Jack, Sure, that would be great and thank you. I will be back down in your neck of the woods next week to mark the locations of graves on the McCulloch cemetery. We surveyed it back during the winter, and then had a delay before completion due to GPR equipment damage during heavy rains. Walker McCulloch came out and visited us while we were shooting site surface features, and he was thankful and appreciative of your efforts and that you were able to locate the last broken base stone. Incidentally, our GPR technician recorded quite a few graves at the McCulloch; more than we anticipated. Feel free to e-mail me offline if you'd like to discuss this one further. Best Regards, Rich Green Historic Archaeological Research 4338 Hadley Court West Lafayette, IN 47906 Office: (765) 464-8735 Mobile: (765) 427-4082 www.har-indy.com Rich, At the May meeting of the Floyd Co. Plan commission, if the question arises about the Development with the cemetery, would you like for me to mention you and your CO. I don't know what will happen when it comes up. It was not brought up at the April meeting. The cemetery is going to be a surprise. We know about where it is, but there are no stones. Jack Briles ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== This list is for discussion of topics related to the Indiana Pioneer Cemeteries Restoration Project only. Please do not send genealogical queries through this list. The surname and geographic Mailing Lists on Rootsweb at http://lists.rootsweb.com are a better venue. Thank you.
In a message dated 4/10/06 8:06:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bvirginia76@earthlink.net writes: > Jack, > > Thank you for this history lesson on Lafayette Twp. Very interesting. > > Virginia Morris Brown > Virginia, and the List and all involved, I believe at one time or another we have all been on the tail end of something we would like to have not made public. Well, this is one of those times I was apparently taken in. There is absolutely no connection between the Mc Cutchan cemetery and the Indian Burial Ground. In a way I was the victim of a very long running unverified story about the Indian Burial Ground in Section 1 of Lafayette Twp, lasting from 1882 until April 2006. There was never a Burial site in Section 1 as indicated by the location. The gentleman who wrote the story on Floyd Co. was from Newark, Ohio, and if he was ever here, he probably had never been to this type of environment. It may be true in another section, but not this one. I want to clear this up with everyone that there is a Development going in, but no Native American Burials are involved, knowingly at this time. We still need to use Ground Penetrating Radar to Check for Burials where Mrs Fenwick said they were when she was a little Girl . A cemetery is still missing and subject to Development. I remember the Dime Novels that were printed (Before I was Born) like the Westerns. The writer embellished on the story to make it more interesting so they would sell back east. I was told the Burial Ground was near Indian Creek. Well, as far as I can determine after 6-7 hours a day for a week in the Recorders Office looking for deeds for Alexander McCutchan and not finding them where they should be in Section 1, I finally give up today. I found 2 but so far they are in another Section not scheduled for Development at this time. I have not stopped searching for a Native American Burial Ground, only the hurry up has slowed down. I am still pushing for a serious check for the Elusive McCutchan Cemetery. If I have unnecessarily disturbed anyone I'm sorry, but I was disturbed because time was running out. As I said, I am still looking for the Native-American site. I believe it is out there somewhere. If so, Ill find it in the next Section.!!! SORRY. Jack E. Briles Sr. jackbriles@aol.com PO Box 444 New Albany, In 4 7151-0444 (812)282-6585
In a message dated 4/12/06 5:37:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rgreen@insightbb.com writes: > While I'm mentioning web site updates, please feel free to check the HAR > pages in the next few weeks as it is my intention to place online some > Ground Penetrating Radar images depicting unmarked 19th century graves: > > Rich, At the May meeting of the Floyd Co. Plan commission, if the question arises about the Development with the cemetery, would you like for me to mention you and your CO. I don't know what will happen when it comes up. It was not brought up at the April meeting. The cemetery is going to be a surprise. We know about where it is, but there are no stones. Jack Briles
----- Original Message ----- From: Rich Green To: INPCRP Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:04 PM Subject: Granville Cemetery Update Hello the list, A few people have written off-list wondering about the status of the Granville cemetery. We have been very busy around here this week and have not had time to follow up on this any further. I did say I would be a squeaky wheel on this one, but these sort of things do take time to get sorted out so I haven't followed up. I'm sorry to report that I haven't heard much yet. Someone suggested pointing the local media to the photos online, but I didn't do this myself and I haven't seen anything in the papers yet. LA Clugh allowed as how she thought that there may be plans by the DNR to rebury the human remains. I will post updates if there are any forthcoming: http://www.har-indy.com/granville_cemetery.html While I'm mentioning web site updates, please feel free to check the HAR pages in the next few weeks as it is my intention to place online some Ground Penetrating Radar images depicting unmarked 19th century graves: http://www.har-indy.com/ Regards to all, Rich Green Historic Archaeological Research 4338 Hadley Court West Lafayette, IN 47906 Office: (765) 464-8735 Mobile: (765) 427-4082 www.har-indy.com
first message rec'd today was this one that just arrived Marilynn in NM
Say, I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced a delay in posts today? I sent a message to the list about three hours ago and it still hasn't posted? Guess no one will see this if the system has problems, but I thought I'd try in case it was an isolated incident. Regards, Rich Green Historic Archaeological Research 4338 Hadley Court West Lafayette, IN 47906 Office: (765) 464-8735 Mobile: (765) 427-4082 www.har-indy.com
Jack, Thank you for this history lesson on Lafayette Twp. Very interesting. Virginia Morris Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jackbriles@aol.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 12:27 PM Subject: [INPCRP] McCutchan Cem & Indian Burial Grnd > Jeannie, > We not only have a standard cemetery destroyed, but also the McCutchans > around 1806 moved into Lafayette Twp. They were From Ireland. There was quite > a large group with Father and sons. They all naturally settled beside running > water, which was to be called Big Indian Creek. > To simplify things, I am including a couple of pages out of our local > history written in 1882. It is called History of the Ohio Falls Counties. The > ones especially of importance is pg. 306 and 307. This tells about a 1 Acre > Indian (Native American) Burial Ground. This is the one that Mrs. Fenwick > mentioned that was destroyed. It seems as though History says that Alexander > McCutchan built his house directly in the middle of it and then proceeded to plow up > all of the ground on his property, including the Burial Ground. The Indians > buried their dead in slight mounds. There were reportedly quite a few of them. > Around 1812 with the White people moving in the Indians began to move > on. Occasional, acording to the History book, they would come by the Burial > Grounds. There is a Treaty Line visible on the Map which divided up the land. It > ran slightly So. of the Town of Later Galena and ran in a straight line > slightly outside the limits No. of Greenville. Later in the early 1800's a road was > used that traveled thru the end of the Burial Ground. Later when they put a > bridge up, the road was realigned to the right and by passed it and continued on > to what became Scottsville. > I have an 1859 map of the area and the McCutchans and the Atkins > (Gideon and his kin lived near the creek.) The Scots founded Scottsville Less > than a mile East. Along the creek all kind of game was prevalent and the > Indians thrived until whites began to move in. The Indians moved on North west to be > more in line with the Buffalo. > Our problem now is Robert Lynn, A local Developer is Planning a > Subdivision on this exact area. It was set back to May from April because of a > problem with some type of drainage. I saw an overlay over an Ariel map and I am > convinced that the Developer will find human remains, either from later Burials > on the Property where the older people remember it, or he will find Native > American Remains or Relics. > The Indians were known to be quite frequent between the Ohio River > and Big and Little Indian creeks. They often crossed at the falls of the Ohio > hunting. This is a situation that I believe needs Immediate attention before the > Developement begins, even if it delays it for a short time. The site should > be checked out thoroughly. To completely ignore it could be quite serious. > I don't have much say about any Developments in the County, unless > there is a visible Cemetery. I have spent this week trying to find a deed, but I > have had no luck. But I was tipped off about the Local History book in the > Indiana Library Room in the New Albany-Floyd Co. Library. I lucked out and found > reference to what I was Looking for. I hope something can be done not to > disturb any possible remains. I know it will be tough. The farmers used to remove > the stones and use the ground. The old out of sight, out of mind. I hope the > DNR and there DHPA give this matter the proper attention it deserves. It > definately is worth looking into, > > Thank you very much for your efforts, > > Sincerely > Jack E. Briles Sr. > jackbriles@aol.com > PO Box 444 > New Albany, In. 47151-0444 > (812)282-6585 > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > "Show me your cemeteries, and I will tell you what kind of people you have." > Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790) > > -- ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 553 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!
Jack, You have my support in your efforts. It is sad that so much development is ruining the pioneer and Indian sites. Once gone, they are never coming back! You are surely earning stars in your crown for your work! I wonder what will happen to the Morris Cemetery in Greenville if someone else buys that property? Virginia Morris Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jackbriles@aol.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [INPCRP] McCutchan Cem & Indian Burial Grnd > In a message dated 4/9/06 6:46:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Tewastar@aol.com > writes: > > > > do I understand correctly that a developer is ignoring NAGRPA??? > > > > thanks~~~~ > > > > Marilynn in NM > > > > Marilyn, First to someone not versed in many things pertaining to Native > Americans, what is the " NAGRPA" > Now, I just verified this fact last week. We knew a cemetery with > stones had been destroyed. But I had only heard rumors about the Native American > Burial Ground. Finally as of Friday night 10 minutes after the Library Local > History room closed, I walked out with a page from a book of The Histories of > The Ohio Falls Counties , 1882 pg 306 that verified what I had believed all > along. A house had been built in the middle of the Burial Ground Mounds in > Section 1 of Lafayette Township. I know there are places along all of the Creeks > around here up in the hills where there could be more. > The Creeks running thru Floyd County are even Called Big Indian > Creek, and Little Indian Creek. They lived all over this county, Hi country > and Low. But since we don't know about places like this, it is very hard to get > to them before the Developers do. When Caesar's Gambling Boat went in to the > Ohio River at the mouth of a creek, they had to do an Archeological dig for a > year removing Indian Artifacts. Now at my age, Cemeteries and Burial Sites > are my only purpose left in my life. Try To Protect what we have left of our > Burial Sites. This is a small county and it is Developing faster than I can drive > from one side to the other almost. Tewstar, if you have any ideas, I would > appreciate them, and if nothing else e-mail me a whole lot of Moral Support. > > Jack E. Briles Sr. > jackbriles@aol.com > PO Box 444 > New Albany, In. 47151-0444 > (812)282-6585 > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Quote from William Gladstone (1809-1897), three-time Prime Minister of England and Victorian contemporary of Benjamin Disraeli: > "Show me the manner in which a nation or community > cares for its dead and I will measure with mathematical > exactness the tender mercies of its people, their > respect for the laws of the land, and their loyalty > to high ideals." > > -- ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 553 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!
In a message dated 4/9/06 6:46:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Tewastar@aol.com writes: > do I understand correctly that a developer is ignoring NAGRPA??? > > thanks~~~~ > > Marilynn in NM > Marilyn, First to someone not versed in many things pertaining to Native Americans, what is the " NAGRPA" Now, I just verified this fact last week. We knew a cemetery with stones had been destroyed. But I had only heard rumors about the Native American Burial Ground. Finally as of Friday night 10 minutes after the Library Local History room closed, I walked out with a page from a book of The Histories of The Ohio Falls Counties , 1882 pg 306 that verified what I had believed all along. A house had been built in the middle of the Burial Ground Mounds in Section 1 of Lafayette Township. I know there are places along all of the Creeks around here up in the hills where there could be more. The Creeks running thru Floyd County are even Called Big Indian Creek, and Little Indian Creek. They lived all over this county, Hi country and Low. But since we don't know about places like this, it is very hard to get to them before the Developers do. When Caesar's Gambling Boat went in to the Ohio River at the mouth of a creek, they had to do an Archeological dig for a year removing Indian Artifacts. Now at my age, Cemeteries and Burial Sites are my only purpose left in my life. Try To Protect what we have left of our Burial Sites. This is a small county and it is Developing faster than I can drive from one side to the other almost. Tewstar, if you have any ideas, I would appreciate them, and if nothing else e-mail me a whole lot of Moral Support. Jack E. Briles Sr. jackbriles@aol.com PO Box 444 New Albany, In. 47151-0444 (812)282-6585
do I understand correctly that a developer is ignoring NAGRPA??? thanks~~~~ Marilynn in NM
Jeannie, We not only have a standard cemetery destroyed, but also the McCutchans around 1806 moved into Lafayette Twp. They were From Ireland. There was quite a large group with Father and sons. They all naturally settled beside running water, which was to be called Big Indian Creek. To simplify things, I am including a couple of pages out of our local history written in 1882. It is called History of the Ohio Falls Counties. The ones especially of importance is pg. 306 and 307. This tells about a 1 Acre Indian (Native American) Burial Ground. This is the one that Mrs. Fenwick mentioned that was destroyed. It seems as though History says that Alexander McCutchan built his house directly in the middle of it and then proceeded to plow up all of the ground on his property, including the Burial Ground. The Indians buried their dead in slight mounds. There were reportedly quite a few of them. Around 1812 with the White people moving in the Indians began to move on. Occasional, acording to the History book, they would come by the Burial Grounds. There is a Treaty Line visible on the Map which divided up the land. It ran slightly So. of the Town of Later Galena and ran in a straight line slightly outside the limits No. of Greenville. Later in the early 1800's a road was used that traveled thru the end of the Burial Ground. Later when they put a bridge up, the road was realigned to the right and by passed it and continued on to what became Scottsville. I have an 1859 map of the area and the McCutchans and the Atkins (Gideon and his kin lived near the creek.) The Scots founded Scottsville Less than a mile East. Along the creek all kind of game was prevalent and the Indians thrived until whites began to move in. The Indians moved on North west to be more in line with the Buffalo. Our problem now is Robert Lynn, A local Developer is Planning a Subdivision on this exact area. It was set back to May from April because of a problem with some type of drainage. I saw an overlay over an Ariel map and I am convinced that the Developer will find human remains, either from later Burials on the Property where the older people remember it, or he will find Native American Remains or Relics. The Indians were known to be quite frequent between the Ohio River and Big and Little Indian creeks. They often crossed at the falls of the Ohio hunting. This is a situation that I believe needs Immediate attention before the Developement begins, even if it delays it for a short time. The site should be checked out thoroughly. To completely ignore it could be quite serious. I don't have much say about any Developments in the County, unless there is a visible Cemetery. I have spent this week trying to find a deed, but I have had no luck. But I was tipped off about the Local History book in the Indiana Library Room in the New Albany-Floyd Co. Library. I lucked out and found reference to what I was Looking for. I hope something can be done not to disturb any possible remains. I know it will be tough. The farmers used to remove the stones and use the ground. The old out of sight, out of mind. I hope the DNR and there DHPA give this matter the proper attention it deserves. It definately is worth looking into, Thank you very much for your efforts, Sincerely Jack E. Briles Sr. jackbriles@aol.com PO Box 444 New Albany, In. 47151-0444 (812)282-6585
Try United Way this April for their "Day of Caring". They ask for student volunteers from area schools, this is free and the students usually have a nice time. You can get a lot of debri picked from winter for free. Also, ask your trustee if they have people on township assistance that can do workfare in your cemeteries. I do this a lot during the spring, summer and fall. Linda Gill Grove Researching: IN: Gill, Manor, Stout, Mann NYC: Callaghan, McAleer, McGregor, Joyce
This is usually about $60 an hour. Linda Gill Grove Researching: IN: Gill, Manor, Stout, Mann NYC: Callaghan, McAleer, McGregor, Joyce
Another suggestion for help with just the cleanup and brush removal is the Scouts. Get hold of the Scout Master uo there and see if there are any Troops that would want to help. They have been a great help in Allen County at the Hatfield cemetery, taking it on as a bi-annual project. Brian E. Smead Terre Haute, Indiana -----Original Message----- From: KidClerk@aol.com [mailto:KidClerk@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 10:02 AM To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Kosciusko County McNeil Cemetery Rebecca: One suggestion might be to solicit the help of the probation department and/or sheriff's department to get help from individuals with hours to work off for community service. As long as they are supervised, this can be a tremendous help. In the past the Henry Co. sheriff's department has brought trusty inmates out to the Messick Cemetery to do this work. A deputy or corrections officer is present at all times. You can get a lot of work done in a small amount of time with help such as this. Hopefully the landowner will accept this type of assistance. Kyle D. Conrad Brook, IN ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know.
Rebecca: One suggestion might be to solicit the help of the probation department and/or sheriff's department to get help from individuals with hours to work off for community service. As long as they are supervised, this can be a tremendous help. In the past the Henry Co. sheriff's department has brought trusty inmates out to the Messick Cemetery to do this work. A deputy or corrections officer is present at all times. You can get a lot of work done in a small amount of time with help such as this. Hopefully the landowner will accept this type of assistance. Kyle D. Conrad Brook, IN
Hi all, it's been a long time since I've posted to this list. I was at one time the county coordinator for Elkhart and LaGrange counties, but record of that was lost when the new site was built. On to the point... I was recently searching for an ancestor of my husband, James Finton, who was born in 1794. I ran across a small bit on Google that said he was buried in Washington Twp. in "McNeil Cemetery", but the page that it linked to no longer existed and wasn't cached by Google either. So my father and I set out with GPS to locate this cemetery, searching for several days in Washington Twp. to no avail. Of course, we then started knocking on doors, feeling rather determined. We knew the cemetery had been surveyed by Lester Binnie in the 70's and he recorded that James Finton was buried there. We asked three people, each who sent us to a neighbor's door for more specific directions, until we came to the right place. The cemetery is located on private property and set back in the woods half a mile. The landowner was a very nice gentleman who explained a little bit about it, took us back and allowed us to explore on our own. At one point a previous owner had pulled out the stones to make a sidewalk ( ! ) but was required to put them back when word got out. He just propped them against trees. I have never in my life seen a cemetery overtaken by nature like this one is. It has become what appears to be a raspberry (?) patch and is a chaotic mess, which left us unable to tell which tombstones we had already looked at and which we had not. Honestly, words cannot describe, so hopefully you will be able to view these pictures: From just a few yards away you can't tell that it IS a cemetery http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/Hawthornefae/CopyofIMG_7621.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/Hawthornefae/2c7dfe9c.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/Hawthornefae/e9acc581.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/Hawthornefae/a04de049.jpg It was as if the vines and briars were what held the tombstones in place http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/Hawthornefae/5f8dfb8c.jpg The stones that aren't broken are in excellent condition and quite legible http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/Hawthornefae/IMG_7618.jpg It was described repeatedly as a Civil War cemetery and many of the burials are young men. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/Hawthornefae/93963080.jpg At one point a fence must have surrounded the cemetery http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/Hawthornefae/IMG_7688.jpg _____________________________________________________________________________ I have personal permission to come back and work on it and to bring trusted volunteers. I was very pleased with the attitude of the owner, who wants to be sure that he is present when workers are there and be involved every step of the way. He feels a moral obligation to take care of it, but it really is quite a diaster and too much for him to keep up with. The raspberries need to be cut down to about knee height and then pulled out by the roots or they will continue to come back (he has only attempted to mow them down, but couldn't really do that because of the tombstones). It will be a huge task. I guess I'm looking for some advice on what to do here. There are multiple broken stones that need to be repaired, but I do not have the expertise to do so. There also appear to be no coordinators in the counties surrounding Kosciusko. Someone suggested bringing in the Lion's Club, but I'm not sure that I'm comfortable with that idea. If anyone is nearby and interested in helping out, please contact me at this email address. Thank you so much for taking the time to read. Rebecca Akens Goshen, Indiana
In a message dated 4/8/06 5:19:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, john_boggess@msn.com writes: > Can't help but wonder if this change was made because of problems like > those > being discussed here (egos, property ownership, etc.)? > > John Boggess > Tippecanoe Co. > John, Generally in the southern part of Indiana Surnames are mostly used on cemeteries that were Deeded by an Individual, or family on their property. If there are others buried there they were buried there with the landowners permission, or by invitation. Most other cemeteries around here have the name of a Church that was there at one time (maybe gone now) that were the owners of the cemeteries. This is more often than not the case. Since most of our cemeteries were deeded on private property by the owner, when we located some that were lost for 75-100 years, we used the deed to name the cemetery properly to avoid any ill will about the true name. Jack Briles
When researching some family cemeteries, I was surprised to learn that cemeteries in Iowa were not allowed to use family surnames as the cemetery name after about 1945. So, what was used to be "Schwenneker Cemetery" is now (officially) called "Pleasant Hill Cemetery." (I should point out that Schwenneker is a "modern" cemetery, with the first burials not starting until the 1870's, so I am not sure whether pioneer cemeteries in Iowa were exempted. I have not been able to find the statute yet to check.) Can't help but wonder if this change was made because of problems like those being discussed here (egos, property ownership, etc.)? John Boggess Tippecanoe Co. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela" <atielking@insightbb.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:33 PM Subject: [INPCRP] Renaming a cemetery > Ernie wrote: "Since his family has owned the land for 125 years, can he > rename the cemetery and declare it as his final resting place? There is > no > official law on naming a cemetery. Unfortunately, people rename them to > suit their needs." > > > > Ernie, > > A family tried to rename a pioneer cemetery in Hancock Co. after they > decided they wanted to be buried in it (and were allowed to do so). It > caused a big stink with Arnett family descendants - Arnett being the > original name of the cemetery. It was finally agreed upon that the > cemetery > will finally be known as The Arnett-Lowder Cemetery. I hate it when people > decide to change history to fit their egos. > > > > Have you looked at the old plat maps/atlases that show the cemetery and > the > cemetery's name? If you show them PROOF of the cemetery's real name, it > should stay the same. You also might want to mention that it will be > difficult for genealogists, family members and descendants to find the > cemetery if the cemetery's name is changed; and ask the questions "What > right does this gentleman have to rename a cemetery just because his > family > owned the ground where the cemetery is located? What right does he have to > change history?" > > > > Good luck! I would like to know how this works out. > > Angela Tielking > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of > "UNSUBSCRIBE" to INPCRP-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > or to INPCRP-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com (for DIGEST version) > >
NOTARIZED STATEMENTS~~~ unless the elderly have a diagnosis of dementia......their sworn statements along with yours are legally binding documents...stick to the facts who what where when why they know. how they know I am for some media attention about greedy developers....... Marilynn in NM
Hi Jack, Yes, I do remember the discussion here on the list...must have been 4 or 5 years ago? It seems that there are quite a few of these prairie reserves around the state. I would hope that some of them are being managed well, and that the native grasses, wild flowers, and of course the cemetery monuments and other features are being closely monitored by the scientists who established and continue this experimental preseervation. This isn't the case here at Granville as it wasn't at St. John's. The prairie grasses aren't flourishing, but diminishing. The monuments are more rapidly deteriorating than they otherwise would if the cemetery were kept up. And finally, the remains of the people who are buried here aren't safe either. None of the conditions under which this nature preserve was initially created are being met and the status quo isn't beneficial to anyone. I can't think of a single reason why the burning should continue at Granville? If someone can make the case, I'm sure we'd all like to hear it? Thanks for writing Jack, Rich Green Historic Archaeological Research 4338 Hadley Court West Lafayette, IN 47906 Office: (765) 464-8735 Mobile: (765) 427-4082 www.har-indy.com Rich, If you remember St Johns Cemetery in Morgan Twp. in Harrison Co, it was burned regularly. It DID DAMAGE THE STONES. It was burned by the Nature Preserve. I was told by several on the List that I could not change their practice of Burning Well, I persevered and they finally relented and I met with 2 representatives of the Nature preserve (The sign said; A Division of the DNR.) I met with them and the Twp. Trustee. We finally agreed to Remove a Large wooden State Park type 3 x 8 ft. sign and put up a small 12 inch X 20 inch sign like a Picture I had with me from up North somewhere. The Burning was stopped and the Trustee mows the cemetery November 1 each year. I know that is not what I would like to have accomplished, but it was a Hell of a lot better treatment than the cemetery had before I complained. This had been going on since 1980 when the earlier lazy Trustee would not mow it, so the Nature Preserve came in and took over and said it was part of the earlier Prairie like my Grandfather saw when he lived there. No he didn't, he tried to kill every weed he could so his crops would grow. It seems like the DNR is more concerned with the weeds than the cemeteries.You have to keep after them, or they figure you will give up and they can keep up the same old stuff. Good Luck to all on the Granville Cemetery, IM with you for what ever that is worth. Jack E. Briles Sr. jackbriles@aol.com New Albany, In.