List has been quiet for the last few months. LA, I went to the website the other day and just wanted to let you know that it looks great. You've done a good job on it. Brian Smead Terre Haute, IN -----Original Message----- From: L.A. CLUGH [mailto:clugh_la@msn.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 12:24 PM To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Am i Still On the List Greetings Jack and list, Jack, you most certainly are still on the list. Both email's. I has been quiet this year. There has been a lot of folks that have emails bounced/returned lately. The system at Rootsweb will take care of all this by it's self. I don't have to mess with removing anyone. Melody, looks like some great photos and participation on your dedication Congrats! We need to here more like this. LA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jackbriles@aol.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 9:53 PM Subject: [INPCRP] Am i Still On the List > > I just changed to a newcomputer and windows xp has me s-------- up, I dont > know if aol is still with me or not > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > This list is for discussion of topics related to the Indiana Pioneer > Cemeteries Restoration Project only. > Please do not send genealogical queries through this list. The surname > and geographic Mailing Lists on Rootsweb at http://lists.rootsweb.com are > a better venue. > Thank you. > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of "UNSUBSCRIBE" to INPCRP-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com or to INPCRP-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com (for DIGEST version)

Greetings Jack and list, Jack, you most certainly are still on the list. Both email's. I has been quiet this year. There has been a lot of folks that have emails bounced/returned lately. The system at Rootsweb will take care of all this by it's self. I don't have to mess with removing anyone. Melody, looks like some great photos and participation on your dedication Congrats! We need to here more like this. LA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jackbriles@aol.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 9:53 PM Subject: [INPCRP] Am i Still On the List > > I just changed to a newcomputer and windows xp has me s-------- up, I dont > know if aol is still with me or not > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > This list is for discussion of topics related to the Indiana Pioneer > Cemeteries Restoration Project only. > Please do not send genealogical queries through this list. The surname > and geographic Mailing Lists on Rootsweb at http://lists.rootsweb.com are > a better venue. > Thank you. > >

Heard ya loud and clear Jack! You may be all s-------d up, but you're doing it with friends! Kyle

I just changed to a newcomputer and windows xp has me s-------- up, I dont know if aol is still with me or not

Hi Joan, Let me see if I can better explain this for you. The first stage of survey and mapping of the Sumner and Stewart cemeteries that has previously been described here is intended to identify areas where the potential for unmarked graves is likely. This is accomplished by creating an accurate site map and monument database for analysis of both the existing site features and conditions, as well as, interpretation of any available historical documentation. Areas devoid of surface features and monuments, but that may contain unmarked burials are far easier to interpret in this manner. With regard to any further subsurface imaging work, the purpose of this level of investigation is to identify areas for possible future cemetery use by the Township and for parties interested in being buried here. Obviously, the last thing anyone wants to happen would be the accidental disturbance of unmarked remains; particularly during the funeral of a person who has purchased a gravesite. Careful subsurface imaging of the areas identified during the initial investigation will reveal any man-made disturbances that are consistent with the size, shape and orientation of human burials and will ensure that all previously disturbed ground is avoided. In this way, the undisturbed areas may be deemed appropriate for future cemetery use and sale. It is important to understand that there is no attempt to differentiate between "stone and bone", and the contents of the grave disturbance are really not a consideration unless they provide additional unequivocal identification as a gravesite, i.e. metal caskets, vaults, etc. Essentially, if the ground has been disturbed below the surface and or if a preponderance of all of the available evidence suggests that there is probability of previous burial, the area is slated for avoidance and should not be considered for future use. On the other hand, areas that have not been disturbed may be appropriately utilized by the Township or Cemetery Association. In some instances, unmarked graves that have been adequately identified by Ground Penetrating Radar and or other subsurface imaging methods can have a small but permanent marker placed identifying them as such with the intention to ensure that this ground remains undisturbed in the future. Placement of new markers is at the discretion of the Trustee or other responsible parties. I hope I've adequately answered the "stone or bone" question as it pertains to subsurface imaging in cemeteries. But if I haven't, please feel free to write me off list and I'll have another go at it. Best Regards, Rich Green Historic Archaeological Research 4338 Hadley Court West Lafayette, IN 47906 Office: (765) 464-8735 Mobile: (765) 427-4082 www.har-indy.com You said: Thanks for the message. I already knew this was going as I have talked with Paul Weismiller, Cicero Township Trustee. I don't know quite how this works. I understand finding something underground, but don't know how it can tell stone from bones, etc. Joan Wray Tipton County Pioneer Cemetery Restoration

Thanks for the message. I already knew this was going as I have talked with Paul Weismiller, Cicero Township Trustee. I don't know quite how this works. I understand finding something underground, but don't know how it can tell stone from bones, etc. Joan Wray Tipton County Pioneer Cemetery Restoration

Hello the list: I haven't seen much activity on the list of late, so I thought I'd post this news release: Historic Archaeological Research (HAR) contracted with the Cicero Township Trustee to conduct precision survey and mapping of two large 19th century cemeteries in Tipton County, Indiana. This work corroborated and updated earlier efforts by historians and genealogists to record readings from monuments. All surface features in the Stewart and Sumner cemeteries were surveyed with a Nikon Total Station and site plan maps coded to coincide with historical documentation were created. Survey and mapping of cemeteries accomplished in conjunction with a monument database will provide researchers with an accurate depiction of current conditions on both cemeteries. This initial stage of documentation will also assist in identifying where unmarked graves and or unutilized areas within the cemeteries may exist. Subsurface imaging techniques including magnetometer/metal detection, Electromagnetic Conductivity (EMC) and Ground Penetrating Radar (GPR) may be employed in these open areas in order to determine usage and areas with potential for future use. Regards to all, Rich Green Historic Archaeological Research 4338 Hadley Court West Lafayette, IN 47906 Office: (765) 464-8735 Mobile: (765) 427-4082 www.har-indy.com

I would suggest Lee Creed of Putnam County. We've worked with him with cemetery restoration and I know he has done some really good retaining wall work. Not sure if he would be interestedin your project, but he is on the list and if he would like to give it a whirl I imagine he will respond. Larry Tippin Sheila Morrison Putnam County ----- Original Message ----- From: <LindaKen2048@aol.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 3:54 PM Subject: [INPCRP] Replace retaining wall > Does anyone know of someone who replaces retaining walls in cemeteries? I > have a 100 foot retaining wall that is next to a country road which is > kinda on > a hill holding a row of graves. This is a pioneer cemetery in Howard > County. > I am the trustee and I need to get some quotes for my annual budget. Any > help or suggestions is appreciated and I thank you in advance. > > Linda Gill Grove > Researching: IN: Gill, Manor, Stout, Mann > NYC: Callaghan, McAleer, McGregor, Joyce > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of > "UNSUBSCRIBE" to INPCRP-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > or to INPCRP-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com (for DIGEST version) > >

Does anyone know of someone who replaces retaining walls in cemeteries? I have a 100 foot retaining wall that is next to a country road which is kinda on a hill holding a row of graves. This is a pioneer cemetery in Howard County. I am the trustee and I need to get some quotes for my annual budget. Any help or suggestions is appreciated and I thank you in advance. Linda Gill Grove Researching: IN: Gill, Manor, Stout, Mann NYC: Callaghan, McAleer, McGregor, Joyce

As follow-up to what Kyle reported earlier (see email below), there is a nice article in today's Lafayette Journal and Courier, in the Region section: http://www.jconline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060618/COLUMNISTS01/606180319/1141/NEWS If you haven't seen it yet, check it out! John ----- Original Message ----- From: <KidClerk@aol.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 7:26 PM Subject: [INPCRP] What we've been up to... > > In a message dated 4/22/2006 1:02:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, > Armytruck@webtv.net writes: > > I wonder what everyone is up to on this years work projects ? > > Lee: > > Riverside Cemetery at Brook continues to have stones repaired, cleaned, > and > leveled thanks to Helen Wildermuth and Mark Davis. Also just this week > Mark > and Helen reinstalled the grave stone for a 2 year old boy who died in > 1846 > and whose grave is in the middle of a cow pasture. Thanks to my township > trustee, the area of the grave was fenced off so that the cattle do not > cause it > any harm. Then the repaired stone was reset. This is one of the oldest > graves in our county, and is 14 years older than our county itself. > > Just today I received permission to reinstall two grave stones on private > property a few hundred yards from the stone mentioned above on another > piece of > property. Those date to 1858 and 1864 and are a husband and wife. The > previous owner had removed them for safe keeping in the 1970's and they > remained > in his tool shed until his death last year . Unfortunately, his > daughters > did not want them put back up, so they gave them to me so they could be > repaired with hopes of putting them back on the graves after the property > sold or at > least installing them in Riverside Cemetery with a plaque mentioning > where > the graves actually were. I was pleasantly surprised when the new owners > told > me today they would welcome them back on the property and would take care > of > them! > > Considering the Brook community is celebrating its sesquicentennial this > year, these will make for great projects to have completed for such an > occasion. > > > Kyle D. Conrad > Brook, IN > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know.

Try this link: http://www.cr.nps.gov/nr/listing.htm Rich Green Historic Archaeological Research 4338 Hadley Court West Lafayette, IN 47906 Office: (765) 464-8735 Mobile: (765) 427-4082 www.har-indy.com ----- Original Message ----- From: scotstout@aol.com To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [INPCRP] simple question actually, i was thinking along the lines of something federal, since the cemetery in question is in kentucky, not indiana. anybody know of any federal guidelines? thanks, scot -----Original Message----- From: Donna T <dtauber@kiva.net> To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:42:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [INPCRP] simple question I think Bud did it though here http://www.statelib.lib.in.us/www/ihb/cemeteries/ceminitiative.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <ScotStout@aol.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 11:08 PM Subject: [INPCRP] simple question > how does one go about getting a cemetery designated as "historical?" > > the one i have in mind has 2 civil war vets and 1 rev. war vet. > > scot > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > This list is for discussion of topics related to the Indiana Pioneer > Cemeteries Restoration Project only. > Please do not send genealogical queries through this list. The surname > and geographic Mailing Lists on Rootsweb at http://lists.rootsweb.com are > a better venue. > Thank you. > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== THIS IS A CEMETERY ----- "Lives are commemorated - deaths are recorded - families are reunited - memories are made tangible - and love is undisguised. This is a cemetery. "Communities accord respect, families bestow reverence, historians seek information and our heritage is thereby enriched. "Testimonies of devotion, pride and remembrance are carved in stone to pay warm tribute to accomplishments and to the life - not the death - of a loved one. The cemetery is homeland for family memorials that are a sustaining source of comfort to the living. "A cemetery is a history of people - a perpetual record of yesterday and sanctuary of peace and quiet today. A cemetery exists because every life is worth loving and remembering - always." --Author unknown -- Seen at a monument dealer in West Union, IA ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of "UNSUBSCRIBE" to INPCRP-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com or to INPCRP-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com (for DIGEST version)

actually, i was thinking along the lines of something federal, since the cemetery in question is in kentucky, not indiana. anybody know of any federal guidelines? thanks, scot -----Original Message----- From: Donna T <dtauber@kiva.net> To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:42:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [INPCRP] simple question I think Bud did it though here http://www.statelib.lib.in.us/www/ihb/cemeteries/ceminitiative.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <ScotStout@aol.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 11:08 PM Subject: [INPCRP] simple question > how does one go about getting a cemetery designated as "historical?" > > the one i have in mind has 2 civil war vets and 1 rev. war vet. > > scot > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > This list is for discussion of topics related to the Indiana Pioneer > Cemeteries Restoration Project only. > Please do not send genealogical queries through this list. The surname > and geographic Mailing Lists on Rootsweb at http://lists.rootsweb.com are > a better venue. > Thank you. > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== THIS IS A CEMETERY ----- "Lives are commemorated - deaths are recorded - families are reunited - memories are made tangible - and love is undisguised. This is a cemetery. "Communities accord respect, families bestow reverence, historians seek information and our heritage is thereby enriched. "Testimonies of devotion, pride and remembrance are carved in stone to pay warm tribute to accomplishments and to the life - not the death - of a loved one. The cemetery is homeland for family memorials that are a sustaining source of comfort to the living. "A cemetery is a history of people - a perpetual record of yesterday and sanctuary of peace and quiet today. A cemetery exists because every life is worth loving and remembering - always." --Author unknown -- Seen at a monument dealer in West Union, IA ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.

I think Bud did it though here http://www.statelib.lib.in.us/www/ihb/cemeteries/ceminitiative.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <ScotStout@aol.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 11:08 PM Subject: [INPCRP] simple question > how does one go about getting a cemetery designated as "historical?" > > the one i have in mind has 2 civil war vets and 1 rev. war vet. > > scot > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > This list is for discussion of topics related to the Indiana Pioneer > Cemeteries Restoration Project only. > Please do not send genealogical queries through this list. The surname > and geographic Mailing Lists on Rootsweb at http://lists.rootsweb.com are > a better venue. > Thank you. > >

how does one go about getting a cemetery designated as "historical?" the one i have in mind has 2 civil war vets and 1 rev. war vet. scot

You can get a historical marker through the Indiana Historical Bureau if the cemetery qualifies. You can find more information on their website here: http://www.statelib.lib.in.us/WWW/IHB/cemeteries/ceminitiative.html At 10:08 PM 06/12/2006, you wrote: >how does one go about getting a cemetery designated as "historical?" > >the one i have in mind has 2 civil war vets and 1 rev. war vet. > >scot > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >This list is for discussion of topics related to the Indiana Pioneer >Cemeteries Restoration Project only. >Please do not send genealogical queries through this list. The >surname and geographic Mailing Lists on Rootsweb at >http://lists.rootsweb.com are a better venue. >Thank you.

South Mound Cemetery is officially 'Historic' By FRANKI ZILE fzile@thecouriertimes.com The residents of this community have long known that South Mound Cemetery is a special place. But now it's official. South Mound Cemetery has been designated as a historic cemetery on the Indiana Cemetery and Burial Grounds Registry for the Indiana Department of Natural Resources. But organizers of the effort to designate the cemetery as such are looking for assistance in getting several other local cemeteries recognized, too. The honor bestowed on South Mound makes it the first in Henry County to be designated on the state registry. In honor of that designation, new signs will be installed recognizing the accomplishment. South Mound Cemetery Superintendent Chip England said a sign at the Cherry Street entrance should be installed by next week. Another sign at the Bundy Avenue entrance will take a little longer because officials are planning a more formal mounting for the sign at that entrance. England said the state designation is just the first step in getting the cemetery acknowledged on the national registry of historic places. England said this is a goal not only to recognize the cemetery's importance and heritage, but also to assist in securing grant funding for future renovation and preservation projects. "We really feel we're kind of unique because of the lay of the land and who is interred here," England said. "We have some captains of industry and other historical (figures.)" England cited the Ingersoll family of steel industry fame, Jesse French of the Jesse French Piano Factory and Civil War General William Grose as some of the more notable people buried in the New Castle cemetery. The effort to get the cemetery included on the state registry is through the assistance "Bud" Bush and the Henry County Cemetery Commission. Bush, long known for his commitment to preserving local cemeteries, has spent numerous hours cataloging information on all the county's more than 120 pioneer cemeteries - those more than 100 years old - in order to make them eligible for the state registry. Now, officials are hoping to find local businesses, organizations or individuals to help sponsor registry signs for other local cemeteries. The inclusion of a cemetery on the registry also means its information will be accessible on a statewide data base that is being compiled, Bush explained. The database includes information on the cemetery's location, those who are buried there and more. Bush said this type of information is very important in maintaining local history. But it also is invaluable to those researching genealogy through the Internet from around the world. Bush added that it is an exhaustive process to get on the state registry. Information and documentation has to be researched and is double checked by the state cemetery registry officials. But the effort is painstakingly done in order to make sure the information and database will be accurate, Bush explained. Officials said they are encouraged by the recent efforts and interests in local cemeteries and their history. "It's kind of nice that the community is starting to take an interest in these cemeteries," England said. "If you take the time to read the epitaph, you can learn a lot of history." "You can get the complete history of a town just by the tombstones," Bush added. "And the cemetery commission has been working hard to make sure they are protected." But cemeteries often go beyond just being a final resting place for someone's loved one. England said South Mound is becoming a popular place for walkers. It serves as a safe, quiet place for meditation, he explained. And, he added, state officials were quite impressed with the public's use of the 112-acre cemetery, not including Westlawn Addition. England said officials are planning to make improvements to the facility in the near future, including repairs to the Gen. Grose family graves and the dedication of the reinternment of a Revolutionary War soldier who had been moved to South Mound from another cemetery. But England and Bush said the community's help is needed to assist officials in keeping local aging cemeteries maintained and repaired. England said he would love to see organizations, churches or individuals from the community volunteer to help do some additional maintenance in the older portions of the cemetery, such as to clean some of the 100-plus-year-old stones. "It's a great way to spend a couple hours," England said. Bush said the community's help also is needed to sponsor signs for designating cemeteries on the state registry. Sign sponsorship is about $130. Bush said practically all the county's cemeteries qualify for designation. A few families and groups have already stepped forward to sponsor signs, but much more assistance is needed. Both Bush and England have high hopes for the local cemeteries and the registry listings. They also hope the community will continue to support the effort in helping to maintain local history through this means. "You have to preserve your history and history is best preserved in cemeteries," England said. Anyone wanting more information on volunteering clean-up efforts at South Mound can contact England there at 521-6850. Anyone wanting more information about sponsoring a cemetery sign elsewhere in the county, the state registry or the county's cemetery commission, contact Bush at 521-4149 or at his Web site at www.hcgs.net.

Dear Jim: Take a look at the INPCRP archives for April through June 2000 at: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/IN/misc.html#INPCRP That's when we went head to head with Black Beauty Coal Company over Braner Cemetery up in Sullivan County, Indiana. The big difference there was that Peabody Coal took the liberty of running its LOGGING EQUIPMENT through the cemetery, demolishing each and every one of the stones, before filing their "Petition to Disinter" the cemetery. Through the concerted efforts of dozens of good folks on this list, we were able to create a firestorm of negative publicity in Sullivan County and, on a broad platform, in the Indianapolis Star. (God bless Bill Shaw!!) The battle went on until June 5, 2000, when Black Beauty Coal withdrew its Petition to Disinter in Sullivan Superior Court. I haven't heard any reports in recent years on the current fate of the cemetery. There was literally nothing left above ground to restore except for a couple of tiny fragments. Jim, it sounds like this company in Illinois is hoping to avoid "disturbing" the graves by mining underneath them instead of incurring the expense of relocating them. I am still troubled by the proposal. Lois ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mezo, Jim" <Jim.Mezo@cinergy.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 11:59 AM Subject: RE: [INPCRP] New story > Here is a new one to me. At a cemetery in Illinois they are planning to > mine coal from under the cemetery. I understand the plan is to lay all > the monuments down before mining, but I don't know if they plan to reset > them or not. Have you ever heard of such a thing? > > Have a great day, > Jim

Here is a new one to me. At a cemetery in Illinois they are planning to mine coal from under the cemetery. I understand the plan is to lay all the monuments down before mining, but I don't know if they plan to reset them or not. Have you ever heard of such a thing? Have a great day, Jim -----Original Message----- From: L.A. CLUGH [mailto:Clugh_la@msn.com] Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 6:07 PM To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [INPCRP] New story http://www.wdtimes.com/articles/2006/06/03/news/news2.txt Greetings everyone, Sure has been quiet lately. I passing on a story link someone sent me on a couple who has photographed over 100 000. tombstones. Preservation in a different way. Surely someone one has a good memorial day story to share. LAC ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know.

http://www.wdtimes.com/articles/2006/06/03/news/news2.txt Greetings everyone, Sure has been quiet lately. I passing on a story link someone sent me on a couple who has photographed over 100 000. tombstones. Preservation in a different way. Surely someone one has a good memorial day story to share. LAC

To the list, Please accept my apologies in advance for posting another test to the list. Our ISP finished it's final upgrade which included changing our DNS addresses. Hopefully, this will correct my problem with Rootsweb. I have not been able to post from this computer since May 3rd. Hope this one makes it. Regards, Rich Green Historic Archaeological Research 4338 Hadley Court West Lafayette, IN 47906 Office: (765) 464-8735 Mobile: (765) 427-4082 www.har-indy.com