"Jeremiah's Brothers" would be a terrific title for a detective novel -- no one knows! It seems obvious (the genealogist's trap) that Jeremiah was blood kin to Michael: the name Jeremiah persists *strongly* in Michael's line, even to my generation-- and in Jeremiah's line as well. One of my first cousins bears a name that his mother altered from Jeremiah. Jeremiah's descendants are described by his grandson Hamilton, and do NOT include my Michael. He's kin, perhaps, but not a son. Some of us speculate that if there were "four brothers who came from Ireland" their names were probably Jeremiah, Michael (not the known one but perhaps his father), John, and possibly Thomas. (My theory is that they came with the British Army. ) Later in his life Jeremiah was a foundryman in land just north of Pittsburgh; Michael was born on Neville's Island which today is part of the city of Pittsburgh. Michael was a maker of Pennsylvania rifles, ie, also a metal worker. When he served in the War of 1812, he was an "artificer" or gunsmith, as noted on his pay warrant. Michael's first son was named Jeremiah, which could have been in honor of his relative (?) Jeremiah of Beaver County, PA. Problems with this lovely network (which has more pieces than I have described) begin to arise when the genealogist says, "But where's the proof?" Go back to Ireland: no parish records survive or were ever kept in that unknown townland in Tipperary where Jeremiah and his brothers (?) were born. Look at the Revolutionary war records: Jeremiah enlisted a unit which was formed in Pennsylvania of westerners who had served under John Irvine in the continuing wars with the British, French, and Indians in the Ohio territory from the 1760's onward. In his unit was a "Derby Bannon" on one warrant, and a "Michael Bannon" on another. Only Jeremiah ever applied for a pension. Look at early census records -- if you can determine which county to look at. Jeremiah stayed put -- he had a foundry business, and is well-documented. Animap (a program which traces boundary changes in US Counties) goes wild in Pennsylvania between 1790 and 1810. It would take a better historian than I am to re-state all the movements of the lines. I have transcribed heads of household with names that could be Bannon (Bannan, Banum, and lots of others) looking at the males listed, but too many children didn't make it to reliably identify a family by males of young age -- as we all know. Family tradition says that "two brothers", Michael (1788-1870) and another, came down the Ohio River to Cincinnati as boys. Some of us identify that brother as John Bannon, who for fifty years is always found neighboring Michael. The problems are large, and better family historians than I will ever be remain puzzled. In one sentence, no, we don't know that Michael Bannon 1788-1870 had any brothers. But we don't know that he didn't! Kathy > From: karen.zach@sbcglobal.net > To: inmontgo@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 23:13:09 -0400 > Subject: Re: [InMontgo] Census online developments > > So are you saying that Michael Bannon had a brother Jeremiah? Didn't have > any bros/sisters for Michael. I know Michael had a son Jeremiah so I guess > it makes sense Jeremiah for a brother, too. Maybe Jeremiah a father as > well, now, that'd be all > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathleen Lynch" <kslynch62@hotmail.com> > To: <inmontgo@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 10:44 PM > Subject: Re: [InMontgo] Census online developments > > > > And that reminds me, Heritage Quest has good pension files. I think I'd > > better hunt for the Rev. John there! (He is, not so incidentally) the > > father of Nancy Clark Bannon, wife of Michael and mother of James Clark > > Bannon, Rev. Lewis Wesley Bannon, and the others I can't list from memory! > > Tracing him seems to be one possibility for figuring out which Bannon was > > Michael's father (and presumably Jeremiah's brother or cousin). > > Kathy > > > > > > > >> From: karen.zach@sbcglobal.net > >> To: inmontgo@rootsweb.com > >> Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 21:52:17 -0400 > >> Subject: Re: [InMontgo] Census online developments > >> > >> I have access to all but the 1850 -- never could figure why Heritage > >> Quest > >> has not put that one on there. I can't afford Ancestry -- definitely not > >> darn it. I WISH > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Kathleen Lynch" <kslynch62@hotmail.com> > >> To: "Montgomery County" <inmontgo@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 1:37 PM > >> Subject: [InMontgo] Census online developments > >> > >> > >> >I just read something which may excite you, Karen -- > >> > > >> > The 1850 through 1870 (partial) and 1880 and 1900 U.S. Censuses can be > >> > searched currently at FamilySearch.org; all publicly available U.S. > >> > Censuses are already available on Ancestry.com. > >> > > >> > The LDS people are currently adding searchable fields to the 1920 > >> > index, > >> > and I've already noticed that fields which were not indexed before are > >> > now > >> > indexed on some of the earlier censuses. For example, a Rev. War > >> > veteran > >> > (Rev. John Clark) formerly of Maryland showed up on an Ancestry 1840 > >> > index > >> > even though he was not the head of household. He was living with his > >> > son > >> > Barzillia in Warren County, Ohio, but now appears on the index because > >> > he > >> > was a Deerfield Twp Rev. War veteran or pensioner. > >> > > >> > Also, new nineteenth century Philadelphia records have been posted > >> > online > >> > to coincide with the Philadelphia convention this week. > >> > > >> > These are neat developments -- everything online causes rejoicing in > >> > genealogical circles, right? > >> > > >> > Kathy > >> > > >> > > >> > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > >> > > >> > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > >> > >> List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message