, the more that will become involved on some level. Remember, all politics is local. I hate that pioneer cemeteries and politics are intertwined, but they are and to some extent we have to play the political game. I personally am more than willing to be involved with this on a political level. I love politics and have run for office in the past. Politically speaking, I think this needs to be run almost like a campaign for public office making calculated moves to achieve the desired results instead of just throwing something together solely out of frustration (not that that's what you are doing, Lee.) I see both repairing vandalism and protesting as solutions, or at least means to an end. Both can be used to our advantage but as I said, this is to some extent politics and to win the game you have to play it. I was under the impression that we are all like minded here in that we all want to see an end to the destruction of cemeteries no matter the source of the destruction. I have no problem at all in doing your own thing, but I also believe in strength in numbers, It's been said that one person can change the world. I tend to think that one person can get the ball rolling, but it really takes a group of dedicated people to institute real, meaningful change. Brad Manzenberger Franklin, IN -----Original Message----- From: Lee [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 4:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [INPCRP] What cemetery was hit last night? Okay, I am totally mystified. What has protesting the failure of the state to prosecute those responsible for the destruction of burial sites got to do with wanting to get together and repair vandalism have to do with one another ? How is one a SOLUTION, yet the other is not ? Handing out fliers of documented cases where the state has done nothing as a wake up call to those we elect, and anyone that happens to cross my path, is another issue altogether from repairing vandalism, which you may note, I have not one word of criticism for. Good luck in your endeavors there, and please let me and like minded individuals pursue our own. I don't know what you envisioned as a "protest", but picket signs, bullhorns, and angry people marching haven't been brought up, nor will they. Its too serious an issue for such nonsense. Maybe I need to substitute the word "rally" for the protection of burial sites instead of using protest. Lee Creed Greencastle ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== Scott Satterthwaite < [email protected] > is the INPCRP State Coordinator. Feel free to contact him directly regarding questions or comments you may have about the INPCRP.

Gee, Lee I sure did not mean it that way. So if I came across that way I apologize. Some people view protests/rallys as a bunch of people complaining and as negative. I thought if people saw us working hard trying fix damage done it would seem more positive. What I am mystified about is when Henry Co. and a few others tried to RALLY bodies to show support for cemetery legislation at the State House last July only a few showed up. Then for the next meeting, even fewer showed up. Still scratching my head on that one.......... Angela Tielking ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 4:47 AM Subject: Re: [INPCRP] What cemetery was hit last night? > > Okay, I am totally mystified. What has protesting the failure of the > state to prosecute those responsible for the destruction of burial sites > got to do with wanting to get together and repair vandalism have to do > with one another ? > How is one a SOLUTION, yet the other is > not ? > > Handing out fliers of documented cases > where the state has done nothing as a wake up call to those we elect, > and anyone that happens to cross my path, > is another issue altogether from repairing > vandalism, which you may note, I have not one word of criticism for. > Good luck in your endeavors there, and please let me and like minded > individuals pursue our own. I don't know what you envisioned as a > "protest", but picket signs, bullhorns, and angry people marching > haven't been brought up, nor will they. > Its too serious an issue for such nonsense. Maybe I need to substitute > the word "rally" for the protection of burial sites instead of using > protest. > > Lee Creed > Greencastle > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Scott Satterthwaite < [email protected] > is the INPCRP State Coordinator. Feel free to contact him directly regarding questions or comments you may have about the INPCRP. >