Lois I will be attending the Cemetery Workshop in Madison. I may have a few others with me, but I don't know yet. Thanks for reminding me that there is a deadline for registration. Ellyn Kern, Switzerland County

I'm still waiting for the DNR to re-open the "Old Bank Building in Vincennes"....which was to have happened this summer.....Also across from our 40 acre woods in Pike Co. is a planting of native grasses, under the supervision of the Agriculture Dept, as a no till, restoration program.cost share ,don't believe plans are to burn,,just rotate mowing each year in strips...this would help keep saplings from taking over.....and as far as I know ,no one buried there......This is owned by a former P.O. W.....Ruth Pride...See you in Madison........

Since there is a lull in the conversation tonight, this might be a good time to ask how many of you are coming down to Madison on 10/06/2001 for the Cemetery Restoration Workshop. Haven't heard any headcounts yet on registrations, but I'm hoping there will be several there from the Kentucky Attorney General's Taskforce of Cemetery. I was at a reception Wednesday night with the Kentucky Attorney General and I put in another plug for some of his people to join us. He seemed quite interested in the subject, which is always good. Katherine Dill at the IHS has provided me with an updated Agenda for the Madison Workshop and it is on-line at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~inpcrp/MadisonAgenda.PDF For more information, see: http://www.rootsweb.com/~inpcrp/workshops.html#Madison Lois

Jon Hello, I am writing tomorrow morning to Jeannie. The Silence on St. Johns (Not now, nor ever, Barrens) Cemetery is Deafening. I have never received an answer. I wonder if those supporting Grass and Weeds in this Harrison County cemetery, have Beautiful Material like that growing in the Cemeteries where there Familles are buried. Is this a Fair Question? I would drive anywhere in Indiana to their Ancestors Cemeteries to help sow the Harrison County Seeds. If this one is a Memorial, I believe we should have more Memorials and spread the Beauty around to all. Especially for those who defend the Weedy Memorial Agenda. I wonder if I will get any takers on my offer. I would like to know of one cemetery in the State that a relative of a State official is buried in that is allowed to Grow up, and then Burnt like St. Johns, instead of Mowed. I ask questions, but I get the feeling my E-mails don't reach as far as Indianapolis. But if I'm right, (Which I am Now) I don't care.!!! This is not a CAROLINA Cultural Cemetery, and I soundly Resent it's Treatment as such. If the State is so strong on Culture, take this one back to It's German Lutheran Status This is enough for now !! Jack E. Briles Sr. Floyd County PCRP Coordinator Po Box 444 New Albany, In. 47151-0444 (812) 282-6585 Fax (812) 282-6585

I wonder if DNR would be interested in turning the Hamer Cemetery at Spring Mill State Park into a managed prairie? It would be better of, wouldn't it? It would also serve a dual purpose. The local fire departments could come in during the burning and practice wetting down the wooden buildings in the village to keep them from burning. I'm also wondering, did DNR hold a public hearing concerning turning St. John's Cemetery into a prairie? If they did, when and where was it held and what was the outcome of the hearing? If they did not hold a hearing, why didn't they? Sam Cline Hoosier Web http://www.hoosierweb.org/ The candle light will always be gleaming through the sycamores. The latch string is always out.

i was wondering the same thing! Ruth Pride...

We received space on the front page of our local paper today concerning our workshop Saturday. Any publicity that we can get for our pioneer cemeteries is helpful. http://www.hoosiertimes.com/stories/2001/09/20/RT.new.36418.sto [I'm not sure how long the above link will be available.] Sam Cline Hoosier Web http://www.hoosierweb.org/ The candle light will always be gleaming through the sycamores. The latch string is always out.

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Well, the Petition signatures keep rolling in. We received almost 300 this week from Joan Schreiber, a Professor of History, Social Studies Education at Ball State University, and her college students. Are you ready for today's total? Drum roll, please. . . . . . . . . . . . . INDIANA SIGNATURES: 1,289 FROM OUT OF STATE: 160 GRAND TOTAL . . . . . . . . 1,449 Keep 'em coming! We're still counting!!!! For the county-by-county breakdown, see: http://www.rootsweb.com/~inpcrp/tabulation.html Lois ==================== HAVE YOU SIGNED A PETITION TO SLOW THE RELOCATION OF CEMETERIES IN INDIANA? See Indiana Pioneer Cemeteries Restoration Project website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~inpcrp Clark Co., IN Cemetery Preservation Committee: http://www.rootsweb.com/~incccpc

Saturday, September 22, 2001, the Morgan County History and Genealogy Association will host a tombstone repair/resetting/cleaning workshop. The workshop will take place at the Mahalasville Cemetery, southeast of Martinsville at 1:00 in the afternoon. John Walters of Fayette County, noted tombstone repairman and recoverer, will present it. He will be showing us how to repair tombstones, how to reset them and clean them. The Mahalasville Cemetery is located as follows: SOUTHBOUND S.R. 37 at Martinsville (first stoplight is at S.R. 44; second stoplight is at S.R. 252, third stoplight is Mahalasville Road) to Mahalasville Road; turn left onto Mahalasville Road, go about 5 miles to Voyles Road and turn left there. The cemetery is on the right at the top of the hill you will be going up, about 1/4 mile from Mahalasville Road. NORTHBOUND S.R. 37 at Martinsville (first stoplight is Burton Lane; second stoplight is Mahalasville Road) to Mahalasville Road; turn right onto Mahalasville Road, go about 5 miles to Voyles Road and turn left there. The cemetery is on the right at the top of the hill you will be going up, about 1/4 mile from Mahalasville Road. All of our programs, unless otherwise noted, are free and open to the public. God bless America! Sam Cline Hoosier Web http://www.hoosierweb.org/ The candle light will always be gleaming through the sycamores. The latch string is always out.

Hi All I just wanted to let you all know that I am now working on the SAR Graves Registration Committee with the South-Central Indiana SAR District. This is the same group that Stephen Franklin works on in Southern Indiana. We cover a wedge of counties from Orange in the South to Monroe north icluding Lawrence, Greene, Martin, and Owen. If any members of the INPCRP locates a Revolutionary Grave in those areas, please let either myself or Ed Hitchcock know. My personal email is dee@ccrtc.com and Ed's is eeh@bloomington.in.us Many Thanks Art Dillman

And be an inspiration to the young.... Sue Silver CA ----- Original Message ----- From: Art Dillman <dillmaca@hotmail.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Return to Cemeteries > Hi Jack > > Like yourself, I suspended other activities this week except for one. That > was to mail my signatures to you on Wednesday in order to meet the deadline. > I trust you received it. > > It will soon be first frost. As you know I stay out of the woods and fields > during the summer after getting badly stung more than 12 times in an hour > last year in Little Flock. I agree with you! Even though I spend 27 years in > the uniform of our county, it is time for the young men and women to take > our place. Those thousands of people that died on Tuesday will need a burial > place. Let us hope that 200 years in the future, others will still respect > their final resting place. As members of the elderly community, we can not > fight this war, but we can continue to fight to perserve our cemeteries. I > can assure you that if called, I would serve! But, at 62, I suspect they > will not call me to serve in uniform again. In any case, I can still cut > weeds, mend stones, and fill sunken graves. It will soon be time to go back > to doing that and so I shall. > > Best Regards to you, I'll see you in a cemetery soon, I trust! > > With respect; > > Clarence A. (Art) Dillman > CWO2 AUS (retired) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Jb502000@aol.com> > To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 15 September, 2001 11:29 AM > Subject: [INPCRP] Return to Cemeteries > > > > I have, as I believe all others on the List have a Very,Very, deep > > sorrow for what has happened to our country since Tuesday morning. Words > > can't really describe the feelings I am sure we all have. But we must get > > back, as well we can to our normal lives. It will be difficult, but we > face > > difficulties in our lives each day. Therefore after today I will be back > to > > the Discussions that our list normally relates to, which is subjects > > concerning cemeteries. They also have very deep seated problems which we > must > > address. This does not mean we will forget this past week, it only means, > we > > must get back to our everyday lives. To resume as best we can, the things > we > > normally do. We must not let this change our lives. Even those not > directly > > involved have been deeply affected, But we must move on. I will do > anything I > > can to aid our country, but for now, God Bless America > > > > Jack E. Briles Sr. > > Floyd County INPCRP Coordinator > > Po Box 444 > > New Albany, In. 47151-0444 > > (812) 282-6585 > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > > THIS IS A CEMETERY ----- > > "Lives are commemorated - deaths are recorded - families > > are reunited - memories are made tangible - and love is > > undisguised. This is a cemetery. > > "Communities accord respect, families bestow reverence, > > historians seek information and our heritage is thereby enriched. > > "Testimonies of devotion, pride and remembrance are carved > > in stone to pay warm tribute to accomplishments and to the life - > > not the death - of a loved one. The cemetery is homeland for family > > memorials that are a sustaining source of comfort to the living. > > "A cemetery is a history of people - a perpetual record of > > yesterday and sanctuary of peace and quiet today. A cemetery > > exists because every life is worth loving and remembering - always." > > --Author unknown -- Seen at a monument dealer in West Union, IA > > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of > "UNSUBSCRIBE" to INPCRP-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > or to INPCRP-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com (for DIGEST version) > >

Hi Jack Like yourself, I suspended other activities this week except for one. That was to mail my signatures to you on Wednesday in order to meet the deadline. I trust you received it. It will soon be first frost. As you know I stay out of the woods and fields during the summer after getting badly stung more than 12 times in an hour last year in Little Flock. I agree with you! Even though I spend 27 years in the uniform of our county, it is time for the young men and women to take our place. Those thousands of people that died on Tuesday will need a burial place. Let us hope that 200 years in the future, others will still respect their final resting place. As members of the elderly community, we can not fight this war, but we can continue to fight to perserve our cemeteries. I can assure you that if called, I would serve! But, at 62, I suspect they will not call me to serve in uniform again. In any case, I can still cut weeds, mend stones, and fill sunken graves. It will soon be time to go back to doing that and so I shall. Best Regards to you, I'll see you in a cemetery soon, I trust! With respect; Clarence A. (Art) Dillman CWO2 AUS (retired) ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jb502000@aol.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 15 September, 2001 11:29 AM Subject: [INPCRP] Return to Cemeteries > I have, as I believe all others on the List have a Very,Very, deep > sorrow for what has happened to our country since Tuesday morning. Words > can't really describe the feelings I am sure we all have. But we must get > back, as well we can to our normal lives. It will be difficult, but we face > difficulties in our lives each day. Therefore after today I will be back to > the Discussions that our list normally relates to, which is subjects > concerning cemeteries. They also have very deep seated problems which we must > address. This does not mean we will forget this past week, it only means, we > must get back to our everyday lives. To resume as best we can, the things we > normally do. We must not let this change our lives. Even those not directly > involved have been deeply affected, But we must move on. I will do anything I > can to aid our country, but for now, God Bless America > > Jack E. Briles Sr. > Floyd County INPCRP Coordinator > Po Box 444 > New Albany, In. 47151-0444 > (812) 282-6585 > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > THIS IS A CEMETERY ----- > "Lives are commemorated - deaths are recorded - families > are reunited - memories are made tangible - and love is > undisguised. This is a cemetery. > "Communities accord respect, families bestow reverence, > historians seek information and our heritage is thereby enriched. > "Testimonies of devotion, pride and remembrance are carved > in stone to pay warm tribute to accomplishments and to the life - > not the death - of a loved one. The cemetery is homeland for family > memorials that are a sustaining source of comfort to the living. > "A cemetery is a history of people - a perpetual record of > yesterday and sanctuary of peace and quiet today. A cemetery > exists because every life is worth loving and remembering - always." > --Author unknown -- Seen at a monument dealer in West Union, IA > >

One need only go to South Newbury Cemetery in Newbury Township, Geauga County, Ohio to see what burning in a cemetery will do. The sandstone monuments are blackened by the absorbed carbon into the stone and after a rain they turned a reddish color with orange streaks. Kind of like a burnt cinder. Other (granite) stones don't seem to be affected except where they have gotten hot, but it can't be good for them. All seem to be black in color to some extent. This happened 15 years ago when they burnt a tree, but if you know what you are looking for it is still evident today. There is no doubt in my mind that heat will crack a stone. Jon Andrews >From: "Sue Silver" <ssilver1951@jps.net> >Reply-To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com >To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [INPCRP] [Fwd: Cemetery prairie management] >Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 07:20:02 -0700 > >Good morning, > >I have shortened this a little, but am responding to the paragraph on fire >damage to tombstones. > >I don't know when this procedure was put into place by the DNR, but I find >it very alarming that someone would make a determination that no damage is >done to something after the first or even second incident of burning, and >then declare no harm will be done. In the absence of any published >evidence >or study, this determination can not be made based on the information that >was available (ie visual assessment, tactile sensation...) > >In California, our environmental laws (and I use this often in reference >because it appears to be the only thing we have that addresses similar >issues) dictate that a "project" (usually land developement related) must >assess the LONG TERM EFFECT OR IMPACT upon the area being studied. In >environmental terms that would be, of course, air quality, traffic >circulation, etc. > >In this instance, without any concerted effort to study the EFFECTS OR >IMPACTS of annually burning grasses, weeds and shrubs adjacent to historic >memorial monuments of made of varying materials, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THIS >MAN TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION THAT HE DID. > >I would urge my Indiana friends to protest this planned burning of your >historic cemeteries on the basis that there is insufficient information or >study to support the assertion that no damage is being done to the stones. >It's just that simple... > >Sue Silver >CA > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Norman Bryant <nbryant@netdirect.net> >To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 12:03 AM >Subject: [INPCRP] [Fwd: Cemetery prairie management] > > > > > Thought you would be interested in the reply from Mr. Swinford of DNR > > > > Pat, Indpls > > > > Dear Pat Bryant: > > > > Thank you for your interest in Indiana pioneer cemeteries. I work for >the > > Indiana Department of Natural Resources and am familiar with pioneer > > cemeteries managed for prairie in Indiana, Illinois, and Ohio. I will >try > > to answer your questions. > > > > >>>>>> Damage to headstones due to fire. I have been on literally >dozens >of fires > > on cemeteries. I needed to be personally convinced that no damage was > > coming to these old headstones through our prescribed fires. I can >report > > that these stones are cool to the touch immediately after the fast >moving > > grass fires have passed through. I have seen no evidence of cracking or > > smoke damage. > > > > Do not hesitate to contact me with further questions. > > > > Thomas O. Swinford > > Regional Ecologist > > IDNR, Div. of Nature Preserves > > 402 W. Washington St. Rm W267 > > Indianapolis IN 46204 > > 317/233-4849 > > tswinford@dnr.state.in.us > > > > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of >"UNSUBSCRIBE" to INPCRP-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > or to INPCRP-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com (for DIGEST version) > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

I have, as I believe all others on the List have a Very,Very, deep sorrow for what has happened to our country since Tuesday morning. Words can't really describe the feelings I am sure we all have. But we must get back, as well we can to our normal lives. It will be difficult, but we face difficulties in our lives each day. Therefore after today I will be back to the Discussions that our list normally relates to, which is subjects concerning cemeteries. They also have very deep seated problems which we must address. This does not mean we will forget this past week, it only means, we must get back to our everyday lives. To resume as best we can, the things we normally do. We must not let this change our lives. Even those not directly involved have been deeply affected, But we must move on. I will do anything I can to aid our country, but for now, God Bless America Jack E. Briles Sr. Floyd County INPCRP Coordinator Po Box 444 New Albany, In. 47151-0444 (812) 282-6585

Our Adobe Acrobat program is active, and I even opened it before trying again to read the information from the website. Maybe my computer had problems with a .pdf file. Thanks for down-loading the information. Without seeing a picture, I think the signs sound solid, appropriate, and reasonable in price. Sharon Mills At 09:53 PM 9/6/01 -0500, you wrote: >I clicked on it & my Adobe Acrobat program downloaded a file which showed >the sign, specifications, and pricing information. The sign was $125.00 >plus shipping, the optional post was $32.00: > >Indiana Historical Bureau >Cemetery Initiative >Proposed Sign to Mark Historic Cemeteries >August 22, 2001 > >Specifications >• Signs are .080 gauge aluminum with 4 >holes for installation on posts or other >surfaces. The four corners will be >rounded. >• Background of sign is dark blue Scotch >Lite 3M UV (10 year guarantee). >• All art and lettering on sign is gold color >screenprinting, including the outline of >the marker. The sign is designed to >suggest the traditional Indiana state >marker. >• Text is on one side only. >• Size is 24” x 24” >• Custom printed with the name and >establishment date of the cemetery. >• Cost approximately $125 plus shipping; >price guaranteed for 60 days. >• Optional metal sign posts available for >$32.00; these are the same posts used >with street signage. > >Ernie > >At 09:37 PM 9/6/01, you wrote: >>I just went to the site, down at the bottom is the cemetery sign info. Double >>click this and the very faint sign that says walnut ridge cemetery, the price >>$ 132.00. It's all there >> >>Jack E. Briles Sr. >>Floyd Co. INPCRP Coordinator >>PO Box 444 >>New Albany, In. 47151-0444 >>(812) 282-6585 >> >> >>==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >>To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of >>"UNSUBSCRIBE" to INPCRP-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >> or to INPCRP-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com (for DIGEST version) > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >If you know of some good cemetery related links, send them to LoisMauk@usa.net. > > >

Pam Bennett said: "The result of our efforts >(proposed sign) is posted on our Web site (www.IN.gov/history), which >includes both an image and specifications." Is anyone else having trouble pulling up the image? I'm just getting a symbol where the photo should be. Sharon Mills

Somewhere during the 150 emails I got this one day, I read "tell us what is happening in your county with the clean up of cemeteries." We have 2 and sometimes 3 super, super guys that go out in all kinds of weather to find overgrown or neglected cemeteries. We also have a volunteer group of about 15 that help from time to time. Our genealogy society has an article in the newspaper each month entitled "Tales and Trails." The article is written by a society member on anything that touches their likes or heart. I just had to send this one your way...written by Valerie Sweeney, a former teacher who has a beautiful singing voice, and a very caring personality. Email her at msweeney@wvc.net if you think this is worthy. She entitled her article "Time and Labor Brings Unexpected Reward." It was early spring in Knox County and the sun had not yet made its presence felt in the fields and farmlands. Only a thin light shone through often gray skies, and there was still a distinct chill in the air. A plea had been made by two local gentlemen who had already given many hours and much hard work to a project which touched the hearts of all the members of the local genealogical society. Would we be willing to donate some of our time and labor to the reclaiming of at least part of the list of pioneer cemeteries long neglected? We learned that of the 170 known cemeteries in the county, 41 are considered endangered. Many of them have disappeared, covered by vines and weeds. The only rewards for our efforts would be aching joints, blistered hands, scratches from old briars, perhaps a turned ankle and cold feet. Later, when summer descended upon us, there would be poison ivy, snakes, insects, mole holes, difficulty breathing from the humidity and profuse sweating. Nevertheless, a small band of us decided to venture with our leaders to Iona Cemetery, near Decker, in southern Knox County. This was to be our first such effort of several until the infamous Knox County summer sweltering heat would force us to call a halt until autumn's kinder temperatures. So, early on that March morning, we drove to Iona and began walking through the woods, with permission, toward the small cemetery. My husband, Marvin, was one of the first to reach the area, and he shouted, "Would you look at this?" I knew with great anticipation that his "find" had to be a good one. He is not given to great emotion! Upon reaching the cemetery, our group found him standing in front of a large, upright marker which looked like new __ no significant damage or wear upon it. Inscribed thereon was the name Samuel N. Willson (sic), born March 7, 1784, died Sept. 11, 1832! The deceased was a direct ancestor of Marvin's! Wilson's ancestors had come to the New World from Scotland in 1726. After settling in Virginia, the family moved on to Kentucky and finally to this area. No doubt Iona was named for that far-away island off the western coast of Scotland. It is an ancient place, long occupied by Druids, and then in AD 563 its people heard the Gospel from St. Columbia and Christianity bloomed. Pilgrims from all over the world visit it today, so it is no wonder that early Knox County pioneers who longed for home and stability would carry their important place names with them. My husband knew that Samuel's father, Alexander, had been scalped and killed by Piankeshaw Indians in 1786 on the Embarrass River in Illinois. He knew that Samuel was 2 years old when his father died. He knew that Samuel's brother, Walter, had been a scout for William Henry Harrison in his campaigns, and had been a representative in Indiana's legislature. However, he had no idea where any of them were buried. The odds of finding not only a burial place, but a stone which was in very good shape and was legible had certainly been slim. His excitement and surprise were felt by everyone. It has always been a wish of mine to find the burial place of my great-great-great-grandfather, Thomas Jordan and his wife, Catherine Gilmore Jordan. They were founding members of Indiana Presbyterian Church, but were most likely buried in a family plot. No doubt we will never know where they were buried, because the place is probably now part of a field or woods, lost to neglect and the encroachment of man and nature. We have given up. Marvin's good fortune was a rarity. His reward was most unusual and was much appreciated. But let me say that there is a reward for the two men who have given so many hours and so much labor and even for those few of us who have, hopefully, begun in a small way to try to roll back the decades of neglect by authorities who have not done their duty. This reward is nothing tangible, we can't hold it in our hands. It is simply the satisfaction of knowing that we are doing the right thing, that we honor and respect those sturdy pioneers who came before us. We will resume our efforts this fall. Won't you join us? (by Valerie Sweeney) (By the way the two gentlemen that have done so much for Knox County cemeteries are Bob Hill and Jon Andrews.) Hopefully Jon and Bob will report what they are doing now and plan to do this fall and winter. We are sure proud of these two guys. Natalie R.

I recently bought the tape and I enjoyed it. Since I am new at this "cemetery thing", I learned alot. Angela Tielking ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Spurlock" <wspurlock@savinggraves.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:14 AM Subject: [INPCRP] Video's > Have any of you had the chance to see the "Cryptic Clues In The Boneyard" video put out by Sharon DeBartolo Carmack? It's more focused on the aspects of researching in cemeteries, rather than repair and restoiration efforts but it gives a good idea of what can be done in the idea of a possible video series. > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > This list is for discussion of topics related to the Indiana Pioneer > Cemeteries Restoration Project only.

In a message dated 9/11/01 8:00:44 AM US Eastern Standard Time, clugh_la@email.msn.com writes: > But I do love the trips. > L A > I do to, and would probably still make it if a seminar is held somewhere. A Video should be made at Connersville. That's where the Teacher comes from. Everything he has is where he keeps it. It's all in familiar surroundings, Why Not. I have told John more than once, he should be compensated for his Time. I consider anyone that has a Specialty should be Paid a Stipend. If he Travels he should receive more than Expenses. If not, that is playing on his good nature. Not many of us work for that. !! As I said, Hire a professional to make the Video and John can run the work and tell the Video person how he wants it done. He could also tour a couple of his Cemeteries and show different things that can be done, I'm sure in his own surroundings, without a crowd to distract him it would turn out great. I personally know what kind of a strain John is under out at A Seminar. He never feels he has did enough, no matter how much he does. I know I can sell Videos down here, no problem. We can still go to Seminars for that personal touch, but on a rainy day we could sit at home and learn valuable tips. Jack E. Briles Sr. Floyd County INPCRP Coordinator Po Box 444 New Albany, In. 47151-0444