Thank you Shannon for your opinion on this topic as always it is interesting to hear from all forums on a subjects. However, I would like to point out that there would not be such a desire for the cemetery records if they were so readily available. The lookup volunteers are not as easy to find as you make it sound. Most of the wonderful sites you mentioned that work hard to provide FREE information, also have many lookup persons doing it for a fee. And in the way you put that statement about the FREE info you are implying that the info on the Myfamily sites are NOT free. While the myfamily.com sites might be a "closed membership" it is available to anyone wishing to ask for an invitation, there are no prerequisites for joining and no fees for anything. It is closed for the express purpose of maintain a secure environment for persons placing personal data on these pages that they may not want accessible to just anyone on the internet. Not everyone viewing these records on the internet has pure genealogical purposes in mind. And, oh were it were so that I could just take over 700 pages and stick them online. What we have on our pages is far from that. I have REWALKED many of the cemeteries in Owen county, Putnam county and Morgan county, and in some cases crawled up and down inclines. That fact showing in the case that many, many of the persons I have listed in the burials ARE NOT listed in the DAR records. While they are wonderful records, some are in error. As in the case of some of my ancestors who are marked in their records as "died", well, yes I know they died or they wouldn't be in a cemetery, and in those cases the dates are VERY clearly marked on those stones. I have those on video tape. It interests me that you should be so sure that I have not walked those cemeteries.I have walked cemeteries in the last 30 years in places you most likely have never heard of.Records placed on our page so far were from my personal files that I have recorded.Much from info of persons who were at the burials of those persons. Items I have asked for to be donated were of persons who may also have the same type of records and I truly cannot imagine any genealogist not having some. The page on myfamily.com would not have been created if there hadn't seemed to be a void existing in the materials already online. Would I have gone to the trouble in doing this page and putting up the records I have worked so hard to obtain if there were an existing source readily available? Also, the page was created as a companion piece for our mailing list to be used for persons donating items that were either too lengthy to be placed on the list or too varied in their content. I have to wonder why everyone is so very interested in this page, it was created for simple exchanging of data by like persons who were not finding pertinent info in existence. A pool of data, so to speak. I feel I have defended the page and its creation too much lately. We are not USGenWeb or of any organization, we have few persons in comparison,BUT that doesn't make it entirely wrong, and that doesn't take away its right or reason to exist.Anyone could create a similar page, I just saw a need and had a desire. I think there has been far too much discussion on this mailing list regarding this page. Those who are members know where to find us and those who care to join know how to do that also. Debbie Jennings debj@comsys.net "Following the footprints through time"