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    1. [INPCRP] A slap in the face to Veterans?
    2. Ernie & Connie
    3. Hello All, This may be off topic since no one is buried there. If so, I apologize for posting this. Im Owensville, we have a beautiful monument, called the War Memorial by most, that was erected by the War Dads in 1945. It is a beautiful brick wall, standing over 8 feet tall and 20 feet wide, and lists all the names of the men and women from this area who served our country in all the wars. There is several hundred names on it. The Owensville Parks Board, in their infinite wisdom, decided to attach a rest room to the back side of this Memorial, using the brick wall of the Memorial as the back wall of the rest room! I hold the same respect for monuments and memorials that I do for the gravestones and markers that I work with in our Pioneer cemeteries. I feel that somehow this is a desecration of this Memorial to our Patriots, and a slap in the face to Veterans. Am I thinking wrong here? Is this different than a cemetery? Ernie

    10/08/2001 01:20:27
    1. [INPCRP] Re: Burning
    2. In a message dated 10/5/01 8:17:04 PM US Eastern Standard Time, oakl@javanet.com writes: > Jack, > After further thought, if burning is the only viable option I suggest > waiting for "winter kill" to flatten the grass then burn. With brooms or a > water sprayer burning could be kept at a distance from the stones. > Fred > > Fred you will have to direct that to the DNR, they are the ones who are > doing the Prescribed burnings in the cemeteries. My self personally, I > don't even smoke, much less burn cemeteries. But your idea is fine. > jb502000@aol.com (Jack Briles)

    10/07/2001 06:40:54
    1. [INPCRP] Madison workshop
    2. Chris McHenry
    3. The Dearborn County group just wants to say a great big "Thanks" to Lois. Walt, the Indiana Historical Society and everyone else involved for a super workshop. We all agreed we learned a whole lot and the time spent was well worth it. Everyone involved went home inspired to get busy and do more to save our pioneer cemeteries.Thanks again, Chris McHenry

    10/06/2001 02:13:44
    1. Re: [INPCRP] Hello all, I miss the country.
    2. Thanks for the info, but I don't want to move anywhere near the Fortville area. It's too close to Giest/Castelton. Right now Sugar Creek township is the fastest growing area of Hancock (so I have been told) but I believe the McCordsville/Fortville area will beat it soon. On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, G Tielking wrote: > Ryan, > Yes, a cemetery commission board ordinance was passed for Hancock Co. > (Finally!) They are still interviewing people for the 5 member board. > As for looking for a new home, it seems there are alot of homes for sale > around Fortville, Hancock Co. I don't know their price ranges, but you can > call a local realtor and they can help you. We are looking for a home as > well. Since it is the Mt. Vernon school district, I am sure the prices will > be higher. > Good luck house hunting! > Angela > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <rvkeller@iupui.edu> > To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:37 PM > Subject: [INPCRP] Hello all, I miss the country. > > > > Well, I know I have not been around much, but I have got a new job and it > > needs a lot of attention. I hope things are going good, especially in > > Hancock Co. I read the paper (Daily Reporter) before moving out and it > > said a Pioneer Cemetary board will be formed. Has this changed? I live > > in Broad Ripple and must say it's not all it's cracked up to be. I mostly > > hate the traffic, being able to walk to the clubs is nice though. I plan > > on moving back out into one of the surrounding counties, hopefully either > > Hancock or Shelby Co. over the summer. I would like to buy a home, but I > > don't know if I will be able to afford it or not. I would like to live in > > a small town and an older home. If anyone knows anyone that maybe selling > > a home like this around May/June time let me know. I am looking to spend > > $80-$100K, the lower the better. Talk to you all later, ryan > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > > Quote from William Gladstone (1809-1897), three-time Prime Minister of > England > > and Victorian contemporary of Benjamin Disraeli: > > "Show me the manner in which a nation or community > > cares for its dead and I will measure with mathematical > > exactness the tender mercies of its people, their > > respect for the laws of the land, and their loyalty > > to high ideals." > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > If we cannot respect the dead, how can we respect the living? > >

    10/06/2001 09:51:55
    1. [INPCRP] Final, final count on the petitions
    2. Lois Mauk
    3. Sue Roszell wrote me reminding me that Dr. Joan Schreiber of the Ball State University History Dept. was responsibile for getting a lot of Delaware Co.'s 225 petition signatures. She also wanted to recognize Robin Odle, Executive Director of the Delaware County Hisorical Alliance, who jumped on board very early in the game and continues to support their "baby steps" in Muncie. Sue, Joan and Robin: We really do appreciate your efforts. THANKS! I got the petitions bound this afternoon and they are ready for delivery tomorrow morning to Rep. Lytle at the Madison Workshop. We had some trouble squeezing all of them into a 2" binding. The final count as of 2 PM on Friday was 2,453!!!!! Mike and I went up to Madison this evening. We had a great dinner with the IHS organizers and some of the speakers. Katherine Dill reported that she has more than 70 paid registrations. (She was hoping for at least **50**!) The meeting room at the library in Madison is a nice big room and we should have a great "show" tomorrow. The rain is apparently GONE from Southern Indiana. (Better today than Saturday, right?) I'm looking forward to seeing many familiar faces and lots of new ones tomorrow. Hope to see you there. Lois

    10/05/2001 05:30:12
    1. [INPCRP] Ernie,Your Petitions Made it
    2. Ernie, I've known a lot of dedicated people on this List, but I believe you top them all. To pay $12.45 to get your Petitions here in time, makes you tops in my Book. Congratulations, I got them to Lois in time to be bound with all the others. Thanks Jack E. Briles Sr. Floyd County PCRP Coordinator Po Box 444 New Albany, In. 47151-0444 (812) 282-6585 Fax (812) 282-6585

    10/05/2001 09:19:22
    1. Re: [INPCRP] Re: INPCRP-D Digest V01 #340
    2. Brian Smead
    3. Great story, These students need to be commended and should be on this list. The trustee, Richard Shirey, needs to be cloned and also commended. Brian E. Smead Terre Haute, Indiana ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Roszell" <sroszell@localnet.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:03 AM Subject: [INPCRP] Re: INPCRP-D Digest V01 #340 > Listers: I wanted to let you know that our Ball State student members are getting > some well-deserved recognition in today's Daily News. Please take a look at the > front page on www.bsudailynews.com

    10/05/2001 09:12:10
    1. Re: [INPCRP] Request
    2. Lois Mauk
    3. Dear Dennis: First, we need to have an understanding of what you mean by REGISTERING a cemetery. There is a new state database being created by the DNR which will be a register of all the cemeteries and burial sites found in the state. That project was started earlier this year and is still in its infancy. Jeannie Regan-Dinius < JRdinius@dnr.state.in.us > is in charge of this database and you can contact her for additional information, the necessary forms, etc. (Be sure to include your mailing address when you write to Jeannie.) My concern is that you might believe that REGISTERING this cemetery will somehow impart to it some sort of "protection". That is not true. The key here is to fully research the ownership of the cemetery itself to determine its legal status. I'm presuming the cemetery is surrounded by private property, but that does not make the cemetery itself "private property". Only by researching the deed records back 100 years or so can you ascertain the property's true status. There is an excellent article by Marlene Mattox on the INPCRP website that makes a perfect primer on cemetery property research. I highly recommend you read this article to learn how to do this kind of investigation. The INPCRP website offers a good deal of useful information and this e-mail group can be invaluable to you as you pursue this matter. Your statement that the cemetery is maintained by family and is fenced leads me to believe that this site is in good condition. That's refreshing news around here. More than half your battle is already won! Please let us hear from you again soon. Lois ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Buerge" <denny@mail.inct.net> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 11:22 AM Subject: [INPCRP] Request > Hello to you all, > > Please advise exactly what I need to do to register a cemetery in LaGrange > County. It is an old family cemetery, with just a few graves, and is being > maintained by family. It is fenced in, with no new graves being added. > > Thank you, > > Dennis Buerge

    10/05/2001 05:55:23
    1. [INPCRP] Ball State University students studying cemetery
    2. Lois Mauk
    3. Dear Sue: Bravo to you and these Ball State University students!!! Mapping, documenting and recording the details of these cemeteries is critically important. It's so exciting to have young people enthusiastically involved in these projects. I've added the BSU Daily News story to the In the News page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~inpcrp/inthenews.html Lois ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Roszell" <sroszell@localnet.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 10:03 AM Subject: [INPCRP] Re: INPCRP-D Digest V01 #340 > Listers: I wanted to let you know that our Ball State student members are getting > some well-deserved recognition in today's Daily News. Please take a look at the > front page on www.bsudailynews.com >

    10/05/2001 05:41:47
    1. [INPCRP] Request
    2. Dennis Buerge
    3. Hello to you all, Please advise exactly what I need to do to register a cemetery in LaGrange County. It is an old family cemetery, with just a few graves, and is being maintained by family. It is fenced in, with no new graves being added. Thank you, Dennis Buerge

    10/05/2001 04:22:49
    1. [INPCRP] Re: INPCRP-D Digest V01 #340
    2. Sue Roszell
    3. Listers: I wanted to let you know that our Ball State student members are getting some well-deserved recognition in today's Daily News. Please take a look at the front page on www.bsudailynews.com INPCRP-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > INPCRP-D Digest Volume 01 : Issue 340 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [INPCRP] Putnam Co Cemeteries [Mary Baldwin <mjbaldwin0@yahoo.com] > #2 Re: [INPCRP] Still learning . . . [mills <mills@reliable-net.net>] > #3 [INPCRP] Parker Cemetery at St. Jo ["Lois Mauk" <loismauk@home.com>] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from INPCRP-D, send a message to > > INPCRP-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [INPCRP] Putnam Co Cemeteries > Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 17:29:02 -0700 (PDT) > From: Mary Baldwin <mjbaldwin0@yahoo.com> > To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com > > HI List, > In the Communique (Indiana Historical Society > Newsletter) I > There is article about Susan Huber who has worked > diligently to document the location of her counties > cemeteries (Putnam). > You can subscribe to Communique with email addressed > to crendfeld@indianahistory.org In the body of message > write something like 'please subscribe me to > COMMUNIQUE ONLINE', and be sure to indicate the name > of the local history organization you belong to. > Anyone can subscribe, board, staff, volunteers, or > even individual members of your organization. There is > no fee. > Mary J. Baldwin > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Still learning . . . > Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 19:38:15 -0400 > From: mills <mills@reliable-net.net> > To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com > > Lisa, > > You may discover which company provided those stones by reading the probate > records, including receipts, of one of the deceased. The executor(trix) > may have provided documentation of an expense to the estate. In one > instance, I found this information in a probate record for a gr gr gr uncle > in Montgomery Co. His widow, also my relative, sent off to Lafayette for > stones for her late husband and children who died young. The stones were > delivered by rail. Over 120 years later they were recovered, broken into > tiny pieces in a cow pasture. Currently they (and about 25 other stones) > are being fitted back together like puzzle pieces. > > Another reason for searching: the original size of the stones and > information about footstones will be included in the information. That way > you can learn if this is one of those old slab stones that was buried deep > without a base. > > Sharon Mills > > At 09:49 AM 10/3/01 -0500, you wrote: > > Thank you (!) to Ernie and Kyle for the advice. I had no idea what I > >did was actually illegal, I was just concerned that I might have damaged the > >gravesite somehow. I have been to that cemetery a total of seven times now > >and have never seen anyone else there, which is too bad because it is a > >lovely cemetery. About the stone: I saw no base at all beneath the > >headstone, and the stone itself is only about a foot tall and maybe a foot > >and a half wide. Thanks also for the links, I'll look into making a base > >for it. This is my g-g-grandmother's grave, and all the stones of her > >relatives in that area look just like hers, leading me to believe they were > >all carved by the same person/company. I really want to make sure they > >don't deteriorate any more than they already have. > > Thanks again, I'm having so much fun learning about all of this! > > Lisa > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Ernie & Connie" <elasley@sigecom.net> > >To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 5:40 PM > >Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Still learning . . . > > > > > >> Hello Lisa, > >> > >> Gently dig around the stone to see if it is set in a square base with a > >> slot, or if it is a long stone set several inches into the ground. If it > >> is a square base with a slot, dig around it until you have exposed enough > >> of it to level it, then pack good dirt, sand or pea gravel under and > >around > >> it. If it is a long slab buried into the ground (usually 14" to 18"), > >> expose enough of it so you can stand it upright easily. Be careful not to > >> force it, the small flat stones may snap easily. If it resists standing > >> upright, dig a little deeper. Once you have it standing upright, pack a > >> mixture of sand and pea gravel around it. Tamp well, and fill the last 3" > >> to 4" with dirt or sod. > >> If it is a short stone (less than 12"under ground) it should have a base > >> with a slot. If the base is missing, you can find instructions to make a > >> new one here: > >> > >> http://www.gravestonestudies.org/preservation.htm > >> > >> There is lots of helpful information on the INPRCP website here: > >> > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~inpcrp/pcrpstepbystep.html > >> > >> If you have more questions, by all means please ask! There are many on > >> this list that will be happy to assist in any way they can. We may enen > >> have a member near Mt. Meridian who would be willing to come over and > >help. > >> > >> Ernie Lasley, Coordinator > >> Gibson County PCRP > >> PCRP page: http://members.sigecom.net/elasley/inpcrp/index.html > >> Cemetery page: http://www.usroots.com/~jmurphy/gibson/gibcem/gibcem.htm > >> > >> > >> > >> At 12:27 PM 10/2/01, you wrote: > >> >the trouble being that the headstone had fallen forward and sunken into > >> >the ground slightly, hiding the name. What is the proper thing to do > >when > >> >this happens? I gently pried it up, and "propped" it up by pushing some > >> >of the surrounding dirt underneath the front of the stone (it is a very > >> >small, hand-carved one). > >> >Should I have left the stone the way that it was, or was this ok to do? > >> >Thanks for any advice you can give-- > >> > Lisa > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > >> >This list is for discussion of topics related to the Indiana Pioneer > >> >Cemeteries Restoration Project only. > >> > >> > >> ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > >> If we cannot respect the dead, how can we respect the living? > >> > >> > > > > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > >This list is for discussion of topics related to the Indiana Pioneer > >Cemeteries Restoration Project only. > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [INPCRP] Parker Cemetery at St. Joe Center Road in Ft. Wayne, IN > Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 00:15:52 -0400 > From: "Lois Mauk" <loismauk@home.com> > To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com > > Thanks to Ruth Pride for alerting us to Tuesday's story about plans proposed > to move 70 graves at Parker Cemetery in Ft. Wayne: > > http://web.news-sentinel.com/content/fwnews/2001/10/02/metro/a02r_stjoecente > r_pg1a.htm > > (If this URL breaks onto more than one line, you may have to paste it back > together in your browser window or access it from the INPCRP "In the News" > page). > > Lois

    10/05/2001 04:03:12
    1. Re: [INPCRP] Parker Cemetery at St. Joe Center Road in Ft. Wayne, IN
    2. I agree, the job of bringing this fact to people's knowledge is maybe our most important..Many people say " I can't believe this" when told what goes on in our state's cemeteries. As in the course of a day's work and raising familes,paying bills,we tend to forget the ones who paved the path to what we have today...another reason not to allow new paths to cross their burial places.......

    10/05/2001 03:33:56
    1. Re: [INPCRP] Parker Cemetery at St. Joe Center Road in Ft. Wayne, IN
    2. In a message dated 10/5/01 7:08:19 AM US Eastern Standard Time, djd434@rnetinc.net writes: > I agree we on the list care, but I think that's because we on the list may > be the only ones who are aware of what has been happening to cemeteries. Debra, Unfortunately we on the List are not the only ones who know what is happening. Many here in Floyd County are very much aware. But like most they say it's terrible, but they don't want to offer any of their time to help me try to correct any of the problems, or even get involved in trying to stop the movement. Some have said "I hate to see a cemetery moved", but I understand they bought the ground for a house or Commercial Building and they have no choice but to move the Cemetery. This is not a valid argument. I disagree, it was known to be there and the plans should be drawn up to include the small Family Burial site, or look for another site to build on. Here we have Developers buy ground and say they didn't know the Cemetery was there. They should get their money back for the Abstract, because the company that ran it was incompetent. But here in Floyd County I know that is a lamebrained excuse for moving the cemetery, by pleading ignorance. You would think a company that spent almost a million dollars for property would know what kind of obstruction was on the site. As far as the Laws are concerned, I don't see any signs of enforcement. You can take Photographs of an illegal operation and send the information in and all that happens is "I'll get back with you" There should be some kind of news release noting that Action either was taken, or Action was avoided because the Deliberate violation of the Law was avoided. Developers, Farmers, Individuals and others just plead Ignorance. And the matter is dropped. As far as Cemetery Laws a lot of people mistakenly believe there is Laws that actually protect cemeteries. Under the IC Codes the Laws look good, but in actuality they don't mean much. It's going to take people like yourself and a lot of others to get this changed. I personally can't write or complain enough by my self to do a Plugged nickels worth of good. Debra, lets keep up the fight, keep the pressure on and maybe someday the Legislature will be forced by all of us to Listen. More can be done. And don't keep believing because of a veteran being buried in a cemetery, everything will be ok. Hang in there, Jack E. Briles Sr. Floyd County PCRP Coordinator Po Box 444 New Albany, In. 47151-0444 (812) 282-6585 Fax (812) 282-6585

    10/05/2001 03:18:49
    1. Re: [INPCRP] Parker Cemetery at St. Joe Center Road in Ft. Wayne, IN
    2. Debra Dougherty
    3. Jack, I agree we on the list care, but I think that's because we on the list may be the only ones who are aware of what has been happening to cemeteries. I found this website and joined this list after I found my own family cemetery that had been "bulldozed by a farmer". Every single person I talked to about signing the "checkers" petition was shocked to hear what I was telling them, ("I just assumed it was always against the law.") just as shocked as I was to discover that anyone would intentionally destroy a cemetery. I'm not stupid, but I was ignorant. I apologize for that. Debra Dougherty Martinsville, IN ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jb502000@aol.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Parker Cemetery at St. Joe Center Road in Ft. Wayne, IN > In a message dated 10/4/01 4:17:57 PM US Eastern Standard Time, > bsmead@gte.net writes: > > > > Lois, this is nothing new in Indiana, as we all know. I've been by Parker > > cemetery many times and knew that this would happen sooner or later. > > Brian, > That's what makes our job so Important. But at times I believe we on the > List are the only ones who care. We keep working on the Cemetery Laws, but > others that want them moved have more money and power than we do. The only > advantage I can see in the DNR Data Base is that we will know where all of > our cemeteries were at one time in the past. If that's a great consolation to > you. Originally at a meeting with Rep. Lytle at The Falls of The Ohio > Interpretive Center, we discussed all of this, and I was under the Impression > that by recording the cemeteries, we would be protecting them. WELL SO MUCH > FOR THAT. They are going at a faster rate now then they were before the New > Laws were passed. The only difference is like I said, at least when we are > finished we will know where they were. We won't know where they went maybe, > but at least the old Location will be known. > I also would like to know how many individuals have signed up to > have one acre Surveyed, Fenced and recorded to save the Taxes on one acre of > Land in the southern part of the State where the ground is not Tillable I > don't include Coal, Oil, or large Farming operations. I mean the small > Property owner. If I said what I am feeling, this could go on, but I can only > say so much before I get Mad. Brian, I understand how you feel, and I know we > can't stop all Cemetery movements, but Darn, we should be able to stop one. > Sorry, > > > Jack E. Briles Sr. > Floyd County PCRP Coordinator > Po Box 444 > New Albany, In. 47151-0444 > (812) 282-6585 > Fax (812) 282-6585 > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know. > > >

    10/05/2001 01:13:05
    1. Re: [INPCRP] For the cover the Petitions book
    2. Lois Mauk
    3. Dear Angela: Thanks for the accolades. I appreciate the kind words but I don't do much myself. Nothing compared to what I would like to do. It's all of YOU that are doing the hard work. What little I can accomplish is what I can do sitting at my computer in my jammies in the middle of the night. I don't get to get my hands dirty very often! (Working 50 to 60 hours a week in a lunatic job will do that to you!) I wish I was able to do heavy physical work or had a talent for doing stone repairs. I'm too old and too out of shape to be of much use "in the yard". I can't lift much of anything and I try real hard to just "get out of the way". My clumsiness in cemeteries is pretty much legendary and I'm still recovering from whacking my leg on a bridge in search of a hidden cemetery this past summer. I am pretty good at tearing duct tape and fetching stuff though. :-) I guess we all have special "gifts", huh? Again, thanks, but it's YOU GUYS who deserve the congratulations. Lois

    10/04/2001 06:23:17
    1. Re: [INPCRP] Parker Cemetery at St. Joe Center Road in Ft. Wayne, IN
    2. In a message dated 10/4/01 4:17:57 PM US Eastern Standard Time, bsmead@gte.net writes: > Lois, this is nothing new in Indiana, as we all know. I've been by Parker > cemetery many times and knew that this would happen sooner or later. Brian, That's what makes our job so Important. But at times I believe we on the List are the only ones who care. We keep working on the Cemetery Laws, but others that want them moved have more money and power than we do. The only advantage I can see in the DNR Data Base is that we will know where all of our cemeteries were at one time in the past. If that's a great consolation to you. Originally at a meeting with Rep. Lytle at The Falls of The Ohio Interpretive Center, we discussed all of this, and I was under the Impression that by recording the cemeteries, we would be protecting them. WELL SO MUCH FOR THAT. They are going at a faster rate now then they were before the New Laws were passed. The only difference is like I said, at least when we are finished we will know where they were. We won't know where they went maybe, but at least the old Location will be known. I also would like to know how many individuals have signed up to have one acre Surveyed, Fenced and recorded to save the Taxes on one acre of Land in the southern part of the State where the ground is not Tillable I don't include Coal, Oil, or large Farming operations. I mean the small Property owner. If I said what I am feeling, this could go on, but I can only say so much before I get Mad. Brian, I understand how you feel, and I know we can't stop all Cemetery movements, but Darn, we should be able to stop one. Sorry, Jack E. Briles Sr. Floyd County PCRP Coordinator Po Box 444 New Albany, In. 47151-0444 (812) 282-6585 Fax (812) 282-6585

    10/04/2001 06:13:51
    1. Re: [INPCRP] For the cover the Petitions book
    2. G Tielking
    3. Lois, You are TOO hard on yourself. WE appreciate you so much! Angela Tielking ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lois Mauk" <loismauk@home.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [INPCRP] For the cover the Petitions book > Dear Angela: > > Thanks for the accolades. I appreciate the kind words but I don't do much > myself. Nothing compared to what I would like to do. It's all of YOU that > are doing the hard work. What little I can accomplish is what I can do > sitting at my computer in my jammies in the middle of the night. I don't > get to get my hands dirty very often! (Working 50 to 60 hours a week in a > lunatic job will do that to you!) > > I wish I was able to do heavy physical work or had a talent for doing stone > repairs. I'm too old and too out of shape to be of much use "in the yard". > I can't lift much of anything and I try real hard to just "get out of the > way". My clumsiness in cemeteries is pretty much legendary and I'm still > recovering from whacking my leg on a bridge in search of a hidden cemetery > this past summer. > > I am pretty good at tearing duct tape and fetching stuff though. :-) I > guess we all have special "gifts", huh? > > Again, thanks, but it's YOU GUYS who deserve the congratulations. > > Lois > > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Please do not send queries through this list.

    10/04/2001 05:49:05
    1. [INPCRP] For the cover the Petitions book
    2. Lois Mauk
    3. The following is what I have drafted for the cover of the book of petition signatures that I'm having bound tomorrow morning. I'd appreciate hearing your comments. Lois ===================== Let's stop playing checkers with our pioneer cemeteries! [GRAPHIC OF A CHECKERBOARD] In this book are 2,372 signatures (2,137 from Indiana residents and 235 from other states) from citizens who ask the Indiana Legislature to overhaul statutes that currently make the dismantling and relocation of pioneer cemeteries in Indiana too easy and a "first choice" option when development and preservation issues clash. Under current law, a developer is not required to offer even cursory proof of ownership before obtaining an Order to Disinter from a County Court. There is little or no opportunity for members of the public to object as these Orders to Disinter are routinely signed within hours of being filed with the Courts. Moving pioneer family cemeteries is seldom, if ever, "in the best interest" of the public or the men, women and children buried there. It is almost always of GREAT financial benefit to real estate developers who hope to rid themselves of cemeteries they view as nothing more than a nuisance or obstacle to what they consider "the highest and best possible use" of coveted real estate. THANK YOU. Indiana Pioneer Cemeteries Restoration Project

    10/04/2001 05:22:16
    1. Re: [INPCRP] For the cover the Petitions book
    2. G Tielking
    3. Lois, I like the cover letter just fine. I want to thank you for all that you do. Between balancing a career, family and the INPCRP website, I know you are very busy. I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate all the hard work that you do and how important you are to us on the list. With my deepest gratitude and respect, Angela Tielking ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lois Mauk" <loismauk@home.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:22 PM Subject: [INPCRP] For the cover the Petitions book > The following is what I have drafted for the cover of the book of petition > signatures that I'm having bound tomorrow morning. I'd appreciate hearing > your comments. > Lois > ===================== > > Let's stop playing checkers > with our > pioneer cemeteries! > > [GRAPHIC OF A CHECKERBOARD] > > In this book are 2,372 signatures (2,137 from Indiana residents and 235 from > other states) from citizens who ask the Indiana Legislature to overhaul > statutes that currently make the dismantling and relocation of pioneer > cemeteries in Indiana too easy and a "first choice" option when development > and preservation issues clash. > > Under current law, a developer is not required to offer even cursory proof > of ownership before obtaining an Order to Disinter from a County Court. > There is little or no opportunity for members of the public to object as > these Orders to Disinter are routinely signed within hours of being filed > with the Courts. > > Moving pioneer family cemeteries is seldom, if ever, "in the best interest" > of the public or the men, women and children buried there. It is almost > always of GREAT financial benefit to real estate developers who hope to rid > themselves of cemeteries they view as nothing more than a nuisance or > obstacle to what they consider "the highest and best possible use" of > coveted real estate. > > THANK YOU. > Indiana Pioneer Cemeteries Restoration Project > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > THIS IS A CEMETERY ----- > "Lives are commemorated - deaths are recorded - families > are reunited - memories are made tangible - and love is > undisguised. This is a cemetery. > "Communities accord respect, families bestow reverence, > historians seek information and our heritage is thereby enriched. > "Testimonies of devotion, pride and remembrance are carved > in stone to pay warm tribute to accomplishments and to the life - > not the death - of a loved one. The cemetery is homeland for family > memorials that are a sustaining source of comfort to the living. > "A cemetery is a history of people - a perpetual record of > yesterday and sanctuary of peace and quiet today. A cemetery > exists because every life is worth loving and remembering - always." > --Author unknown -- Seen at a monument dealer in West Union, IA

    10/04/2001 05:18:42
    1. Re: [INPCRP] Rush Co.
    2. G Tielking
    3. Diana, You can do it! You are already on the right track. Good luck! Angela Tielking ----- Original Message ----- From: "wmmahan" <wmmahan@comsys.net> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:38 PM Subject: [INPCRP] Rush Co. > I met last night with the Rush Co. Historical Preservation group. There were about 20 people there. They were very interested in what was going on with the new laws and the States registration of the Cemeteries. I told them of wanting to get Jennie from DNR here to explain it all. Most of the group said they would come to that kind of meeting. > > I, also, talked to them about the Cemetery commission and the Pres. of the group seemed very interested in getting that going in this county. If I can get this group interested maybe it will not be to hard to get the county commissioners to set up a cemetery commission here. I took copies of what Lois had posted about Henry Co. & Newton Co.'s commissions. Also the list she has on the Web site about what some of the other counties are doing. All present was quit interested and there was even one of the county commissioners there. > > I think it was a good night. So keep your fingers crossed. Rush Co. may get a cemetery commission yet. Diana > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of > "UNSUBSCRIBE" to INPCRP-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > or to INPCRP-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com (for DIGEST version)

    10/04/2001 05:08:52