It's possible that the stones would not take a fingerprint. The surface has to be fairly smooth with no dust or other smudges on it to get a good print. I know on TV and in the movies it seems like they can fingerprint anything (and in some cases they MIGHT be able to lift prints from some pretty exotic places) but the equipment that would be needed would be fairly expensive and most local police departments wouldn't have access to that sort of thing. Even the FBI might not be able to do. A week or so ago on The District they talked about lifting a really good print off of a ball point pen that had been thrown into the trash and then into a dumpster that was full of really yucky garbage. The response to that should be "Yeah, right." When my garage was broken into, the police officer that came to take the report said that they wouldn't be able to get prints if even a little bit of dust was present. Joyce Haibe Brad Renno wrote: > I must correct myself, SIXTY Stones not One Hundred Sixty. I misread the > paper as I choked on my cereal and grabbed the camera and headed to the > cemetery. I thought my reporting error was trapped as I sent this message > from an email account different from the one I subscribed with and was > informed that it was not posted. I guess it was. I resubmitted under the > email I belive I signed up with so there will probably be a duplicate > message when it arrives, opps. > > Either way it must have been quite a project. In discussing the righting of > the stones with one of the trustees, who, as it turned out went to school > with my uncle Donald Renno (killed in WW2) and had his stone was upended, > said the stones in the photographs being righted weigh about 1000 pounds and > one stone that was turned weighted over 2000 pounds! He asked the police if > they were going to get prints from the stones and they said they would not. > > I am guessing of course, but I would think that it would take at least two > people to tip the 1000 pounders and several more to turn the really big one > I saw turned. Several rows had five to ten stones turned in a row. There > were no vehicle tracks so they were done by hand (or foot). I volunteered > to spend the afternoon helping to right the stones but was turned down as > they were worried about liability. > > Brad Renno > > -----Original Message----- > From: Debra Dougherty [mailto:djd434@rnetinc.net] > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:46 PM > To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Fw: {not a subscriber} New Haven IOOF Cemetery > Vandalism > > One hundred sixty stones? > That's not a prank. That's a crime. > It is a crime, isn't it? > > One hundred sixty stones? > That was a huge task. > How long does that take? > How many breaks did they need? > Do they work that hard at their day jobs? > Or in school? > > One hundred sixty stones? > The enormity stuns me. > How many people does that take? > No footprints? > No fingerprints? > No witnesses? > No injuries? > > One hundred sixty stones? > I don't understand. > Where is the guidance? > The sense of right or wrong? > Are they troubled? > Or are they stupid? > > Who - EXACTLY - are the criminals? > What - EXACTLY - is the cost? > When - EXACTLY - will it end? > Where - EXACTLY - are the prosecutors? > > One of these days, somebody's "little angel" will manage to get themselves > seriously hurt or even killed pulling a stunt like this. And I can hear the > cries of the parents now..... > "WHY didn't somebody do something about this???!" > > One hundred sixty stones. > I don't understand. > > Debra Dougherty > Martinsville, IN > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lois Mauk" <loismauk@insightbb.com> > To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:36 AM > Subject: [INPCRP] Fw: {not a subscriber} New Haven IOOF Cemetery Vandalism > > > Brad Renno's message (below) did not post to the group because he is not > > listed as a subscriber through that address. Brad, if you need help > > subscribing, just let me know. > > Lois > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brad Renno" <brad@renno.org> > > To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:55 AM > > Subject: {not a subscriber} New Haven IOOF Cemetery Vandalism > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Saturday night (3/16/2002) the New Haven IOOF Cemetery (Allen County, > > > Indiana) was attacked by vandals. Approxamately 160 granite stones > were > > > toppled. I visited the cemetery today (Tuesday, March 19, 2002 and > found > > > rescue efforts were well underway by the cemetery staff and trustees > > > (YEAH!). I also found that the stone of two of my uncles was one of > those > > > damaged. Fortunatly, the valdals chose only the newer stones and little > > > physical damage was done to the stones. Most damage was limited to > > > scratches and gouges to the stone when it fell onto its base. If they > had > > > done this to the stones from the 1850's it would have been much worse. > I > > > posted photos of the damage at > > > www.renno.org/genealogy/Gravestones/Cemeteries/NewHavenIOOF/page_01.htm. > > If > > > the link length is too much for your browser to handle or you have to > type > > > it in, there is a link on the home page of www.renno.org. > > > > > > Brad Renno > > > brad@renno.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > > This list is for discussion of topics related to the Indiana Pioneer > > Cemeteries Restoration Project only. > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Cemetery: (n) A marble orchard not to be taken for granite. > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > If you know of some good cemetery related links, send them to LoisMauk@usa.net.