Yes, that would be my ancestor. Stephen Franklin wrote: > There is only one Revolutionary War soldier known to be in Scott cemetery > and yes he has a goverement marker. > > http://www.geocities.com/sdfranklin_1999/lewis_richard.html > > Richard Lewis is his name... > > Stephen D Franklin > http://www.geocities.com/sdfranklin_1999/inssar_cem-project.html > Revolutionary War Soldiers Buried in Indiana > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Jb502000@aol.com> > To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 5:21 PM > Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Cemetery signs SCOTT > > > In a message dated 9/7/01 1:35:13 PM US Eastern Standard Time, > > walexander@iquest.net writes: > > > > > > > > > > I would think that the Scott Cemetery would be considered Historical. > That > > > is > > > the only cemetery that I am aware of in Floyd County. It has my > ancestors > > > including a Revolutionary War Soldier. > > > > > > Susan Price Alexander > > > > > > Susan, > > > There are 136 cemeteries in Floyd Co. besides Scott. But If you > can > > > have the Scott declared Historical, that would be great, I'm for it, but > > > the cemetery is taken care of by Tom Cannon the New Albany Township > Trustee > > > and I don't believe having a cemetery declared Historical comes under > bis > > > Job Desigination. An Individual like your self can do the Paper work and > > > see if it Qualifies as Historical with the IHB. For that matter there > are > > > two cemeteries within a mile and a half out at Galena with Revolutionary > > > Veterans buried in them. One is 40 Feet from the Property owners side > door. > > > The Relatives of the Veteran are Personaly filing the necessary papers > with > > > the DAR, and Expect to have a Dedicated stone in 6 to 8 months. The > > > Property Owners have to sign a Permission Paper for the relatives of the > > > Veteran to be able to Place the stone on the cemetery on their Property. > > > luckily when I met them the first time, I knew I had met a wonderful > > > couple. > > > > > > When they are finished with the stone and a Brass ENGLEMAN > CEMETERY > > > Plaque, then that Cemetery probably will become Historical. Temporarily > > > I have to repair his original Stone. There is a Burial of his Son in > 1812. > > > As far as Scott Cemetery, go for it, it might be accpeted. Does your > > > relative Veteran have a Government stone and marker by the DAR. If not > get > > > your paper work together and file it. At Scott your best Friend is Tom > > > Cannon, New Albany Township Trustee. And Since I have mentioned his > Name, > > > I talked him into Subscribing to our List Yesterday evening. I saw his > > > acceptance come up on his Screen, Welcome Aboard Tom. (Like I told you, > > > people don't really hate Trustees) I know he is keeping up. He's a good > > > Friend to have. Everyone say "Hi Tom" > > Susan, possibly with the right Local Help you could get Scott > Declared > > Historical. > > > There are cemeteries older in Floyd co, but I don't think that matters. > You > > > may have to state your reasons for the desigination > > You know Historical Cemeteries have been talked about on the List for > > probably a full > > > week. There is not much valid input in that short period of time. > > > > > > Jack E. Briles Sr. > > Floyd Co. INPCRP Cooridinator > > Po Box 444 > > New Albany, In. 47151-0444 > > (812) 282-6585 > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > > If you know of some good cemetery related links, send them to > LoisMauk@usa.net. > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Quote from William Gladstone (1809-1897), three-time Prime Minister of England > and Victorian contemporary of Benjamin Disraeli: > "Show me the manner in which a nation or community > cares for its dead and I will measure with mathematical > exactness the tender mercies of its people, their > respect for the laws of the land, and their loyalty > to high ideals."

In a message dated 9/7/01 1:35:13 PM US Eastern Standard Time, walexander@iquest.net writes: > > I would think that the Scott Cemetery would be considered Historical. That > is > the only cemetery that I am aware of in Floyd County. It has my ancestors > including a Revolutionary War Soldier. > > Susan Price Alexander > > Susan, > There are 136 cemeteries in Floyd Co. besides Scott. But If you can > have the Scott declared Historical, that would be great, I'm for it, but > the cemetery is taken care of by Tom Cannon the New Albany Township Trustee > and I don't believe having a cemetery declared Historical comes under bis > Job Desigination. An Individual like your self can do the Paper work and > see if it Qualifies as Historical with the IHB. For that matter there are > two cemeteries within a mile and a half out at Galena with Revolutionary > Veterans buried in them. One is 40 Feet from the Property owners side door. > The Relatives of the Veteran are Personaly filing the necessary papers with > the DAR, and Expect to have a Dedicated stone in 6 to 8 months. The > Property Owners have to sign a Permission Paper for the relatives of the > Veteran to be able to Place the stone on the cemetery on their Property. > luckily when I met them the first time, I knew I had met a wonderful > couple. When they are finished with the stone and a Brass ENGLEMAN CEMETERY > Plaque, then that Cemetery probably will become Historical. Temporarily > I have to repair his original Stone. There is a Burial of his Son in 1812. > As far as Scott Cemetery, go for it, it might be accpeted. Does your > relative Veteran have a Government stone and marker by the DAR. If not get > your paper work together and file it. At Scott your best Friend is Tom > Cannon, New Albany Township Trustee. And Since I have mentioned his Name, > I talked him into Subscribing to our List Yesterday evening. I saw his > acceptance come up on his Screen, Welcome Aboard Tom. (Like I told you, > people don't really hate Trustees) I know he is keeping up. He's a good > Friend to have. Everyone say "Hi Tom" Susan, possibly with the right Local Help you could get Scott Declared Historical. > There are cemeteries older in Floyd co, but I don't think that matters. You > may have to state your reasons for the desigination You know Historical Cemeteries have been talked about on the List for probably a full > week. There is not much valid input in that short period of time. > > Jack E. Briles Sr. Floyd Co. INPCRP Cooridinator Po Box 444 New Albany, In. 47151-0444 (812) 282-6585

I'm sorry about the delay on this information. My computer had a nervous breakdown this week and almost took me with it. So I don't know if this has been fully addresed yet or not. There is a Helphinstine Cemetery in Martin County, Indiana (I don't have any further location information). From the Cemeteries of Martin County, IN, Vol. III, by the Martin Co. Historical Society, those interred are: Helphinstine, William H. Helphinstine, Francis Helphinstine, Zachary T. Helphinstine, Rebeckah (?) There is a Helvestine Cemetery near Alfordsville, Daviess County, Indiana located on the Daviess County side of the county line road between Daviess and Martin counties. This cemetery is also known as Collins or McCord Cemetery. From Barbara Waggoner, those interred are: Collins, Nathaniel Collins, Eliza Collins, Elizabeth Collins, Stephen E. Collins, Nathaniel Jr. Collins, Dorothy V. McCord, H. V. McCord, Nancy (Alford) McCord, Lucebra McCord, Nellie May McCord, Viola McCord, Allen V. Miles, Lizzie M. (McCord) These appear to be 2 separate cemeteries. So I guess the question goes back to the person who initially reported the endangered cemetery. Which cemetery? Debra Dougherty Martinsville, IN

>Dear Ms. Mauk I apologize that the use of the Clark County information on the mock up caused any misconception about endorsement on your part; that certainly was not our intention. A new file was placed on our Web site immediately this afternoon eliminating any specific information. We appreciate your and the list serve's willingness to disseminate this information since interest in signage has been expressed in Jeannie Regan-Dinius's contacts through the DNR registry project contacts. In considering this initiative as an addition to our state marker program, we have discussed most of the comments I have seen so far in responses. Knowing that a sign is not for everyone-for any or all of those reasons, we decided to proceed for those who would want them. Input from the list will help us to make reasoned decisions about our next steps. When the decisions have been made with regard to which sign(s) can be offered and how, we will take your advice and refer INPCRP members to our Web site for information. Jeannie Regan-Dinius will also be disseminating information as she travels the state. On the other concern about the contact from our office, I again apologize. You-and your colleagues-have done a real service in compiling information about the County Cemetery Commissions. With that information as the basis, we are creating a database to track the submission to us of annual reports as required by law. Several of the contacts in the chart had only e-mail addresses and were asked to provide "snail mail" addresses as well. We intend to mail a status report of submissions to each established county cemetery commission contact. We expect to mount a list on our Web site so that the public can see what reports are available in our office. With your permission, we will link to your Web site so that people can obtain the latest information on their counties and find out more about your good work. Sincerely, Pamela J. Bennett Dear Ms. Bennett: > >Your 8/27/2001 message did not post to the group simply because it was >incorrectly addressed to the INPCRP command address. That is the only >reason your earlier message was not "disseminated". > >Despite the several complaints I have received from INPCRP members that this >was a blatant attempt to solicit the sale of these signs (which is contrary >to the basic rules of our host, Rootsweb), I was inclined to not object >because it is something that could potentially benefit the members who might >be interested in such signage. > >Such signage is a genuine extravagance for the vast majority of us who are >working with ZERO budgets, funding our projects straight out of our personal >pocketbooks. Personally, if I have to choose between paying for epoxy to do >stone repairs or spending a portion of my personal paycheck on a sign that >will in all likelihood be shot full of holes or stolen within a week, I >would go with the epoxy every time. The cemeteries that we work on are >primarily well off the beaten path where signs are invitations to vandalism. >As an example, in our part of the state, we can't get a "Church Entrance" >road sign from the county or the state to warn motorists of a >less-than-obvious >entrance because the 2 previous signs were stolen within weeks. > >However, I am not inclined to remain silent about the application of the >Clark County Cemetery Preservation Committee's name to the sample shown on >the webpage as what could be construed as a silent endorsement of this >project. Though I have received several rather snippy communiques from one >of your staff members demanding that I provide her with my home address for >an "in-house" IHB publication, NO ONE from your office has EVER contacted me >to request the permission of the CCCPC for inclusion in your sample sign. > >Please immediately replace the graphic representation of the new sign with >one that does not include the name of the Clark County Cemetery Preservation >Committee. > >I have no question that your efforts at the IHB are well-intentioned, but >solicitation for the sale of these signs is not permitted by Rootsweb. It >would be more appropriate to refer INPCRP members to the IHB's website for >information without specifically quoting prices or inviting pre-sales >commitments. > >I hope you can understand my position. Thank you. > >Lois Mauk > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Pamela J. Bennett" <pbennett@statelib.lib.in.us> >To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 3:24 PM >Subject: [INPCRP] Your input needed > > >> On August 27, 2001 I sent the following message to you for the list serve. >> It has not appeared to date. Was it received or is there some reason it >has >> not been disseminated? An earlier version was rejected because of an >> attachment, but this version has not included one. Thanks for a response >> or posting of the message. >> >> Your input needed >> As many of you know, the Indiana Historical Bureau has been >working >> with the Indiana Cemetery and Burial Grounds Registry project of DHPA to >be >> able to mark historic cemeteries listed in the Registry. >> We have been working with PEN Products (which makes all of the >> signs for state roads) to achieve a design that is both affordable, >> distinctive, informative, and dignified. The result of our efforts >> (proposed sign) is posted on our Web site (www.IN.gov/history), which >> includes both an image and specifications. >> We have also considered a generic sign (no name, date, or credit >> line) that could be available for approximately $30, plus shipping, plus >> $32 for two optional posts if needed. It would be 18 x 24 and be very >> similar to the sign illustrated on the attachment. >> We need your input to help us proceed with this cemetery >initiative >> of our State Marker Program. The pricing on the sign(s) is only guaranteed >> for 60 days because of a forthcoming price hike by 3M which supplies the >> background material. In addition, the pricing is based on an initial >> purchase of at least 50 signs at one time. Since our funds are very >> limited, we do not want to front the purchase of 50 signs without some >> assurance that there will be purchasers for them over the next year or so. >> Individually purchased, the signs will cost more. >> OUR REQUEST! Please let us know what you think of the sign as >> proposed on our Web site-and about the generic concept described above. >> There is no commitment here, but if you think you might order such a sign >> in the near future, please indicate that in an e-mail reply to us >> (pbennett@statelib.lib.in.us) or the list. >> Thanks for your help! >> >> Pamela J. Bennett >> Director >> Indiana Historical Bureau >> 140 North Senate Avenue >> Indianapolis, IN 46204-2296 >> 317-232-2988 >> FAX: 317-232-3728 >> http://www.state.in.us/history >> >> >> >> ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of >> "UNSUBSCRIBE" to INPCRP-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >> or to INPCRP-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com (for DIGEST version) >> >> Pamela J. Bennett Director Indiana Historical Bureau 140 North Senate Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46204-2296 317-232-2988 FAX: 317-232-3728 http://www.state.in.us/history

Hello, $1800-2000 sounds high for replacement stones. We have had some replacement stones made for $200 each. Follow this link and look in the first picture for the stones of John F. Woods and Isaac K. Woods. These cost $200 each: http://www.usroots.com/~jmurphy/gibson/gibcem/pat_marsh_creek/joseph_woods.htm Here is another one, the Keen Field stone: http://www.usroots.com/~jmurphy/gibson/gibcem/wr_field-morrison/keen_field.htm Another one, for Mary Polly Gordon is here: http://www.usroots.com/~jmurphy/gibson/gibcem/pat_marsh_creek/christopher_gordon.htm In the upper left corner of the picture is another one, with a little fancier carving and a tablet-shaped top. It cost a little more, but still quite a lot less than $2000. These were made for us by a monument maker in Evansville. Ernie At 07:53 AM 9/7/01, you wrote: >Pamela, >I think the signs look wonderful. I am not on the committee for Historical >Markers, but >I know our County Historical Society is active in replacing old Markers that >are gone or unreadable. And they are paying around $1800. to $2000.00 for >each Marker. >They have to do fundraising to achieve this for each marker. > >So this is a bargain and I'm so glad the Ind. Historical Bureau has thought >of our cemeteries and has given us this opportunity. > >One trustee had signage drawings done for a cemetery that a neighborhood has >been restoring, >his estimate was $6,000, and no one will see these signs from the road. >Doubt these will happen. > >I talked to one gentleman this week about working on his cemetery and >putting up a sign that states we restored this cemetery. He was afraid we >would put up something tacky. These are very clear in projecting the area >is historic. This was the cemetery that our County highway crews parked >the asphalt paver on top of his cemetery. Maybe a sign would have >helped.~ >This was a Wagon Train Cemetery. I've seen notes that state there were 125 >possible burials there. We now have 4 stones left. > >I love this OPPORTUNITY! >Lou Ann Clugh >Tippecanoe County Pioneer Cemeteries Group >See our cemeteries at: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~intippec/tcem.html > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >THIS IS A CEMETERY ----- > "Lives are commemorated - deaths are recorded - families >are reunited - memories are made tangible - and love is >undisguised. This is a cemetery. > "Communities accord respect, families bestow reverence, >historians seek information and our heritage is thereby enriched. > "Testimonies of devotion, pride and remembrance are carved >in stone to pay warm tribute to accomplishments and to the life - >not the death - of a loved one. The cemetery is homeland for family >memorials that are a sustaining source of comfort to the living. > "A cemetery is a history of people - a perpetual record of >yesterday and sanctuary of peace and quiet today. A cemetery >exists because every life is worth loving and remembering - always." > --Author unknown -- Seen at a monument dealer in West Union, IA

Jb502000@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/7/01 5:34:14 AM US Eastern Standard Time, > cmchenry@seidata.com writes: > > Although we Don't Have any > Historical Cemeteries in Floyd Co. Unless we put a sign up at each one, if > the Historical Designation will save them. > > Jack E. Briles Sr. I would think that the Scott Cemetery would be considered Historical. That is the only cemetery that I am aware of in Floyd County. It has my ancestors including a Revolutionary War Soldier. Susan Price Alexander

In a message dated 9/7/01 5:34:14 AM US Eastern Standard Time, cmchenry@seidata.com writes: > , and they are some sort of resin, not metal Cris, I don't know what or where you read it, but The wording says THE SIGN IS DESIGNED TO LOOK LIKE THE TRADITIONAL INDIANA STATE MARKER, and are . 080 Gage ALUMINIMUN, not "some type of REISIN" I don't like to correct anyone, but i'm reading it. Still a good price I guess. Although we Don't Have any Historical Cemeteries in Floyd Co. Unless we put a sign up at each one, if the Historical Designation will save them. The only truly Historical cemetery contained the Remains of the three Scribner Brothers who Bought the ground in 1808, and then founded the Town of New Albany in 1813. Their "Remains were moved to the Northern Burying Grounds (Now Fairview Cemetery) between mid 1840 and mid 1853. Almost every other family plot in the County has the Original owner, or his family buried there on what was at that time their property. I honestly don't know what is Historical and what isn't. Down here everything has a historical significance. Jack E. Briles Sr. Floyd Co. INPCRP Coordinator Po Box 444 New Albany, In 47151-0444 (812) 282-6585

Thank you very much for your comments. We have worked to achieve what ssemed to be both tasteful and economical. Thanks for all that you are doing, as well. Pamela, >I think the signs look wonderful. I am not on the committee for Historical >Markers, but >I know our County Historical Society is active in replacing old Markers that >are gone or unreadable. And they are paying around $1800. to $2000.00 for >each Marker. >They have to do fundraising to achieve this for each marker. > >So this is a bargain and I'm so glad the Ind. Historical Bureau has thought >of our cemeteries and has given us this opportunity. > >One trustee had signage drawings done for a cemetery that a neighborhood has >been restoring, >his estimate was $6,000, and no one will see these signs from the road. >Doubt these will happen. > >I talked to one gentleman this week about working on his cemetery and >putting up a sign that states we restored this cemetery. He was afraid we >would put up something tacky. These are very clear in projecting the area >is historic. This was the cemetery that our County highway crews parked >the asphalt paver on top of his cemetery. Maybe a sign would have >helped.~ >This was a Wagon Train Cemetery. I've seen notes that state there were 125 >possible burials there. We now have 4 stones left. > >I love this OPPORTUNITY! >Lou Ann Clugh >Tippecanoe County Pioneer Cemeteries Group >See our cemeteries at: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~intippec/tcem.html > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >THIS IS A CEMETERY ----- > "Lives are commemorated - deaths are recorded - families >are reunited - memories are made tangible - and love is >undisguised. This is a cemetery. > "Communities accord respect, families bestow reverence, >historians seek information and our heritage is thereby enriched. > "Testimonies of devotion, pride and remembrance are carved >in stone to pay warm tribute to accomplishments and to the life - >not the death - of a loved one. The cemetery is homeland for family >memorials that are a sustaining source of comfort to the living. > "A cemetery is a history of people - a perpetual record of >yesterday and sanctuary of peace and quiet today. A cemetery >exists because every life is worth loving and remembering - always." > --Author unknown -- Seen at a monument dealer in West Union, IA Pamela J. Bennett Director Indiana Historical Bureau 140 North Senate Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46204-2296 317-232-2988 FAX: 317-232-3728 http://www.state.in.us/history

Susan, You missed Jack Brile's cynicism. Jack has been despretely trying to save the historic cemeteries in Floyd Co., but he's not been able to persuade the powers that be that they are of any significance, let alone historic significance. He could really use some help, so if you would like to help ensure the future of the Scott Cemetery, you might want to contact Jack direct and see what you can do. I know he'd love the help. Sue Silver California ----- Original Message ----- From: William & Susan Alexander <walexander@iquest.net> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Cemetery signs > > > Jb502000@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 9/7/01 5:34:14 AM US Eastern Standard Time, > > cmchenry@seidata.com writes: > > > > > Although we Don't Have any > > Historical Cemeteries in Floyd Co. Unless we put a sign up at each one, if > > the Historical Designation will save them. > > > > Jack E. Briles Sr. > > I would think that the Scott Cemetery would be considered Historical. That is > the only cemetery that I am aware of in Floyd County. It has my ancestors > including a Revolutionary War Soldier. > > Susan Price Alexander > > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > This list is for discussion of topics related to the Indiana Pioneer > Cemeteries Restoration Project only. > >

My wife is Hysterical at times...Can I get a sign to put in front of her? ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Silver To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Signs Maybe the developers will order signs to put in people's front yards.... Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jb502000@aol.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:43 PM Subject: [INPCRP] Signs > > Our cemeteries in Floyd County are more Hysterical than Historical. Most of > our signs would have to be put in Roadways or Parking Lots at the rate of > protection they are getting. We have some a 1/4 mile off of any road. Signs > would be meaningless. Does Historical mean an overgrown cemetery dedicated > as a Memorial to the Settlers and Indians. NOT. > > > Jack E. Briles Sr. > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Quote from William Gladstone (1809-1897), three-time Prime Minister of England > and Victorian contemporary of Benjamin Disraeli: > "Show me the manner in which a nation or community > cares for its dead and I will measure with mathematical > exactness the tender mercies of its people, their > respect for the laws of the land, and their loyalty > to high ideals." > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== If you know of some good cemetery related links, send them to LoisMauk@usa.net.

Only if you intend for her to be burned periodically.... Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: William Spurlock <wspurlock@savinggraves.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Signs > My wife is Hysterical at times...Can I get a sign to put in front of her? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sue Silver > To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:56 AM > Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Signs > > > Maybe the developers will order signs to put in people's front yards.... > > Sue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Jb502000@aol.com> > To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:43 PM > Subject: [INPCRP] Signs > > > > > > Our cemeteries in Floyd County are more Hysterical than Historical. Most > of > > our signs would have to be put in Roadways or Parking Lots at the rate of > > protection they are getting. We have some a 1/4 mile off of any road. > Signs > > would be meaningless. Does Historical mean an overgrown cemetery > dedicated > > as a Memorial to the Settlers and Indians. NOT. > > > > > > Jack E. Briles Sr. > > > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > > Quote from William Gladstone (1809-1897), three-time Prime Minister of > England > > and Victorian contemporary of Benjamin Disraeli: > > "Show me the manner in which a nation or community > > cares for its dead and I will measure with mathematical > > exactness the tender mercies of its people, their > > respect for the laws of the land, and their loyalty > > to high ideals." > > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > If you know of some good cemetery related links, send them to LoisMauk@usa.net. > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of > "UNSUBSCRIBE" to INPCRP-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > or to INPCRP-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com (for DIGEST version) > >

We, too, have been pricing signs for pioneer cemeteries. What an awakening! A modest, faux wood sign similar to our local township idenification signs would have cost $1,500-$2,000. The most economical "sign" we've found is an engraved stone at 40 cents a pound. Ruth Schlemmer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris McHenry" <cmchenry@seidata.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:29 AM Subject: [INPCRP] Cemetery signs > If those of you who think the price of the proposed cemetery signs is too high, you have obviously not purchased any kind of sign lately. Our historical society has been pricing signs for our pionner homstead, and cannot find anything at all under several hundred dollars, and most are over a thousand. Several years ago we bought one for our museum, and it was over $500 and was the very cheapest we could find. Sizes are pretty comparable to what the Historical Bureau is offering, and they are some sort of resin, not metal. It does sound expensive, but it looks like a bargain to me, when you compare it purchasing signs on the open market. Chris McHenry > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Cemetery: (n) A marble orchard not to be taken for granite. >

Maybe the developers will order signs to put in people's front yards.... Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jb502000@aol.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:43 PM Subject: [INPCRP] Signs > > Our cemeteries in Floyd County are more Hysterical than Historical. Most of > our signs would have to be put in Roadways or Parking Lots at the rate of > protection they are getting. We have some a 1/4 mile off of any road. Signs > would be meaningless. Does Historical mean an overgrown cemetery dedicated > as a Memorial to the Settlers and Indians. NOT. > > > Jack E. Briles Sr. > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Quote from William Gladstone (1809-1897), three-time Prime Minister of England > and Victorian contemporary of Benjamin Disraeli: > "Show me the manner in which a nation or community > cares for its dead and I will measure with mathematical > exactness the tender mercies of its people, their > respect for the laws of the land, and their loyalty > to high ideals." > >

Pamela, I think the signs look wonderful. I am not on the committee for Historical Markers, but I know our County Historical Society is active in replacing old Markers that are gone or unreadable. And they are paying around $1800. to $2000.00 for each Marker. They have to do fundraising to achieve this for each marker. So this is a bargain and I'm so glad the Ind. Historical Bureau has thought of our cemeteries and has given us this opportunity. One trustee had signage drawings done for a cemetery that a neighborhood has been restoring, his estimate was $6,000, and no one will see these signs from the road. Doubt these will happen. I talked to one gentleman this week about working on his cemetery and putting up a sign that states we restored this cemetery. He was afraid we would put up something tacky. These are very clear in projecting the area is historic. This was the cemetery that our County highway crews parked the asphalt paver on top of his cemetery. Maybe a sign would have helped.~ This was a Wagon Train Cemetery. I've seen notes that state there were 125 possible burials there. We now have 4 stones left. I love this OPPORTUNITY! Lou Ann Clugh Tippecanoe County Pioneer Cemeteries Group See our cemeteries at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~intippec/tcem.html

If those of you who think the price of the proposed cemetery signs is too high, you have obviously not purchased any kind of sign lately. Our historical society has been pricing signs for our pionner homstead, and cannot find anything at all under several hundred dollars, and most are over a thousand. Several years ago we bought one for our museum, and it was over $500 and was the very cheapest we could find. Sizes are pretty comparable to what the Historical Bureau is offering, and they are some sort of resin, not metal. It does sound expensive, but it looks like a bargain to me, when you compare it purchasing signs on the open market. Chris McHenry

Our cemeteries in Floyd County are more Hysterical than Historical. Most of our signs would have to be put in Roadways or Parking Lots at the rate of protection they are getting. We have some a 1/4 mile off of any road. Signs would be meaningless. Does Historical mean an overgrown cemetery dedicated as a Memorial to the Settlers and Indians. NOT. Jack E. Briles Sr.

They will have to find them on their own in Knox County. Jon Andrews >From: Jb502000@aol.com >Reply-To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com >To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Your input needed >Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 00:28:28 EDT > >In a message dated 9/6/01 11:07:31 PM US Eastern Standard Time, >sianoil@hotmail.com writes: > > > > Come on down and you can help us clean a cemetery if > > you want to get involved." > > Jon Andrews > > > > > Jon, They are also going to sell a book with driving instructions to the >cemeteries that the Database is recording > >Jack .Briles > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >Quote from William Gladstone (1809-1897), three-time Prime Minister of >England >and Victorian contemporary of Benjamin Disraeli: > "Show me the manner in which a nation or community > cares for its dead and I will measure with mathematical > exactness the tender mercies of its people, their > respect for the laws of the land, and their loyalty > to high ideals." > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

In a message dated 9/6/01 11:07:31 PM US Eastern Standard Time, sianoil@hotmail.com writes: > Come on down and you can help us clean a cemetery if > you want to get involved." > Jon Andrews > > Jon, They are also going to sell a book with driving instructions to the cemeteries that the Database is recording Jack .Briles

You asked for input! Nice sign, but then for $125.00 it ought to be, and that doesn't even include the posts. Seems to me that soliciting products on this list should violate some kind of rule. Also, seems like the Indiana Historical Bureau could play a more active role in coordinating a statewide effort to oversee the problems with cemeteries in this state, instead of trying to make a buck off of it. Where have you been for the last hundred years? I like the way that we buy the sign, but then they stick their name on the bottom of it. Why don't they hit the legislature up to provide these signs to the public, instead of them running off on a junket to Alaska. If any township trustee buys one of these with their budget, they need their head examined and I don't think many cemetery commission's budgets could handle it. In our area, signs don't last very long and especially with farmers who don't want you there anyway. Typical government B.S. Something to make it look like they are really doing something, when we all know that they are doing nothing at all. What I say is, "Come on down and you can help us clean a cemetery if you want to get involved." Jon Andrews >From: pbennett@statelib.lib.in.us (Pamela J. Bennett) >Reply-To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com >To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [INPCRP] Your input needed >Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 14:24:34 -0500 > >On August 27, 2001 I sent the following message to you for the list serve. >It has not appeared to date. Was it received or is there some reason it has >not been disseminated? An earlier version was rejected because of an >attachment, but this version has not included one. Thanks for a response >or posting of the message. > >Your input needed > As many of you know, the Indiana Historical Bureau has been >working >with the Indiana Cemetery and Burial Grounds Registry project of DHPA to be >able to mark historic cemeteries listed in the Registry. > We have been working with PEN Products (which makes all of the >signs for state roads) to achieve a design that is both affordable, >distinctive, informative, and dignified. The result of our efforts >(proposed sign) is posted on our Web site (www.IN.gov/history), which >includes both an image and specifications. > We have also considered a generic sign (no name, date, or credit >line) that could be available for approximately $30, plus shipping, plus >$32 for two optional posts if needed. It would be 18 x 24 and be very >similar to the sign illustrated on the attachment. > We need your input to help us proceed with this cemetery >initiative >of our State Marker Program. The pricing on the sign(s) is only guaranteed >for 60 days because of a forthcoming price hike by 3M which supplies the >background material. In addition, the pricing is based on an initial >purchase of at least 50 signs at one time. Since our funds are very >limited, we do not want to front the purchase of 50 signs without some >assurance that there will be purchasers for them over the next year or so. >Individually purchased, the signs will cost more. > OUR REQUEST! Please let us know what you think of the sign as >proposed on our Web site-and about the generic concept described above. >There is no commitment here, but if you think you might order such a sign >in the near future, please indicate that in an e-mail reply to us >(pbennett@statelib.lib.in.us) or the list. > Thanks for your help! > >Pamela J. Bennett >Director >Indiana Historical Bureau >140 North Senate Avenue >Indianapolis, IN 46204-2296 >317-232-2988 >FAX: 317-232-3728 >http://www.state.in.us/history > > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of >"UNSUBSCRIBE" to INPCRP-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > or to INPCRP-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com (for DIGEST version) > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

I just went to the site, down at the bottom is the cemetery sign info. Double click this and the very faint sign that says walnut ridge cemetery, the price $ 132.00. It's all there Jack E. Briles Sr. Floyd Co. INPCRP Coordinator PO Box 444 New Albany, In. 47151-0444 (812) 282-6585