Kathleen,  You might consider Schele as the previous spelling for Shelley.  Sharon

Rachel? LaGrange County? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Scism" <Jeff@ibssg.org> To: <inmontgo@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [InMontgo] reading and Amish > Karen Zach wrote: >> This was back in the old days - published 1958 I think. He sure pegs the >> place and the big Amish names, at least. I went through and typed all of >> 'em in for 1910 & 1920 but didn't find a Bontrager with a Rachel, however >> found two with all girls. She talks about her younger sisters but don't >> think she's named them. Nor, her parents - she calls them Father and >> Mother >> Bontrager. Of course, he may have used Bontrager as it had to be one of >> the >> most prominent names there - 57 in 1920 or so. He discusses the kinds of >> fish, what fruits are prominent in the time, it's just really neat. > Its possible that "Father and Mother" were references to Grandparents. > > I have Borntragers/Borndragers in the Peffley tree. > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hey, this is me! What year was that membership number from, Jeff? United *Brethren* Church, Alamo; membership 60 Jeff, Thanks for all the responses, you're right on the migrations...I am already pretty sure the Werts came form New Jersey to Hamilton Co using the Ohio River. Apparently nearly everybody did, so it's a pretty safe guess. Suzy **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215047751x1200957972/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

A SUDDEN SUMMONS JOHN WERT OF WAYNETOWN FALLS FROM TREE AND IS KILLED HIS NECK WAS BROKEN And He Lived Only for a Few Seconds After the Accident — Was a Retired Farmer Waynetown, Ind., June 29 [Saturday] — Friday afternoon at six o'clock at his home in the southeast part of town, John H. Wert fell out of a cherry tree while picking some cherries and broke his neck, dying almost instantly. Deceased was a carpenter and had finished his day's work, and while waiting supper said he would pick some cherries for a pie. Little Herman, the three-year-old son of Mr. and Mrs. Chris Pevler saw him fall and ran into the house and told his mother. The alarm spread immediately. Uncle Billy Pevler, his next door neighbor, got to him first and saw him gasp once faintly. Dr H. M. Bounnell reached there in a short time, but life was extinct and his neck was found to be broken. Mr Wert with his family moved here from his farm south of town, a number of years ago. Besides his wife he leaves one son, Austin, and three step children, Ira Niece of Chicago, Mrs Charlie Williams at Urbana, Ill., and Mrs David Moore, living near here. He has three brothers and three sisters living, Asher, of Crawfordsville, Nathan of Humboldt, Kan., and Joe, at Wallace; Mrs. Mary Myers of Danville, Ill., Mrs. Emma Thomas of Chicago, and Mrs. John Jordan, living here. He was in his sixty-second year, a member of the M-E church. He also belonged to the order of Red Men and Odd Fellows. The burial services will be in charge of them. The funeral services will be held at 2 o'clock Sunday.~The Crawfordsville Journal; Saturday, 29 Jun 1907; p. 1:07 The funeral of John H. Wert took place Sunday. Rev. B.B. Keslar delivered the sermon. The Red Men and Odd Fellows had charge of the burial service, more than a hundred of them marching with the body to the Masonic cemetery. where it was placed at rest by Shuler and Birdcell. ~The Crawfordsville Journal; 6 Jul 1907; p. 10:02 **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215047751x1200957972/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

Waynetown The funeral of John Pickett of Alamo occurred Friday afternoon at his late residence. Mr. Pickett was born in Ohio in 1834, but has lived many years near where he died. He leaves a wife and one daughter, Mrs. Nelson Rush; two sisters, Mrs. Eliza Clouse, and Izabelle Gray; three brothers, Travis, Charlie, and Robert. He was a member of the Alamo I.O.O.F. and of the Christian church. After a short sermon by Rev. P.J. Lough, the order gave their ritualistic work., Messers.Shular, and Birdcell of Waynetown, placed the body at rest in the Alamo cemetery. ---same page, Uncle Jack Pickett, and aged and well-respected citizen of this community died at his hom at an early hour Wednesday morning. ---same page, Emmett and Joe Clouse attended the funeral of their uncle, John Pickett, at Alamo yesterday. ~all the above: The Crawfordsville Journal; Saturday, 6 July 1907; p3:01 **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215047751x1200957972/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

Limequilla@aol.com wrote: > Hey, this is me! What year was that membership number from, Jeff? > > United *Brethren* Church, Alamo; membership 60 > > Jeff, Thanks for all the responses, you're right on the migrations...I am > already pretty sure the Werts came form New Jersey to Hamilton Co using the Ohio > River. Apparently nearly everybody did, so it's a pretty safe guess. > > Suzy > United Brethren Church, Alamo; membership 60; Rev. John NEWALL, pastor; value of property, $1000. It is claimed by the United Brethren that in the year 1872 they built a house of worship for every day in the year and two over; this would be 367 houses in one year. If all other denominations of different sorts of worship would do as well, we should soon have no scarcity of places where we might worship out Creator under a roof of human mechanism; we might, also, have within our reach houses where various manners, systems and customs are practiced, so that if we should feel disposed, in consequence of mental eruptions or personal insults, we could find a near resort, where our praises, thanks, blessing and cursings could be liberally dispensed, agreeably to our morbid feelings and tempers of mind toward our enemies. Variety satisfies every passion of man. >>> *1874 People's Guide http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/twsp/lo-ripley.htm *

Karen Zach wrote: > Not sure - isn't there a citation - we tried real hard to do that -- might > be from the booklets (I think they were done by VFW) in the library I have the 1966 copy of Montgomery County Soldier and Sailor Dead in front of me, and it was a "personal (annoted) copy of Mr. and Mrs. Estel Cheek." The Committee was Julian G. Carter, Homer Linn, Walter G. Remley, and Russell Powers. Bryan Cox chapter of the American Legion (post #72) and 22 other named Vet groups. Jeff

Karen Zach wrote: > This was back in the old days - published 1958 I think. He sure pegs the > place and the big Amish names, at least. I went through and typed all of > 'em in for 1910 & 1920 but didn't find a Bontrager with a Rachel, however > found two with all girls. She talks about her younger sisters but don't > think she's named them. Nor, her parents - she calls them Father and Mother > Bontrager. Of course, he may have used Bontrager as it had to be one of the > most prominent names there - 57 in 1920 or so. He discusses the kinds of > fish, what fruits are prominent in the time, it's just really neat. Its possible that "Father and Mother" were references to Grandparents. I have Borntragers/Borndragers in the Peffley tree.

Karen Zach wrote: > Seriously? 7 sweets and 7 sours. That'd take some big time > thinking/planning. > I have enough trouble with one meat, one salad, one veggie and one dessert > :) > LOL in Korea it is the LAW that all restaurants must serve seven courses/items in a meal. It is difficault to go "a la Carte" in Korea. Jeff

Karen Zach wrote: > There were a few early German-speaking ones in pockets (Darlington) but > mostly not or at least to my knowledge. United *Brethren* Church, Alamo; membership 60 Church of the *Brethren* (Bethel) Cemetery, north of Ladoga -- Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG ~~~~ "It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." Samuel Adams "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclination, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams

Limequilla@aol.com wrote: > Were there any special churches there? I always meant to ask. It appears a > lot of the early obits I typed had to do with United Brethren Church. Was > there an enclave of UB people? Were they the Brethren which are sometimes > called the Dunkers? > The Brethren that were called Dunkers were those who believed in adult baptism by dunking three times, generally, the term comes from the German "Tunken." (to dunk). > > I had another question on if anybody recalls their ancestors spoke German at > home, even though they were born in the US. I had a report from a cousin > that they did. > > Suzy The Mennonites used German as a home language right up into the 1900s, and I have an 1867 Mennonite Bible published in German. (Guengerich family genealogy in it) Jeff

s.m.mills@comcast.net wrote: > United Brethren weren't Dunkers or German Baptists. UBs later joined up with Methodists. German Baptists, Mennonites, Amish, and other forms of Anabaptists with German/Swiss/Dutch/Belgian heritage were just called "Brethren" as a group or Baptists until the English Baptists came into the same area. Then they were called German Baptists for clarity. > > > > I have noted that, in the absence of a Lutheran, Reformed, or Brethren congregation, that German families coming into an area often joined a UB church. > > > > Sharon > The other group were the "Church of the Brethren" see brethren@rootsweb.com mail list, a fascinating list to be on. Jeff > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Limequilla@aol.com > To: inmontgo@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2009 9:28:07 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [InMontgo] Migration NJ to Colerain Twp Ham.Co Ohio to Montgomery Co > > > Were there any special churches there? I always meant to ask. It appears a > lot of the early obits I typed had to do with United Brethren Church. Was > there an enclave of UB people? Were they the Brethren which are sometimes > called the Dunkers? > > I had another question on if anybody recalls their ancestors spoke German at > home, even though they were born in the US. I had a report from a cousin > that they did. > > Suzy > > Many migrated here because of good land, good education, good water and good > > people :) Take your choice :) > > **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making > headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG ~~~~ "It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." Samuel Adams "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclination, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams

Limequilla@aol.com wrote: > Hi all -- > > Are there any people on here who have a migration pattern of New Jersey to > Colerain Township, Hamilton Co Ohio (Near Cincinnati) to Fountain or Montgomery > Counties? > > OR do you know of any surnames that would be in such a migration? > > Here are some I found on One World Tree, but I wondered if there was some > sort of mass migration, and then I wondered why. And why Montgomery Co. > > Tate > Stout > Wert > Tumey > Compton > Corson > Maybe Titus, Barnes and Wilkinson Hulet/Hewlett/Howlett followed a near route. Jeff

When looking for possible migration routes, you have to look at the TIME the persons migrated and try to put yourselves in their situation. Migrations, carrying all their worldly goods, must by necessity take the path of least resistance, and that often means an indirect route from Point A to Point B. Rivers and streams often were the preferred path, and established roads and trails were also popular. The availability of water and food sources for grazing animals was also an important factor. This usually means that supply points would develop along a oft used route, and these points would become towns, and eventually Cities, in most cases. Rivers were often crossed by a ferry, and the place where a Ferry was established often became a stopping point, for supplies, lay-overs, and consolidating into new groups. A topographical map is useful for seeing which way offered the path of least resistance. Modern conveniences, like satellite images, allow us to take a birds-eye view of the terrain and see with our own eyes the likely route. Knowing the developments in history and the political, social and population factors that lead to immigration helps to determine when and where the pioneers came from, and where they likely stopped along the way. A key thing to note is that modern highways and railroads followed the early trails and the path of least resistance, additionally they often follow a river if it is going their way. River traffic by barge and steamer was common in the mid 1800s, and by the time of the War Between the States, steamboats, and rail travel were common. Canals were developed to unite waterways, and commerce was the reason, a path of least resistance. Look for "wilderness roads" and read about the early pioneers to an area to have references of where they traveled. Some narratives exist which actually document the journey, like Joel Peffley's writings about the family trip from Virginia to Montgomery County in 1835. (on the website), or where some of our residents went when leaving the county, (the millers and several other families were Primitive baptists, going first to Mercer Co. Illinois, then Oregon, diaries exist, http://ibssg.org/miller/) Look at bible records, and see when and where children were born, and where people died or were married. Map it out, and do a time line. Knowing where and when can help focus a further search. Know also that families and especially church groups moved as a whole. They generally know that safety lies in numbers and a cohesive community can establish itself quickly, vs a covey of strangers. People move to places that have familiarity, and pretty much are like where they come from, often named after where they came from - example, The Miller clan moved from Millersburg in Mercer County, Illinois, to Millersburg in Linn County Oregon, near Crawfordsville, Oregon. There are Montgomery Counties in Virginia, Ohio, and Indiana, and probably many more, there ids always a possibility that your ancestors previously lived someplace named the same as the place they settled. A commonality of place names is probably not a coincidence. Iris wagoner wrote: > Several also migrated from KY and on to Iowa. > They seemed to travel in families. > > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG ~~~~ "It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." Samuel Adams "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclination, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams

Crawfordsville Journal Review, Thursday, June 12, 1969, page 11 Creety Rogers Of Wallace Dies; Rites Saturday WALLACE- Mrs. Creety B. Rogers, 72, Wallace, died at 9:30 p.m. Wednesday at the home of a daughter, Mrs. John (Mabel) Duke about seven miles south of Waynetown. She had been ill since May 1. Mrs. Rogers attended school southwest of Veedersburg and spent most of her life in the Wallace and Hillsboro areas. She was born Jan. 11, 1886, south of Veedersburg, a daughter of Sylvester and Kitturah Webb Frazier. She was married Jan. 26, 1905, near Wallace, to Austin Rogers. He died in June of 1957. She was a member of the New Liberty Christian Church. She also attended the Wallace Christian Church. Survivors in addition to the daughter at whose home she died are three other daughters, Mrs. Blanche Fuller of Rt. 6, Crawfordsville, Miss Alice Rogers of Omaha, Neb., and Mrs. Cora Newkirk of Crawfordsville; two sons, Ernest of Rt. 3 Veedersburg, and Paul of New Market; three brothers, Bloomer Frazier of New Richmond, Homer Frazier of Kingman, and Oscar Frazier of Judson; eight grandchildren, 21 great-grandchildren and nieces and nephews. She was preceded in death by five sisters. Funeral services will be conducted at 2 p.m. Saturday at the Servies-Thomas Funeral Home at Waynetown. Rev. G. C. DeNeal, pastor of the Wallace Christian Church, will officiate. Burial will be in Bonebreak Cemetery near Veedersburg. Friends may call at the funeral home after 3 p.m. Friday.

Why not? Jeff Karen Zach wrote: > Sounds great to me -- JEFF??? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Limequilla@aol.com> > To: <inmontgo@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 11:31 AM > Subject: Re: [InMontgo] from Hamilton Co OH to Montgomery Co > > > >> I should also say that I can volunteer to put it together from people on >> the >> mailing list -- and then send the complete thing to Jeff to put up on the >> website. Then miscellaneous people could get add as they wanted. That is, >> if >> Karen and Jeff are interested. >> >> Suzy >> **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making >> headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) >> >> http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ >> >> List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG ~~~~ "It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." Samuel Adams "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclination, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams

Crawfordsville Journal Review, Thursday, June 12, 1969, page 11 Mrs. Zella Potter, County Native, Dies In Illinois Mrs. Zella Potter, Montgomery County native who would have been 71 next Monday, died about midnight Tuesday in Lakeview Hospital at Danville, Ill. She had resided near Rossville, Ill., since her marriage in 1917. Born June 16, 1898, near Elmdale, she was a daughter of Samuel and Sarah Griffin Humphreys. She was married to E. W. “Bud” Potter at Danville, Ill. Mrs. Potter was a graduate of the old Elmdale School and was a member of the United Methodist Church at Alvin, Ill. Surviving are two sons, Samuel and Glen of Alvin; a daughter, Mrs. Howard Seifer of Watseka, Ill.; five brothers, Wilbur Humphreys of Crawfordsville, Asa and Charles Humphreys of Hillsboro, Carl Humphreys of Waveland, and Frank Humphreys of California; a sister, Mrs. Harry A. Fruits of Rt. 4, Crawfordsville; 12 grandchildren, and nieces and nephews. She was preceded in death by her husband, seven brothers and two sisters. Funeral services will be conducted at 2:30 p.m. CDT Saturday at the United Methodist Church at Alvin. Burial will be in Sunset Memorial Park at Danville, Ill. Friends may call at the Lanham Funeral Home at Potomac, Ill., after 2 p.m. Friday.

Crawfordsville Journal Review, Wednesday, May 29, 1985, page 2 John K. Patton BROWNS VALLEY- John Keith Patton, 69, Rt. 7, Crawfordsville, died suddenly Tuesday in the Freedom Baptist Church parking lot. He was employed 37 years by the Montgomery County Farm Bureau and retired as manager of the Montgomery County License Branch in 1979. He was a member and served 30 years as deacon of the Freedom Baptist Church. He was also a member of the Waveland Masonic Lodge and American Legion. He was a World War II veteran and was graduated from Waveland High School in 1933. Mr. Patton was born Dec. 3, 1915, a son of Clyde and Lottie Jones Patton. He was married on June 16, 1949, to Helen Jean Loman. She survives. Also surviving are two daughters, Joan Brenda of Waveland and Sally Kalua of Norfolk, Va.; two grandchildren; six sisters, Katherine Mason, Geneice Bayless and Maxine Campbell, all of Crawfordsville, Mabel Beal and Mayme Shaw of Indianapolis, and Marabeth Burrin of Lafayette. Two brothers are deceased. Services will be 10:30 a.m. Friday in the Machledt & Servies Funeral Home at Waveland, with the Rev. Kent Powell officiating. Interment will be in Freedom Cemetery. Friends may call at the funeral home 4-9 p.m. Thursday.

Crawfordsville Journal Review, Wednesday, May 29, 1985, page 2 Harold Humphreys WAYNETOWN- Harold Humphreys, 74, Rt. 1, died at 1:24 a.m. Wednesday in his home. He retired from farming in 1976. He was a member of the Waynetown Baptist Church and was a member and former past worthy patron of the Waynetown Order of Eastern Star #435. He was graduated from Waynetown High School in 1928. Mr. Humphreys was born near Waynetown on Aug. 15, 1910, a son of Ross and Evie Dell Higbee Humphreys. He was married at Waynetown on Oct. 3, 1931, to Eulala Rasor. She survives. Also surviving are a son and daughter-in-law, Charles and Chere Humphreys of Rt. 1, Waynetown; a sister, Opal Endicott of Crawfordsville; and three grandchildren. Services are 2 p.m. Friday in the Thomas Funeral Home at Waynetown, with the Revs. Lewis Poore and James Hatfield officiating. Interment will be in the Waynetown Masonic Cemetery. Friends may call at the funeral home after 3 p.m. Thursday.

Crawfordsville Journal Review, Monday, March 14, 1994, page 2 Doris Graham April 30, 1918-March 12, 1994 Doris E. Graham, 75, of 2000 Lawndale Court died at 9:55 p.m. Saturday in Culver Union Hospital. She had formerly worked in advertising and the front office of the Journal Review. She was a 1937 Waveland High School graduate and a member of First Baptist Church. She was born April 30, 1918, at Waveland to Lyman and Bertha Hunt Stewart. She was married to Howard L. Davis and the late Carrol Graham. Survivors include a son, Larry L. Davis of Little Rock, Ark.; two stepsons, Richard and Marvin Graham of Waveland; five stepdaughters, Carolyn Hacker, Darlene Ramsay, Judy Finitzer, Joan Collier and Linda Kunold, all of Crawfordsville; nine grandchildren; and two great-grandchildren. Funeral services are scheduled for 10:30 a.m. Wednesday in Hunt & Son Funeral Home with the Rev. James Ranard officiating. Private burial services will be at Waynetown Masonic Cemetery. Friends may call 4-8 p.m. Tuesday at the funeral home.