Just a comment on 'youthening' as the years pass: As I'm sure you know, many of us do this. I would expect the earlier records to be the more accurate. Parents might forget a child's exact age, but the difference is likely to be slight. However, the reporting of an older fellow's age would likely be a reflection of his health and appearance - if he shaved some years off his age, he likely thought he could get away with the deceptioin, and if others reported his age as too young, it was probably because he was quite healthy and vigorous and gave the appearance of relative youth. Just a thought; I could be completely wrong. However, I have proof that my great-grandfather successfully shaved 8 years from his age; at 70 his co-workers thought he was 62, and his photos show he had an easy time in the lie. Elizabeth Chain researching Hilsabeck, Fulk, Volk, Fiscus, Arney, Elsberry, Duling, Speas, as well as Jordan, Hayes, Schenk, Williams, Gowen, Bull, Chain, Noaker ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 4:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [INOWEN] Noah Henry Rednour b. ca18-5/12 m Permelia Hayden I'm looking for the family of Noah Henry REDNOUR b. ca1805/12 VA. >From family info it would seem that he parents /grandparents were from the Black Forest Region of Germany.....Alsace area of Germany. Also from the info I have obtained, Noah Henry was a Chairmaker by trade. I do not have a definate dod for him but believe it to be ca1863 time frame possibly in KY or VA, depending on who's family lore you listen to. Noah's age is a question as the census records I have on him are very different on his age.....he actually got younger by the years?? So that is a estimate of dob for him. The first record of Noah Henry I have is his marriage in Orange Co.IN: Permelia C. Haden......Noah Redenour......29 May 1845.....Bk.C-2 page 143 There is a second listing as such: Permelia Haden....Noah Redonowe....same date...bk.C3 page19.......so as you can see, the name can and was spelled many different ways. Permelia's name was HAYDEN and she was b. 25 Jan 1830 Mercer Co.KY. Were his parents living in Orange Co.IN or close by in another county?? Did they remain in VA?? Did he come to IN by himself?? They next lived in Monroe Co.IN, then moved on to their final home in Owen Co.IN, Franklin Twp, a town called Freedom,IN. If anyone has any ties to this line, I would like to hear from you and compare family information. thanks, N.J.Skinner White [email protected] "Remember the days of old; consider the generations long past." (Deuteronomy 32:7a) ==== INOWEN Mailing List ==== Please visit our companion website: Sweet Owen and Surrounding Areas at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rowan/index.html (you may need to cut and paste this the first time)