Listmembers, I really must apologize for overlooking a couple of particular groups of persons when I created the Sweet Owen website. Although the following question might not seem proper to ask, I feel in order to service all the researchers I must find the answer. Please respond to me privately if it pertains to you. Are there any researchers of the counties covered on the Sweet Owen Site researching either the African American lines or the Native American lines? In all fairness to all researchers I feel that these areas should be covered if they can be of use to anyone out there. I should have thought of these earlier on.... Wishing you ancestral searching success, Debbie Jennings Please check websites below: Sweet Owen County IN <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/">http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/</A> Kentuckiana Home <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/">http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/ </A>

The following came from another list, but I found it so very true that I felt someone on our list might get a laugh from it. THE WORM'S EYE VIEW: EASY DUZ IT by Beth Maltbie Uyehara [email protected] Hi. My name is Beth M. U., and I'm a geneaholic. My story's not a pretty one. I am sharing it here in the hope that it may help others avoid my pitiful fate. If you, too, are addicted to genealogy, I want you to know that you are not alone. There are thousands of us worldwide struggling in the daily battle against this cunning, baffling and powerful addiction. There was something "different" about me from the get-go. Looking back, the signs were there for all to see. Even as a child, when relatives threw old Daguerreotypes in the trash, I would fish around among the coffee grounds and egg shells and pull them out. When old letters or diaries were discovered in musty trunks, I stayed up all night reading them. Obits, report cards, discharge papers, photos of unknown people: I hoarded them all. I didn't care what kind of document it was, or who it concerned -- if it was remotely connected to "family," I had to have it. I'm making no excuses. I had a good upbringing. Genealogy certainly doesn't run in my family -- I come from a long line of people who could take their ancestors or leave them alone. Yes, there were rumors of an aunt on my father's side who "did a little research on weekends," but she covered her tracks well, and I have never been able to prove for certain that she was a geneaholic. Aside from that one suspect, my relatives were all what we call "social genealogists." For them, a colorful forebear or two were good for party conversations, to be chuckled over at family gatherings, and that was it. Not me. Right from the beginning, I was out of control. I could never stop with just one or two ancestors. Every ancestor I found triggered an insatiable craving in me for two more, and four more after that, and eight more after that. I could not stop once I got started. Eventually, genealogy took over my life. Bouts of compulsive research would leave me babbling incoherently, slumped exhausted, sometimes barely conscious, at a microfilm reader in some darkened room, surrounded by other addicts satisfying their own shameful cravings for genealogical kicks. Many are the times I've been thrown out of a library at closing time, kicking and screaming, begging for just five minutes more, just "one more ancestor for the road." It was humiliating. As the years went by, things went from bad to worse. It was an endless downward spiral. I found myself sneaking from library to library in distant parts of town, even in other cities and states, searching for the ultimate high -- that mysterious immigrant ancestor, whose identity would make everything fall into place. I hit bottom one hot August day in a cemetery in a far-off state. How I got there doesn't matter. Let's just say that after much research, I had located the grave of an ancestor who -- according to family legend -- had died in some kind of accident. As I stared at the weathered, old tombstone, wondering how I could find out how he had died, the thought occurred to me: "I could dig him up and see." Immediately, I recoiled, aghast. "Eeeeeuuuuuuu," I cried, "yuk! That's gross." That's when I knew I needed help. Since that moment of clarity, I've joined numerous genealogy support groups where we offer each other strength and hope, along with research tips and potluck dinners. And I have finally admitted, to myself and to other human beings, that I am powerless over genealogy and my research has become unmanageable. It may be too late for me. But, science has found that young family historians -- those who are, as yet, only potential geneaholics -- can sometimes stop in time. Answer these questions to see if you are in the early stages of addiction. * Home: Has genealogical paperwork taken over any room in your house? * Friends: Is genealogy interfering with your social life? Do people edge away from you at parties when you burst into tears over the 1890 U. S. census? * Family: Do your relatives' eyes glaze over when you explain your latest research? Do you find dead people more fun than live ones? * Work: Is genealogy interfering with your job? How many hours of each workday do you spend on the Internet, or checking your RootsWeb e-mails? * Marriage: Has your spouse ever asked you, "Aren't you done yet? How far back are you planning to go?" * Health: Are you starting to show the physical and mental signs of geneaholic deterioration, such as red-rimmed eyes, a loss of interest in current events, a shortened attention span for non-ancestral topics, excessive viewing of the History Channel? If you answered yes to even one of these questions, you are on the road to genealogical addiction. You must not research even one more ancestor! You must stop NOW, before it's too late! When you feel an overwhelming urge to research, repeat the following until the urge goes away: "My mother found me in a cabbage patch. My mother found me in a cabbage patch. My mother found me in a cabbage patch." Good luck and God help you. Wishing you ancestral searching success, Debbie Jennings Please check websites below: Sweet Owen County IN <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/">http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/</A> Kentuckiana Home <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/">http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/ </A>

I don't think there is a standard length of time. You might guess it would be within a year. Sometimes it took longer to get it all settled and it would straddle the next year. nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 6:53 AM Subject: [INOWEN] probate time > does anyone have any idea of the "standard" time between a death and a will > being probated? > > Wishing you ancestral searching success, > Debbie Jennings > Please check websites below: > Sweet Owen County IN > <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/">http://www.angelfire.com/in4/ sweetowen/</A> > Franklin CountyVermont Genweb > <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~vtfrankl/Franklin.html">Franklincounty VT </A> > Kentuckiana Home > <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/">http://www.angelfire.co m/ky3/kentuckianahome/</A> > > > ==== INOWEN Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the INOWEN mail list - > new subscribers should check the mail list archives at: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=inowen > for rules and regulations, and should familiarize > themselves how this mail list works, and we all > benefit.Please visit our companion website: Sweet Owen and Surrounding Areas at > http://angelfire.lycos.com/in4/sweetowen > (you may need to cut and paste this the first time)

does anyone have any idea of the "standard" time between a death and a will being probated? Wishing you ancestral searching success, Debbie Jennings Please check websites below: Sweet Owen County IN <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/">http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/</A> Franklin CountyVermont Genweb <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~vtfrankl/Franklin.html">Franklincounty VT </A> Kentuckiana Home <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/">http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/</A>

Here's still a puzzle. Perhaps you have seen this man in your travels amonst the censuses. He is a nephew of our Pleasant W. SCOTT who married Catherine HOn. John S. SCOTT, son of John T. M. SCOTT & Mary ABRELL, born 1856-1857. Perhaps his wife's name was Laura. 1860 census with parents in Owen Co. IN, Franklin Twp. age 3. 1870 census with parents in Illinois, Christian County, Pana Township, age 13. Photograph of Aunt Laura taken in Springfield, MO. Obituary of his brother, M. DeLafayette Scott, says that at that time, 1926, John S. Scott, of Kansas City, was visiting in Newberry, IN, but was too sick to attend the funeral. Where was John S. Scott in 1880? Several single men of that name are in Missouri & Kansas working in lumber or building railroads. When & where was he married? Did he really marry Laura? If not, who is Aunt Laura? Are any of John's descendants out there doing genealogy? John T. M. Scott, father of John S. & M. DeLafayette, was the son of Samuel & Milly (FOSTER) SCOTT of Owen County, IN. Grateful for any clues. Nancy Scott

Nancy and list It never ceases to amaze me at how many times this particular subject is covered on mailing lists, I for one always assumed it to be a "given" that NO INFO ON LIVING PERSONS SHOULD BE ON THE INTERNET. To me this is the same as saying, if you are blind and walk with a seeing eye dog, YOU SHOULDN'T DRIVE A CAR. Nobody should need to say these things. It is my opinion that NO info on any living person should go on the internet with the exception of their name. I myself use a really nice site called Gencircles that allows for the following options: 1. Blocking of any notes on everyone so only basic data is allowed (in this manner only someone really interested is going to want anything further and can contact you later) 2. Blocking notes on only the living Both of these options are in addition to an automatic blocking by them of any living persons in your GEDCOM This allows other researchers access to your data, but not the living ones, without your having to privatize the GEDCOM yourself. I use as a personal rule of thumb a judgment on privatizing depending on just who I am corresponding with. I have several persons whom I converse with regularly and have no problem with sending them anything as I trust their judgment and good sense not to publish on the internet. However, no matter who you are dealing with, I have found recently that some persons just don't make a connection between that data being on the internet and the problems it can cause. Your FTM program should have the ability to privatize your GEDCOM. Look in your instruction book, if not I can let you know how I do it with the FamilyTreeMaker brand. Then again there is the thought that some of these "very distant" cousins living across the continent that you will only exchange briefly with, really have no reason to know the names even of the children that were born last week/month. Many, many times this info is sent to me and I just disregard it as it normally goes so far outside of my lineage that it doesn't matter. And I am definitely NOT one of those that only follows my DIRECT lineage, I go into the siblings as well. In short, if you really MUST place a GEDCOM on the internet I suggest the Gencircle method as it eliminates you having to privatize it yourself, you only make the choice of just who to display your notes section on. Also as a bonus to this, it is cross referenced with the GENDEX system and your names are also listed there. When you list with GENDEX alone there is a fee to do this, going through GENCIRCLES there is no fee. You also have the option of cross referencing with GENEANET another type of program similar to GENDEX, but a broader coverage, (I think in Europe). The GENCIRCLES program will also go through your GEDCOM and let you know if there are any matches with your entries within these programs allowing you to contact those researchers. When anyone sends me data for the Sweet Owen site I not only encourage privatizing I won't place it on the page if it isn't. I also have a cutoff on obituaries-- I won't place any recent ones (within a couple of years) on the site, UNLESS submitted by the immediate family. This is just a sensitivity issue for me. Now on photos, I think if they are submitted of family members that are still living then it is ok as long as the description is limited to : "this is Bob Smith, my uncle" or something to that effect, no dates. Or old school/military photos are fine. As for removing any that are already on the various websites: 1. They should never have been placed there. 2. Any competent webmaster who is also a researcher should be more then happy to remove the whole item on request. This issue is one of the reason that I requested that persons only send me Gen Reports (word documents) for the Family Reports instead of GEDCOM's. First they take less space and also allow you to cut them off prior to any living persons or you can create them in your documents section and privatize them before sending to me. I hope I have answered some questions. Wishing you ancestral searching success, Debbie Jennings Please check websites below: Sweet Owen County IN <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/">http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/</A> Franklin CountyVermont Genweb <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~vtfrankl/Franklin.html">Franklincounty VT </A> Kentuckiana Home <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/">http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/</A>

Looking for a listing for Bernard Jackson in the 1850 Owen county census. His age is unknown however, most likely 29-31. Wife named Rachel, children unknown. Wishing you ancestral searching success, Debbie Jennings Please check websites below: Sweet Owen County IN <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/">http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/</A> Franklin CountyVermont Genweb <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~vtfrankl/Franklin.html">Franklincounty VT </A> Kentuckiana Home <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/">http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/</A>

I need a lookup for the following family in the 1850 Owen county census: I am searching for a family by the surname of ARNETT close in proximity to the Quincy or Taylor/Harrison twp area. There would have been a son in the family named SAMUEL. Wishing you ancestral searching success, Debbie Jennings Please check websites below: Sweet Owen County IN <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/">http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/</A> Franklin CountyVermont Genweb <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~vtfrankl/Franklin.html">Franklincounty VT </A> Kentuckiana Home <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/">http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/</A>

I am needing a lookup for the following famiy in the 1860 Owen county census William S. Pittman age 27 Nancy wife age 30 unknown children Wishing you ancestral searching success, Debbie Jennings Please check websites below: Sweet Owen County IN <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/">http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/</A> Franklin CountyVermont Genweb <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~vtfrankl/Franklin.html">Franklincounty VT </A> Kentuckiana Home <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/">http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/</A>

DOCUMENT: Coffey Bible Records SOURCE: Monroe County (IN) Historical Society, Bible Records, Bible engraved with the names Alfred and Martha J. Coffey (see File Cabinet 1, Drawer 3). DEATHS Martha Jane Coffey died May 29, 1884 Alfred Coffey died June 11, 1885 Margaret A. Eller died May 21, 1893 Hattie A. Brown (difficult to read) died August 1, 1914 McKinney Hickam died July 24, 1921 Laura E. Wood died December 31, 1926 Mary Alice Hickam died July 5, 1935 BIRTHS Martha Jane Coffey was born January 26, 1827 Alfred Coffey was born May 18, 1809 Schuyler Colfax Coffey was born April 7, 1868 (difficult to read) Willie T. Smith was born May 1, 1858 Harriet A. Smith was born March 13, 1850 Maggie A. Smith was born September (illegible), 1852 Mary A. Smith was born December 14 (difficult to read), 185? Laura E. Smith was born August 21, 1847 Orville Hickam was born January 22, 188? M. C. Hickam was born Sept 23, 1854 NOTE: Several obits were attached to this bible record. As nearly as I can remember, they were undated, no source noted, but appeared to be 1925 or after and mostly seemed to be people of Owen County connections.

Ward and Stephens Cemeteries in Marion twp have been added to the Sweet Owen website. Wishing you ancestral searching success, Debbie Jennings Please check websites below: Sweet Owen County IN <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/">http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/</A> Franklin CountyVermont Genweb <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~vtfrankl/Franklin.html">Franklincounty VT </A> Kentuckiana Home <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/">http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/</A>

Thank you for the information on Marion and Brit Brasket Interesting that some use Brasket other Braskett. I did have Marion in Company G, 115th Indiana. He joined for duty July 12, 1863, was accidently wounded in the heel October 14, 1863 and was in the hospital at Knoxville, Tenn. from then through December.1863. I think he mustered out July 25, 1864. Does anyone know what county in TN Catherine Hancock and her family was from???? I wonder if her mother died in IN or TN???? On a hand written page from Probate book of Owen county it lists: Henry Hancock died Sept. 25, 1849 Lists children William, Catharine, Minerva, Harden, Marion, Mary, Owen, Albert, Arington, Charlotte. Lists Albert as being guardian of the children. Does anyone know who this family is??? William Hancock is listed as Catharine's father on the 1880 Madison county census age 56.Could Henry be the brother of William Hancock, father of Catherine???? There is a Benjamin Braskit listed on the 1830 census of Champagne county Ohio. Could be the father of Brit???

I don't have anything on the parents of Richard Stamper. Do you know anything of the children of Mary Brasket and Richard Stamper??? In an old photo album there is a picture of a child, Charlie Stamper, who I think is the son of Richard. Also a picture of a young women listed Aunt Anna Stamper, maybe a sister of Richard?? Sorry I don't have any more right now.

Bruce W. Davis & I have been corresponding in regard to privacy on webpages. It would be good to have some ideas from the rest of you. Bruce & John Davis, my parents, & Walter & I , and many of you, have been doing genealogy for many years. The aim has been twofold: 1) to find the ancestors' records, and 2) to find all the descendants, who are some kind of cousins. There is no trouble about privacy with documenting the ancestors. The issue is around how much information about living people, especially children, to share publicly, especially on the Internet. The teacher of a recent course in genealogy conducted at our Champaign County Archives was very emphatic about not putting the names & data of living people on the Internet, espcially not without their permission, and especially not for children. The reason for this is the possibility of fraud and of stolen identities. Many banks and credit institutions use one's maiden name as identification. Genealogy on webpages is a fertile source for that kind of information. We are finding that people who are strangers but distant cousins are more and more reluctant to share the information about their new babies for this very reason. The big question is how to eliminate living people from the webpages and from the GEDCOMs. Programs are available that will replace dates and places of birth and marriage with the word PRIVATE, but I have not been able to find any program that will cut off the list of descendants at a certain given date. Do you know of a good program to do this? Thanks for listening. Hoping that you will send comments to the INOWEN list for all of us. Thanks. nancy

Listmembers: Perhaps I need to address something before anything is misunderstood. Although I have been eliminating some of my mailing lists (I had 17 of them) this being done in order to: 1. Follow my own research which is quite heavily in Owen county 2. Devote more time to the Sweet Owen website as I truly enjoy the history/genealogy of Owen county and I don't intend to relinquish the list ownership of this list. With the amount of lists I had, it was difficult to devote quality to anything, so if anyone has heard I am not the listowner of Owen county it is just not true. Wishing you ancestral searching success, Debbie Jennings Please check websites below: Sweet Owen County IN <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/">http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/</A> Franklin CountyVermont Genweb <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~vtfrankl/Franklin.html">Franklincounty VT </A> Kentuckiana Home <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/">http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/</A>

Richard, According to the 1820 Kentucky map on page 125 of Thorndale and Dollarhide, MAP GUIDE TO THE U.S. FEDERAL CENSUSES, 1790-1920 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing, 1987), Spencer county, Kentucky was formed primarily from Shelby county and portions from Nelson and Bullitt (in that order). Oldham county land was supplied by Jefferson and Henry counties, with a small portion from Shelby county. Pastor Tim Mohon Gosport, Indiana --- Richard Carter <[email protected]> wrote: > On the 1830 Ky census for Spencer Co Ky, there is a > listing for John > CARTER, MALES 2 under 5..1 5-10.. 1 15-20..1 > 51-60... FEMALES 1 15-20..2 > 20-30... 1 40-50...Also shown in household are > SLAVES, 2 female under 10, > and 1 female 24-36... Also, perhaps 2 males under > 10.. > Next door is a David GLASS, and next to Glass is a > Nancy NUTTERFIELD, 2 > under 5..1 5-10.. > 2 15-20...1-20-30.. 1 30-40.. > With Oldham County being formed in 1823, and > Spencer in 1824, What county > might these 2 listings have been in in 1820??? > > Nancy NUTTERFIELD appears in Owen Co., In in 1840 > census, next door to a > John CARTER... Is this the same John CARTER?? Or, is > one of the teen age > boys the John CARTER who appears in Owen Co??? > Family legend says that John > CARTER Jr., left home young due to his feelings > about slavery.. (ANTI)... > One of her daughters, Eliza married a John CARTER > Jr.,where not known, and > another, Matilda, married a James Baldon, in Owen > County In in 1834... > Any help would be greatly appreciated... > > Dick Carter > [email protected] > > > ==== INOWEN Mailing List ==== > Please visit our companion website: Sweet > Owen and Surrounding Areas at > http://angelfire.lycos.com/in4/sweetowen > (you may need to cut and paste this the first time) > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/

On the 1830 Ky census for Spencer Co Ky, there is a listing for John CARTER, MALES 2 under 5..1 5-10.. 1 15-20..1 51-60... FEMALES 1 15-20..2 20-30... 1 40-50...Also shown in household are SLAVES, 2 female under 10, and 1 female 24-36... Also, perhaps 2 males under 10.. Next door is a David GLASS, and next to Glass is a Nancy NUTTERFIELD, 2 under 5..1 5-10.. 2 15-20...1-20-30.. 1 30-40.. With Oldham County being formed in 1823, and Spencer in 1824, What county might these 2 listings have been in in 1820??? Nancy NUTTERFIELD appears in Owen Co., In in 1840 census, next door to a John CARTER... Is this the same John CARTER?? Or, is one of the teen age boys the John CARTER who appears in Owen Co??? Family legend says that John CARTER Jr., left home young due to his feelings about slavery.. (ANTI)... One of her daughters, Eliza married a John CARTER Jr.,where not known, and another, Matilda, married a James Baldon, in Owen County In in 1834... Any help would be greatly appreciated... Dick Carter [email protected]

Anyone out there ever hear of the Inge family? Surely, they just didn't drop from the sky, stay in Owen county one generation, and then have every trace of them disappear. Russ McCarty > Russ McCarty [email protected]

I have added the following sections to the Sweet Owen website: Gosport Gazette Advertisers for April 7, 1876 Spencer 1860 Businesses Owen County Sharp Shooters(Volunteer Militia) Physicians Licenses Granted in Owen county Wishing you ancestral searching success, Debbie Jennings Please check websites below: Sweet Owen County IN <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/">http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/</A> Franklin CountyVermont Genweb <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~vtfrankl/Franklin.html">Franklincounty VT </A> Kentuckiana Home <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/">http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/</A>

Is anyone out there tracing the STAMPER lineage of Owen county? Wishing you ancestral searching success, Debbie Jennings Please check websites below: Sweet Owen County IN <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/">http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/</A> Franklin CountyVermont Genweb <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~vtfrankl/Franklin.html">Franklincounty VT </A> Kentuckiana Home <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/">http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/</A>