Yes, the monument of two veterans was toppled in one blow because my uncle Don Renno, U.S. Army Company E, 333d Infantry, 84th Infantry Division who was killed 9 Apr 1945 (Germany surrendered less that a month later on 7 May 1945) in Weetzen, Germany while advancing on Hanover, and his younger brother, my uncle Glenn, S1 U.S. Navy, are buried at the same monument. At least one other stone of a veteran was knocked over as I have a photo of it: http://www.renno.org/genealogy/Gravestones/Cemeteries/NewHavenIOOF/Vandalism /DSCN1062.JPG I believe I saw a couple more with military markings that I did not photograph. I will be stopping back to check on repair progress tomorrow and will find out more of what the New Haven P.D. said they were going to do and then visit the police station to let them know (politely of course) that somebody is following the investigation. It should be an interesting trip as I have dealt with them on a hit and run to my vehicle in their jurisdiction some fifteen years back, but that would be really getting off topic! Brad Renno -----Original Message----- From: Sue Silver [mailto:ssilver1951@jps.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 7:11 PM To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Fw: {not a subscriber} New Haven IOOF Cemetery Vandalism Were there any veterans monuments vandalized? You said your uncle died in World War II, and his stone was toppled/damaged? Why don't you get together with the trustees and the local veterans organizations and put out a reward for this [I can't print it]'s? Why did the police refuse to dust the stone for fingerprints? It's an ideal material, especially if there were any polished faces on the stones. I don't get it. WHY won't the POLICE pursue these acts for the abhorrent deeds they are?? Sue Silver California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Renno" <papabear@fwi.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 2:09 PM Subject: RE: [INPCRP] Fw: {not a subscriber} New Haven IOOF Cemetery Vandalism > I must correct myself, SIXTY Stones not One Hundred Sixty. I misread the > paper as I choked on my cereal and grabbed the camera and headed to the > cemetery. I thought my reporting error was trapped as I sent this message > from an email account different from the one I subscribed with and was > informed that it was not posted. I guess it was. I resubmitted under the > email I belive I signed up with so there will probably be a duplicate > message when it arrives, opps. > > Either way it must have been quite a project. In discussing the righting of > the stones with one of the trustees, who, as it turned out went to school > with my uncle Donald Renno (killed in WW2) and had his stone was upended, > said the stones in the photographs being righted weigh about 1000 pounds and > one stone that was turned weighted over 2000 pounds! He asked the police if > they were going to get prints from the stones and they said they would not. > > I am guessing of course, but I would think that it would take at least two > people to tip the 1000 pounders and several more to turn the really big one > I saw turned. Several rows had five to ten stones turned in a row. There > were no vehicle tracks so they were done by hand (or foot). I volunteered > to spend the afternoon helping to right the stones but was turned down as > they were worried about liability. > > Brad Renno > > -----Original Message----- > From: Debra Dougherty [mailto:djd434@rnetinc.net] > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:46 PM > To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Fw: {not a subscriber} New Haven IOOF Cemetery > Vandalism > > > One hundred sixty stones? > That's not a prank. That's a crime. > It is a crime, isn't it? > > One hundred sixty stones? > That was a huge task. > How long does that take? > How many breaks did they need? > Do they work that hard at their day jobs? > Or in school? > > One hundred sixty stones? > The enormity stuns me. > How many people does that take? > No footprints? > No fingerprints? > No witnesses? > No injuries? > > One hundred sixty stones? > I don't understand. > Where is the guidance? > The sense of right or wrong? > Are they troubled? > Or are they stupid? > > Who - EXACTLY - are the criminals? > What - EXACTLY - is the cost? > When - EXACTLY - will it end? > Where - EXACTLY - are the prosecutors? > > One of these days, somebody's "little angel" will manage to get themselves > seriously hurt or even killed pulling a stunt like this. And I can hear the > cries of the parents now..... > "WHY didn't somebody do something about this???!" > > One hundred sixty stones. > I don't understand. > > Debra Dougherty > Martinsville, IN > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lois Mauk" <loismauk@insightbb.com> > To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:36 AM > Subject: [INPCRP] Fw: {not a subscriber} New Haven IOOF Cemetery Vandalism > > > > Brad Renno's message (below) did not post to the group because he is not > > listed as a subscriber through that address. Brad, if you need help > > subscribing, just let me know. > > Lois > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brad Renno" <brad@renno.org> > > To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:55 AM > > Subject: {not a subscriber} New Haven IOOF Cemetery Vandalism > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Saturday night (3/16/2002) the New Haven IOOF Cemetery (Allen County, > > > Indiana) was attacked by vandals. Approxamately 160 granite stones > were > > > toppled. I visited the cemetery today (Tuesday, March 19, 2002 and > found > > > rescue efforts were well underway by the cemetery staff and trustees > > > (YEAH!). I also found that the stone of two of my uncles was one of > those > > > damaged. Fortunatly, the valdals chose only the newer stones and little > > > physical damage was done to the stones. Most damage was limited to > > > scratches and gouges to the stone when it fell onto its base. If they > had > > > done this to the stones from the 1850's it would have been much worse. > I > > > posted photos of the damage at > > > www.renno.org/genealogy/Gravestones/Cemeteries/NewHavenIOOF/page_01.htm. > > If > > > the link length is too much for your browser to handle or you have to > type > > > it in, there is a link on the home page of www.renno.org. > > > > > > Brad Renno > > > brad@renno.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > > This list is for discussion of topics related to the Indiana Pioneer > > Cemeteries Restoration Project only. > > > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Cemetery: (n) A marble orchard not to be taken for granite. > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > If you know of some good cemetery related links, send them to LoisMauk@usa.net. > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== If you know of some good cemetery related links, send them to LoisMauk@usa.net.
Local news articles on the incident: http://www.wpta.com/morenews/#2 http://www.msnbc.com/local/wkjg/M161070.asp http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/news/local/2891907.htm http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/news/2891010.htm -----Original Message----- From: Brad Renno [mailto:papabear@fwi.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:42 PM To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [INPCRP] Fw: {not a subscriber} New Haven IOOF Cemetery Vandalism Yes, the monument of two veterans was toppled in one blow because my uncle Don Renno, U.S. Army Company E, 333d Infantry, 84th Infantry Division who was killed 9 Apr 1945 (Germany surrendered less that a month later on 7 May 1945) in Weetzen, Germany while advancing on Hanover, and his younger brother, my uncle Glenn, S1 U.S. Navy, are buried at the same monument. At least one other stone of a veteran was knocked over as I have a photo of it: http://www.renno.org/genealogy/Gravestones/Cemeteries/NewHavenIOOF/Vandalism /DSCN1062.JPG I believe I saw a couple more with military markings that I did not photograph. I will be stopping back to check on repair progress tomorrow and will find out more of what the New Haven P.D. said they were going to do and then visit the police station to let them know (politely of course) that somebody is following the investigation. It should be an interesting trip as I have dealt with them on a hit and run to my vehicle in their jurisdiction some fifteen years back, but that would be really getting off topic! Brad Renno -----Original Message----- From: Sue Silver [mailto:ssilver1951@jps.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 7:11 PM To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Fw: {not a subscriber} New Haven IOOF Cemetery Vandalism Were there any veterans monuments vandalized? You said your uncle died in World War II, and his stone was toppled/damaged? Why don't you get together with the trustees and the local veterans organizations and put out a reward for this [I can't print it]'s? Why did the police refuse to dust the stone for fingerprints? It's an ideal material, especially if there were any polished faces on the stones. I don't get it. WHY won't the POLICE pursue these acts for the abhorrent deeds they are?? Sue Silver California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Renno" <papabear@fwi.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 2:09 PM Subject: RE: [INPCRP] Fw: {not a subscriber} New Haven IOOF Cemetery Vandalism > I must correct myself, SIXTY Stones not One Hundred Sixty. I misread the > paper as I choked on my cereal and grabbed the camera and headed to the > cemetery. I thought my reporting error was trapped as I sent this message > from an email account different from the one I subscribed with and was > informed that it was not posted. I guess it was. I resubmitted under the > email I belive I signed up with so there will probably be a duplicate > message when it arrives, opps. > > Either way it must have been quite a project. In discussing the righting of > the stones with one of the trustees, who, as it turned out went to school > with my uncle Donald Renno (killed in WW2) and had his stone was upended, > said the stones in the photographs being righted weigh about 1000 pounds and > one stone that was turned weighted over 2000 pounds! He asked the police if > they were going to get prints from the stones and they said they would not. > > I am guessing of course, but I would think that it would take at least two > people to tip the 1000 pounders and several more to turn the really big one > I saw turned. Several rows had five to ten stones turned in a row. There > were no vehicle tracks so they were done by hand (or foot). I volunteered > to spend the afternoon helping to right the stones but was turned down as > they were worried about liability. > > Brad Renno > > -----Original Message----- > From: Debra Dougherty [mailto:djd434@rnetinc.net] > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:46 PM > To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Fw: {not a subscriber} New Haven IOOF Cemetery > Vandalism > > > One hundred sixty stones? > That's not a prank. That's a crime. > It is a crime, isn't it? > > One hundred sixty stones? > That was a huge task. > How long does that take? > How many breaks did they need? > Do they work that hard at their day jobs? > Or in school? > > One hundred sixty stones? > The enormity stuns me. > How many people does that take? > No footprints? > No fingerprints? > No witnesses? > No injuries? > > One hundred sixty stones? > I don't understand. > Where is the guidance? > The sense of right or wrong? > Are they troubled? > Or are they stupid? > > Who - EXACTLY - are the criminals? > What - EXACTLY - is the cost? > When - EXACTLY - will it end? > Where - EXACTLY - are the prosecutors? > > One of these days, somebody's "little angel" will manage to get themselves > seriously hurt or even killed pulling a stunt like this. And I can hear the > cries of the parents now..... > "WHY didn't somebody do something about this???!" > > One hundred sixty stones. > I don't understand. > > Debra Dougherty > Martinsville, IN > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lois Mauk" <loismauk@insightbb.com> > To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:36 AM > Subject: [INPCRP] Fw: {not a subscriber} New Haven IOOF Cemetery Vandalism > > > > Brad Renno's message (below) did not post to the group because he is not > > listed as a subscriber through that address. Brad, if you need help > > subscribing, just let me know. > > Lois > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brad Renno" <brad@renno.org> > > To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:55 AM > > Subject: {not a subscriber} New Haven IOOF Cemetery Vandalism > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Saturday night (3/16/2002) the New Haven IOOF Cemetery (Allen County, > > > Indiana) was attacked by vandals. Approxamately 160 granite stones > were > > > toppled. I visited the cemetery today (Tuesday, March 19, 2002 and > found > > > rescue efforts were well underway by the cemetery staff and trustees > > > (YEAH!). I also found that the stone of two of my uncles was one of > those > > > damaged. Fortunatly, the valdals chose only the newer stones and little > > > physical damage was done to the stones. Most damage was limited to > > > scratches and gouges to the stone when it fell onto its base. If they > had > > > done this to the stones from the 1850's it would have been much worse. > I > > > posted photos of the damage at > > > www.renno.org/genealogy/Gravestones/Cemeteries/NewHavenIOOF/page_01.htm. > > If > > > the link length is too much for your browser to handle or you have to > type > > > it in, there is a link on the home page of www.renno.org. > > > > > > Brad Renno > > > brad@renno.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > > This list is for discussion of topics related to the Indiana Pioneer > > Cemeteries Restoration Project only. > > > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Cemetery: (n) A marble orchard not to be taken for granite. > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > If you know of some good cemetery related links, send them to LoisMauk@usa.net. > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== If you know of some good cemetery related links, send them to LoisMauk@usa.net. ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== Cemetery: (n) A marble orchard not to be taken for granite.