Hello everyone. Sure is slow on the list lately. Sending this page to look at for discussion. They have some interesting text. http://www.culture.gov.on.ca/english/culdiv/heritage/cemimpro.htm<http://www.culture.gov.on.ca/english/culdiv/heritage/cemimpro.htm> I'm not sure if they have updated this site or I just haven't read these pages before. This page tells of some different ways to handle the fragments that have been left over from the past. They have monument-embellished buildings, contiguous and freestanding walls, retaining walls with tombstones attached. Interesting ideas. I'm still struggling with the many fragments in our current project. Probably 1/2 are going to be a real challenge to finish or figure out how to display somehow. I really don't want to build 2 dozen bases for all these fragments. So many have sugared away from being in the burn pile and they continue to almost -melt away. So has anyone else built a wall for displays? L.A. ~Tippecanoe Co.

since i'm relatively new to this list, i don't know if this topic has been discussed here or not. has anyone read shannon applegate's "living among headstones?" i just finished it last night & found it very informative. ms. applegate inherited a pioneer cemetery in oregon 8 years ago, and the book is about her life since. very beautifully written. scot

John and list. The Epoxy addresses or links are all on the Toolbox page. I have added you comments John, I hope that was ok. I thought it made the epoxy choice much clear. I have not changed the information on these pages. It has just been repositioned a bit. And added a new backgrounds to match the new logo. There are still more pages to add and I'll do that later. Feel free to send a comment if you can't find something. Or if you would like to see something added as well. L.A. http://www.rootsweb.com/~inpcrp/repairtoolbox.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Walters" <graveyardgroomer@skyenet.net> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Stone Repair Epoxy. > Hello Ernie, > On the subject of epoxies, I found that if you stay with an epoxy that is > formulated for stone to stone bonding, you should feel safe. > As you know, the bonding of stones back together has a lot to do with the > condition of the break. A stone broken many years ago weathers, leaving you > with very little contact points. This may require a knife-grade epoxy. > Where as an Epoxy such as Mastico, is thin flowing and best used when plenty > of stone to stone contact is there. I use several types epoxy, depending on > the stones need. > The Barre Pak bonds well, yet it is gray in color and thick in content. > Better used when the break would be below ground. > GranQuartz (800-458-6222) has some excellent epoxies. Order catalogs from > BICKNELL, Miles Supply or any other company that deals with stone products. > WALT > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of > "UNSUBSCRIBE" to INPCRP-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > or to INPCRP-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com (for DIGEST version) > >

Hello Ernie, On the subject of epoxies, I found that if you stay with an epoxy that is formulated for stone to stone bonding, you should feel safe. As you know, the bonding of stones back together has a lot to do with the condition of the break. A stone broken many years ago weathers, leaving you with very little contact points. This may require a knife-grade epoxy. Where as an Epoxy such as Mastico, is thin flowing and best used when plenty of stone to stone contact is there. I use several types epoxy, depending on the stones need. The Barre Pak bonds well, yet it is gray in color and thick in content. Better used when the break would be below ground. GranQuartz (800-458-6222) has some excellent epoxies. Order catalogs from BICKNELL, Miles Supply or any other company that deals with stone products. WALT

Thanks, Walt. I could not find the on-line Hilgartner order form for Mastico and I am having a hard time contacting them, I have had no response from e-mails or the on-line form. The last batch of white Mastico Epoxy I got settled out in the bottom of the can and hardened, I think several had that problem. I was out of commission last year with the heart attack and bypass surgery and have been off all this summer with cancer surgery and treatments, pretty well everything I had has gone bad. I have a few little repairs to make and was thinking about trying a different brand name. At 05:21 PM 11/14/2005, you wrote: >Hello Ernie, > On the subject of epoxies, I found that if you stay with an epoxy that is >formulated for stone to stone bonding, you should feel safe. > As you know, the bonding of stones back together has a lot to do with the >condition of the break. A stone broken many years ago weathers, leaving you >with very little contact points. This may require a knife-grade epoxy. >Where as an Epoxy such as Mastico, is thin flowing and best used when plenty >of stone to stone contact is there. I use several types epoxy, depending on >the stones need. > The Barre Pak bonds well, yet it is gray in color and thick in content. >Better used when the break would be below ground. >GranQuartz (800-458-6222) has some excellent epoxies. Order catalogs from >BICKNELL, Miles Supply or any other company that deals with stone products. > WALT > > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of >"UNSUBSCRIBE" to INPCRP-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > or to INPCRP-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com (for DIGEST version)

Hello All, A while back someone had mentioned using an epoxy from Miles Supply to repair broken stones. On their website I found Barre Pak Epoxy, PC Bond Epoxy, K Bond Epoxy and several others for stone repairs. Can anyone give me information on these epoxies from Miles Supply, and make any recommendations on which one works best on marble? Ernie Info from: http://www.milessupply.com/index2.html

Cindy, Sorry for the delay in answering. I spent most of yesterday in Parke County, where we (trustees) cleaned 12 tombstones at Mt Olivet. We also moved peonies and irises to the fence row when they were crowding tombstones. Union is active; however, the Old Settler's section is in need. Eaton Cemetery does not appear to be active, but it probably is owned by the town of Eaton. I doubt if there are either trustees or a governing board, considering the condition it was in when I saw it. A bit of deed research might be needed to find out who owns it, or the Eaton Chamber of Commerce may be able to direct you to some one who knows. I understand your concern about which cemeteries to serve, though I don't have a potential fix. There are just so many of them that need help. The Old Settlers in Union Cemetery are among the earliest pioneers in Delaware Co. Should their tombstones become lichen-covered and unreadable just because a board of trustees was organized years later, and the current trustees are more into raising a fund for a new building than in maintaining tombstones? The original section was donated by the Studebaker family from their farm. It was the cemetery for the Mississinewa Brethren congregation. Mark Davis saw it some months back and agreed the Old Settlers section is in bad shape. Sharon At 08:34 PM 11/8/2005, you wrote: >Sharon, > >I'm not familiar with the Eaton cemetery, but Union is active isn't it? Do >you know if Eaton is? While several of our members do some work in the >'active' cemeteries, our group is limited to working in those that are >either trustee controlled or are on private property -- cemeteries without >governing boards. > >It's one aspect of the whole Pioneer Cemetery definition that just doesn't >make much sense to me. Many of the small cemeteries have less money >available to them than the Trustees/Counties do. Where a body is buried has >nothing to do with determining if the person was a Pioneer. > >Cindy W > > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 11/3/05 > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >Quote from William Gladstone (1809-1897), three-time Prime Minister of >England and Victorian contemporary of Benjamin Disraeli: > "Show me the manner in which a nation or community > cares for its dead and I will measure with mathematical > exactness the tender mercies of its people, their > respect for the laws of the land, and their loyalty > to high ideals."

Eaton's Union Cemetery has an active association. The old Eaton Cemetery where the most of the initial settlers of Union Township are buried is under the control of the Union Township Trustee, Mark Clauson so I am told by Union Cemetery employees. Mark Kreps Muncie, IN On 11/8/05, cklyons <cklyons@comcast.net> wrote: > > Sharon, > > I'm not familiar with the Eaton cemetery, but Union is active isn't it? Do > you know if Eaton is? While several of our members do some work in the > 'active' cemeteries, our group is limited to working in those that are > either trustee controlled or are on private property -- cemeteries without > governing boards. > > It's one aspect of the whole Pioneer Cemetery definition that just doesn't > make much sense to me. Many of the small cemeteries have less money > available to them than the Trustees/Counties do. Where a body is buried > has > nothing to do with determining if the person was a Pioneer. > > Cindy W > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 11/3/05 > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Quote from William Gladstone (1809-1897), three-time Prime Minister of > England and Victorian contemporary of Benjamin Disraeli: > "Show me the manner in which a nation or community > cares for its dead and I will measure with mathematical > exactness the tender mercies of its people, their > respect for the laws of the land, and their loyalty > to high ideals." > >

Sharon, I'm not familiar with the Eaton cemetery, but Union is active isn't it? Do you know if Eaton is? While several of our members do some work in the 'active' cemeteries, our group is limited to working in those that are either trustee controlled or are on private property -- cemeteries without governing boards. It's one aspect of the whole Pioneer Cemetery definition that just doesn't make much sense to me. Many of the small cemeteries have less money available to them than the Trustees/Counties do. Where a body is buried has nothing to do with determining if the person was a Pioneer. Cindy W -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 11/3/05

Hi.. It usually takes about 150-200 dollars per stone on average. Mark Original Message: ----------------- From: ejw13@ccrtc.com Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:09:54 -0500 To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [INPCRP] next year Good Morning: Is there anyone out there would like to work with the Tipton County Pioneer Cemetery Restoration Project next year? If you live in a close county maybe you would like to work and learn with us. We are loosing two of our good workers so that they can play next year. We normally work 1/2 days on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. Sometimes in the afternoons and sometimes in the mornings depending on the weather. You know, we don't have much shade in cemeteries. Anyone interested, please contact me and we will see what comes about. ejw13@ccrtc.com Joan Wray, Coordinator Tipton County --- --- ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== THIS IS A CEMETERY ----- "Lives are commemorated - deaths are recorded - families are reunited - memories are made tangible - and love is undisguised. This is a cemetery. "Communities accord respect, families bestow reverence, historians seek information and our heritage is thereby enriched. "Testimonies of devotion, pride and remembrance are carved in stone to pay warm tribute to accomplishments and to the life - not the death - of a loved one. The cemetery is homeland for family memorials that are a sustaining source of comfort to the living. "A cemetery is a history of people - a perpetual record of yesterday and sanctuary of peace and quiet today. A cemetery exists because every life is worth loving and remembering - always." --Author unknown -- Seen at a monument dealer in West Union, IA -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

Hello, How about two cemeteries in Union Twp? The old Eaton cemetery on the south side of that town was a disgrace last time I looked. There is lots to do there from clearing brush to re-setting and levelling stones. And the Old Settler's section of the Union Cemetery on SR 3 is rapidly deteriorating. I wonder if there are stones under the sod in that section, but I have not probed. I plan to stop by there Thursday. There are some stones equally as old in the neighboring section of the cemetery, which has an association. Gravestones that seem unreadable disappear from Union Cemetery. My aunt told me about this years ago, seeing tombstones leaning against the maintenance building. More recently a small stone for Sophronia Miller, my 3rd great grandmother disappeared. She was buried beside her son and his wife, and I have the photo to prove it. The small stone is no longer there. It was hard to read 15 years ago. I asked management about it and was told no stone had ever been there. They seem fairly firm in their position. Sharon Mills At 09:20 AM 11/7/2005, you wrote: >We had a nice turnout for the Rededication ceremony Sat. The Star/Press had >a nice write up in yesterday's paper. The Veteran's honor guard even had a >live Bugle player; it was quite moving. We also had several descendants in >attendance. > >http://www.thestarpress.com/articles/5/050034-9605-002.html > >We have now completed the three cemeteries in Center Township (city of >Muncie) and will be planning this winter on what township/cemetery to tackle >next. Anyone with ties to Delaware County -- now is the time to speak up; >we have over 60 from which to choose. >Cindy W > > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 11/3/05 > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >Quote from William Gladstone (1809-1897), three-time Prime Minister of >England and Victorian contemporary of Benjamin Disraeli: > "Show me the manner in which a nation or community > cares for its dead and I will measure with mathematical > exactness the tender mercies of its people, their > respect for the laws of the land, and their loyalty > to high ideals."

Good Morning: Is there anyone out there would like to work with the Tipton County Pioneer Cemetery Restoration Project next year? If you live in a close county maybe you would like to work and learn with us. We are loosing two of our good workers so that they can play next year. We normally work 1/2 days on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. Sometimes in the afternoons and sometimes in the mornings depending on the weather. You know, we don't have much shade in cemeteries. Anyone interested, please contact me and we will see what comes about. ejw13@ccrtc.com Joan Wray, Coordinator Tipton County --- ---

We had a nice turnout for the Rededication ceremony Sat. The Star/Press had a nice write up in yesterday's paper. The Veteran's honor guard even had a live Bugle player; it was quite moving. We also had several descendants in attendance. http://www.thestarpress.com/articles/5/050034-9605-002.html We have now completed the three cemeteries in Center Township (city of Muncie) and will be planning this winter on what township/cemetery to tackle next. Anyone with ties to Delaware County -- now is the time to speak up; we have over 60 from which to choose. Cindy W -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 11/3/05

----- Original Message ----- From: <nbdm@juno.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 2:21 PM Subject: Jack Briles > I am David Riley, Georgetown Township Trustee of Floyd County. I am in the process of helping a boy scout on his Eagle project restoring the Old Salem Church Cemetery. I have been unable to get Jack to return my calls or Emails. If someone can email me off the list at nbdm@juno.com or call me at 812-944-2304 and let me know if he is sick or otherwise unavailable I would appreciate it. > >

Yes, I found it very good. Devoted significant time to Mt. Auburn Cemetery outside of Boston. I've visited this cemetery & it's beautiful; they have a large endowment which must nice. -----Original Message----- From: Tewastar@aol.com [mailto:Tewastar@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:35 AM To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [INPCRP] PBS Cemetery Program Did anyone see the program? It aired here in NM, but I was on travel. Just curious to know...thanks from Marilynn in NM ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know.

The Evansville station, WNIN channel 9 shows it listed again for 9:00 p.m. Monday evening, and 7:00 p.m. Wednesday evening. I did not find it listed for WVUT ch. 22. At 08:28 AM 10/29/2005, you wrote: >HELLO ALL~~~ > >In the local paper here in ABQ, NM.....the show is scheduled for 7:00 pm >tonight [Sat] and 6:00 pm on Sunday on PBS...our local time is MST >[Mt. Standard >Time] aka RMT [Rocky Mt. Time] > >we do fall back tonight although AZ does not.... > >Marilynn in NM > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >Quote from William Gladstone (1809-1897), three-time Prime Minister >of England and Victorian contemporary of Benjamin Disraeli: > "Show me the manner in which a nation or community > cares for its dead and I will measure with mathematical > exactness the tender mercies of its people, their > respect for the laws of the land, and their loyalty > to high ideals."

HELLO ALL~~~ In the local paper here in ABQ, NM.....the show is scheduled for 7:00 pm tonight [Sat] and 6:00 pm on Sunday on PBS...our local time is MST [Mt. Standard Time] aka RMT [Rocky Mt. Time] we do fall back tonight although AZ does not.... Marilynn in NM

The Delaware County group has rescheduled the rededication ceremony of Carmichael Cemetery for Nov 5, 2005 at 2:00. The cemetery is located on the Northeast corner of North Walnut and 26th Street, Muncie. It will be a short program, about 1/2 hr. I thought the PBS special was very good -- for a documentary on the history of the 'Garden' cemetery. It is well worth the effort to drag out the VCR manual and figure out how to tape; I think the only repeat showing around here is at 2 or 3 am. How about the photos from Boston's Auburn cemetery after the Red Sox finally won a world series? Or the fact that NYC's Central Park is an effort to copy Auburn -- without the graves...there was a lot of interesting trivia. I'd love to see the guy do a documentary on the 'other' cemeteries. Cindy W -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/05

The program will re-air 3 more times on PBS IN20 10/28 2 a.m. 10/30 1 a.m. 10/30 4 a.m. I would suggest programing your vcr or tivo and watch it at a better time. Linda Gill Grove Researching: IN: Gill, Stout, Manor, Mann NYC: Callaghan, McAleer, McGregor, Coyle

The new look to the INPCRP web site is very nice. My compliments! Melody At 08:46 AM 10/27/2005, you wrote: >I thought it was present well too, I only saw half >the program. I know it will air again >this month sometime. They showed communities >really enjoying the history and grounds. >And how important it was to share that history in >their communities. > >Now on a different note. I have updated a few >webpages this morning. >We have had a new logo donated to us, with no >restrictions. I love it and >it reads much better. I'll try to work on a >page that show the different sizes soon so all the >County Coordinators can capture the Logo.gif file >and you all can update your WebPages. > >Not much of the text changed on these pages, but >the backgrounds and >text colors. And I will continue to work on >these, little by little. >There are still probably over 50 pages still not >connected and this will take >time. I am open to hear your thoughts on any >page you think needs additions >or corrections as well. > >This is your site too. > >Lou Ann >http://www.rootsweb.com/~inpcrp/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ernie & Connie Lasley" ><elasley@sigecom.net> >To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 8:21 AM >Subject: Re: [INPCRP] PBS Cemetery Program > > > > I thought it was an interesting program, and >promoted cemeteries in a > > positive way. I learned a few things, like the >use of the word > > "cemetery". I have seen old deeds and >references that called them > > "grave yards" and "family burying grounds", but >did not know that the > > word "cemetery" did not come into use till 1831 >when Mount Auburn > > Cemetery in Cambridge Massachusetts was founded >as America's first > > landscaped or garden cemetery. > > > > > > At 06:34 AM 10/27/2005, you wrote: > > >Did anyone see the program? It aired here in >NM, but I was on travel. > > >Just curious to know...thanks from Marilynn in >NM > > > > > > > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > > >Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what >we will never know. > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > > This list is for discussion of topics related to >the Indiana Pioneer > > Cemeteries Restoration Project only. > > Please do not send genealogical queries through >this list. The surname and geographic Mailing >Lists on Rootsweb at http://lists.rootsweb.com are >a better venue. > > Thank you. > > > > > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >"Show me your cemeteries, and I will tell you what kind of people you have." > Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790)