Didn't get any word they were up and going but they seem to be working fine now -- YIPPEEEE - hopefully for a long time but ... ya' never know with these clowns :( ENJOY Oh, if you have any Denmans in your family received an awesome Denman bible <http://www.indianagenweb.com/inmontgomery/bibles/denman-absalom.htm> a couple of days ago from Marcy Rose in California -- so greatly appreciated.