In a message dated 1/12/02 5:09:03 PM US Eastern Standard Time, sianoil@hotmail.com writes: > You are right, Jack. If you have to babysit them, you > might as well do it yourself. And then somebody is liable to call foul. And > Sue, as far as our Sheriff, he's not ashamed to take his right up on top of > the table. Where everyone sees it. Clips over $125,000.00 a year after he > gets done skimming the prisoner's meal money. We have a dozen people > running > for Sheriff this year. Wonder why? > Jon > > Jon, That Meal Skimming has been a big thing here to. I was 40 years old and knew every Law officer in the county and didn't know that. How I heard about it was a fellow told me, you could have Coffee and 1 fresh donught, or 2 stale ones. If this law passes lets see how many Sheriff's will go for it. They would have to fix Brown Bag Lunches that would look good in case the public saw what the prisoners, or service workers ate. Jack

It is sad that these sheriff's that you mention are not interested in working these men and women that are confined. They can get a lot of political mileage out of these types of special projects. Someone should try to convince these elected officials how good these types of projects are for their election and re-elections. I work for the California Department of Corrections. Even though these Wardens are not elected they willingly provide work crews and each year they adopt a Cemetery, School, Park etc and compete with other work crews for the best looking work produced. The inmates take a lot of pride in their work. Most of them have not worked to any degree in their lives and they are really impressed with themselves and what they can produce. They even cut fire wood for indigent seniors and shovel snow from overloaded public and private buildings. These men and women are first classified by their type of crime. No sex offenders, No Arsonists, No lifers, and No violent offenders. So what you end up with are mostly minor drug offenders and property crime offenders. They also take people with smaller sentences left to serve so they are less likely to want to run off while out on public service crews. Most of these crews are about 8-10 in size they bring their own tools so there are no exchanges with the public except for maybe words or looks. Usually they have secured an older surplus military or school bus. They pull a trailer with a chemical toilet mounted on it. These items are usually surplus so the cost is lower. All the Sheriff needs do is supply the security and the inmates to the above and he looks as good to the public as his crews do in their work. I know that this is over simplified in word but believe me these Elected and appointed officials are well thought of. The better they are thought of the more and better the work becomes and re elections and appointments are almost assured. The big winner in this is scenario is the public. They actually get something out of the moneys they pay in taxes. Every year the waiting list grows with requests for public services. The hard part-getting to convince the officials in your area that this is something they will also benefit from. Just for information we are to be recieving a couple of new crews in a couple of years. A new federal prison is locating here and they have a procedure to supply work crews for public projects too. I Know there is a Federal Prison in Terre Haute maybe they have a program in place for community work crews. Don Huffman crfordy@citlink.net

Oh, I forgot to tell you that the biggest reason for not working these people is that they have families to support and need real jobs that pay money. Darn, so do I. You are right, Jack. If you have to babysit them, you might as well do it yourself. And then somebody is liable to call foul. And Sue, as far as our Sheriff, he's not ashamed to take his right up on top of the table. Where everyone sees it. Clips over $125,000.00 a year after he gets done skimming the prisoner's meal money. We have a dozen people running for Sheriff this year. Wonder why? Jon >From: "Sue Silver" <ssilver1951@jps.net> >Reply-To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com >To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [INPCRP] House Bill 1189 >Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 15:00:18 -0800 > >Jon, > >Our state Department of Forestry has inmate crews available from the inmate >firefighters. We asked for a crew at the cemetery where I am sexton and >they were perfectly willing to help but we did have to provide a >porta-potty. It cost us $52.00 and we had 15 men for seven full days. It >was the best $52.00 we ever spent! > >Sounds to me like your sheriff probably gets something under the table to >assist him in deciding which projects to undertake with the inmate crew. > >We have sheriff's "Work Release" inmates where they go into the Sheriff's >dept. and then they are taken to the place of their assignment. Our county >inmate crews are strictly from that source. The inmates housed in the jail >are not released for project work at all. It is a separate program for the >low risk convicted persons. Ability to serve on a work release program is >approved by the judge and the sheriff. > >A specific program like this might benefit the county's and if the state >could be convinced to provide start up funding, the inmates who work on our >work release program actually have to pay to be on it! > >Seems to me we just have to keep trying until we find something that will >work. > >Sue Silver >CA >----- Original Message ----- >From: "jon andrews" <sianoil@hotmail.com> >To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 2:28 PM >Subject: Re: [INPCRP] House Bill 1189 > > > > Let me tell you how far this will go in Knox County. Four years ago a >judge > > ordered in a settlement agreement between the County Cemetery Commission >and > > the County Commissioners, etal the use of work release to help clean > > cemeteries. To date, there has been no such help. The sheriff's office, >who > > oversees the program refuses to help. Their excuse is we would have to >bus > > them out there at 8:00, give them lunch, bus them back and with there > > required breaks and all along with the fact that we cannot provide the > > inmate a public restroom facility, they would probably not accomplish >much. > > Also, nobody wants these people on their property, so let's not rock the > > boat. So, have at it elsewhere but we've tried it with no success. >Unless, > > the public who votes wants their streets cleaned or Christmas lights put >up, > > forget the help of work release. I frankly think we could tie them to a > > headstone like a goat and let them graze out there in the hot sun. And >as > > far as restroom facilities, we generally use a tree. > > Jon Andrews > > > > > > >From: "Lois Mauk" <loismauk@home.com> > > >Reply-To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: [INPCRP] House Bill 1189 > > >Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 01:33:44 -0500 > > > > > >I've been searching through the legislation introduced this week in the > > >current session of the Indiana General Assembly for something >addressing > > >our > > >concerns about the portability of pioneer cemeteries. Haven't found > > >anything yet, but the following bill caught my eye: > > > > > >House Bill 1189 > > > > > >Introduced by Representative Sturtz > > > > > >Status: 1/10/2002 -- First reading: referred to Committee on Judiciary > > > > > >SUMMARY: > > > > > >County inmate work crews. Allows a county sheriff to establish an >inmate > > >work program. Specifies inmate eligibility requirements and requires > > >inmates > > >to dress in distinctive county jail uniforms while performing work on > > >crews. > > >Allows a sheriff to require a crew to perform any work the sheriff > > >determines to be appropriate and of benefit to the community except for > > >public work (as defined in the public works projects law). > > >==================================== > > > > > >See http://www.state.in.us/serv/lsa_billinfo for additional info on HB > > >1189. > > > > > >We've had GREAT success with the use of inmate labor crews provided to >us > > >by > > >Clark Co. Sheriff Mike Becher. Perhaps a statute such as this is what >is > > >needed to encourage other Sheriffs to follow suite. > > > > > >This bill is now before the House Judiciary Committee. The members of >that > > >committee are: > > > > > >Chair: Representative Sturtz > > >Vice Chair: Representative Tincher > > >Members: Bardon; C. Brown; Cochran; Dvorak; Frenz; Kuzman. Foley, >R.M.M.; > > >Dumezich; Munson; Steele; Torr; Ulmer. > > > > > >in case you want to contact any of them to express your support for >this > > >bill. See http://www.IN.gov/legislative/legislators/ for contact > > >information. > > > > > >Lois > > > > > > > > > > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > > >If we cannot respect the dead, how can we respect the living? > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > > THIS IS A CEMETERY ----- > > "Lives are commemorated - deaths are recorded - families > > are reunited - memories are made tangible - and love is > > undisguised. This is a cemetery. > > "Communities accord respect, families bestow reverence, > > historians seek information and our heritage is thereby enriched. > > "Testimonies of devotion, pride and remembrance are carved > > in stone to pay warm tribute to accomplishments and to the life - > > not the death - of a loved one. The cemetery is homeland for family > > memorials that are a sustaining source of comfort to the living. > > "A cemetery is a history of people - a perpetual record of > > yesterday and sanctuary of peace and quiet today. A cemetery > > exists because every life is worth loving and remembering - always." > > --Author unknown -- Seen at a monument dealer in West Union, >IA > > > > > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >Quote from William Gladstone (1809-1897), three-time Prime Minister of >England >and Victorian contemporary of Benjamin Disraeli: > "Show me the manner in which a nation or community > cares for its dead and I will measure with mathematical > exactness the tender mercies of its people, their > respect for the laws of the land, and their loyalty > to high ideals." > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

I don't have any information on speakers, etc., but the Berrien Co. (Michigan) Genealogical Society is presenting a Cemetery Restoration Workshop on 3/16/2002. Looks like Berrien Springs, MI is about 25 miles NORTH of South Bend. The cost is $10 (no lunch provided). For additional info, see: http://w3.qtm.net/bcgensoc/WorkshopInfo.htm or contact Dale & Cindy Frie at bcgensoc@qtm.net Lois ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale J & Cindy Frie" <bcgensoc@qtm.net> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 9:32 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} Berrien CO, MI Cemetery Preservation Workshop > The Berrien County Genealogical Society is presenting a Cemetery > Preservation Workshop on March 16, 2002. If you would like to find out more > about our sessions or register for this event click on the address below, > then scroll down to events. It will take you to our events page. > > > Cindy L. (Skiles) Frie > Please visit the Berrien County Genealogy Society website > http://w3.qtm.net/bcgensoc/index.htm > > > > >

In a message dated 1/11/02 5:30:21 PM US Eastern Standard Time, sianoil@hotmail.com writes: > The sheriff's office, who > oversees the program refuses to help. Their excuse is we would have to bus > them out there at 8:00, give them lunch, bus them back and with there > required breaks and all along with the fact that we cannot provide the > inmate a public restroom facility, they would probably not accomplish much Jon, The Floyd Co. sheriff gets paid the same each day for a prisoner whether he is in his cell or out working. His escape record will be perfect if they stay in the cell They told me they have no such policy, no matter how meek the prisoner is. The community service officer for corrections came out 1 day. got there at 10:15 left 1:15. I was promised 4 men and got one. I was promised Comm. Ser. Helpers 4 times, no show. I had to be there to get them out, and then on the one where they showed up, I had to hire me a helper to finish raking the leaves that were left in piles to blow back over the cemetery. The Law sounds good, but so does all the rest we have seen in the last 2 years. The DNR has no arresting powers unless you spotlight a deer. If a cemetery law is Broken you report to the DNR, then you go file charges with the County Prosecutor on your own. Tell him you have reported it, then si back and wait. For what, when??? Jack E Briles, Sr.

Let me tell you how far this will go in Knox County. Four years ago a judge ordered in a settlement agreement between the County Cemetery Commission and the County Commissioners, etal the use of work release to help clean cemeteries. To date, there has been no such help. The sheriff's office, who oversees the program refuses to help. Their excuse is we would have to bus them out there at 8:00, give them lunch, bus them back and with there required breaks and all along with the fact that we cannot provide the inmate a public restroom facility, they would probably not accomplish much. Also, nobody wants these people on their property, so let's not rock the boat. So, have at it elsewhere but we've tried it with no success. Unless, the public who votes wants their streets cleaned or Christmas lights put up, forget the help of work release. I frankly think we could tie them to a headstone like a goat and let them graze out there in the hot sun. And as far as restroom facilities, we generally use a tree. Jon Andrews >From: "Lois Mauk" <loismauk@home.com> >Reply-To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com >To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [INPCRP] House Bill 1189 >Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 01:33:44 -0500 > >I've been searching through the legislation introduced this week in the >current session of the Indiana General Assembly for something addressing >our >concerns about the portability of pioneer cemeteries. Haven't found >anything yet, but the following bill caught my eye: > >House Bill 1189 > >Introduced by Representative Sturtz > >Status: 1/10/2002 -- First reading: referred to Committee on Judiciary > >SUMMARY: > >County inmate work crews. Allows a county sheriff to establish an inmate >work program. Specifies inmate eligibility requirements and requires >inmates >to dress in distinctive county jail uniforms while performing work on >crews. >Allows a sheriff to require a crew to perform any work the sheriff >determines to be appropriate and of benefit to the community except for >public work (as defined in the public works projects law). >==================================== > >See http://www.state.in.us/serv/lsa_billinfo for additional info on HB >1189. > >We've had GREAT success with the use of inmate labor crews provided to us >by >Clark Co. Sheriff Mike Becher. Perhaps a statute such as this is what is >needed to encourage other Sheriffs to follow suite. > >This bill is now before the House Judiciary Committee. The members of that >committee are: > >Chair: Representative Sturtz >Vice Chair: Representative Tincher >Members: Bardon; C. Brown; Cochran; Dvorak; Frenz; Kuzman. Foley, R.M.M.; >Dumezich; Munson; Steele; Torr; Ulmer. > >in case you want to contact any of them to express your support for this >bill. See http://www.IN.gov/legislative/legislators/ for contact >information. > >Lois > > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >If we cannot respect the dead, how can we respect the living? > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

Jon, Our state Department of Forestry has inmate crews available from the inmate firefighters. We asked for a crew at the cemetery where I am sexton and they were perfectly willing to help but we did have to provide a porta-potty. It cost us $52.00 and we had 15 men for seven full days. It was the best $52.00 we ever spent! Sounds to me like your sheriff probably gets something under the table to assist him in deciding which projects to undertake with the inmate crew. We have sheriff's "Work Release" inmates where they go into the Sheriff's dept. and then they are taken to the place of their assignment. Our county inmate crews are strictly from that source. The inmates housed in the jail are not released for project work at all. It is a separate program for the low risk convicted persons. Ability to serve on a work release program is approved by the judge and the sheriff. A specific program like this might benefit the county's and if the state could be convinced to provide start up funding, the inmates who work on our work release program actually have to pay to be on it! Seems to me we just have to keep trying until we find something that will work. Sue Silver CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "jon andrews" <sianoil@hotmail.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [INPCRP] House Bill 1189 > Let me tell you how far this will go in Knox County. Four years ago a judge > ordered in a settlement agreement between the County Cemetery Commission and > the County Commissioners, etal the use of work release to help clean > cemeteries. To date, there has been no such help. The sheriff's office, who > oversees the program refuses to help. Their excuse is we would have to bus > them out there at 8:00, give them lunch, bus them back and with there > required breaks and all along with the fact that we cannot provide the > inmate a public restroom facility, they would probably not accomplish much. > Also, nobody wants these people on their property, so let's not rock the > boat. So, have at it elsewhere but we've tried it with no success. Unless, > the public who votes wants their streets cleaned or Christmas lights put up, > forget the help of work release. I frankly think we could tie them to a > headstone like a goat and let them graze out there in the hot sun. And as > far as restroom facilities, we generally use a tree. > Jon Andrews > > > >From: "Lois Mauk" <loismauk@home.com> > >Reply-To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com > >To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [INPCRP] House Bill 1189 > >Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 01:33:44 -0500 > > > >I've been searching through the legislation introduced this week in the > >current session of the Indiana General Assembly for something addressing > >our > >concerns about the portability of pioneer cemeteries. Haven't found > >anything yet, but the following bill caught my eye: > > > >House Bill 1189 > > > >Introduced by Representative Sturtz > > > >Status: 1/10/2002 -- First reading: referred to Committee on Judiciary > > > >SUMMARY: > > > >County inmate work crews. Allows a county sheriff to establish an inmate > >work program. Specifies inmate eligibility requirements and requires > >inmates > >to dress in distinctive county jail uniforms while performing work on > >crews. > >Allows a sheriff to require a crew to perform any work the sheriff > >determines to be appropriate and of benefit to the community except for > >public work (as defined in the public works projects law). > >==================================== > > > >See http://www.state.in.us/serv/lsa_billinfo for additional info on HB > >1189. > > > >We've had GREAT success with the use of inmate labor crews provided to us > >by > >Clark Co. Sheriff Mike Becher. Perhaps a statute such as this is what is > >needed to encourage other Sheriffs to follow suite. > > > >This bill is now before the House Judiciary Committee. The members of that > >committee are: > > > >Chair: Representative Sturtz > >Vice Chair: Representative Tincher > >Members: Bardon; C. Brown; Cochran; Dvorak; Frenz; Kuzman. Foley, R.M.M.; > >Dumezich; Munson; Steele; Torr; Ulmer. > > > >in case you want to contact any of them to express your support for this > >bill. See http://www.IN.gov/legislative/legislators/ for contact > >information. > > > >Lois > > > > > > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > >If we cannot respect the dead, how can we respect the living? > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > THIS IS A CEMETERY ----- > "Lives are commemorated - deaths are recorded - families > are reunited - memories are made tangible - and love is > undisguised. This is a cemetery. > "Communities accord respect, families bestow reverence, > historians seek information and our heritage is thereby enriched. > "Testimonies of devotion, pride and remembrance are carved > in stone to pay warm tribute to accomplishments and to the life - > not the death - of a loved one. The cemetery is homeland for family > memorials that are a sustaining source of comfort to the living. > "A cemetery is a history of people - a perpetual record of > yesterday and sanctuary of peace and quiet today. A cemetery > exists because every life is worth loving and remembering - always." > --Author unknown -- Seen at a monument dealer in West Union, IA > >

I have sent the follow email to Rep. Dale Sturtz. Re: SUPPORT - House Bill 1189 Dear Representative Sturtz: Though we are not residents of Indiana, we would like to commend you on the introduction of HB 1189. In California, many county inmate crews and some state prison crews are able to work at projects that significantly assist our local communities. Among the inmate crew assignments is the cleaning of local community cemeteries which have no other means of being maintained. In Sacramento, the Old City Cemetery has been wonderfully restored through the use of inmate crews from the Sacramento County Sheriff's office. Without the inmate labor, this cemetery would have remained an eyesore and insult to the people of California. We believe HB 1189 has the potential to allow such services to the many historic cemeteries in Indiana which the Indiana Pioneer Cemeteries Restoration Project members presently struggle to care for. We would encourage you to amend the language of HB 1189 to specifically allow inmate crews to work on historic cemetery clean up and, possibly, repairs. Respectfully, Sue Silver, President El Dorado County Pioneer Cemeteries Commission 2551 Deer Trail Lane Cameron Park, CA 95682 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lois Mauk" <loismauk@home.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:33 PM Subject: [INPCRP] House Bill 1189 > I've been searching through the legislation introduced this week in the > current session of the Indiana General Assembly for something addressing our > concerns about the portability of pioneer cemeteries. Haven't found > anything yet, but the following bill caught my eye: > > House Bill 1189 > > Introduced by Representative Sturtz > > Status: 1/10/2002 -- First reading: referred to Committee on Judiciary > > SUMMARY: > > County inmate work crews. Allows a county sheriff to establish an inmate > work program. Specifies inmate eligibility requirements and requires inmates > to dress in distinctive county jail uniforms while performing work on crews. > Allows a sheriff to require a crew to perform any work the sheriff > determines to be appropriate and of benefit to the community except for > public work (as defined in the public works projects law). > ==================================== > > See http://www.state.in.us/serv/lsa_billinfo for additional info on HB 1189. > > We've had GREAT success with the use of inmate labor crews provided to us by > Clark Co. Sheriff Mike Becher. Perhaps a statute such as this is what is > needed to encourage other Sheriffs to follow suite. > > This bill is now before the House Judiciary Committee. The members of that > committee are: > > Chair: Representative Sturtz > Vice Chair: Representative Tincher > Members: Bardon; C. Brown; Cochran; Dvorak; Frenz; Kuzman. Foley, R.M.M.; > Dumezich; Munson; Steele; Torr; Ulmer. > > in case you want to contact any of them to express your support for this > bill. See http://www.IN.gov/legislative/legislators/ for contact > information. > > Lois > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > If we cannot respect the dead, how can we respect the living? > >

I've been searching through the legislation introduced this week in the current session of the Indiana General Assembly for something addressing our concerns about the portability of pioneer cemeteries. Haven't found anything yet, but the following bill caught my eye: House Bill 1189 Introduced by Representative Sturtz Status: 1/10/2002 -- First reading: referred to Committee on Judiciary SUMMARY: County inmate work crews. Allows a county sheriff to establish an inmate work program. Specifies inmate eligibility requirements and requires inmates to dress in distinctive county jail uniforms while performing work on crews. Allows a sheriff to require a crew to perform any work the sheriff determines to be appropriate and of benefit to the community except for public work (as defined in the public works projects law). ==================================== See http://www.state.in.us/serv/lsa_billinfo for additional info on HB 1189. We've had GREAT success with the use of inmate labor crews provided to us by Clark Co. Sheriff Mike Becher. Perhaps a statute such as this is what is needed to encourage other Sheriffs to follow suite. This bill is now before the House Judiciary Committee. The members of that committee are: Chair: Representative Sturtz Vice Chair: Representative Tincher Members: Bardon; C. Brown; Cochran; Dvorak; Frenz; Kuzman. Foley, R.M.M.; Dumezich; Munson; Steele; Torr; Ulmer. in case you want to contact any of them to express your support for this bill. See http://www.IN.gov/legislative/legislators/ for contact information. Lois

Thanks to Ruth Pride for the head's up on a story in today's Henderson Gleaner about recognition of efforts by two gentlemen in Henderson, KY with respect to cemetery preservation. See: http://www.myinky.com/ecp/local_news/article/0,1626,ECP_745_936049,00.html Mentioned in this story is the fact that the final report (December 2001) of the Kentucky Attorney General's Task Force on the Preservation of Kentucky Cemeteries is available on-line at: http://www.kyattorneygeneral.com/cemetery/report.pdf Indiana cemeteries are mentioned in the report a couple of times and there is some excellent information in this report that may be applicable to our situation here. The KY Attorney General's website is: http://www.kyattorneygeneral.com/cemetery

Hello John: I am from Tipton County and have been trying through the Tipton County Historical Society to come up with some way to keep the old stone in place and repaired in some of the older parts of the county cemeteries. I just don't know how to start this ball rolling. One of the members also interested found a card for the Pioneer Cemetery Preservation and thus I found your web site. Do you have any suggestions on how to get started? Thanks Joan Wray Tipton county, Indiana joanwray@ccrtc.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Walters" <graveyardgroomer@skyenet.net> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 9:53 AM Subject: [INPCRP] Fayette County > Hello, > I have worked as the supervisor of Fayette County Cemetery Department for about six years, and have thoroughly enjoyed my job. When I was hired Aug. of 96 the department routinely mowed 23 roadside cemeteries. As I got to mowing I knew that there was much more that needed done.With cooperating County Commissioners and County Council we created a department that routinely mows 45 pioneer cemeteries and have restored sixteen. An accomplishment that I am proud of. > The experience that I have gained from being fortunate to work in pioneer cemeteries here in Fayette County has put me in a demanding role, it seems. The opportunity to work in other cemeteries throughout the state seems to be coming to me on a regular basis.Being locked into a 40 hour work week here ties me up. > I have resigned my position. The Cemetery Commission, County Commissioners and myself are working together to insure a smooth transition and keep the Department intact. > I have been contracted by Washington Township Trustee of Marion County to restore six cemeteries in her township, I am starting with Fall Creek cemetery located on Millersville Rd. > I will continue to do workshops, I have one in Ohio and Kentucky this year. > I will reintroduce myself as the INPCRP County Coordinator and stay instrumental in protecting and assisting in Fayette County's cemeteries. I am excited about this move and look forward to traveling, hopefully I will meet some of you good people along the way. > John "Walt" Walters > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know. > >

In a message dated 1/9/02 8:51:47 AM US Eastern Standard Time, graveyardgroomer@skyenet.net writes: > With cooperating County Commissioners and County Council we created a > department that routinely mows 45 pioneer cemeteries and have restored > sixteen. An accomplishment that I am proud of. > The experience that I have gained from being fortunate to work in pioneer > cemeteries here in Fayette County has put me in a demanding role, it seems. > The opportunity to work in other cemeteries throughout the state seems to > be coming to me on a regular basis. John and Micki, John, I'm sure as you and Micki remember, Betty and I encouraged you over a year and a half ago that it was time for you to start making a Profit on the experience you have, and the work that you do. I'm glad that you have decided to move into a wider area of the work that you love. Fayette County's loss is someone else's gain. Everyone understands nothing is forever. We must all move on and up when the opportunity presents itself. Betty and I realized the demand on you was becoming greater than you were able to accommodate 5 days, plus Friday Evenings and Saturdays plus part of Sundays was to much. But devotion to your work drives you that way. The Willingness of you and Micki to Volunteer to come on a 3 hour trip to Harrison County to the Rededication of the Destroyed St. Peters Cemetery in October, and then again on Thanksgiving Weekend 2000 to help Recover destroyed Stones, removed any doubts from our minds about your devotion to how you believe in your work. This shows how dedicated you are to preserving the Destroyed, and neglected cemeteries in Indiana. Fayette County has been, and now all of the other counties in the State will be, much better off for the time you so graciously spent passing on the information, and experience that you have gained while working for Fayette Co. Their belief in you has brought them to the point where a smooth transition can be made by who ever follows you in the Job. I am sure I speak for all on the INPCRP List and those not on the List that you have came in contact with in saying we wish you the very best, and know that you will be very successful in your new pursuits. May God Bless you and Micki where ever you are. We will visit you some Time, some Place, no matter where. Keep in touch. We remain your Friends, Jack and Betty Jack E. Briles, Sr. jb502000@aol.com Floyd County INPCRP Coordinator PO Box 444 New Albany, In. 47151-0444 (812) 282-6585

In a message dated 1/8/02 11:18:07 PM US Eastern Standard Time, Pride1jw@aol.com writes: > stating the Taylor Cem. had been vandalized(,over > 25 markers, ) Ruth, That many Markers damaged must be $2500, therefore it is a Felony if caught. Jack E. Briles Sr. jb502000@aol.com

Our best wishes to you, John and Micki.........Hopefully she can accompany you on your travels...And hopefully what you have done in Fayette Co. can be continued, and at the most , what you have accomplished will surely make it easier for your successor......Know you will stay in touch,, Ruth and Jerry Pride Knox Co.

Hello, I have worked as the supervisor of Fayette County Cemetery Department for about six years, and have thoroughly enjoyed my job. When I was hired Aug. of 96 the department routinely mowed 23 roadside cemeteries. As I got to mowing I knew that there was much more that needed done.With cooperating County Commissioners and County Council we created a department that routinely mows 45 pioneer cemeteries and have restored sixteen. An accomplishment that I am proud of. The experience that I have gained from being fortunate to work in pioneer cemeteries here in Fayette County has put me in a demanding role, it seems. The opportunity to work in other cemeteries throughout the state seems to be coming to me on a regular basis.Being locked into a 40 hour work week here ties me up. I have resigned my position. The Cemetery Commission, County Commissioners and myself are working together to insure a smooth transition and keep the Department intact. I have been contracted by Washington Township Trustee of Marion County to restore six cemeteries in her township, I am starting with Fall Creek cemetery located on Millersville Rd. I will continue to do workshops, I have one in Ohio and Kentucky this year. I will reintroduce myself as the INPCRP County Coordinator and stay instrumental in protecting and assisting in Fayette County's cemeteries. I am excited about this move and look forward to traveling, hopefully I will meet some of you good people along the way. John "Walt" Walters

Ruth: I found the Taylor Cemetery story at: http://www.indystar.com/article.php?nmetrodigest05.html Lois ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pride1jw@aol.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [INPCRP] cemetery preservation makes top 10 > Congratulations on your work in Hancock Co. A real positive for cemetery > preservation in Indiana... On the negative side, did anyone else see the > Jan.5 article ,city-state section ,page B2, of the Indianapolis Star, about > Hamilton Co.,Jackson Twp, stating the Taylor Cem. had been vandalized(,over > 25 markers, ) and funds not available for repairs.. Article stated that > trustee Hiatt is working with the Hist. Soc. to find money to fix them... > Stated the cemetery has stones dating back to the 1800's....Hope they catch > the culprits and dole out punishment equal to the crime committed..... > Ruth Pride Wheatland > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > This list is for discussion of topics related to the Indiana Pioneer > Cemeteries Restoration Project only. > >

Congratulations on your work in Hancock Co. A real positive for cemetery preservation in Indiana... On the negative side, did anyone else see the Jan.5 article ,city-state section ,page B2, of the Indianapolis Star, about Hamilton Co.,Jackson Twp, stating the Taylor Cem. had been vandalized(,over 25 markers, ) and funds not available for repairs.. Article stated that trustee Hiatt is working with the Hist. Soc. to find money to fix them... Stated the cemetery has stones dating back to the 1800's....Hope they catch the culprits and dole out punishment equal to the crime committed..... Ruth Pride Wheatland

Dearest Jack, Thanks. Don't worry. I won't ever give up in something I believe in so strongly and passionately. A great hurdle has been crossed, but there are many, many more that will indeed crop up along the way. Greg say hi! Angela ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jb502000@aol.com> To: <INPCRP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [INPCRP] cemetery preservation makes top 10 > In a message dated 1/7/02 11:51:28 PM US Eastern Standard Time, > tielking@knightstown.net writes: > > > > Hello everyone! > > > > I thought you all would like to know that in the Greenfield Daily Reporter > > for Hancock Co., Ind., all the news coverage on Gard cemetery and the > > formation of a cemetery commission board made the top 10 list for top local > > stories of 2001. It ranked fourth out of 10 stories. > > Angela, > I'm proud of the work you have done. Congratulations, and keep up the fight. > It's not over. All the best to you, tell greg I said hello, Sincerily > > Jack E. Briles Sr. > jb502000@aol.com > Floyd County INPCRP Coordinator > PO Box 444 > New Albany, In. 47151-0444 > (812) 282-6585 > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > "Show me your cemeteries, and I will tell you what kind of people you have." > Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790) >

In a message dated 1/7/02 11:51:28 PM US Eastern Standard Time, tielking@knightstown.net writes: > Hello everyone! > > I thought you all would like to know that in the Greenfield Daily Reporter > for Hancock Co., Ind., all the news coverage on Gard cemetery and the > formation of a cemetery commission board made the top 10 list for top local > stories of 2001. It ranked fourth out of 10 stories. Angela, I'm proud of the work you have done. Congratulations, and keep up the fight. It's not over. All the best to you, tell greg I said hello, Sincerily Jack E. Briles Sr. jb502000@aol.com Floyd County INPCRP Coordinator PO Box 444 New Albany, In. 47151-0444 (812) 282-6585

Hello all, I'm coming in a little late on the Federal laws discussion... A group of us were asked in 2000 to provide information to the National Trust for Historic Preservation for a bill they were putting together to submit to the House/Senate covering the protection of cemeteries or preservation of cemeteries. Last I heard, the bill was being prepared. I've not heard that it went all the way yet. -------------- Andrea D. MacDonald "Andi" andimac@oz.net Washington State Cemetery Association http://www.rootsweb.com/~wapsgs/ "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world. Indeed it's the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead