----- Original Message ----- From: "Andi MacDonald" <andimac@oz.net> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com>; "WACemeteries" <wa-cemeteries-l@rootsweb.com>; "Grave-L" <Grave-L@yahoogroups.com> Cc: "Robinson, Jeanne" <ohca@integrity.com> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 1:30 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [INPCRP] Video's > Hello all, > > Several months ago I purchased the video Cryptic Clues in the Boneyard by > Sharon Debartolo Carmack just because I know the presenter (I know of her > through the Association of Professional Genealogists, and from taking > several of her conference courses, and I highly respect her). Overall the > video is very informative, however, I was bothered by several items in the > video which are incorrect. One of which is chalk. Chalk is HARMFUL to > stone. Jeanne Robinson of Oregon Historic Cemetery Alliance has a paper > which explains in detail why. Another is the types of cemeteries. The > types she listed are not the same as those previously espoused by cemetery > experts. There were a few other things in the video that bothered me but > I'd have to dig out my notes to be sure of what they are. > > This morning I saw an article on headstone cleaning by a writer who puts out > an e-zine on a variety of genealogical topics. This person is also a member > of Association for Professional Genealogists. When I read what she was > saying, I decided it was time to send an email to our APG-l maillist and > alert my associates there to sound cemetery/headstone conservation > techniques. Members of APG ascribe to sound genealogical standards just as > we cemeterians ascribe to sound conservation methods. I have already > received one response thanking me for specifying the things to NOT say as > well as the things TO say. > > The most valuable thing we can do as cemeterians is to ensure those who > present themselves as experts, truly are. Or, at the very least, we should > point out mistakes and ask that they be corrected (politely of course). > > More and more writers will be presenting articles on cemetery care, let's be > sure that as the information is released, it is correct. > > Andrea D. MacDonald "Andi" > andimac@oz.net > founder/president > Washington State Cemetery Association > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wapsgs/ > co-founder: Cemetery Conservation Alliance > member Association of Professional Genealogists > member Association for Gravestone Studies > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "G Tielking" <tielking@knightstown.net> > To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:25 PM > Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Video's > > > > I recently bought the tape and I enjoyed it. Since I am new at this > > "cemetery thing", I learned alot. > > Angela Tielking > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "William Spurlock" <wspurlock@savinggraves.com> > > To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:14 AM > > Subject: [INPCRP] Video's > > > > > > > Have any of you had the chance to see the "Cryptic Clues In The > Boneyard" > > video put out by Sharon DeBartolo Carmack? It's more focused on the > aspects > > of researching in cemeteries, rather than repair and restoiration efforts > > but it gives a good idea of what can be done in the idea of a possible > video > > series. > > > > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > > > This list is for discussion of topics related to the Indiana Pioneer > > > Cemeteries Restoration Project only. > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of > > "UNSUBSCRIBE" to INPCRP-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > > or to INPCRP-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com (for DIGEST version) > > > > > >

I've been in contact with Sharon Debartolo Carmack regarding the use of chalk as mentioned in the video and while it's too late to do anything for the video, she is changing her position for a forthcoming boook on cemetery research that should be out shortly. She is for the most part reprinting the position statement that I have on Saving Graves. She sent me the revised wording that will be included in the book and I saw no problems with it at all. I got the impression from talking with her that no one had pointed out to her the damage that chalk can cause so she was not aware and was going by what others had reccomended to her in the past. I did not get into the issues of cemetery types as I've seen several different groupings and to be honest, I'm not really sure which one is the correct one...or for that mater if any one really is. William Spurlock Saving Graves http://www.savinggraves.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Lois Mauk To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: Fw: Re: [INPCRP] Video's ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andi MacDonald" <andimac@oz.net> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com>; "WACemeteries" <wa-cemeteries-l@rootsweb.com>; "Grave-L" <Grave-L@yahoogroups.com> Cc: "Robinson, Jeanne" <ohca@integrity.com> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 1:30 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [INPCRP] Video's > Hello all, > > Several months ago I purchased the video Cryptic Clues in the Boneyard by > Sharon Debartolo Carmack just because I know the presenter (I know of her > through the Association of Professional Genealogists, and from taking > several of her conference courses, and I highly respect her). Overall the > video is very informative, however, I was bothered by several items in the > video which are incorrect. One of which is chalk. Chalk is HARMFUL to > stone. Jeanne Robinson of Oregon Historic Cemetery Alliance has a paper > which explains in detail why. Another is the types of cemeteries. The > types she listed are not the same as those previously espoused by cemetery > experts. There were a few other things in the video that bothered me but > I'd have to dig out my notes to be sure of what they are. > > This morning I saw an article on headstone cleaning by a writer who puts out > an e-zine on a variety of genealogical topics. This person is also a member > of Association for Professional Genealogists. When I read what she was > saying, I decided it was time to send an email to our APG-l maillist and > alert my associates there to sound cemetery/headstone conservation > techniques. Members of APG ascribe to sound genealogical standards just as > we cemeterians ascribe to sound conservation methods. I have already > received one response thanking me for specifying the things to NOT say as > well as the things TO say. > > The most valuable thing we can do as cemeterians is to ensure those who > present themselves as experts, truly are. Or, at the very least, we should > point out mistakes and ask that they be corrected (politely of course). > > More and more writers will be presenting articles on cemetery care, let's be > sure that as the information is released, it is correct. > > Andrea D. MacDonald "Andi" > andimac@oz.net > founder/president > Washington State Cemetery Association > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wapsgs/ > co-founder: Cemetery Conservation Alliance > member Association of Professional Genealogists > member Association for Gravestone Studies > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "G Tielking" <tielking@knightstown.net> > To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:25 PM > Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Video's > > > > I recently bought the tape and I enjoyed it. Since I am new at this > > "cemetery thing", I learned alot. > > Angela Tielking > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "William Spurlock" <wspurlock@savinggraves.com> > > To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:14 AM > > Subject: [INPCRP] Video's > > > > > > > Have any of you had the chance to see the "Cryptic Clues In The > Boneyard" > > video put out by Sharon DeBartolo Carmack? It's more focused on the > aspects > > of researching in cemeteries, rather than repair and restoiration efforts > > but it gives a good idea of what can be done in the idea of a possible > video > > series. > > > > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > > > This list is for discussion of topics related to the Indiana Pioneer > > > Cemeteries Restoration Project only. > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of > > "UNSUBSCRIBE" to INPCRP-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > > or to INPCRP-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com (for DIGEST version) > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know.