I have changed my e-mail address to: [email protected] . Please make a note of this. Joan Wray

I was just looking over the new Franklin, IN city web site and found that they have put a bunch of pictures online from the repair day in July. http://www.ci.franklin.in.us/parks/greenlawn.asp Sharon Howell, I haven't forgotten the pictures you put on the disk for me. My floppy drive is busted and we are about to get a new computer. I will get to them...Thanks! Brad

Hello group: Have a question. We have never ran into this before. We started working yesterday on the Tucker Cemetery which is on US31 behind the motel just south of SR28 junction. Our first stone was a stack stone mess which is about three stack stones mixed together. Anyway, when we were digging trying to solve which goes with which we found a long tablet type stone about at least 6 feet long, finished front and back but the sides were rough cut. This stone had many head size stones on top of it. It was actually between where the bases of two of the stack stones went. Anyway, after getting it up, we decided that it must have been just to cover someone's grave. Have any of you ever found these? There also was one a little smaller behind one of the bases sitting sideways in the hole. It was shorter about 4 feet long again the sides were not finished. Interested to hear from you on this Joan Wray Tipton County

Thanks for the update Lee. I just sent off another message to Ruth. Brad -----Original Message----- From: Lee [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 6:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [INPCRP] Ruth Holiday I was approached in person by Ruth Holiday and she explained the delay in writing. One of her most promising contacts had to cancel at the last minute, due to the humid weather, and at the time much mud. He would like to wait for the corn to get harvested, now. In addition to that, with the IPD officer being killed she has devoted much time to covering that "beat". She has discretion in much of she writes, but when it comes to electives, sometimes they get pushed back when breaking news comes out, and that must be covered. She assured me that she will continue delving into this, also she needs more people to contact her, the response was very few. Her email again is [email protected] She needs more sources to cover gravesites that are being abused, threatened, etc. Use your imagination in case you are not sure. Submitting nothing, gets us nothing. I am extremely busy, but I have been keeping on top of this in addition to prior ideas discussed. Lee Creed Greencastle ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== "Show me your cemeteries, and I will tell you what kind of people you have." Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790)

I was approached in person by Ruth Holiday and she explained the delay in writing. One of her most promising contacts had to cancel at the last minute, due to the humid weather, and at the time much mud. He would like to wait for the corn to get harvested, now. In addition to that, with the IPD officer being killed she has devoted much time to covering that "beat". She has discretion in much of she writes, but when it comes to electives, sometimes they get pushed back when breaking news comes out, and that must be covered. She assured me that she will continue delving into this, also she needs more people to contact her, the response was very few. Her email again is [email protected] She needs more sources to cover gravesites that are being abused, threatened, etc. Use your imagination in case you are not sure. Submitting nothing, gets us nothing. I am extremely busy, but I have been keeping on top of this in addition to prior ideas discussed. Lee Creed Greencastle

This sounds so wonderful - I can't go, but if someone on the list is able to attend, perhaps they could 'recap' on the list for those of us who want to and can't. Pam

August 14, 2004 article from the Elwood Call -Leader "Special Attention Paid to One of Area's Oldest Cemeteries" by Mike Retherford Frazier/Carr/ Duck Creek Cemetery, Pipe Creek Township, Madison Co. IN By MIKE RETHERFORD As crews continue to create what will soon become the new nine holes at the Cattails Golf Course, owners Jeff and Brad Mays are paying special attention to one area of the property that few even know exists. Located just south of Madison Road and tucked away behind a row of trees, lies one of the area�s oldest cemeteries. The Duck Creek Cemetery dates back to at least 1849, when Jacob Tranbarger was buried at the age of 46. Tranbarger is likely the first to be buried in the cemetery as it once carried the name Tranbarger Cemetery. Since then, however, the cemetery has also been known by other names including Frazier Farm, Ray, and Carr Cemetery. The area was not officially deeded as a cemetery until 1863 when it was set aside as a burying ground by John and Phebe Ray. The last person buried in the cemetery is believed to be Henry Hanshew, who died Aug. 20, 1900. Of the stones that can still be read, most are of individuals who died before the age of 40. The oldest person appears to be Emily W. Benedict, who died three months prior to her 85th birthday. Although the cemetery is located on the property purchased for the golf course, the owners have no intentions to do anything but improve the area. According to Brad Mays, workers have already began clearing out overgrown trees and weeds from the area. In the end, the cemetery will be surrounded by a new fence and will be more accessible to the public than it ever has been. Mays stated that the plans include a cart path from Madison Road back to the cemetery, which will allow for individuals to walk back to the historic site. Currently the only access to the cemetery requires traveling off-road through a rugged field. The lack of access, however, has not stopped the individuals from getting back to the cemetery. In fact, the area has been the site of numerous local legends over the years, prompting teens to investigate the area. Unfortunately, not everyone has entered the cemetery with good intentions, as many of the stones have been knocked over, broken, or stolen by vandals. Other stones have been found along the creek, which borders the cemetery. Mays said that those stones will be relocated to the cemetery. The responsibility of maintaining abandoned cemeteries falls on the township trustee. Pipe Creek township trustee Pearl Gardner stated that the Duck Creek cemetery, along with seven other abandoned cemeteries, are mowed when needed. ��Whenever stones are knocked over we try and get them reset. It is really too bad that we can�t read more of the stones,� Gardner said. She added that the better public access to the cemetery and addition of the golf course will keep the cemetery safer and less likely to be vandalized. She also noted that a new marker will be placed at the road and the golf course developers have discussed having a small parking area just off of Madison Road. The nine hole addition to the course is scheduled to be completed in the summer of 2005. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish.

Time of the event is 7 PM. -----Original Message----- From: Brad Manzenberger [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 1:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [INPCRP] Franklin recognition The City of Franklin will present INPCRP and Graveyard Groomers with a plaque of recognition in appreciation for repair work done to recently vandalized markers at Greenlawn Cemetery on Monday September 13, 2004 at Franklin City Hall. The presentation will take place at the beginning of the City Council meeting. All are welcome! For directions contact me directly at [email protected] Brad ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== THIS IS A CEMETERY ----- "Lives are commemorated - deaths are recorded - families are reunited - memories are made tangible - and love is undisguised. This is a cemetery. "Communities accord respect, families bestow reverence, historians seek information and our heritage is thereby enriched. "Testimonies of devotion, pride and remembrance are carved in stone to pay warm tribute to accomplishments and to the life - not the death - of a loved one. The cemetery is homeland for family memorials that are a sustaining source of comfort to the living. "A cemetery is a history of people - a perpetual record of yesterday and sanctuary of peace and quiet today. A cemetery exists because every life is worth loving and remembering - always." --Author unknown -- Seen at a monument dealer in West Union, IA

The City of Franklin will present INPCRP and Graveyard Groomers with a plaque of recognition in appreciation for repair work done to recently vandalized markers at Greenlawn Cemetery on Monday September 13, 2004 at Franklin City Hall. The presentation will take place at the beginning of the City Council meeting. All are welcome! For directions contact me directly at [email protected] Brad

Passing this on, we will be in Indy this weekend at the cemetery workshop. But Friday nights talk is about burial customs. L.A. Quaker Hill Conference Center announces that Tom Hamm, Archivist and Curator of the Friends Collection at Earlham College, will be the principal resource person for the annual "Quaker Genealogy Workshop" to be held this year on Friday evening, September 17th and Saturday, September 18th, 2004, in Richmond, Indiana. The program starts Friday evening at the Conference Center with dinner at 6:00 pm. Tom Hamm will give an illustrated presentation Friday evening at 7:15 following dinner based on a recent research project. The working title of Tom's presentation is "The Quaker Way of Death: Or Everything You Wanted to Know about Quaker Graveyards, Tombstones, Burial and Death Records, Memorials and Related Matters." Following breakfast at Quaker Hill Conference Center on Saturday morning, the workshop moves to nearby Earlham College to spend the rest of the day in the Friends Collection and Archives in the Lilly Library. Tom Hamm will give an introductory talk about the Friends Collection and participants will then have several hours to pursue their own genealogical research interests working with the materials and resources in the Friends Collection. Tom Hamm will be present to assist and answer questions. Lunch on campus is included. The workshop formally concludes at 4:00 pm on Saturday. For more information and to register, go to the Quaker Hill Conference Center website at <http:www.qhcc.org> or call 765/962-5741. ___________________________

It should be in the paper Tuesday according to Tom Carey. Linda Grove Liberty Township Trustee/Assessor Howard County, Indiana Office: 765.628.2402 Linda Gill Grove Surname Researching: IN: Gill, Stout, Manor, and Mann NYC: Joyce, McAleer, Callaghan and McGregor "Their Story Is Our Story"

Thanks Linda! [email protected] wrote:It should be in the paper Tuesday according to Tom Carey. Linda Grove Liberty Township Trustee/Assessor Howard County, Indiana Office: 765.628.2402 Linda Gill Grove Surname Researching: IN: Gill, Stout, Manor, and Mann NYC: Joyce, McAleer, Callaghan and McGregor "Their Story Is Our Story" ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== Quote from William Gladstone (1809-1897), three-time Prime Minister of England and Victorian contemporary of Benjamin Disraeli: "Show me the manner in which a nation or community cares for its dead and I will measure with mathematical exactness the tender mercies of its people, their respect for the laws of the land, and their loyalty to high ideals." --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage!

Linda, I was looking for your interview in the Kokomo Tribune, but could not find it. Do you know when it will run? Thanks for the good work. I look forward to seeing it. I did find an Aug. 19th article on Tillet Cemetery in Miami Co. I contacted the Co Coordinators & sent info to Brad for the web-site. Theresa Berghoff [email protected] wrote: If you do not mind, I would like to brag about an upcoming event. United Way, under the Volunteer Action Committee in Kokomo is sponsoring their 13th Day of Caring on Saturday, September 11, 2004. "Times are tough and good volunteers are hard to find, but they will have hundreds of them ready to assist your organization with just about any project on your wish list." This morning the Kokomo Tribune came out to one of our township cemeteries to take action pictures for a preview story before the event. I was shocked that they called me and wanted an interview. Needless to say, I went on and on about the need to restore our cemeteries, etc. back to their proper form. I also gave them scout leaders names who have helped in the past, etc. This is my 3rd time using United Way - the results have been fantastic! This may be a good resource for your area. Regards, Linda Linda Grove Liberty Township Trustee/Assessor Howard County, Indiana Office: 765.628.2402 Linda Gill Grove Surname Researching: IN: Gill, Stout, Manor, and Mann NYC: Joyce, McAleer, Callaghan and McGregor "Their Story Is Our Story" ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== This list is for discussion of topics related to the Indiana Pioneer Cemeteries Restoration Project only. Please do not send genealogical queries through this list. The surname and geographic Mailing Lists on Rootsweb at http://lists.rootsweb.com are a better venue. Thank you. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now.

Brad, I just checked your work on the web, a great improvement - you've done a great service to our message. I was wondering, why isn't the Attica cemetery linked? I sent you pictures of the damage a while ago. - Mary Volmer

I just checked out the "How NOT to repair a headstone" feature on the INPCRP website. I was shocked by the stones from the Round Hill Cemetery in Perry Twsp., Marion Co. Who made this mess? Thanks Brad for the horrible images. They certainly make a point. Theresa --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers!

Tomorrow night Thursday Aug.26th 7:30p.m. WFYI Channel 20 (PBS) Repeat Saturday Aug. 28th 3:30p.m. "Communities Building Community - Generartions Apart,Generations Together " Mrs. Judy O'Bannon visits Noble County's Stewart-Greisinger Cemetery. Featuring restoration work by Mark, Helen, & others. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages!

Rich: As far as I know, she never wrote an article, nor did she interview me or anybody else that I know of. Sort of like all the rest of the ones that are going to do so much. I've been gone, too. Have kept up with the list, but it appears that they are all out selling T-shirts or something. Pretty quiet. I'm proud to say we (Bob Hill & Co.) have cleaned and restored 2 more cemeteries. Not big ones, but significant sites. Mariah Creek has fallen by the wayside, as they all do. The State of Indiana DHPA, DNR Law Enforcement and the So-called "Cemetery Registry" have all dropped the ball on this one, just like so many before. Seems like you don't hear too much about the State having anything to do with cemetery preservation this summer. They have just kind of faded away like the rest of them. Wonder what they ever did with all that paperwork? It sounded good when they were collecting it. Like they were going to do so much. Still waiting on the C.O. to return my calls. Jon Andrews >From: "Rich Green" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Ruth Holladay Article >Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:49:20 -0500 > >Hello All, > >Apparently, the article hasn't run. I just dug out my letter to Ms. >Holladay and it is dated July 1st. I've been pretty busy for the past >several weeks and unable to follow up on this. Man how time flies when >you're busy! > >Last I heard she was going to interview some of the Knox County folks about >what is going on down there. I wonder if this has happened yet? I sure >hate to see this one fall by the wayside. The church site is truly >important in terms of early Indiana history, not to mention the 200 or more >people still buried there in unmarked graves. > >Anyway, I appreciate all who took time to look into this and answer my >query. > >Very Best Regards, > >Rich Green >Historic Archaeological Research >4338 Hadley Court >West Lafayette, IN 47906 >Office: (765) 464-8735 >Mobile: (765) 427-4082 >www.har-indy.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sharon Howell > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 1:54 PM > Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Ruth Holladay Article > > > I also check under Mariah Creek Cemetery and didn't find anything. >Mariah > is how it's pronounced; it's been spelled both ways. > > Sharon Howell > > > > > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== > "Show me your cemeteries, and I will tell you what kind of people you >have." > Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790) > > > >==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE, send message consisting only of >"UNSUBSCRIBE" to [email protected] > or to [email protected] (for DIGEST version) > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

Thanks everyone for all the support and suggestions. Now I just have to find the time to follow up on all of them! To answer questions: This first time I'm only taking 16 students, and they're all in my gifted/talented art classes. All very good kids that listen well and seem to be very excited about this project. I have one other staff memeber going as well, and I'm hoping for some big strong parents to step forward as volunteers. (We have til October 4th.) The community is pretty poor and isn't exactly known for service...we're in Hendricks county with Brownsburg and Avon, but we're in the Southern half where its mostly still country. Our school is very small. The township trustee is more than happy to let us do this, but it sounds like he is working multiple low-paying jobs, so he barely gets time to mow the cemeteries. I don't want to push too much because it sounds like he's doing all he can. I've found two local community groups that are just itching to start some things...so I think I'll have my startup fees covered. We'll see about later...I'm not sure how long it will last. I'm in the process of trying to write everything up with prices so I can get that rolling. Jeannie has been very helpful. She just has the cemetery loction but no more, so I'll be filling out the registry form. I looked at the other websites, just haven't had time to do anything with them yet! Thank you so much for all the help! > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 > Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:49:56 -0700 (PDT) > From: Theresa Berghoff <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Cemetery Field Trip > > Jessica, > This sounds like a great project. Will you > need adult volunteers to work with the students? > Will the Township Trustee who is responsible for the > cemetery pick up the cost of some cleaning supplies? > The Trustee is certainly getting a good deal with > the free labor. > > If the cemetery has not been added to the > Indiana Pioneer Cemetery and Burial Ground Registry, > your class could complete the survey sheets. Contact > Jeanie Regan-Dinius of the DNR division of Historic > Preservation and Archeology for info. There is some > grant money available through the DNR-DHPA. Jeanie > can tell you if the project would qualify for that. > [email protected] > > Historic Landmarks Foundation of Indiana and > the Indiana Humanities Council sponsor Heritage > Preservation Education Grants. You can check these > out at > www.historiclandmarks.org/help/grants/.html > or www.ihc4u.org/hpeg.htm > > The Indana Historical Society has > educational material available that may help with > research. www.indianahistory.org > > Rhonda Stoffer, LA Clugh, and others on this > list have done similar projects, so maybe you will > hear from them. > > > Theresa Berghoff > _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush

Hello All, Apparently, the article hasn't run. I just dug out my letter to Ms. Holladay and it is dated July 1st. I've been pretty busy for the past several weeks and unable to follow up on this. Man how time flies when you're busy! Last I heard she was going to interview some of the Knox County folks about what is going on down there. I wonder if this has happened yet? I sure hate to see this one fall by the wayside. The church site is truly important in terms of early Indiana history, not to mention the 200 or more people still buried there in unmarked graves. Anyway, I appreciate all who took time to look into this and answer my query. Very Best Regards, Rich Green Historic Archaeological Research 4338 Hadley Court West Lafayette, IN 47906 Office: (765) 464-8735 Mobile: (765) 427-4082 www.har-indy.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharon Howell To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Ruth Holladay Article I also check under Mariah Creek Cemetery and didn't find anything. Mariah is how it's pronounced; it's been spelled both ways. Sharon Howell ==== INPCRP Mailing List ==== "Show me your cemeteries, and I will tell you what kind of people you have." Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790)

I also check under Mariah Creek Cemetery and didn't find anything. Mariah is how it's pronounced; it's been spelled both ways. Sharon Howell