At 11:56 PM 10/25/2000, R. W. Smith wrote: >I think and therefore I've a problem. Who to fwd off list email to when >subjects of interest come up. When its on list, no problem, everyone >gets it. I think I'll draw up a tree with all my "cousins" at the >bottom all color coded and then I can look at the wall, (I do a lot of >that) and pick out whom ever will be interested. Or I could just say >dang and send the msg to everyone. Let the chips fall and let everyone >else worry about the delete button.;) This is the procedure I strongly recommend Dick. I rather think that a majority of the 'missing' relatives are found through reading someone else's postings who would never have dreamed that it would be valuable to someone else on the list. I certainly sympathize with the reluctance to post material to a mailing list that only pertains to a select number of readers. Perhaps in the early days of the internet there was some merit in keeping message volume down - in today's environment it is far less a problem than it was in the past. Remember that the primary reason that most of us subscribe to a mailing list is to read material that addresses out interest - if there are readers amongst us who filter for only "their" surname(s) they will inevitably miss a small detail that unlocks a mystery. While I have this soapbox out - may I plead with each of you, post to the list please. Sure it is material that you and Bill in Biloxi have in common - neither of you have any idea that Marie in Manitoba has been looking for the information you are exchanging as well. Posting it on list will help out everyone reading it. Thanks!

I think and therefore I've a problem. Who to fwd off list email to when subjects of interest come up. When its on list, no problem, everyone gets it. I think I'll draw up a tree with all my "cousins" at the bottom all color coded and then I can look at the wall, (I do a lot of that) and pick out whom ever will be interested. Or I could just say dang and send the msg to everyone. Let the chips fall and let everyone else worry about the delete button.;) Dick Smith Biggers and more dws@cet.com

Thanks, for answering my email. I have several families in Owen Co I'm researching. I haven't been able to locate John C H Norris after his marriage to Mary Arthur, I need to prove who his parents were, I believe they were Samuel Norris & Keziah Duling, but need to locate info supporting this. I see you have a death date for Mary Arthur Norris of Jan 20, 1901-- do you know where she died or where her death info is from? Is Arthur -- spelled Arthur or Arter, I found WPA records listing both. Thanks, Kathy ----------------------------------- Owen County, Indiana Index to Birth Records A-Z 1882-1920 Norris Nellie John Mary Arthur F - Sept 23 1886 H-1 222 Norris Jno C H Mary Arthur F W May 20 1885 H-1 150 ----------------------------------- Owen County, Indiana Index to Marriage Records K-Z Book 1 Vol 2 1850-1920 Norris John C H Mary Arter Aug 9 1875 30 467 (s/o Saml & Kizziah) Arter Mary John C H Norris Aug 9 1875 30 467 ----------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. W. Smith" <dws@cet.com> To: <INOWEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [INOWEN] Norris family of Owen Co > Kathy, > I can't help much but Mary Arthur b. abt 1851, died Jan 20, 1901, > married Aug 9, 1875 to John C. H. Norris was distant kin to my family. > Rueben Arther (Arter) married ? Johnson, son Thomas A. married Julia Ann > Johnson. Mary was one of their children. Julia was a descendent of > Jacob Light and Ann Russel through their son Mathias Light and Mary > Catherine Moore and their daughter Hester Ann who married James Johnson. > Mary Arthur was my 2nd Cousin 4 times removed. Also after Mary's mother > died her father married my great grandaunt Sarah Bigger Ritter a widow > about thirty years his junior. Several of my cousins in Illinois and > Indiana have closer ties to the Arthur's and maybe the Johnson's. John > C. is the only Norris listed in my database but I'm sure that some one > out there has more on the Norris, Scott, Moore and Courtney connections. > > Dick Smith > Biggers and more > dws@cet.com > Spokane > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "K Hembree Bargerhuff" <philly@netusa1.net> > To: <INOWEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 6:50 AM > Subject: [INOWEN] Norris family of Owen Co > > > > Searching for information on the following Norris family members: > > Francis or Fannie E. Norris b. 1846 OH married 1st. Warren T Moore- > 2nd. > > marr. John E. Scott; > > Margaret A. Norris marr. James Courtney 1872 Owen Co; > > John C. H. Norris b. 1875 marr. Mary Arthur 1875 Owen; > > > > I can find no info on these families after their marriages in Owen Co. > Can > > anyone connect. Kathy Bargerhuff > > > > > > ==== INOWEN Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > ==== INOWEN Mailing List ==== > > >

Kathy, I've picked up a few things from some of my (our) "cousins" through contacts from the INOWEN site. I have at hand a copy of a letter from Shirley Henderson of Lakin, KS dated Aug 27, 1990. She was 65 at the time and I made contact with her this year. She is descended from the Johnson's. The letter, addressed to Mrs. John (Doris) Longsdorf of Florida had much to say about their common heritage. The surname Arthur was originally spelled Arter. Mary is among the children listed, as noted below, Mary, b. ca. 1851; called "Marge" in 1860 census d. 10 Jan. 1901, Freedom (Bk. H15, p. 5 m. 9 Aug. 1875, Owen Co., John C. H. Norris, (Bk. 30, p. 467) John died 6 Apr. 1901, Owen Co. (Bk. h15, p. 10) She sites references as follows: Owen County censuses of 1850, 1860, 1870, 1880, and 1900. WPA microfilm roll #45 and # 46, Owen County vital records Owen County, Indiana, Cemetery Listings, pub. by Major Abraham Owen, Dar (1983), pp. 62, 63, 68, 72, 489, 571 and 583 History of Owen County, Indiana (1884) Owen County Circuit Court, marriage records and personal visit to Riverside Cemetery in 1990. Of course there is much more in the letter as it is about 5 pages. Until I can make a trip back to Indiana (probably when I retire) I can't do to much about verification of other peoples data, but it seems to match up. The marriage license application might provide data about his parents, or possibly someone researching related lines may have come up with something to help. By the way, Pearl Edna Arthur, my great grandaunt Sarah's daughter married a Fred Wilson Duling and I have seen queries on the INOWEN site related to the Duling family. ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Hembree Bargerhuff" <philly@netusa1.net> To: <INOWEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [INOWEN] Norris family of Owen Co > Thanks, for answering my email. I have several families in Owen Co I'm > researching. > I haven't been able to locate John C H Norris after his marriage to Mary > Arthur, I need to prove who his parents were, I believe they were Samuel > Norris & Keziah Duling, but need to locate info supporting this. I see you > have a death date for Mary Arthur Norris of Jan 20, 1901-- do you know > where she died or where her death info is from? Is Arthur -- spelled Arthur > or Arter, I found WPA records listing both. Thanks, Kathy > > ----------------------------------- > Owen County, Indiana Index to Birth Records A-Z 1882-1920 > Norris Nellie John Mary Arthur F - Sept 23 1886 H-1 > 222 > Norris Jno C H Mary Arthur F W May 20 1885 H-1 > 150 > ----------------------------------- > Owen County, Indiana Index to Marriage Records K-Z Book 1 Vol 2 1850-1920 > Norris John C H Mary Arter Aug 9 1875 30 467 (s/o Saml > & Kizziah) > Arter Mary John C H Norris Aug 9 1875 30 467 > ----------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "R. W. Smith" <dws@cet.com> > To: <INOWEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 9:19 PM > Subject: Re: [INOWEN] Norris family of Owen Co > > > > Kathy, > > I can't help much but Mary Arthur b. abt 1851, died Jan 20, 1901, > > married Aug 9, 1875 to John C. H. Norris was distant kin to my family. > > Rueben Arther (Arter) married ? Johnson, son Thomas A. married Julia Ann > > Johnson. Mary was one of their children. Julia was a descendent of > > Jacob Light and Ann Russel through their son Mathias Light and Mary > > Catherine Moore and their daughter Hester Ann who married James Johnson. > > Mary Arthur was my 2nd Cousin 4 times removed. Also after Mary's mother > > died her father married my great grandaunt Sarah Bigger Ritter a widow > > about thirty years his junior. Several of my cousins in Illinois and > > Indiana have closer ties to the Arthur's and maybe the Johnson's. John > > C. is the only Norris listed in my database but I'm sure that some one > > out there has more on the Norris, Scott, Moore and Courtney connections. > > > > Dick Smith > > Biggers and more > > dws@cet.com > > Spokane > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "K Hembree Bargerhuff" <philly@netusa1.net> > > To: <INOWEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 6:50 AM > > Subject: [INOWEN] Norris family of Owen Co > > > > > > > Searching for information on the following Norris family members: > > > Francis or Fannie E. Norris b. 1846 OH married 1st. Warren T Moore- > > 2nd. > > > marr. John E. Scott; > > > Margaret A. Norris marr. James Courtney 1872 Owen Co; > > > John C. H. Norris b. 1875 marr. Mary Arthur 1875 Owen; > > > > > > I can find no info on these families after their marriages in Owen Co. > > Can > > > anyone connect. Kathy Bargerhuff > > > > > > > > > ==== INOWEN Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== INOWEN Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > ==== INOWEN Mailing List ==== > >

Kathy, I can't help much but Mary Arthur b. abt 1851, died Jan 20, 1901, married Aug 9, 1875 to John C. H. Norris was distant kin to my family. Rueben Arther (Arter) married ? Johnson, son Thomas A. married Julia Ann Johnson. Mary was one of their children. Julia was a descendent of Jacob Light and Ann Russel through their son Mathias Light and Mary Catherine Moore and their daughter Hester Ann who married James Johnson. Mary Arthur was my 2nd Cousin 4 times removed. Also after Mary's mother died her father married my great grandaunt Sarah Bigger Ritter a widow about thirty years his junior. Several of my cousins in Illinois and Indiana have closer ties to the Arthur's and maybe the Johnson's. John C. is the only Norris listed in my database but I'm sure that some one out there has more on the Norris, Scott, Moore and Courtney connections. Dick Smith Biggers and more dws@cet.com Spokane ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Hembree Bargerhuff" <philly@netusa1.net> To: <INOWEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 6:50 AM Subject: [INOWEN] Norris family of Owen Co > Searching for information on the following Norris family members: > Francis or Fannie E. Norris b. 1846 OH married 1st. Warren T Moore- 2nd. > marr. John E. Scott; > Margaret A. Norris marr. James Courtney 1872 Owen Co; > John C. H. Norris b. 1875 marr. Mary Arthur 1875 Owen; > > I can find no info on these families after their marriages in Owen Co. Can > anyone connect. Kathy Bargerhuff > > > ==== INOWEN Mailing List ==== > >

Searching for the family of William Murphy and wife, Milly Baker, married May 08, 1856, Owen Co, IN. Thanks, K Bargerhuff ----- Original Message ----- From: <WCraw4217@aol.com> To: <INOWEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 9:33 AM Subject: [INOWEN] Owen Co. Bakers and Hockmans > George C. Baker married Malinda Hockman in Owen Co. > They had: > Thomas Jefferson Baker, 1857, m. Amanda Faulkner, 1880 > Sarah Baker , 1859 > Harman Hartley Baker > Nancy Baker > John Baker > > Owen County names: > CLARK, HAYS, FAULKNER, BAKER, HOCKMAN > Is anyone else looking for these familys? > > Bill > > > ==== INOWEN Mailing List ==== > > >

George C. Baker married Malinda Hockman in Owen Co. They had: Thomas Jefferson Baker, 1857, m. Amanda Faulkner, 1880 Sarah Baker , 1859 Harman Hartley Baker Nancy Baker John Baker Owen County names: CLARK, HAYS, FAULKNER, BAKER, HOCKMAN Is anyone else looking for these familys? Bill

Searching for information on the following Norris family members: Francis or Fannie E. Norris b. 1846 OH married 1st. Warren T Moore- 2nd. marr. John E. Scott; Margaret A. Norris marr. James Courtney 1872 Owen Co; John C. H. Norris b. 1875 marr. Mary Arthur 1875 Owen; I can find no info on these families after their marriages in Owen Co. Can anyone connect. Kathy Bargerhuff

Hello! Names mentioned in the last mailing do not ring any bells with me, But John Isaac Phipps would certainly fit the time frame that some of my ancestors were in the area. Another trail to check ! Dana

Phipps, I am from the line which includes John Isaac Phipps who dies in October 1897. He was the father of Edith Josephine Phipps who was my gr-gr-grandmother. His wife was Piety Goad Andrews. These are the oldest Phipps generation that I have record of. Are we connected in some way Dana? Thanks April

I don't connect in any way other than I went to high school with some Phipps and they were cousins to each other.. They lived on the Clay/Putnam line... About 10 years ago give or take a few -- Herman Phipps died -- I am not sure where the funeral was held but it seems like it was either Lawson's in Brazil or Hopkins-Rector in Greencastle and I really think that is where it was held. in Greencastle -- I am sure his death will be recorded in Putnam co but I have been sure before and been in error. untill I actually saw it. The boys went to Clay co schools but only because the mailbox was on clay co side. they really lived in Putnam co the house is on the LINE -- the kids that live there NOW go to Greencastle schools. but they may have had a reason to transfer schools. They had a rough time and they are not Phipps connected. Hope this helps. On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 00:49:24 EDT Popekid2@aol.com writes: >Hello! I am researching my family of Phipps' who came through the >Owen >County area during the mid 1800s. Washington Hamilton Phipps, Mathew >and >Mathursa Tolliver Phipps and James Denver and Minetta Belle Phipps, to >name a >few. Looking forward to connecting with everyone, have info, will >share! >Dana > > >==== INOWEN Mailing List ==== >Been out of town? Check with the INOwen county Archives to see what >you missed. >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

At 12:49 AM 10/23/2000 EDT, you wrote: >Hello! I am researching my family of Phipps' who came through the Owen >County area during the mid 1800s. Washington Hamilton Phipps, Mathew and >Mathursa Tolliver Phipps and James Denver and Minetta Belle Phipps, to name a >few. Looking forward to connecting with everyone, have info, will share! >Dana > > >==== INOWEN Mailing List ==== >Been out of town? Check with the INOwen county Archives to see what >you missed. >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > >

Hello! I am researching my family of Phipps' who came through the Owen County area during the mid 1800s. Washington Hamilton Phipps, Mathew and Mathursa Tolliver Phipps and James Denver and Minetta Belle Phipps, to name a few. Looking forward to connecting with everyone, have info, will share! Dana

10-22-00 Hello i am interested in the information you have on the Ellen Beaver that you mentioned in your post to the Owen Co. IN. I gggGrandmother was a Beaver and married and had relatives in the area. If you don't mind giving me the info. My gggGrandmothers name was Amanda D. Beaver. Thanks Tammie Email at RaysSunflower@aol.com

After reading the article in the OCHGS quarterly about the NEED families I am curious as to the Thomas J.SCOTT mentioned who married Malinda NEED 5 Apr 1855 Owen Co.IN....It stated that he was her first husband. Does anyone know what family this Thomas SCOTT was from? As the NEED and my SCOTT family were all from Carroll Co.OH, migrating to Owen Co.IN and I was wondering if this Thomas could be the son of my John SCOTT b. 1790 Ireland and Ellen BEAVER b. 1802 PA? He was born ca1835. Bob Matkins{author of article} had no further information on him. Anyone that can help, I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks, N.J.Skinner White in MI. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --

There were several of the Vosses in Owen Co. Indiana in the early 1800's. I am particularly interested in Clement and Mary or May Voss and their son Lorenzo Dow Voss. Anybody with info on any of these people please contact Dwayne Voss at: 3vbulls@eoni.com

This horned in reply is to Teresa Thompson. My Greatgreatgrandfather Joshua Harlow died in Owen co Ind. His estate papers bear the signatures of George Thompson marr to Celia Wright, & Joseph Thompson marr to Nancy Arnold. Joshua Harlow died in 1848, & his will was probated in Owen county. Anyone recognize these Thompson lines. The Estate papers are in the Spencer Pub lib archives in Spencer Ind.

Terresa Thompson, In going through the Owen postings that have accumulated in my mail, I noticed yours. Jacob Light was my 6th great grandfather. I did/do not have his parents listed. There are numerous cousins that are subscribers to the Owen County list and will probably have more information than I have. I'm descended through Mathias Light's son Abner Light and Abner's first wife Elizabeth Burkett and their son Israel and Elizabeth Ellen Vaughn. There are other connections along the way that make things interesting. Both my maternal grandparents are descended from Israel and Elizabeth (Vaughn) Light. (They were 3rd cousins). How much information do you have on Jacob and his father Ebon. My cousin Sharon and I only had Jacobs name no dates and nothing on his father. Of course we've been spending an inordinate amount of time on the brick wall on our 4th great grandfather James Bigger, several of whose descendents married descendents of the Lights. Another chink in the wall blocking the lights at the end of a tunnel, several of our cousins are more closely descended from the Lights. It would be nice to find a Bigger light! Dick Smith Biggers and more dws@cet.com Spokane ----- Original Message ----- From: "T. Thompson" <tethomps@bluemarble.net> To: <INOWEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 1:18 PM Subject: [INOWEN] Lights in Owen County Indiana > I just noticed your name as you withdrew from the Owen County message board. > > I go back to Ebon Light 1725-1805 > Jacob Light 1743-1818 > Mathias "Tyce" Light 1769-18?? Harrison Co, In. > Bird Light 1805-1888 Owen Co., In > Mary "Polly" Light 1834 > > I have quite a few of the side Light families. Be glad to look and see if > your branch is in my database. > > Terresa > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <SLight3260@aol.com> > To: <INOWEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 2:53 PM > Subject: Re: [INOWEN] EASTERN DIVISION > > > > unsubscribe > > > > > > ==== INOWEN Mailing List ==== > > To get the most out of your posting please use your subject lines > > effectively and don't recycle others. > > > > > ==== INOWEN Mailing List ==== > >

you might check with Clay City census for this Murphy. On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 09:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Debbie Jennings <debbiej_2001@yahoo.com> writes: >I am researching the TRUAX family surname in Owen >county as it pertains to the descendants of William >and >Ailcy (Combs) Truax. >I descend through 4 of their 10 children. Although >there could be more connections in there somewhere. > >1) Hannah born about 1794 married James BALDON/BOLDON > (son of Thomas). They were married 11-30-1814 in > Nelson county KY. She died 7-29-1834 and he re- > married Matilda Nutterfield. > I also connect through the BALDON and NUTTERFIELD > lines through other areas, so I am interested in > these also. > What I am wondering is that James and Hannah were > married for 20 years and I have not found any > records of children for them. In that time frame > it seems unusual to have had no children in 20 > years. > >2) Elizabeth born 7-10-1796 married James EVANS (son > of Andrew). > >3) Samuel born about 1799 married Elizabeth BALDON > (daughter of Thomas & sister to the James BALDON > mentioned above). > >4) James born 3-19-1802 married 1st Mariah Sarah > BALDON (daughter of Thomas & sister of the above > James & Elizabeth). Mariah died in 1838 and James > remarried to Arlitta CHAMBERS (daughter of ??). > >5. Cynthia born 2-6-1807 married Benjamin MURPHY (son > of Charles).This Benjamin MURPHY was also the > brother of Mary Ann MURPHY who married McKinney > BALDON (another son of Thomas & brother of the > above mentioned James,Elizabeth, and Mariah). > >6. Edward born about 1784 who married a Rebecca > TRUAX. I have no idea whose daughter she is but > I have every confidence that it ties into the > family line at some point. > >There is another daughter Emmaline who married a >William A. Bolden (or variation) and I have no idea if >this is a tie in or not. >The above mentioned parents were born in Monmouth >county NJ (him) and Cumberland Co. PA (her). They met >and married in Nelson county KY and migrated to Wayne >twp in Owen county and the majority of them are buried >at the Old section of the Little Mount Cemetery there. >ANY INFO, on these names will be appreciated and I am >more then happy to exchange info > >===== >Debra Jennings >debbiej_2001@yahoo.com >"Following the footprints through time" > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. >http://im.yahoo.com/ > > >==== INOWEN Mailing List ==== > > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

will try to dig up some old papers on Lucy's siblings. On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 06:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Debbie Jennings <debbiej_2001@yahoo.com> writes: >I am researching the MASSEY family line that I believe >were in the Putnam/Owen county area about 1831. >Lucy MASSEY married John EVANS 3-24-1831 in Owen >county. >Parents of Lucy are thought to be: >Jonathan MASSEY and Francis(Franky)DAVIS >I have what I think is a marriage date for them of >11-24-1797 in Grainger county TN. >I only know of one child which is Lucy born in 1809 in >KY and who died before 4-9-1865 in Douglas county >Illinois. >Any help would be much appreciated > >===== >Debra Jennings >debbiej_2001@yahoo.com >"Following the footprints through time" > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. >http://im.yahoo.com/ > > >==== INOWEN Mailing List ==== > > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.