Rich, your test worked ! Do I win a prize ? What have you been up to lately ? Lee Creed

Seems to be working Rich, except the date & time! I received your e-mail this evening the 23rd, the date says you mailed it the morning of the 20th? At 06:43 AM 05/20/2006, you wrote: >Hello the list, > >Just wanted to test and see if Insightbb.com is back registered with >Rootsweb.com We have been experiencing DNS problems with many other >domains and have been unable to post lately. > >Rich Green >Historic Archaeological Research >4338 Hadley Court >West Lafayette, IN 47906 >Office: (765) 464-8735 >Mobile: (765) 427-4082 >www.har-indy.com > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know.

ANOTHER PIONEER GONE...BOB > Published at http://www.indystar.com. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Bush, Scott Bradley May 21, 2006 Scott Bradley Bush 29, of Beech Grove, passed away May 19, 2006 after a long battle with cancer. He was born May 8, 1977 in Beech Grove. He attended Roncalli High School and the University of Indianapolis. Scott was a member of St. Mark Catholic Church. Survivors include his parents, Penny G. Bush and Ralph Bradley Bush; his sister, Alican (Dennis) Parmley; two brothers, Joshua D. (Rachel) Bush and Ben Bush; his grandparents, Ann Middleton and Boyd Middleton; numerous aunts, uncles and cousins, including his beloved Karli and Hannah, who knew him as "Unkie." A funeral Mass will be conducted at 2:00 p.m. on Monday, May 22 at St. Mark Catholic Church. Visitation will be from 1:00 p.m. until the time of the service on Monday at the Church. Burial will be at Calvary Cemetery. Funeral arrangements have been entrusted to G.H. Herrmann Madison Ave. Funeral Home, 5141 Madison Ave.

Helen, I am sorry to inforrm you that Scott passed away on Friday from comlications from his condition. Penny Bush (Mother) Scott Bush was a contributer on the list, and cared very deeply about the cemeteries in Morgan Co. He lived in Beech Grove. Helen

Hello the list, Just wanted to test and see if Insightbb.com is back registered with Rootsweb.com We have been experiencing DNS problems with many other domains and have been unable to post lately. Rich Green Historic Archaeological Research 4338 Hadley Court West Lafayette, IN 47906 Office: (765) 464-8735 Mobile: (765) 427-4082 www.har-indy.com

SCOT, We have found the more trees the less vandalism also. Knowing this I personally have chosen to harvest the oldest trees and remove younger trees that cannot grow properly under the umbrella of the larger trees. Having experience in forest management has been a benefit. Dress out damaged trees and consider tree removal to benefit the growth of surrounding trees. The damaged trees take much needed water from the healthy plants and trees. Poplars and Hickory were hit by draught issues in 1999 and 2000. Those especially need to be individually evaluated as each piece of timber. Forestry stewardship, take the worst first. All the best, Tom

Connie, They say pictures speak a thousand words. Take pictures of various cemeteries in your county. Set an appointment to get on the commissioner's agenda. Be prepared and bring legislation and the pictures to your meeting. Maybe even ask them to come with you on a "field trip" to tour the cemeteries in the county. Remember to be diplomatic. This is going to be probably something new to them so be educational. Indiana codes you will need are 23-14-67 "Care of Cemeteries by Counties" and 23-14-68 "Care of cemeteries by Townships". Give them copies. You can find them on the INPCRP website. We wish you the best of luck and keep us posted! Angela Tielking -----Original Message----- From: Connie Brubaker [mailto:cbrubaker@onlyinternet.net] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:30 AM To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [INPCRP] information Since I just re-joined this site I would like to know how to urge the Commissioners of my county to become more aware of the conditions of our cemeteries and to get them to do something about it. Connie Brubaker Wells County IN ----- Original Message ----- From: <INPCRP-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <INPCRP-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 7:00 AM Subject: INPCRP-D Digest V06 #44 ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of "UNSUBSCRIBE" to INPCRP-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com or to INPCRP-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com (for DIGEST version)

do y'all think it's better to leave some trees in a cemetery, or remove them all? cemetery in question has so many trees in it that it looks like a forest from the road. in fact, that's probably one thing that has deterred vandalism -- the fact that one doesn't realize it's a cemetery until you get in amongst the trees. scot

Probably not a landslide. But those stone are only about 3 foot from a 50 foot drop to the creek. Each location should be evaluated by a number of things. Good luck, LAC ----- Original Message ----- From: <ScotStout@aol.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [INPCRP] questions --Creeping myrtle, or periwinkle vinca vine > thanks to jim & l.a. for their responses. right now, this cemetery is in > a > condition that prohibits mowing. it is treacherous even trying to walk > through > it. i seriously doubt that anyone could get rid of the vinca with any > kind > of weed killer without applying it relentlessly for a year or two... i > had 3 > beds of it in my current yard when i moved in and am still finding it > after > trying to remove it for the last 3 years. incidentally, l.a., since its > roots > are extremely shallow, it's not doing anything to stabilize the hillside > in the > cemetery you mentioned. it might slow surface erosion, but it sure won't > slow > down a landslide! > > my main concern is whether or not the weed killer would damage the stones, > which is the case. i have contacted my cousin regarding it, and asked him > to > not use it. > > thanks for your help, everyone. > > scot > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know. > >

Hi Scott, I have one cemetery that is covered with Vinca or Myrtle as well. It creates a beautiful site that, like you said, stops the growth of weeds and such. Not trees, but most weeds. The one in our county is on a bluff and it is probably holding the soil on the hillside. I wouldn't dream of killing this groundcover. I remember hearing years ago this was purposely put there by our pioneers to do the job. I've thought the same thing you have about finding the missing pieces in the mass of greenery. My best guess would be to mow the area in the late fall and then do the search for stones as early as possible in the year. When you are done with your restoration this would probably fill in again in a few years. Sorry folks, I just can not see using weed killer on this ground cover. It takes care of the problem of not mowing and stops the growth very well. And like you said Scott, there is not damage to the tombstones as it doesn't climb. Here is the photo link for the one I mentioned above. http://www.rootsweb.com/~intcpcrg/1-Pictures/NewCastle.JPG & a page that explains the plants use. http://landscaping.about.com/cs/pestcontrol/a/deer_cover_4.htm L.A. Clugh > Hi Scot: > > My name is Jim Mezo from Evansville, IN and I do cemetery restoration > work professionally. Yes, the weed killer will damage stones over time > and is not recommended. I would recommend just mowing and that will > probably eventually kill out the vines. There is a plants that were > used as ground cover in cemeteries of old that is a kind of substitute > for grass. > > You are right at first looking at protecting what you have without > further damage. > > I would be interested in assisting or doing the restoration, depending > on your specific location. I have been trained through the Indiana > Historical Society by a Mr. John Walters and do have some practical > experience in a few cemeteries. Please let me know if I can be of > assistance. > > Have a great day and good luck, > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: scotstout@aol.com [mailto:scotstout@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:20 PM > To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [INPCRP] questions > > hello, everyone. i have some questions i'm hoping you can help answer. > here's the situation. a large cemetery in KY has been abandoned for at > least 60 years. it is full of very large trees, some of which have > fallen. the entire graveyard is covered with vinca minor, a ground > cover. vinca is a vine, but does not attach itself to anything like ivy > does. it causes no damage to the stones and does not climb the trees. > it has pretty much kept most other weeds under control, but it does not > choke out tree seedlings, obviously. > > a cousin who is a farmer has mentioned using a weed killer on the vinca. > i'm concerned that the chemicals may damage the stones. does anyone > know what the ramifications of a weedkiller on tombstones? > > in case you're wondering, my cousins and i DO want to have the cemetery > restored. right now we're just trying to keep it protected until we're > able to reach that goal. > > thanks, > > scot > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of "UNSUBSCRIBE" to > INPCRP-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > or to INPCRP-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com (for DIGEST version) > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Quote from William Gladstone (1809-1897), three-time Prime Minister of > England and Victorian contemporary of Benjamin Disraeli: > "Show me the manner in which a nation or community > cares for its dead and I will measure with mathematical > exactness the tender mercies of its people, their > respect for the laws of the land, and their loyalty > to high ideals." > >

thanks to jim & l.a. for their responses. right now, this cemetery is in a condition that prohibits mowing. it is treacherous even trying to walk through it. i seriously doubt that anyone could get rid of the vinca with any kind of weed killer without applying it relentlessly for a year or two... i had 3 beds of it in my current yard when i moved in and am still finding it after trying to remove it for the last 3 years. incidentally, l.a., since its roots are extremely shallow, it's not doing anything to stabilize the hillside in the cemetery you mentioned. it might slow surface erosion, but it sure won't slow down a landslide! my main concern is whether or not the weed killer would damage the stones, which is the case. i have contacted my cousin regarding it, and asked him to not use it. thanks for your help, everyone. scot

Hi Jim, I'm not sure what you mean by recall. All the message run through the Rootsweb email service. Nothing can be deleted or recalled. L.A. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mezo, Jim" <Jim.Mezo@cinergy.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 1:29 PM Subject: Recall: [INPCRP] questions > Mezo, Jim would like to recall the message, "[INPCRP] questions". > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know. > >

Since I just re-joined this site I would like to know how to urge the Commissioners of my county to become more aware of the conditions of our cemeteries and to get them to do something about it. Connie Brubaker Wells County IN ----- Original Message ----- From: <INPCRP-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <INPCRP-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 7:00 AM Subject: INPCRP-D Digest V06 #44

Mezo, Jim would like to recall the message, "[INPCRP] questions".

Hi Scot: My name is Jim Mezo from Evansville, IN and I do cemetery restoration work professionally. Yes, the weed killer will damage stones over time and is not recommended. I would recommend just mowing and that will probably eventually kill out the vines. There is a plants that were used as ground cover in cemeteries of old that is a kind of substitute for grass. You are right at first looking at protecting what you have without further damage. I would be interested in assisting or doing the restoration, depending on your specific location. I have been trained through the Indiana Historical Society by a Mr. John Walters and do have some practical experience in a few cemeteries. Please let me know if I can be of assistance. Have a great day and good luck, Jim -----Original Message----- From: scotstout@aol.com [mailto:scotstout@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:20 PM To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [INPCRP] questions hello, everyone. i have some questions i'm hoping you can help answer. here's the situation. a large cemetery in KY has been abandoned for at least 60 years. it is full of very large trees, some of which have fallen. the entire graveyard is covered with vinca minor, a ground cover. vinca is a vine, but does not attach itself to anything like ivy does. it causes no damage to the stones and does not climb the trees. it has pretty much kept most other weeds under control, but it does not choke out tree seedlings, obviously. a cousin who is a farmer has mentioned using a weed killer on the vinca. i'm concerned that the chemicals may damage the stones. does anyone know what the ramifications of a weedkiller on tombstones? in case you're wondering, my cousins and i DO want to have the cemetery restored. right now we're just trying to keep it protected until we're able to reach that goal. thanks, scot ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of "UNSUBSCRIBE" to INPCRP-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com or to INPCRP-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com (for DIGEST version)

hello, everyone. i have some questions i'm hoping you can help answer. here's the situation. a large cemetery in KY has been abandoned for at least 60 years. it is full of very large trees, some of which have fallen. the entire graveyard is covered with vinca minor, a ground cover. vinca is a vine, but does not attach itself to anything like ivy does. it causes no damage to the stones and does not climb the trees. it has pretty much kept most other weeds under control, but it does not choke out tree seedlings, obviously. a cousin who is a farmer has mentioned using a weed killer on the vinca. i'm concerned that the chemicals may damage the stones. does anyone know what the ramifications of a weedkiller on tombstones? in case you're wondering, my cousins and i DO want to have the cemetery restored. right now we're just trying to keep it protected until we're able to reach that goal. thanks, scot

In a message dated 5/15/2006 6:57:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Jackbriles@aol.com writes: all I have to do is get it passed the commissioners. I know you all wish me LUCK Good luck Jack! All the best, Tom

I wish to thank everyone who responded to my appeal for information on cemetery commissions. I now have what I need, all I have to do is get it passed the commissioners. I know you all wish me LUCK, I'll need it. Jack E. Briles Sr. jackbriles@aol.com

From the Louisville Courier-Journal Monday, May 15, 2006 http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060515/NEWS02/605150381 Volunteers' work is a grave matter Group restoring cemeteries to keep their connection to the past By Christopher Hall Special to The Courier-Journal A small group of volunteers gathered over the weekend to pay their respects to the dead in a most practical manner. The all-volunteer Harrison County Cemetery Restoration Team worked most of the day Saturday to clean and refurbish the Kaylor Cemetery in Morgan Township, just outside New Salisbury. The event was a cemetery-restoration workshop and was open to the public, but the five members of the not-for-profit organization were the only ones there when work started about 9 a.m. The team put on the workshop in conjunction with the Historic Landmarks Foundation of Indiana's Jeffersonville office. The agencies have two more workshops planned, Saturday at the Pitman Cemetery in Spencer Township and May 27 at the Old Mount Zion Cemetery near Mauckport. Before yesterday, the group's members already had cleared out and mapped Kaylor Cemetery and made a list of its dozen graves. The oldest grave marker is dated 1846; the newest, 1935. With a portable generator, special soft-bristled brushes, garden sprayers and a little muscle, the three men and two women cleaned and polished markers and made broken gravestones ready to mend with strong epoxy cement. One taller grave marker, with an obelisk-like structure on top about ready to fall over, was to be taken down and cleaned and eventually reset and steadied on its base. The team set up a hoist with a large tripod fashioned from metal tubing and chains to lift the stones. At one point in the morning, group historian Kevin Conrad used wire rods to dowse, or "witch," for any hidden stone markers, much as traditional dowsers use green twigs to search for underground water. Conrad acknowledged the method is hardly scientific but said it seems to work. The Cemetery Restoration Team got started in October after splitting off from the Harrison County Historical Society, and finished work on the first cemetery in November. The team now is in various stages of work on several others and has plans to work on almost 20 -- including Kaylor -- over the summer, said group President Karl Schettler. The group receives funding from Harrison County township trustees and individuals, he said. The team germinated in 2001 when Schettler retired and relocated, along with his wife, to Lanesville from Torrance, Calif., near Los Angeles. He found a cemetery on his property, and in researching its history, learned the very locations of many cemeteries in Harrison County were unknown. Schettler started working with the historical society to track down the lost cemeteries, which led to him meeting the rest of the restoration team's members, all of whom have had a long fascination with cemeteries. The group's vice president, Kenny Neukam, has mowed a local cemetery for a quarter of a century. It's an enjoyable hobby, Schettler said, and the group hopes other people will want to spend Saturdays working with them outdoors. "That's what we do. We're preserving and restoring cemeteries," said Schettler. "We look at this as a betterment of our community." Kevin Conrad and his wife, Angie, drive down most weekends from their home in Indianapolis to work with the team. Conrad got involved when he was researching his family's Harrison County connections. He said cemeteries are invaluable historic records, especially for people tracing their ancestry, but age, construction and lack of concern are taking their toll "We're losing these cemeteries," he said. "Once they're gone, they're gone." Chris Fisher, the group's secretary, said the team's work helps maintain a connection to the past. Fisher, who lives in Ramsey on a farm that has been in her family for more than a century, said her mother used to drag her to local cemeteries when she was "itty-bitty" and show her where her ancestors were buried. "This is who we are," she said. "These people, whether they're my ancestors or not, are who made Harrison County what it is. . If we don't remember them, no one else will."

Jack, This former Henry county commissioner told me for years that there would never be a cemetery commission in Henry county as long as he was commissioner. Well....guess what? He is no longer a county commissioner, but we now have a cemetery commission. We never gave up. Good luck and give em hell Jack! UEB Henry County ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila Rooker" <gravefinder2003@yahoo.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 9:05 PM Subject: RE: [INPCRP] Newton Co, Cemetery commission ? > Jack, > I think it is great that you are following through with this. It is a > learning lesson for all of us. Sheila Morrison > > Angela <atielking@insightbb.com> wrote: > Jack, > I am so glad that you are pursuing this! You can do it! Just be diplomatic > and you will do fine. I will be thinking of you. > Angela Tielking > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jackbriles@aol.com [mailto:Jackbriles@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 12:48 AM > To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [INPCRP] Newton Co, Cemetery commission ? > > > To anyone on the List, > > Someone sent me a copy of the Newton Co.. Cemetery Ordinance. I am > unable to find my copy. I thought Kyle sent it to me but I cant remember. > It > was > just what we need for Floyd Co. All we would have to do is change the name > of > the Co. and the ordinance number and maybe 1 or 2 other things. We are now > ready to push for a Funded Commission. The sooner the better. The > commissioners > are putting together my list of cemeteries and putting them on a Co. > map.They > will be Listed Numerically, alphabetically, by Section and Township and > Listed > by latitude and Longitude. The Planing and Zoning Board will have a copy > so > they will know if there is a Cemetery located on a proposed Development > site > or > not. I even have the ones that have been destroyed marked close enough > that > there will have to be confirmation as to the fact that the cemetery will > not > be > disturbed. We have potential developments all over the county, and also > Cemeteries. If any one has a copy of a Cemetery Commission Ordinance, I > would > appreciate it if they would send me a copy. > Thanks, > Jack E. Briles Sr > jackbriles@aol.com > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know. > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > "Show me your cemeteries, and I will tell you what kind of people you > have." > Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790) > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ > countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > "Show me your cemeteries, and I will tell you what kind of people you > have." > Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790) > >