what if there were Native People buried there? Then it would be a a Federal matter...but basically...no one's remans should be disrespected/disturbed/disinterred/disregarded....et al what a SAD situation~~ Marilynn in NM

Hi, Found James Crane in the 1870 census for Pike county as follows: Petersburg, Washington Township, Pike County. Census taken July 18, 1870 William Myers age 24 Real Estate value $1,600. Personal property $350. Farmer born Indiana. Wife Margaret Keeps House born Prussia James M. Crane age 10 born Indiana attends school I checked the other Jamie/James Cranes for Indiana and this one seems the most likely. Good Luck, Julie Moes Central City Iowa Historical Society

So, I guess that's it! I'm sorry, but I promise not to do it again. I just don't get it. In my world, you break the law and you go to jail. Where is this going to go from here? I would like to have a copy of the C.O.'s investigative report. If he did any kind of investigation at all, he might have uncovered the fact that the so-called "landowner" doesn't even own the land the cemetery sits on. So, we all go home now and wait for next spring, or what? I knew it wouldn't go anywhere, it never does. Jon Andrews >From: "Rich Green" <[email protected]> >To: "Jon Andrews" <[email protected]> >Subject: Fw: Mariah Baptist Cemetery >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:32:44 -0500 > > >Rich Green >Historic Archaeological Research >4338 Hadley Court >West Lafayette, IN 47906 >Office: (765) 464-8735 >Mobile: (765) 427-4082 >www.har-indy.com > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mohow, James >To: 'Rich Green' >Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 9:14 AM >Subject: RE: Mariah Baptist Cemetery > > >Rich: > > > >Wanted to let you know that we just received the Conservation Officer's >report on his investigation of the Mariah Baptist Cemetery. > >While he land owner was not cooperative. The current tenant farmer has >promised not to disturb the land again after he has harvested his corn crop >for this year. The C.O. will also follow this up by checking the site >again this Fall and again in the Spring. > > > >Jim _________________________________________________________________ Watch the online reality show Mixed Messages with a friend and enter to win a trip to NY http://www.msnmessenger-download.click-url.com/go/onm00200497ave/direct/01/

Rich: One thing that I failed to mention. We have talked to a fellow here who says that within the last year or two the farmer/landowner has removed the fence that was around the Polk gravesite. The steel posts are still there as evidenced in your photos, but slowly but surely it disappears, just a little at a time. At least we now have what remains documented with GPS and photos, if he does anymore. Will call you if I hear anything new. Jon >From: "Rich Green" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Baptist cemetery in Knox County? >Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 07:33:32 -0500 > >Jon, > >I didn't have time to adequately respond to your e-mail last night (just >checking my mail before calling it a day) so I thought I'd respond again >this morning. > >I think the Maria Creek Baptist Church and cemetery site is certainly >important enough to continue to pursue with vigor and I'm glad to hear that >the Knox County Cemetery Commission has been following up on it. As I >said, I did get an e-mail from the DHPA stating that they haven't heard >back from the C.O. yet either. And again, I'm pretty sure they will follow >up on this as well. > >I'm not certain how the property owner could defend his position? It is >obvious that the cemetery is being used for agricultural purposes and that >there are graves being plowed through. And, there can be no doubt that the >Charles Polk gravesite and tombstone are in eminent danger of further >damage or destruction. I'm sure that the Knox County C.O. has concluded >likewise, so I suppose we just have to wait it out and see what the land >owner intends to do? > >Thanks for taking the time to respond and thanks for following up with the >prosecutor's office. Drop me an e-mail offline when you get a chance and >let me know what your schedule is and a good time to call. > >Best Regards, > >Rich Green >Historic Archaeological Research >4338 Hadley Court >West Lafayette, IN 47906 >Office: (765) 464-8735 >Mobile: (765) 427-4082 >www.har-indy.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jon andrews > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 9:20 PM > Subject: RE: [INPCRP] Baptist cemetery in Knox County? > > > Rich: > > I've been gone for a few days, but in answer to your question about the > Maria Creek Baptist Cemetery destruction, it hasn't gone anywhere, that >I > know of. I would think that somewhere there would be a report of an > investigation. > > I spoke with the Knox County Prosecutor and the Sherrif yesterday and he >did > have a visit from two Conservation Officers over 30 days ago to give him >a > "heads up" that they were going to go visit the landowner. Other than >that, > the Prosecutor knows nothing about it. One of them also visited the >local > library seeking information. I offered to provide copies of all the > information we have to the DHPA over 60 days ago. I wish that they would > contact the local people who know the situation, before tipping their >hand > to the landowner and just getting his one-sided story. I have heard his >side > before and it's pretty convincing if you don't know the full story. > > I have tried to contact the local Conservation Officer several times, >both > through our local Sherrif's office and through their regional >headquarters, > but they have never returned my calls. They do not give out direct >numbers, > so you just sit and wait. I am glad it's not an emergency! > > I am interested, as well, as to what, if anything, has developed out of > their investigation. It is my understanding that we now have a new > Conservation Officer in Knox County, so maybe they are just a little >slow > getting started, but I imagine that this will just fall by the wayside >like > so many others that we have reported before. > > It you or anyone else finds out anymore, let me know, too. > > Jon Andrews > > > > > >From: "Rich Green" <[email protected]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: [INPCRP] Baptist cemetery in Knox County? > >Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:58:19 -0500 > > > >Hello all, > > > >I'm wondering if anyone down in Knox County (Jon Andrews and others) >have > >heard any more about the Maria Creek Baptist church and cemetery site? > >Last > >I heard Jeannie allowed as how the C.O. had been dispatched to confirm >site > >conditions, and then this was to be turned over to the Knox County > >prosecutor. It's been a while so I thought I'd drop a line to the list >to > >see if anyone has heard anything? Sure hope so. > > > >Regards, > > > >Rich Green > >Historic Archaeological Research > >4338 Hadley Court > >West Lafayette, IN 47906 > >Office: (765) 464-8735 > >Mobile: (765) 427-4082 > >www.har-indy.com > > > > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > >Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > From 'will you?' to 'I do,' MSN Life Events is your resource for Getting > Married. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know. > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >Scott Satterthwaite < [email protected] > is the INPCRP State >Coordinator. 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The Bloomington Historical Society has a gravestone for Jamie Crane, aged 9 years 4 mos & 14 days, died Nov. 2, 1873. It was given to the Society as stolen property from the police department. Therefore, we don't know exactly where it might have come from. Would anyone out there have any information? MaryAlice Parks

Jon, I didn't have time to adequately respond to your e-mail last night (just checking my mail before calling it a day) so I thought I'd respond again this morning. I think the Maria Creek Baptist Church and cemetery site is certainly important enough to continue to pursue with vigor and I'm glad to hear that the Knox County Cemetery Commission has been following up on it. As I said, I did get an e-mail from the DHPA stating that they haven't heard back from the C.O. yet either. And again, I'm pretty sure they will follow up on this as well. I'm not certain how the property owner could defend his position? It is obvious that the cemetery is being used for agricultural purposes and that there are graves being plowed through. And, there can be no doubt that the Charles Polk gravesite and tombstone are in eminent danger of further damage or destruction. I'm sure that the Knox County C.O. has concluded likewise, so I suppose we just have to wait it out and see what the land owner intends to do? Thanks for taking the time to respond and thanks for following up with the prosecutor's office. Drop me an e-mail offline when you get a chance and let me know what your schedule is and a good time to call. Best Regards, Rich Green Historic Archaeological Research 4338 Hadley Court West Lafayette, IN 47906 Office: (765) 464-8735 Mobile: (765) 427-4082 www.har-indy.com ----- Original Message ----- From: jon andrews To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 9:20 PM Subject: RE: [INPCRP] Baptist cemetery in Knox County? Rich: I've been gone for a few days, but in answer to your question about the Maria Creek Baptist Cemetery destruction, it hasn't gone anywhere, that I know of. I would think that somewhere there would be a report of an investigation. I spoke with the Knox County Prosecutor and the Sherrif yesterday and he did have a visit from two Conservation Officers over 30 days ago to give him a "heads up" that they were going to go visit the landowner. Other than that, the Prosecutor knows nothing about it. One of them also visited the local library seeking information. I offered to provide copies of all the information we have to the DHPA over 60 days ago. I wish that they would contact the local people who know the situation, before tipping their hand to the landowner and just getting his one-sided story. I have heard his side before and it's pretty convincing if you don't know the full story. I have tried to contact the local Conservation Officer several times, both through our local Sherrif's office and through their regional headquarters, but they have never returned my calls. They do not give out direct numbers, so you just sit and wait. I am glad it's not an emergency! I am interested, as well, as to what, if anything, has developed out of their investigation. It is my understanding that we now have a new Conservation Officer in Knox County, so maybe they are just a little slow getting started, but I imagine that this will just fall by the wayside like so many others that we have reported before. It you or anyone else finds out anymore, let me know, too. Jon Andrews >From: "Rich Green" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [INPCRP] Baptist cemetery in Knox County? >Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:58:19 -0500 > >Hello all, > >I'm wondering if anyone down in Knox County (Jon Andrews and others) have >heard any more about the Maria Creek Baptist church and cemetery site? >Last >I heard Jeannie allowed as how the C.O. had been dispatched to confirm site >conditions, and then this was to be turned over to the Knox County >prosecutor. It's been a while so I thought I'd drop a line to the list to >see if anyone has heard anything? Sure hope so. > >Regards, > >Rich Green >Historic Archaeological Research >4338 Hadley Court >West Lafayette, IN 47906 >Office: (765) 464-8735 >Mobile: (765) 427-4082 >www.har-indy.com > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know. > _________________________________________________________________ From 'will you?' to 'I do,' MSN Life Events is your resource for Getting Married. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know.

Hi Jon, I was beginning to wonder where you've been? I did hear from someone at the DHPA and he allowed as how their office hadn't heard anything more since the Conservation Officer started the investigation. He also said he was going to look into it and I'm confident that he will. More later, Rich Green Historic Archaeological Research 4338 Hadley Court West Lafayette, IN 47906 Office: (765) 464-8735 Mobile: (765) 427-4082 www.har-indy.com ----- Original Message ----- From: jon andrews To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 9:20 PM Subject: RE: [INPCRP] Baptist cemetery in Knox County? Rich: I've been gone for a few days, but in answer to your question about the Maria Creek Baptist Cemetery destruction, it hasn't gone anywhere, that I know of. I would think that somewhere there would be a report of an investigation. I spoke with the Knox County Prosecutor and the Sherrif yesterday and he did have a visit from two Conservation Officers over 30 days ago to give him a "heads up" that they were going to go visit the landowner. Other than that, the Prosecutor knows nothing about it. One of them also visited the local library seeking information. I offered to provide copies of all the information we have to the DHPA over 60 days ago. I wish that they would contact the local people who know the situation, before tipping their hand to the landowner and just getting his one-sided story. I have heard his side before and it's pretty convincing if you don't know the full story. I have tried to contact the local Conservation Officer several times, both through our local Sherrif's office and through their regional headquarters, but they have never returned my calls. They do not give out direct numbers, so you just sit and wait. I am glad it's not an emergency! I am interested, as well, as to what, if anything, has developed out of their investigation. It is my understanding that we now have a new Conservation Officer in Knox County, so maybe they are just a little slow getting started, but I imagine that this will just fall by the wayside like so many others that we have reported before. It you or anyone else finds out anymore, let me know, too. Jon Andrews >From: "Rich Green" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [INPCRP] Baptist cemetery in Knox County? >Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:58:19 -0500 > >Hello all, > >I'm wondering if anyone down in Knox County (Jon Andrews and others) have >heard any more about the Maria Creek Baptist church and cemetery site? >Last >I heard Jeannie allowed as how the C.O. had been dispatched to confirm site >conditions, and then this was to be turned over to the Knox County >prosecutor. It's been a while so I thought I'd drop a line to the list to >see if anyone has heard anything? Sure hope so. > >Regards, > >Rich Green >Historic Archaeological Research >4338 Hadley Court >West Lafayette, IN 47906 >Office: (765) 464-8735 >Mobile: (765) 427-4082 >www.har-indy.com > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know. > _________________________________________________________________ From 'will you?' to 'I do,' MSN Life Events is your resource for Getting Married. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know.

Rich: I've been gone for a few days, but in answer to your question about the Maria Creek Baptist Cemetery destruction, it hasn't gone anywhere, that I know of. I would think that somewhere there would be a report of an investigation. I spoke with the Knox County Prosecutor and the Sherrif yesterday and he did have a visit from two Conservation Officers over 30 days ago to give him a "heads up" that they were going to go visit the landowner. Other than that, the Prosecutor knows nothing about it. One of them also visited the local library seeking information. I offered to provide copies of all the information we have to the DHPA over 60 days ago. I wish that they would contact the local people who know the situation, before tipping their hand to the landowner and just getting his one-sided story. I have heard his side before and it's pretty convincing if you don't know the full story. I have tried to contact the local Conservation Officer several times, both through our local Sherrif's office and through their regional headquarters, but they have never returned my calls. They do not give out direct numbers, so you just sit and wait. I am glad it's not an emergency! I am interested, as well, as to what, if anything, has developed out of their investigation. It is my understanding that we now have a new Conservation Officer in Knox County, so maybe they are just a little slow getting started, but I imagine that this will just fall by the wayside like so many others that we have reported before. It you or anyone else finds out anymore, let me know, too. Jon Andrews >From: "Rich Green" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [INPCRP] Baptist cemetery in Knox County? >Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:58:19 -0500 > >Hello all, > >I'm wondering if anyone down in Knox County (Jon Andrews and others) have >heard any more about the Maria Creek Baptist church and cemetery site? >Last >I heard Jeannie allowed as how the C.O. had been dispatched to confirm site >conditions, and then this was to be turned over to the Knox County >prosecutor. It's been a while so I thought I'd drop a line to the list to >see if anyone has heard anything? Sure hope so. > >Regards, > >Rich Green >Historic Archaeological Research >4338 Hadley Court >West Lafayette, IN 47906 >Office: (765) 464-8735 >Mobile: (765) 427-4082 >www.har-indy.com > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know. > _________________________________________________________________ From ‘will you?’ to ‘I do,’ MSN Life Events is your resource for Getting Married. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married

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Thanks Mae for the reply and information. I really didn't think we were the only people who had problems with walnut trees. But people like walnut trees! Joan Wray Tipton County ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [INPCRP] TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE > Joan Not only are walnut tree roots are bad they can also grow and crack the older vaults of older burials. When My aunt and uncle was moved from the Mounment City Cemetery to a new burial ground due to the Salmonia dam being build and land being flooded. The goverment move the bodies but a memeber of the family if any living was to be or could be there in the digging up and movingthis was back in the early 60's. This is when they dug up my Aunt and Uncle and moved them to LaFontaine, IOOF .from the Mounment City Cemetery. That a big walnut tree in the church yard a good 50 ft away from the graves the roots had grown over into the Cemetery land and into graves and when they went to remove the vaults and caskets the roots was entwine around the vaults and crack the vaults cause water to leak in .They then had to removed the caskets and bodies and replace both in a wooden box Then in new vaults before re buried at the goverment expense. How I know this is my dad and grandfather was present at the digging of of the bodies .And they was telling of the experience they seen . Which was my dad's brother and sister being moved. Just thought you would like to Know. Mae (Enyeart) Garrett Marion. Ind Thanks Everyone for the comments about the walnut trees. > > There is another reason for the trees being a bother....it is that the > roots grow just under the ground out from the trees about 15-20 feet in > a circle and causes stones to fall over. They are in the way almost > every time we re-set a stone. > > Joan Wray > Tipton County > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jon andrews" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 8:40 PM > Subject: Re: [INPCRP] TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE > > > Maybe it would be easier to just get rid of the squirrels! > > > > > >>Walnuts and Squirrel's, you will get trees. They bury more than they >> can use and >>the trees are already "Planted" so to speak, so they grow. Very seldom >> will the trees "sprout" after having laid on top of the ground, without >> being buried >>by their "helpers". > > _________________________________________________________________ > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® > Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Scott Satterthwaite < [email protected] > is the INPCRP State > Coordinator. Feel free to contact him directly regarding questions or > comments you may have about the INPCRP. > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Scott Satterthwaite < [email protected] > is the INPCRP State > Coordinator. Feel free to contact him directly regarding questions or > comments you may have about the INPCRP. ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of "UNSUBSCRIBE" to [email protected] or to [email protected] (for DIGEST version)

> Joan Not only are walnut tree roots are bad they can also grow and crack the older vaults of older burials. When My aunt and uncle was moved from the Mounment City Cemetery to a new burial ground due to the Salmonia dam being build and land being flooded. The goverment move the bodies but a memeber of the family if any living was to be or could be there in the digging up and movingthis was back in the early 60's. This is when they dug up my Aunt and Uncle and moved them to LaFontaine, IOOF .from the Mounment City Cemetery. That a big walnut tree in the church yard a good 50 ft away from the graves the roots had grown over into the Cemetery land and into graves and when they went to remove the vaults and caskets the roots was entwine around the vaults and crack the vaults cause water to leak in .They then had to removed the caskets and bodies and replace both in a wooden box Then in new vaults before re buried at the goverment expense. How I know this is my dad and grandfather was present at the digging of of the bodies .And they was telling of the experience they seen . Which was my dad's brother and sister being moved. Just thought you would like to Know. Mae (Enyeart) Garrett Marion. Ind Thanks Everyone for the comments about the walnut trees. > > There is another reason for the trees being a bother....it is that the > roots grow just under the ground out from the trees about 15-20 feet in > a circle and causes stones to fall over. They are in the way almost > every time we re-set a stone. > > Joan Wray > Tipton County > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jon andrews" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 8:40 PM > Subject: Re: [INPCRP] TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE > > > Maybe it would be easier to just get rid of the squirrels! > > > > > >>Walnuts and Squirrel's, you will get trees. They bury more than they >> can use and >>the trees are already "Planted" so to speak, so they grow. Very seldom >> will the trees "sprout" after having laid on top of the ground, without >> being buried >>by their "helpers". > > _________________________________________________________________ > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® > Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Scott Satterthwaite < [email protected] > is the INPCRP State > Coordinator. Feel free to contact him directly regarding questions or > comments you may have about the INPCRP. > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > Scott Satterthwaite < [email protected] > is the INPCRP State > Coordinator. Feel free to contact him directly regarding questions or > comments you may have about the INPCRP.

Thanks Everyone for the comments about the walnut trees. There is another reason for the trees being a bother....it is that the roots grow just under the ground out from the trees about 15-20 feet in a circle and causes stones to fall over. They are in the way almost every time we re-set a stone. Joan Wray Tipton County ----- Original Message ----- From: "jon andrews" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [INPCRP] TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE Maybe it would be easier to just get rid of the squirrels! >Walnuts and Squirrel's, you will get trees. They bury more than they can >use and >the trees are already "Planted" so to speak, so they grow. Very seldom will >the trees "sprout" after having laid on top of the ground, without being >buried >by their "helpers". _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== Scott Satterthwaite < [email protected] > is the INPCRP State Coordinator. Feel free to contact him directly regarding questions or comments you may have about the INPCRP.

I'm sure this helps as well ;-) Deborah -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 8:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [INPCRP] TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE In a message dated 6/14/04 9:33:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Subj:RE: [INPCRP] TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE > Date:6/14/04 9:33:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time > From:[email protected] > Reply-to:[email protected] > To:[email protected] > Sent from the Internet > > > > The roots of walnut trees emit a type of natural "poison" that > prevent other trees/plants from propagating near them, creating the > perfect condition for them to seed themselves. Aside from destroying > the trees, there's no way to prevent this (that I know of) > > Deborah Luzier > Marion County > Deborah, Having been born in the country 70 years ago, I have found where you have Walnuts and Squirrel's, you will get trees. They bury more than they can use and the trees are already "Planted" so to speak, so they grow. Very seldom will the trees "sprout" after having laid on top of the ground, without being buried by their "helpers". I know there are exceptions, but this usually happens. We would Gather the Walnuts when they fell and this Stopped them from Growing so readily. Jack ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== Quote from William Gladstone (1809-1897), three-time Prime Minister of England and Victorian contemporary of Benjamin Disraeli: "Show me the manner in which a nation or community cares for its dead and I will measure with mathematical exactness the tender mercies of its people, their respect for the laws of the land, and their loyalty to high ideals."

Maybe it would be easier to just get rid of the squirrels! >Walnuts and Squirrel's, you will get trees. They bury more than they can >use and >the trees are already "Planted" so to speak, so they grow. Very seldom will >the trees "sprout" after having laid on top of the ground, without being >buried >by their "helpers". _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

In a message dated 6/14/04 9:33:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Subj:RE: [INPCRP] TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE > Date:6/14/04 9:33:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time > From:[email protected] > Reply-to:[email protected] > To:[email protected] > Sent from the Internet > > > > The roots of walnut trees emit a type of natural "poison" that prevent > other trees/plants from propagating near them, creating the perfect > condition for them to seed themselves. Aside from destroying the trees, > there's no way to prevent this (that I know of) > > Deborah Luzier > Marion County > Deborah, Having been born in the country 70 years ago, I have found where you have Walnuts and Squirrel's, you will get trees. They bury more than they can use and the trees are already "Planted" so to speak, so they grow. Very seldom will the trees "sprout" after having laid on top of the ground, without being buried by their "helpers". I know there are exceptions, but this usually happens. We would Gather the Walnuts when they fell and this Stopped them from Growing so readily. Jack

Hello all, I'm wondering if anyone down in Knox County (Jon Andrews and others) have heard any more about the Maria Creek Baptist church and cemetery site? Last I heard Jeannie allowed as how the C.O. had been dispatched to confirm site conditions, and then this was to be turned over to the Knox County prosecutor. It's been a while so I thought I'd drop a line to the list to see if anyone has heard anything? Sure hope so. Regards, Rich Green Historic Archaeological Research 4338 Hadley Court West Lafayette, IN 47906 Office: (765) 464-8735 Mobile: (765) 427-4082 www.har-indy.com

The roots of walnut trees emit a type of natural "poison" that prevent other trees/plants from propagating near them, creating the perfect condition for them to seed themselves. Aside from destroying the trees, there's no way to prevent this (that I know of) Deborah Luzier Marion County -----Original Message----- From: E. Joan Wray [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 5:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [INPCRP] TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE Thanks Greg and everyone else for their replies. Greg: Have you ever had the problem of volunteer walnut trees being a problem in cemeteries? This is part of my problem. The earlier pictures of this cemetery showed no trees...Today it is covered with walnut trees that just seem to be seeding themselves. These trees' roots grow under the stones and make them fall over as well as the trees staining them. Any further suggestions? Joan Wray Tipton County ----- Original Message ----- From: "gregory.l.valentine" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 10:57 AM Subject: RE: [INPCRP] TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE Joan, You might try talking to your trustees advisory board...normally (3) have been elected to serve you. 1st thought...Your advisory board and trustee will be advertising public meetings next month to go over the twp. budget for 2004. Show up as a concerned citizen regarding budget, and then lay your concern on them all. 2nd thought...Attend the next monthly meeting of your county commissioners and ask them to communicate with the trustee to respond to your concerns. They usually have a few minutes for the public concerns just before they adjourn their meeting. They may call it miscellaneous business, but normally will let you speak. I suggest to have copies of the letters you have or will have written to the deaf trustee involved here. The Department of Natural Resources oversees the cemetery portion of township government to a certain extent. We trustees, yes I am one also, are required by law to assist in several areas, and normally major areas I can help with are the areas of: Poor Relief Fire Protection Cemeteries Care Noxious Weed Patrol Fenceline Observer....not much of that any more, they are all going away due to big grain farmers Good Luck, Greg Valentine Green Twp. T/A Madison County -----Original Message----- From: E. Joan Wray [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 10:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [INPCRP] TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE Hello All: Does anyone out there have any suggestions for us when the Township Trustee is co-operative and has a deft ear? Very confused about this. Who do you go to when you can't get past the Trustee? Thanks everyone, Joan Wray Tipton County ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== THIS IS A CEMETERY ----- "Lives are commemorated - deaths are recorded - families are reunited - memories are made tangible - and love is undisguised. This is a cemetery. "Communities accord respect, families bestow reverence, historians seek information and our heritage is thereby enriched. "Testimonies of devotion, pride and remembrance are carved in stone to pay warm tribute to accomplishments and to the life - not the death - of a loved one. The cemetery is homeland for family memorials that are a sustaining source of comfort to the living. "A cemetery is a history of people - a perpetual record of yesterday and sanctuary of peace and quiet today. A cemetery exists because every life is worth loving and remembering - always." --Author unknown -- Seen at a monument dealer in West Union, IA **************************************************************************** ************ Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and thus protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. **************************************************************************** ************ ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of "UNSUBSCRIBE" to [email protected] or to [email protected] (for DIGEST version) ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== Scott Satterthwaite < [email protected] > is the INPCRP State Coordinator. Feel free to contact him directly regarding questions or comments you may have about the INPCRP.

Thanks Greg and everyone else for their replies. Greg: Have you ever had the problem of volunteer walnut trees being a problem in cemeteries? This is part of my problem. The earlier pictures of this cemetery showed no trees...Today it is covered with walnut trees that just seem to be seeding themselves. These trees' roots grow under the stones and make them fall over as well as the trees staining them. Any further suggestions? Joan Wray Tipton County ----- Original Message ----- From: "gregory.l.valentine" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 10:57 AM Subject: RE: [INPCRP] TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE Joan, You might try talking to your trustees advisory board...normally (3) have been elected to serve you. 1st thought...Your advisory board and trustee will be advertising public meetings next month to go over the twp. budget for 2004. Show up as a concerned citizen regarding budget, and then lay your concern on them all. 2nd thought...Attend the next monthly meeting of your county commissioners and ask them to communicate with the trustee to respond to your concerns. They usually have a few minutes for the public concerns just before they adjourn their meeting. They may call it miscellaneous business, but normally will let you speak. I suggest to have copies of the letters you have or will have written to the deaf trustee involved here. The Department of Natural Resources oversees the cemetery portion of township government to a certain extent. We trustees, yes I am one also, are required by law to assist in several areas, and normally major areas I can help with are the areas of: Poor Relief Fire Protection Cemeteries Care Noxious Weed Patrol Fenceline Observer....not much of that any more, they are all going away due to big grain farmers Good Luck, Greg Valentine Green Twp. T/A Madison County -----Original Message----- From: E. Joan Wray [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 10:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [INPCRP] TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE Hello All: Does anyone out there have any suggestions for us when the Township Trustee is co-operative and has a deft ear? Very confused about this. Who do you go to when you can't get past the Trustee? Thanks everyone, Joan Wray Tipton County ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== THIS IS A CEMETERY ----- "Lives are commemorated - deaths are recorded - families are reunited - memories are made tangible - and love is undisguised. This is a cemetery. "Communities accord respect, families bestow reverence, historians seek information and our heritage is thereby enriched. "Testimonies of devotion, pride and remembrance are carved in stone to pay warm tribute to accomplishments and to the life - not the death - of a loved one. The cemetery is homeland for family memorials that are a sustaining source of comfort to the living. "A cemetery is a history of people - a perpetual record of yesterday and sanctuary of peace and quiet today. A cemetery exists because every life is worth loving and remembering - always." --Author unknown -- Seen at a monument dealer in West Union, IA **************************************************************************** ************ Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and thus protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. **************************************************************************** ************ ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of "UNSUBSCRIBE" to [email protected] or to [email protected] (for DIGEST version)

What about the township board, they have say over the trustee. Linda Grove Liberty Township Trustee/Assessor Howard County, Indiana Office: 765.628.2402 Linda Gill Grove Surname Researching: IN: Gill, Stout, Manor, and Mann NYC: Joyce, McAleer, Callaghan and McGregor "Their Story Is Our Story"

In a message dated 6/11/2004 11:12:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Does anyone out there have any suggestions for us when the Township Trustee is cooperative and has a deft ear? Yes, I have a suggestion, the Trustee is cooperative and willing but perhaps tax dollars do not allow the Trustee to overnight repair a problem that took a hundred years to weather. I know Trustee's who take their own money to do restoration but not all Trustee's have private money to accomplish this. In my community people give donations and we have pizza parties and field trips to raise awareness and they write grant applications to various corporations for cemetery restoration. I suggest the Trustee's hearing is fine. All these ideas are just suggestions. Tom