So now I want to read the novel, and it's $75? Ah, unfulfillable desires! LOL Kathy > From: karen.zach@sbcglobal.net > To: INMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 23:03:22 -0500 > Subject: [InMontgo] Remember the Amish novel I read -- read about on this link :) So not true but sort of based on it :) > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~inlgchs/fisherbook.jpg > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try getting it through your library, Interlibrary Loan. I only found this one because I was helping weed my daughter's library's collection. She HATES to weed and doesn't feel like she's capable enough whereas I LOVE to weed old books so I saw it and thought it sounded good - it was very intersting and quick-read except for the background of Purdue which I already knew. I also would like for him to have gotten more into her life as an Amish person -- more about her parents and why they rejected her and how it happened, but hey, it was still GOOD :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Lynch" <kslynch62@hotmail.com> To: "Montgomery County" <inmontgo@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [InMontgo] Remember the Amish novel I read -- read about on this link :) So not true but sort of based on it :) > > So now I want to read the novel, and it's $75? Ah, unfulfillable desires! > LOL Kathy > >> From: karen.zach@sbcglobal.net >> To: INMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com >> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 23:03:22 -0500 >> Subject: [InMontgo] Remember the Amish novel I read -- read about on this >> link :) So not true but sort of based on it :) >> >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~inlgchs/fisherbook.jpg >> >> http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ >> >> List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh sad - poor Frank -- I'm getting to know that feeling ----- Original Message ----- From: "My Family History" <my_family_history@msn.com> To: <inmontgo@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [InMontgo] 1952 PHOTO of JOHN Henry Todd & 2 of his brothers, Oscar Francis ("FRANK") Todd and NOAH Preston Todd. > Thanks, Karen. Keep in mind, that the "Three 13th'ers" are not exactly the > ones who are seen in the photo. Only TWO in the photo were born on March > 13th of different years. The THIRD 13th'er was NOT in the photo: their > fourth bro., Jacob E. Todd, who was known as Jake. > > However, again I say, when you see THIS photo, remember the one thing that > THESE three brothers in the photo DID have in common: the same exact > parents. Their mother was Mariah Jane Hawkins Todd. However, the mother of > Jacob (Jake,) the bro NOT seen in the photo, was Mary Ann Johnson Todd. > All FOUR bros., John Henry, Frank, Noah, and Jake, were sons of John > Starnes Todd. > > There were a whole bunch of other children from John Starnes Todd and both > wives. > > TRIVIA: (Great) Uncle Frank, in the center of the photo, appears to be > much shorter than the other two. Part of the reason for that was that he > was stooped over. He stood that way and he walked that way. Evidently he > had back problems. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen Zach > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 5:42 PM > To: Jeff@ibssg.org, inmontgo@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [InMontgo] 1952 PHOTO of JOHN Henry Todd & 2 of his brothers, > Oscar Francis ("FRANK") Todd and NOAH Preston Todd. > > What a neat picture Angie of the 3 - 13thers :) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jeff" <scismgenie@roadrunner.com> > To: "My Family History" <my_family_history@msn.com>; > <inmontgo@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 11:04 AM > Subject: Re: [InMontgo] 1952 PHOTO of JOHN Henry Todd & 2 of his brothers, > Oscar Francis ("FRANK") Todd and NOAH Preston Todd. > > >>I am forwarding this with a link to the referenced photo. >> >> >> Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG >> >> >> >> My Family History wrote: >> >> http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/bios/t/img/todd-john-frank-noah.jpg >> >>> Hi. I am Angela ("Angie") Frances Todd, born Tuesday, July 1, 1947 >>> in Saint Joseph's Hospital, Logansport, Cass County, Indiana. The three >>> men in the photo are my relatives. >>> >>> Please forgive the repetition of dates throughout this writing. >>> >>> In this 1952 photo, left to right, Angie's Grampa JOHN Henry Todd >>> (3-13-1884--9-2-1958) and two of his brothers, Oscar Francis ("FRANK" >>> Todd >>> (1-26-1888--9-13-1980 and NOAH Preston Todd (3-13-1886--9-17-1982.) >>> >>> CHECK THESE DATES AGAINST ANY THAT HAVE, MORE THAN ONCE, BEEN >>> RECORDED INCORRECTLY IN BOOKS AND OTHER PLACES. Also previously >>> incorrectly recorded in books is Uncle Frank's middle name. Both he and >>> my father, named after him, were Francis, not Franklin, and both went by >>> the nickname of "Frank." Dad always said that my Great Uncle Frank, who >>> we all just called, "Uncle Frank" was Dad's "favorite uncle." >>> >>> This photo was taken in the driveway on the side of the final home >>> of my grandparents, John Henry Todd >>> (3-13-1884--9-2-1958) and his only wife, Flora Etta Reynolds Todd >>> (8-20-1888--2-10-1960.) On Burlington Avenue, Rural Route 3, Highway >>> 29, Logansport, Cass County, Indiana. >>> >>> Moving along, John, Noah, and another brother, Jacob ("Jake") E. >>> Todd, NOT SHOWN HERE, were all born on March 13th of different years. >>> All had the same father, but two different mothers. Jake was born >>> 3-13-1873. To verify the correctness of Jake's rumored death date, I >>> called the Montgomery County Health Dept. and spoke with "Lindsey," the >>> Vital Records Registrar, on Friday, September 26, 2008. My Great Uncle >>> Jake did, indeed die on June 7, 1970, in the city of Crawfordsville, >>> Montgomery County, Indiana, and is buried in Greenlawn Cemetery. >>> >>> Back to the birthdays. A newspaper article was written about this >>> March 13th coincidence in the Pharos-Tribune newspaper in Logansport, >>> Indiana on Friday Evening, March 13, 1953, entitled, >>> >>> "THREE BROTHERS CELEBRATE >>> FRIDAY, THE 13TH BIRTHDAY." >>> >>> Also, I have Bible records of John Henry's wife, Flora Etta >>> Reynolds Todd, and other birth and death records: certificates, marriage >>> licenses, obituaries, and a short, one-page photo shoot, consisting of >>> five photos, in Flora Todd's personal photo album. On this page, two of >>> the brothers and wives, John Henry & Flora and Noah & Julia ("Julie) are >>> seen together on the front porch at this same house as in this photo you >>> now see, on their March 13, 1951 birthdays with Flora's handwritten >>> caption, "Happy Birthday." The front porch, NOT SEEN IN THIS PHOTO, is >>> on the left side of this photo and around the corner. >>> >>> These pieces of evidence, plus the fact that I knew all people >>> mentioned PERSONALLY, prove how I know the three brothers' (John Henry, >>> Noah, and JAKE) March 13th birthdays are correct. >>> >>> John Henry, Noah, and FRANK are sons of John Starnes Todd and his >>> SECOND wife, Mariah Jane Hawkins Todd. JAKE is a son of John Starnes >>> Todd and his FIRST wife, Mary Ann Johnson Todd. >>> >>> John Starnes Todd and both wives, as well as many of "the old >>> Todds" are all buried in Gilgal Cemetery, Pleasant Run Township, >>> Lawrence County, Indiana. >>> >>> John Henry and Flora and one of their sons, another John Starnes >>> Todd, a tailgunner, shot down over the Netherlands in WWII, and Noah and >>> wife, Julia ("Julie") are all buried in Paint Creek Primitive Baptist >>> Church Cemetery, about four miles east of the little town of Camden, >>> Carroll County, Indiana, a short drive from this Cass county home. >>> >>> ABOUT THIS HOUSE. It was torn down years ago. That is a beautiful >>> fuscia vine in the background. Behind the left end of the vine is the >>> kitchen window. The nesting birds in the beautiful fuscia made such nice >>> pretty chirps while you would be doing dishes on the other side of the >>> window. >>> >>> The building to the right is joined to the main house by a large >>> enclosed porch in the middle. A porch doorway, if visible, would be seen >>> in the background between Uncle Frank and Grampa John. An iron water >>> pump is on the back porch next to the kitchen doorway, not seen. >>> >>> THE CAR, on the right, belonged to my Dad, Francis ("Frank") >>> Leverett Todd and we three kids, Marie Elaine Todd, Angela Frances Todd >>> and Christine ("Chris") Annette Todd, knew it as "our first car" when we >>> were kids. >>> >>> Chris was born on 12-5-1948 and died alone on the ESTIMATED date of >>> Sunday, Saint Patrick's Day, March 17, 1991, in her apartment in >>> Wheelersburg, Scioto County, Ohio. Marie was born on June 13, 1946. All >>> three of us were born in the same hospital in Logansport. >>> >>> QUICK SUMMARY: I am Angela Frances Todd. My parents were Francis >>> ("Frank") Leverett Todd (12-12-1918--10-7-1984) and Evaleen Rosemary >>> Murphy Todd >>> (7-3-1924--3-5-1987.) Frank's parents were John Henry Todd >>> (3-13-1884--9-2-1958)and Flora Etta Reynolds Todd >>> (8-20-1888--2-10-1960.) John Henry's parents were John Starnes Todd >>> (10-18-1843--4-11-1929) and Mariah Jane Hawkins Todd (Born Christmas >>> Day, 1853 and died Jan, 16, 1899). John Starnes' parents were Thomas >>> Todd and Sallie Helton Todd. Thomas' parents were George Todd and Sarah >>> Brooks Todd. George's parents were Andrew Todd and Elizabeth Sipes Todd. >>> These are the spellings that I have of these names. >>> >>> I have more dates, etc., if needed. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >> >> http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ >> >> List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Karen. Keep in mind, that the "Three 13th'ers" are not exactly the ones who are seen in the photo. Only TWO in the photo were born on March 13th of different years. The THIRD 13th'er was NOT in the photo: their fourth bro., Jacob E. Todd, who was known as Jake. However, again I say, when you see THIS photo, remember the one thing that THESE three brothers in the photo DID have in common: the same exact parents. Their mother was Mariah Jane Hawkins Todd. However, the mother of Jacob (Jake,) the bro NOT seen in the photo, was Mary Ann Johnson Todd. All FOUR bros., John Henry, Frank, Noah, and Jake, were sons of John Starnes Todd. There were a whole bunch of other children from John Starnes Todd and both wives. TRIVIA: (Great) Uncle Frank, in the center of the photo, appears to be much shorter than the other two. Part of the reason for that was that he was stooped over. He stood that way and he walked that way. Evidently he had back problems. -----Original Message----- From: Karen Zach Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 5:42 PM To: Jeff@ibssg.org, inmontgo@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [InMontgo] 1952 PHOTO of JOHN Henry Todd & 2 of his brothers, Oscar Francis ("FRANK") Todd and NOAH Preston Todd. What a neat picture Angie of the 3 - 13thers :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "jeff" <scismgenie@roadrunner.com> To: "My Family History" <my_family_history@msn.com>; <inmontgo@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [InMontgo] 1952 PHOTO of JOHN Henry Todd & 2 of his brothers, Oscar Francis ("FRANK") Todd and NOAH Preston Todd. >I am forwarding this with a link to the referenced photo. > > > Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG > > > > My Family History wrote: > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/bios/t/img/todd-john-frank-noah.jpg > >> Hi. I am Angela ("Angie") Frances Todd, born Tuesday, July 1, 1947 >> in Saint Joseph's Hospital, Logansport, Cass County, Indiana. The three >> men in the photo are my relatives. >> >> Please forgive the repetition of dates throughout this writing. >> >> In this 1952 photo, left to right, Angie's Grampa JOHN Henry Todd >> (3-13-1884--9-2-1958) and two of his brothers, Oscar Francis ("FRANK" >> Todd >> (1-26-1888--9-13-1980 and NOAH Preston Todd (3-13-1886--9-17-1982.) >> >> CHECK THESE DATES AGAINST ANY THAT HAVE, MORE THAN ONCE, BEEN >> RECORDED INCORRECTLY IN BOOKS AND OTHER PLACES. Also previously >> incorrectly recorded in books is Uncle Frank's middle name. Both he and >> my father, named after him, were Francis, not Franklin, and both went by >> the nickname of "Frank." Dad always said that my Great Uncle Frank, who >> we all just called, "Uncle Frank" was Dad's "favorite uncle." >> >> This photo was taken in the driveway on the side of the final home >> of my grandparents, John Henry Todd >> (3-13-1884--9-2-1958) and his only wife, Flora Etta Reynolds Todd >> (8-20-1888--2-10-1960.) On Burlington Avenue, Rural Route 3, Highway >> 29, Logansport, Cass County, Indiana. >> >> Moving along, John, Noah, and another brother, Jacob ("Jake") E. >> Todd, NOT SHOWN HERE, were all born on March 13th of different years. >> All had the same father, but two different mothers. Jake was born >> 3-13-1873. To verify the correctness of Jake's rumored death date, I >> called the Montgomery County Health Dept. and spoke with "Lindsey," the >> Vital Records Registrar, on Friday, September 26, 2008. My Great Uncle >> Jake did, indeed die on June 7, 1970, in the city of Crawfordsville, >> Montgomery County, Indiana, and is buried in Greenlawn Cemetery. >> >> Back to the birthdays. A newspaper article was written about this >> March 13th coincidence in the Pharos-Tribune newspaper in Logansport, >> Indiana on Friday Evening, March 13, 1953, entitled, >> >> "THREE BROTHERS CELEBRATE >> FRIDAY, THE 13TH BIRTHDAY." >> >> Also, I have Bible records of John Henry's wife, Flora Etta >> Reynolds Todd, and other birth and death records: certificates, marriage >> licenses, obituaries, and a short, one-page photo shoot, consisting of >> five photos, in Flora Todd's personal photo album. On this page, two of >> the brothers and wives, John Henry & Flora and Noah & Julia ("Julie) are >> seen together on the front porch at this same house as in this photo you >> now see, on their March 13, 1951 birthdays with Flora's handwritten >> caption, "Happy Birthday." The front porch, NOT SEEN IN THIS PHOTO, is >> on the left side of this photo and around the corner. >> >> These pieces of evidence, plus the fact that I knew all people >> mentioned PERSONALLY, prove how I know the three brothers' (John Henry, >> Noah, and JAKE) March 13th birthdays are correct. >> >> John Henry, Noah, and FRANK are sons of John Starnes Todd and his >> SECOND wife, Mariah Jane Hawkins Todd. JAKE is a son of John Starnes >> Todd and his FIRST wife, Mary Ann Johnson Todd. >> >> John Starnes Todd and both wives, as well as many of "the old >> Todds" are all buried in Gilgal Cemetery, Pleasant Run Township, >> Lawrence County, Indiana. >> >> John Henry and Flora and one of their sons, another John Starnes >> Todd, a tailgunner, shot down over the Netherlands in WWII, and Noah and >> wife, Julia ("Julie") are all buried in Paint Creek Primitive Baptist >> Church Cemetery, about four miles east of the little town of Camden, >> Carroll County, Indiana, a short drive from this Cass county home. >> >> ABOUT THIS HOUSE. It was torn down years ago. That is a beautiful >> fuscia vine in the background. Behind the left end of the vine is the >> kitchen window. The nesting birds in the beautiful fuscia made such nice >> pretty chirps while you would be doing dishes on the other side of the >> window. >> >> The building to the right is joined to the main house by a large >> enclosed porch in the middle. A porch doorway, if visible, would be seen >> in the background between Uncle Frank and Grampa John. An iron water >> pump is on the back porch next to the kitchen doorway, not seen. >> >> THE CAR, on the right, belonged to my Dad, Francis ("Frank") >> Leverett Todd and we three kids, Marie Elaine Todd, Angela Frances Todd >> and Christine ("Chris") Annette Todd, knew it as "our first car" when we >> were kids. >> >> Chris was born on 12-5-1948 and died alone on the ESTIMATED date of >> Sunday, Saint Patrick's Day, March 17, 1991, in her apartment in >> Wheelersburg, Scioto County, Ohio. Marie was born on June 13, 1946. All >> three of us were born in the same hospital in Logansport. >> >> QUICK SUMMARY: I am Angela Frances Todd. My parents were Francis >> ("Frank") Leverett Todd (12-12-1918--10-7-1984) and Evaleen Rosemary >> Murphy Todd >> (7-3-1924--3-5-1987.) Frank's parents were John Henry Todd >> (3-13-1884--9-2-1958)and Flora Etta Reynolds Todd >> (8-20-1888--2-10-1960.) John Henry's parents were John Starnes Todd >> (10-18-1843--4-11-1929) and Mariah Jane Hawkins Todd (Born Christmas >> Day, 1853 and died Jan, 16, 1899). John Starnes' parents were Thomas >> Todd and Sallie Helton Todd. Thomas' parents were George Todd and Sarah >> Brooks Todd. George's parents were Andrew Todd and Elizabeth Sipes Todd. >> These are the spellings that I have of these names. >> >> I have more dates, etc., if needed. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Now, that's going to be my story, Jeff -- thank you! > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:25:06 -0800 > From: Jeff@ibssg.org > To: inmontgo@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [InMontgo] Shelley or? as German name > > Kathleen Lynch wrote: > > And thanks for your suggestion, Sharon. I feel that from knowing just my grandparents' names and birthplaces to knowing eight generations to the immigrant ancestor in that line is probably going to be as much as I'm going to find, but it's very satisfying, even without European roots! > > > > Kathy > > > Sometimes we have to leave 'something' for the next generation to find > out.... > > Jeff > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

THANKS JEFF -- they're all now in my growing database :) 214,500 or so now :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Scism" <Jeff@ibssg.org> To: <inmontgo@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [InMontgo] reading and Amish >I have Three, a John born c 1759, 1779, owned 100 acres in Property > Assessment list of Brothersvalley Twp.,Pennslvania > > Then there is this one: > > Descendants of Susannah Borntragar > > 1 Susannah Borntragar b: 1772 in Lancaster, Pa, Usa > d: Aft. 1821 in Va, Usa Burial: Near Salem, Roanoke Co., Va > .. +Henry Peffley, Sr. b: 1770 in Bethel, Lancaster Co., Pa > m: 1797 in Botetourt County, Virginia d: 1842 in Roanoke Co., Va > ...... 2 Solomon Pefley b: 10 Jan 1798 in Botetourt, Va, > Usa d: 09 Jun 1879 in Wabash, In, Usa > .......... +Francis Roof b: Aft. 1798 in Usa m: Bet. 1816 - > 1822 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 1840 in Preble Co., Oh > ...... *2nd Wife of Solomon Pefley: > .......... +Hannah Hoover b: 05 Sep 1797 in Eaton, Preble, Oh, > Usa m: Bet. 1841 - 1849 in Eaton, Preble, Oh, Usa d: 16 Jul 1879 > in Wabash, In, Usa > ...... 2 Jonathan Pefley b: 23 Dec 1801 in Botetourt, Va, > Usa d: Bet. 1850 - 1870 in Johnson, In, Usa Burial: Bet. 1850 > - 1870 Johnson, In, Usa > .......... +Elizabeth Shank b: 15 Feb 1812 in Botetourt, Va, > Usa m: Bet. 1827 - 1828 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 1842 in Johnson, > In, Usa > ...... 2 Elizabeth Pefley b: Bet. 1802 - 1804 in Botetourt, > Va, Usa > .......... +John W. Smith b: Bef. 1802 in Usa m: 23 Feb > 1832 in Botetourt, Va, Usa > ...... 2 Catherine Pefley b: Bet. 1804 - 1807 in Botetourt, > Va, Usa > .......... +Abraham Grubb b: Bef. 1804 in Usa m: 21 Mar > 1831 in Botetourt, Va, Usa > ...... 2 Henry Peffley, Jr. b: 14 Aug 1805 in Bethel Twp., > Lancaster Co., Pa d: 18 Jul 1884 in Dayton, Montgomery, Oh, > Usa Burial: 21 Jul 1884 Bear Creek Cemetery Trotwood, Madison Twp., > Montgomery Co., Oh, Usa > .......... +Sarah Ann Bowser b: 28 Sep 1808 in Dayton, > Montgomery, Oh, Usa m: 08 Feb 1827 in Dayton, Montgomery, Oh, Usa > d: 23 Jul 1849 in Dayton, Montgomery, Oh, Usa Burial: Bear Creek > Cemetery Trotwood, Madison Twp., Montgomery Co., Oh, Usa > ...... 2 Susannah Pefley b: 22 Jun 1808 in Botetourt Co., > Va d: 10 Nov 1884 in Tn Burial: Pleasant Valley Cemetery, > Washington Co., Tn > .......... +Samuel Garst b: 03 Nov 1810 in Va m: Abt. > 1836 d: 28 Oct 1876 in Tn Burial: Pleasant Valley Cemetery, > Washington Co., Tn > ...... 2 Jacob Pefley b: 17 Aug 1810 in Botetourt, Va, Usa > d: 26 Apr 1868 in Antwerp, Paulding, Ohio, Usa Burial: Antwerp, > Paulding, Ohio, Usa > .......... +Mary Myers b: Aft. 1806 in Usa m: 27 Aug 1827 > in Botetourt, Va, Usa > ...... *2nd Wife of Jacob Pefley: > .......... +Sarah Jane Hartman b: 1828 in Botetort County, > Virginia m: 16 Oct 1849 in Putnam, Indiana, Usa d: 01 Dec 1902 in > Wilbur, Lincoln, Wa, Usa > ...... 2 Henry Pefley b: 1811 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: > 1889 in Parsons, Labette, Ks, Usa > .......... +Catherine Caton b: Abt. 1825 in Usa m: Bet. > 1842 - 1844 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: Bef. 1900 in Parsons, Labette, > Ks, Usa Burial: Bef. 1900 Parsons, Labette, Ks, Usa > ...... 2 Salome Pefley b: 15 Apr 1818 in Botetourt, Va, > Usa d: 16 Sep 1899 in Wabash Co., In > ...... 2 Lydia Pefley b: 21 Jun 1820 in Botetourt, Va, Usa > d: 28 Apr 1902 in Dora, Wabash, In, Usa Burial: 01 May 1902 Dora > Cemetery, Wabash, In, Usa > ...... 2 Daniel B. Pefley b: Abt. 1822 in Botetourt Co., > Va d: in Wabash, In, Usa > .......... +Anna Elizabeth Wrightesman b: Aft. 1821 in Usa > m: Aft. 1836 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: in Wabash, In, Usa > > > And this "Anna" could be the same as the Susannah, or a sister... > > Descendants of Anna Borntrager > > 1 Anna Borntrager b: 08 Mar 1783 in Lancaster County, > Pennsylvania d: 05 Aug 1864 in Montgomery, In, Usa Burial: 08 > Aug 1864 J.B.Pefley Cem., Ladoga, Montgomery, In > .. +Samuel Peffley b: 23 Oct 1775 in Bethel Twp., Lancaster > County, Penna. m: 1799 d: 10 May 1860 in Clark Township, > Montgomery, Indiana, USA Burial: John B..Pefley Cem, Clark, > Montgomery, In > ...... 2 Hannah Peffley b: 13 Jul 1800 in Botetourt, Va, > Usa d: Abt. 23 Sep 1862 > .......... +Michael Hawbeck b: Bef. 1800 in Usa m: 04 Aug > 1818 in Botetourt, Va, Usa > ...... 2 Sarah 'Sally' Peffley b: 16 Aug 1802 in Botetourt, > Va, Usa > .......... +Jacob Fisher b: Abt. 1797 in Franklin Co., Va > m: 13 Nov 1821 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: Abt. 1865 in Carroll Co., In > ...... 2 Susannah Peffley b: 22 Sep 1804 in Botetourt, Va, > Usa d: 10 Jan 1874 in Usa > .......... +David Fisher b: 25 Mar 1801 in Usa m: 31 Aug > 1824 in Botetourt, Va, Usa > ...... 2 Anna Peffley b: 02 Dec 1806 in Botetourt Co, Va > d: 10 Jan 1874 in Ladoga, Montgomery, In, Usa Burial: 13 Jan 1874 > John B. Pefley Cem, Clark, Montgomery, In > .......... +John R. Neff, Sr. b: 09 Oct 1795 in Boones Mill, > Franklin Co, Va m: 19 Jan 1826 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 26 Nov > 1871 in Ladoga, Montgomery, In, Usa Burial: 29 Nov 1871 John B. > Pefley Cem, Clark, Montgomery, In > ...... 2 Elizabeth Peffley b: 04 Nov 1808 in Botetourt, Va, > Usa d: 04 Apr 1872 in Ia, Usa > .......... +Joseph Stover b: Bet. 06 Aug - 07 Sep 1811 in > Botetourt, Va, Usa m: 02 Jun 1831 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 06 Jun > 1892 in Labette, Ks, Usa > ...... 2 Samuel Peffley, Jr. b: 10 Nov 1810 in Botetourt, Va, > Usa d: 14 Mar 1893 in Linn Grove, Buena Vista, Ia, Usa Burial: > Jordans Grove Cemetery, Linn County, Iowa, USA > .......... +Hannah Stover b: 07 Feb 1813 in Bedford Springs, > Mi Natural Springs, Virginia, USA m: 15 Dec 1831 in Botetourt, Va, > Usa d: 26 Nov 1889 in Linn Grove, Buena Vista, Ia, Usa > ...... 2 John B. Peffley b: 19 Mar 1813 in Botetourt, Va, > Usa d: 24 Sep 1904 in Nr Ladoga, Montgomery, In, Usa Burial: > 27 Sep 1904 John B..Pefley Cem, Nr. Residence Of William Harshbarger, > Ladoga, Montgomery, In > .......... +Sarah Mangus b: 10 Dec 1816 in Botetourt, Va, > Usa m: 04 Sep 1834 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 07 Oct 1898 in Ladoga, > Montgomery, In, Usa Burial: John B. Peffley Cem, Nr. residence of > William Harshbarger, Ladoga, Montgomery, In > ...... 2 Mary 'Polly' Peffley b: 18 Apr 1816 in Botetourt, > Va, Usa d: 13 Feb 1886 in Warren County, Iowa > .......... +Jacob Hypes b: 02 Feb 1809 in Botetourt County, > VA m: 27 Feb 1834 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 11 Jul 1851 in > Hendricks Co., IN Burial: Ladoga, Montgomery Co., IN > ...... *2nd Husband of Mary 'Polly' Peffley: > .......... +Solomon Hyre b: Abt. 1815 m: 04 Aug 1847 in > Putnam, Indiana, Usa > ...... 2 Hesther 'Hetty' Peffley b: 25 Aug 1818 in Botetourt, > Va, Usa d: 22 Feb 1888 in Ladoga, Montgomery, In, Usa Burial: > 25 Feb 1888 Stoner Cemetery, Ladoga, Montgomery, In > .......... +Lewis Otterman, Jr b: 12 Jan 1812 in Va, Usa m: > 15 Sep 1836 in Montgomery, Indiana, Usa d: 13 Jun 1896 in Montgomery, > In, Usa Burial: 16 Jun 1896 Stoner Cemetery, Ladoga, Montgomery, In > ...... 2 Frances Pefley b: 04 Nov 1820 in Botetourt, Va, > Usa d: 27 Sep 1874 in Ladoga, Montgomery, In, Usa Burial: 30 > Sep 1874 Harshbarger Cem., Ladoga, Montgomery, In > .......... +Daniel Arnold b: 12 Dec 1808 in Nr Fincastle, > Botetourt, Va, Usa m: 13 Aug 1848 in Montgomery, Indiana, Usa d: > Bet. 1900 - 1908 in Montgomery, In, Usa Burial: Bet. 1900 - 1908 > Harshbarger Cem., Ladoga, Montgomery, In > ...... 2 Catherine Pefley b: 18 Feb 1826 in Botetourt, Va, > Usa d: 09 Jul 1830 in Botetourt, Va, Usa > ...... 2 Andrew J. Peffley b: 18 May 1828 in Botetourt, Va, > Usa d: 28 Jul 1860 in Usa Burial: John B. Peffley Cem, Clark, > Montgomery, In > .......... +Elizabeth Kinzie b: 15 Jul 1824 in Botetourt, Va, > Usa m: 10 Aug 1848 in Montgomery, Indiana, USA d: 05 Oct 1896 in > Nr Ladoga, Montgomery, In, Usa Burial: 08 Oct 1896 John B. Peffley > Cem, Clark, Montgomery, In > > > > > Karen Zach wrote: >> Rachel? LaGrange County? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jeff Scism" <Jeff@ibssg.org> >> To: <inmontgo@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 1:45 PM >> Subject: Re: [InMontgo] reading and Amish >> >> >> >>> Karen Zach wrote: >>> >>>> This was back in the old days - published 1958 I think. He sure pegs >>>> the >>>> place and the big Amish names, at least. I went through and typed all >>>> of >>>> 'em in for 1910 & 1920 but didn't find a Bontrager with a Rachel, >>>> however >>>> found two with all girls. She talks about her younger sisters but >>>> don't >>>> think she's named them. Nor, her parents - she calls them Father and >>>> Mother >>>> Bontrager. Of course, he may have used Bontrager as it had to be one >>>> of >>>> the >>>> most prominent names there - 57 in 1920 or so. He discusses the kinds >>>> of >>>> fish, what fruits are prominent in the time, it's just really neat. >>>> >>> Its possible that "Father and Mother" were references to Grandparents. >>> >>> I have Borntragers/Borndragers in the Peffley tree. >>> >>> http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ >>> >>> List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ >> >> List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > -- > > > Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG > > > ~~~~ > > "It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless > minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." > > Samuel Adams > > > "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our > inclination, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state > of facts and evidence." > > John Adams > > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What a neat picture Angie of the 3 - 13thers :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "jeff" <scismgenie@roadrunner.com> To: "My Family History" <my_family_history@msn.com>; <inmontgo@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [InMontgo] 1952 PHOTO of JOHN Henry Todd & 2 of his brothers, Oscar Francis ("FRANK") Todd and NOAH Preston Todd. >I am forwarding this with a link to the referenced photo. > > > Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG > > > > My Family History wrote: > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/bios/t/img/todd-john-frank-noah.jpg > >> Hi. I am Angela ("Angie") Frances Todd, born Tuesday, July 1, 1947 >> in Saint Joseph's Hospital, Logansport, Cass County, Indiana. The three >> men in the photo are my relatives. >> >> Please forgive the repetition of dates throughout this writing. >> >> In this 1952 photo, left to right, Angie's Grampa JOHN Henry Todd >> (3-13-1884--9-2-1958) and two of his brothers, Oscar Francis ("FRANK" >> Todd >> (1-26-1888--9-13-1980 and NOAH Preston Todd (3-13-1886--9-17-1982.) >> >> CHECK THESE DATES AGAINST ANY THAT HAVE, MORE THAN ONCE, BEEN >> RECORDED INCORRECTLY IN BOOKS AND OTHER PLACES. Also previously >> incorrectly recorded in books is Uncle Frank's middle name. Both he and >> my father, named after him, were Francis, not Franklin, and both went by >> the nickname of "Frank." Dad always said that my Great Uncle Frank, who >> we all just called, "Uncle Frank" was Dad's "favorite uncle." >> >> This photo was taken in the driveway on the side of the final home >> of my grandparents, John Henry Todd >> (3-13-1884--9-2-1958) and his only wife, Flora Etta Reynolds Todd >> (8-20-1888--2-10-1960.) On Burlington Avenue, Rural Route 3, Highway >> 29, Logansport, Cass County, Indiana. >> >> Moving along, John, Noah, and another brother, Jacob ("Jake") E. >> Todd, NOT SHOWN HERE, were all born on March 13th of different years. >> All had the same father, but two different mothers. Jake was born >> 3-13-1873. To verify the correctness of Jake's rumored death date, I >> called the Montgomery County Health Dept. and spoke with "Lindsey," the >> Vital Records Registrar, on Friday, September 26, 2008. My Great Uncle >> Jake did, indeed die on June 7, 1970, in the city of Crawfordsville, >> Montgomery County, Indiana, and is buried in Greenlawn Cemetery. >> >> Back to the birthdays. A newspaper article was written about this >> March 13th coincidence in the Pharos-Tribune newspaper in Logansport, >> Indiana on Friday Evening, March 13, 1953, entitled, >> >> "THREE BROTHERS CELEBRATE >> FRIDAY, THE 13TH BIRTHDAY." >> >> Also, I have Bible records of John Henry's wife, Flora Etta >> Reynolds Todd, and other birth and death records: certificates, marriage >> licenses, obituaries, and a short, one-page photo shoot, consisting of >> five photos, in Flora Todd's personal photo album. On this page, two of >> the brothers and wives, John Henry & Flora and Noah & Julia ("Julie) are >> seen together on the front porch at this same house as in this photo you >> now see, on their March 13, 1951 birthdays with Flora's handwritten >> caption, "Happy Birthday." The front porch, NOT SEEN IN THIS PHOTO, is >> on the left side of this photo and around the corner. >> >> These pieces of evidence, plus the fact that I knew all people >> mentioned PERSONALLY, prove how I know the three brothers' (John Henry, >> Noah, and JAKE) March 13th birthdays are correct. >> >> John Henry, Noah, and FRANK are sons of John Starnes Todd and his >> SECOND wife, Mariah Jane Hawkins Todd. JAKE is a son of John Starnes >> Todd and his FIRST wife, Mary Ann Johnson Todd. >> >> John Starnes Todd and both wives, as well as many of "the old >> Todds" are all buried in Gilgal Cemetery, Pleasant Run Township, >> Lawrence County, Indiana. >> >> John Henry and Flora and one of their sons, another John Starnes >> Todd, a tailgunner, shot down over the Netherlands in WWII, and Noah and >> wife, Julia ("Julie") are all buried in Paint Creek Primitive Baptist >> Church Cemetery, about four miles east of the little town of Camden, >> Carroll County, Indiana, a short drive from this Cass county home. >> >> ABOUT THIS HOUSE. It was torn down years ago. That is a beautiful >> fuscia vine in the background. Behind the left end of the vine is the >> kitchen window. The nesting birds in the beautiful fuscia made such nice >> pretty chirps while you would be doing dishes on the other side of the >> window. >> >> The building to the right is joined to the main house by a large >> enclosed porch in the middle. A porch doorway, if visible, would be seen >> in the background between Uncle Frank and Grampa John. An iron water >> pump is on the back porch next to the kitchen doorway, not seen. >> >> THE CAR, on the right, belonged to my Dad, Francis ("Frank") >> Leverett Todd and we three kids, Marie Elaine Todd, Angela Frances Todd >> and Christine ("Chris") Annette Todd, knew it as "our first car" when we >> were kids. >> >> Chris was born on 12-5-1948 and died alone on the ESTIMATED date of >> Sunday, Saint Patrick's Day, March 17, 1991, in her apartment in >> Wheelersburg, Scioto County, Ohio. Marie was born on June 13, 1946. All >> three of us were born in the same hospital in Logansport. >> >> QUICK SUMMARY: I am Angela Frances Todd. My parents were Francis >> ("Frank") Leverett Todd (12-12-1918--10-7-1984) and Evaleen Rosemary >> Murphy Todd >> (7-3-1924--3-5-1987.) Frank's parents were John Henry Todd >> (3-13-1884--9-2-1958)and Flora Etta Reynolds Todd >> (8-20-1888--2-10-1960.) John Henry's parents were John Starnes Todd >> (10-18-1843--4-11-1929) and Mariah Jane Hawkins Todd (Born Christmas >> Day, 1853 and died Jan, 16, 1899). John Starnes' parents were Thomas >> Todd and Sallie Helton Todd. Thomas' parents were George Todd and Sarah >> Brooks Todd. George's parents were Andrew Todd and Elizabeth Sipes Todd. >> These are the spellings that I have of these names. >> >> I have more dates, etc., if needed. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have no idea who any of these people are, and can't find them in the 1900 census. Death of Sarah E. Wert Sarah E. Wert, aged 20 years, died at noon Wednesday at the home of her parents, James and Martha Wert, of east Indiana avenue. The funeral occurred on January 5 at 10 o'clcok, conducted by Rev. T. D. Fyffe. Interment at Oak Hill. The deceased had for some time been afflicted with consumption. ~The Crawfordsville Journal; Friday, Jan 5, 1900; p. 5 col 02. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

Kathleen Lynch wrote: > And thanks for your suggestion, Sharon. I feel that from knowing just my grandparents' names and birthplaces to knowing eight generations to the immigrant ancestor in that line is probably going to be as much as I'm going to find, but it's very satisfying, even without European roots! > > Kathy > Sometimes we have to leave 'something' for the next generation to find out.... Jeff

I have Three, a John born c 1759, 1779, owned 100 acres in Property Assessment list of Brothersvalley Twp.,Pennslvania Then there is this one: Descendants of Susannah Borntragar 1 Susannah Borntragar b: 1772 in Lancaster, Pa, Usa d: Aft. 1821 in Va, Usa Burial: Near Salem, Roanoke Co., Va .. +Henry Peffley, Sr. b: 1770 in Bethel, Lancaster Co., Pa m: 1797 in Botetourt County, Virginia d: 1842 in Roanoke Co., Va ...... 2 Solomon Pefley b: 10 Jan 1798 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 09 Jun 1879 in Wabash, In, Usa .......... +Francis Roof b: Aft. 1798 in Usa m: Bet. 1816 - 1822 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 1840 in Preble Co., Oh ...... *2nd Wife of Solomon Pefley: .......... +Hannah Hoover b: 05 Sep 1797 in Eaton, Preble, Oh, Usa m: Bet. 1841 - 1849 in Eaton, Preble, Oh, Usa d: 16 Jul 1879 in Wabash, In, Usa ...... 2 Jonathan Pefley b: 23 Dec 1801 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: Bet. 1850 - 1870 in Johnson, In, Usa Burial: Bet. 1850 - 1870 Johnson, In, Usa .......... +Elizabeth Shank b: 15 Feb 1812 in Botetourt, Va, Usa m: Bet. 1827 - 1828 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 1842 in Johnson, In, Usa ...... 2 Elizabeth Pefley b: Bet. 1802 - 1804 in Botetourt, Va, Usa .......... +John W. Smith b: Bef. 1802 in Usa m: 23 Feb 1832 in Botetourt, Va, Usa ...... 2 Catherine Pefley b: Bet. 1804 - 1807 in Botetourt, Va, Usa .......... +Abraham Grubb b: Bef. 1804 in Usa m: 21 Mar 1831 in Botetourt, Va, Usa ...... 2 Henry Peffley, Jr. b: 14 Aug 1805 in Bethel Twp., Lancaster Co., Pa d: 18 Jul 1884 in Dayton, Montgomery, Oh, Usa Burial: 21 Jul 1884 Bear Creek Cemetery Trotwood, Madison Twp., Montgomery Co., Oh, Usa .......... +Sarah Ann Bowser b: 28 Sep 1808 in Dayton, Montgomery, Oh, Usa m: 08 Feb 1827 in Dayton, Montgomery, Oh, Usa d: 23 Jul 1849 in Dayton, Montgomery, Oh, Usa Burial: Bear Creek Cemetery Trotwood, Madison Twp., Montgomery Co., Oh, Usa ...... 2 Susannah Pefley b: 22 Jun 1808 in Botetourt Co., Va d: 10 Nov 1884 in Tn Burial: Pleasant Valley Cemetery, Washington Co., Tn .......... +Samuel Garst b: 03 Nov 1810 in Va m: Abt. 1836 d: 28 Oct 1876 in Tn Burial: Pleasant Valley Cemetery, Washington Co., Tn ...... 2 Jacob Pefley b: 17 Aug 1810 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 26 Apr 1868 in Antwerp, Paulding, Ohio, Usa Burial: Antwerp, Paulding, Ohio, Usa .......... +Mary Myers b: Aft. 1806 in Usa m: 27 Aug 1827 in Botetourt, Va, Usa ...... *2nd Wife of Jacob Pefley: .......... +Sarah Jane Hartman b: 1828 in Botetort County, Virginia m: 16 Oct 1849 in Putnam, Indiana, Usa d: 01 Dec 1902 in Wilbur, Lincoln, Wa, Usa ...... 2 Henry Pefley b: 1811 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 1889 in Parsons, Labette, Ks, Usa .......... +Catherine Caton b: Abt. 1825 in Usa m: Bet. 1842 - 1844 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: Bef. 1900 in Parsons, Labette, Ks, Usa Burial: Bef. 1900 Parsons, Labette, Ks, Usa ...... 2 Salome Pefley b: 15 Apr 1818 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 16 Sep 1899 in Wabash Co., In ...... 2 Lydia Pefley b: 21 Jun 1820 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 28 Apr 1902 in Dora, Wabash, In, Usa Burial: 01 May 1902 Dora Cemetery, Wabash, In, Usa ...... 2 Daniel B. Pefley b: Abt. 1822 in Botetourt Co., Va d: in Wabash, In, Usa .......... +Anna Elizabeth Wrightesman b: Aft. 1821 in Usa m: Aft. 1836 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: in Wabash, In, Usa And this "Anna" could be the same as the Susannah, or a sister... Descendants of Anna Borntrager 1 Anna Borntrager b: 08 Mar 1783 in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania d: 05 Aug 1864 in Montgomery, In, Usa Burial: 08 Aug 1864 J.B.Pefley Cem., Ladoga, Montgomery, In .. +Samuel Peffley b: 23 Oct 1775 in Bethel Twp., Lancaster County, Penna. m: 1799 d: 10 May 1860 in Clark Township, Montgomery, Indiana, USA Burial: John B..Pefley Cem, Clark, Montgomery, In ...... 2 Hannah Peffley b: 13 Jul 1800 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: Abt. 23 Sep 1862 .......... +Michael Hawbeck b: Bef. 1800 in Usa m: 04 Aug 1818 in Botetourt, Va, Usa ...... 2 Sarah 'Sally' Peffley b: 16 Aug 1802 in Botetourt, Va, Usa .......... +Jacob Fisher b: Abt. 1797 in Franklin Co., Va m: 13 Nov 1821 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: Abt. 1865 in Carroll Co., In ...... 2 Susannah Peffley b: 22 Sep 1804 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 10 Jan 1874 in Usa .......... +David Fisher b: 25 Mar 1801 in Usa m: 31 Aug 1824 in Botetourt, Va, Usa ...... 2 Anna Peffley b: 02 Dec 1806 in Botetourt Co, Va d: 10 Jan 1874 in Ladoga, Montgomery, In, Usa Burial: 13 Jan 1874 John B. Pefley Cem, Clark, Montgomery, In .......... +John R. Neff, Sr. b: 09 Oct 1795 in Boones Mill, Franklin Co, Va m: 19 Jan 1826 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 26 Nov 1871 in Ladoga, Montgomery, In, Usa Burial: 29 Nov 1871 John B. Pefley Cem, Clark, Montgomery, In ...... 2 Elizabeth Peffley b: 04 Nov 1808 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 04 Apr 1872 in Ia, Usa .......... +Joseph Stover b: Bet. 06 Aug - 07 Sep 1811 in Botetourt, Va, Usa m: 02 Jun 1831 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 06 Jun 1892 in Labette, Ks, Usa ...... 2 Samuel Peffley, Jr. b: 10 Nov 1810 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 14 Mar 1893 in Linn Grove, Buena Vista, Ia, Usa Burial: Jordans Grove Cemetery, Linn County, Iowa, USA .......... +Hannah Stover b: 07 Feb 1813 in Bedford Springs, Mi Natural Springs, Virginia, USA m: 15 Dec 1831 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 26 Nov 1889 in Linn Grove, Buena Vista, Ia, Usa ...... 2 John B. Peffley b: 19 Mar 1813 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 24 Sep 1904 in Nr Ladoga, Montgomery, In, Usa Burial: 27 Sep 1904 John B..Pefley Cem, Nr. Residence Of William Harshbarger, Ladoga, Montgomery, In .......... +Sarah Mangus b: 10 Dec 1816 in Botetourt, Va, Usa m: 04 Sep 1834 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 07 Oct 1898 in Ladoga, Montgomery, In, Usa Burial: John B. Peffley Cem, Nr. residence of William Harshbarger, Ladoga, Montgomery, In ...... 2 Mary 'Polly' Peffley b: 18 Apr 1816 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 13 Feb 1886 in Warren County, Iowa .......... +Jacob Hypes b: 02 Feb 1809 in Botetourt County, VA m: 27 Feb 1834 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 11 Jul 1851 in Hendricks Co., IN Burial: Ladoga, Montgomery Co., IN ...... *2nd Husband of Mary 'Polly' Peffley: .......... +Solomon Hyre b: Abt. 1815 m: 04 Aug 1847 in Putnam, Indiana, Usa ...... 2 Hesther 'Hetty' Peffley b: 25 Aug 1818 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 22 Feb 1888 in Ladoga, Montgomery, In, Usa Burial: 25 Feb 1888 Stoner Cemetery, Ladoga, Montgomery, In .......... +Lewis Otterman, Jr b: 12 Jan 1812 in Va, Usa m: 15 Sep 1836 in Montgomery, Indiana, Usa d: 13 Jun 1896 in Montgomery, In, Usa Burial: 16 Jun 1896 Stoner Cemetery, Ladoga, Montgomery, In ...... 2 Frances Pefley b: 04 Nov 1820 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 27 Sep 1874 in Ladoga, Montgomery, In, Usa Burial: 30 Sep 1874 Harshbarger Cem., Ladoga, Montgomery, In .......... +Daniel Arnold b: 12 Dec 1808 in Nr Fincastle, Botetourt, Va, Usa m: 13 Aug 1848 in Montgomery, Indiana, Usa d: Bet. 1900 - 1908 in Montgomery, In, Usa Burial: Bet. 1900 - 1908 Harshbarger Cem., Ladoga, Montgomery, In ...... 2 Catherine Pefley b: 18 Feb 1826 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 09 Jul 1830 in Botetourt, Va, Usa ...... 2 Andrew J. Peffley b: 18 May 1828 in Botetourt, Va, Usa d: 28 Jul 1860 in Usa Burial: John B. Peffley Cem, Clark, Montgomery, In .......... +Elizabeth Kinzie b: 15 Jul 1824 in Botetourt, Va, Usa m: 10 Aug 1848 in Montgomery, Indiana, USA d: 05 Oct 1896 in Nr Ladoga, Montgomery, In, Usa Burial: 08 Oct 1896 John B. Peffley Cem, Clark, Montgomery, In Karen Zach wrote: > Rachel? LaGrange County? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Scism" <Jeff@ibssg.org> > To: <inmontgo@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 1:45 PM > Subject: Re: [InMontgo] reading and Amish > > > >> Karen Zach wrote: >> >>> This was back in the old days - published 1958 I think. He sure pegs the >>> place and the big Amish names, at least. I went through and typed all of >>> 'em in for 1910 & 1920 but didn't find a Bontrager with a Rachel, however >>> found two with all girls. She talks about her younger sisters but don't >>> think she's named them. Nor, her parents - she calls them Father and >>> Mother >>> Bontrager. Of course, he may have used Bontrager as it had to be one of >>> the >>> most prominent names there - 57 in 1920 or so. He discusses the kinds of >>> fish, what fruits are prominent in the time, it's just really neat. >>> >> Its possible that "Father and Mother" were references to Grandparents. >> >> I have Borntragers/Borndragers in the Peffley tree. >> >> http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ >> >> List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG ~~~~ "It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." Samuel Adams "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclination, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams

-----Original Message----- From: Cathi Clore Frost Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 5:14 AM To: inmontgo@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [InMontgo] I sent a photo in of three Todd brothers with history...twice. It isn't posting for some reason. A. Todd Rootsweb doesn't allow attachments on the mailing lists. That's probably why it's not working. Cathi ----- Original Message ----- From: "My Family History" <my_family_history@msn.com> To: <INMONTGO@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: [InMontgo] I sent a photo in of three Todd brothers with history...twice. It isn't posting for some reason. A. Todd > > > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am forwarding this with a link to the referenced photo. Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG My Family History wrote: http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/bios/t/img/todd-john-frank-noah.jpg > Hi. I am Angela ("Angie") Frances Todd, born Tuesday, July 1, 1947 > in Saint Joseph's Hospital, Logansport, Cass County, Indiana. The three > men in the photo are my relatives. > > Please forgive the repetition of dates throughout this writing. > > In this 1952 photo, left to right, Angie's Grampa JOHN Henry Todd > (3-13-1884--9-2-1958) and two of his brothers, Oscar Francis ("FRANK" Todd > (1-26-1888--9-13-1980 and NOAH Preston Todd (3-13-1886--9-17-1982.) > > CHECK THESE DATES AGAINST ANY THAT HAVE, MORE THAN ONCE, BEEN > RECORDED INCORRECTLY IN BOOKS AND OTHER PLACES. Also previously > incorrectly recorded in books is Uncle Frank's middle name. Both he and > my father, named after him, were Francis, not Franklin, and both went by > the nickname of "Frank." Dad always said that my Great Uncle Frank, who > we all just called, "Uncle Frank" was Dad's "favorite uncle." > > This photo was taken in the driveway on the side of the final home > of my grandparents, John Henry Todd > (3-13-1884--9-2-1958) and his only wife, Flora Etta Reynolds Todd > (8-20-1888--2-10-1960.) On Burlington Avenue, Rural Route 3, Highway > 29, Logansport, Cass County, Indiana. > > Moving along, John, Noah, and another brother, Jacob ("Jake") E. > Todd, NOT SHOWN HERE, were all born on March 13th of different years. > All had the same father, but two different mothers. Jake was born > 3-13-1873. To verify the correctness of Jake's rumored death date, I > called the Montgomery County Health Dept. and spoke with "Lindsey," the > Vital Records Registrar, on Friday, September 26, 2008. My Great Uncle > Jake did, indeed die on June 7, 1970, in the city of Crawfordsville, > Montgomery County, Indiana, and is buried in Greenlawn Cemetery. > > Back to the birthdays. A newspaper article was written about this > March 13th coincidence in the Pharos-Tribune newspaper in Logansport, > Indiana on Friday Evening, March 13, 1953, entitled, > > "THREE BROTHERS CELEBRATE > FRIDAY, THE 13TH BIRTHDAY." > > Also, I have Bible records of John Henry's wife, Flora Etta > Reynolds Todd, and other birth and death records: certificates, marriage > licenses, obituaries, and a short, one-page photo shoot, consisting of > five photos, in Flora Todd's personal photo album. On this page, two of > the brothers and wives, John Henry & Flora and Noah & Julia ("Julie) are > seen together on the front porch at this same house as in this photo you > now see, on their March 13, 1951 birthdays with Flora's handwritten > caption, "Happy Birthday." The front porch, NOT SEEN IN THIS PHOTO, is > on the left side of this photo and around the corner. > > These pieces of evidence, plus the fact that I knew all people > mentioned PERSONALLY, prove how I know the three brothers' (John Henry, > Noah, and JAKE) March 13th birthdays are correct. > > John Henry, Noah, and FRANK are sons of John Starnes Todd and his > SECOND wife, Mariah Jane Hawkins Todd. JAKE is a son of John Starnes > Todd and his FIRST wife, Mary Ann Johnson Todd. > > John Starnes Todd and both wives, as well as many of "the old > Todds" are all buried in Gilgal Cemetery, Pleasant Run Township, > Lawrence County, Indiana. > > John Henry and Flora and one of their sons, another John Starnes > Todd, a tailgunner, shot down over the Netherlands in WWII, and Noah and > wife, Julia ("Julie") are all buried in Paint Creek Primitive Baptist > Church Cemetery, about four miles east of the little town of Camden, > Carroll County, Indiana, a short drive from this Cass county home. > > ABOUT THIS HOUSE. It was torn down years ago. That is a beautiful > fuscia vine in the background. Behind the left end of the vine is the > kitchen window. The nesting birds in the beautiful fuscia made such nice > pretty chirps while you would be doing dishes on the other side of the > window. > > The building to the right is joined to the main house by a large > enclosed porch in the middle. A porch doorway, if visible, would be seen > in the background between Uncle Frank and Grampa John. An iron water > pump is on the back porch next to the kitchen doorway, not seen. > > THE CAR, on the right, belonged to my Dad, Francis ("Frank") > Leverett Todd and we three kids, Marie Elaine Todd, Angela Frances Todd > and Christine ("Chris") Annette Todd, knew it as "our first car" when we > were kids. > > Chris was born on 12-5-1948 and died alone on the ESTIMATED date of > Sunday, Saint Patrick's Day, March 17, 1991, in her apartment in > Wheelersburg, Scioto County, Ohio. Marie was born on June 13, 1946. All > three of us were born in the same hospital in Logansport. > > QUICK SUMMARY: I am Angela Frances Todd. My parents were Francis > ("Frank") Leverett Todd (12-12-1918--10-7-1984) and Evaleen Rosemary > Murphy Todd > (7-3-1924--3-5-1987.) Frank's parents were John Henry Todd > (3-13-1884--9-2-1958)and Flora Etta Reynolds Todd > (8-20-1888--2-10-1960.) John Henry's parents were John Starnes Todd > (10-18-1843--4-11-1929) and Mariah Jane Hawkins Todd (Born Christmas > Day, 1853 and died Jan, 16, 1899). John Starnes' parents were Thomas > Todd and Sallie Helton Todd. Thomas' parents were George Todd and Sarah > Brooks Todd. George's parents were Andrew Todd and Elizabeth Sipes Todd. > These are the spellings that I have of these names. > > I have more dates, etc., if needed. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >

Rootsweb doesn't allow attachments on the mailing lists. That's probably why it's not working. Cathi ----- Original Message ----- From: "My Family History" <my_family_history@msn.com> To: <INMONTGO@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: [InMontgo] I sent a photo in of three Todd brothers with history...twice. It isn't posting for some reason. A. Todd > > > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Yup. We're going with Jennie being her middle name. It doesn't annoy me when people don't use their real names, it just seems like something that needs an explanation so others can follow along if they are researching or reading. Suzy In the 1880 census, she's Cynthia J. Hole; in Indiana Deaths, she's Cynthia J. Stout. That makes a pretty good case for Jane or Jennie as a middle name. Kathy **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215047751x1200957972/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

In the 1880 census, she's Cynthia J. Hole; in Indiana Deaths, she's Cynthia J. Stout. That makes a pretty good case for Jane or Jennie as a middle name. Kathy > From: Limequilla@aol.com > Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 17:07:18 -0500 > To: inmontgo@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [InMontgo] Mrs Valentine Stout anybody know her maiden name? > > I found one more -- from One World Tree on Ancestry, but it's still not a > Jennie! > > Cynthia Hole > Born: Mar 1863 in Township, [county], Ohio, USA > Died: 21 Aug 1916 in Union Township, Montgomery, Indiana, USA > > Marriage: to Valentine Stout 6 Sep 1883 in Crawfordsville, Montgomery, > Indiana, USA > > > > > > Here's the only one I find on Ancestry. Don't know if Jennie is a middle > name or a second wife? > > There are two other Valentine entries, one for Marion Co and one for > Delaware Co, dates 1859 and 1923 respectively to Catherine Frasher and Edith O. > West. > > > > Sharon > > > > Name: Cyntha Hole > Spouse Name: Valentine Stout > Marriage Date: 6 Sep 1883 > Marriage County: Montgomery > Source Title 1: Montgomery County, Indiana > Source Title 2: Index to Marriage Record 1860-1920 Inclusive Volum > Source Title 3: W. P. A. Original Record Located: County Clerk's O > Book: 10 > OS Page: 289 > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Limequilla@aol.com > To: INMONTGO@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2009 4:43:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [InMontgo] Mrs Valentine Stout anybody know her maiden name? > > Mrs Valentine Stout -- anybody know her maiden name? > > Suzy > > > MRS VALENTINE STOUT > DIED TODAY AT NOON > AT HOME OF DAUGHTER > > Death Follows Illness of Three Months — Had Been Active in Church Work for > Many Years > > Mrs. Jennie Stout, wife of Valentine Stout of this city, died just before > the noon hour today at the home of her daughter, Mrs John Servies, west of > the city in the Black Creek neighborhood. Mrs Stout had been ill for three > months following a stroke of paralysis. Her condition had been regarded as > critical for several days and her death was not unexpected. Mrs. Stout was > born in > Ohio fifty-three years ago, but most of her life was spent in the county. > She > is survived by her mother, her husband, one son, Floyd, one daughter, Mrs > Servies, two sisters, and two brothers. She had been a member of the United > > Brethren Church for years and was a true Christian woman, at all times > active in > church work. > Arrangements for the funeral have not been made, but the services will > probably be held Wednesday. John Servies, son -in -law of the deceased, is > on his > way home from the Mexican border, having just received a discharge from > Company C. ~ Crawfordsville Journal; 21 Aug 1916; p1, col 6. > > **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making > headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making > headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, Sharon -- it's on my list! We have a strong undocumented suspicion that my Shelleys are related (in the old country) to the Shelleys of Shelley Island, PA. They definitely came to Pennsylvania separately. The earliest written documentation of the name is a reference to "that old Dunkard Adam Schillig" (an itinerant preacher). Old Adam seem to have been illiterate, though, so there's no knowing how HE said or spelled his name. Many other lines of descent from old Adam spell the name Shelly. The Shelley spelling seems to be an Indiana special -- three brothers who all used that spelling came here from Scott County Virginia: one to Wayne County, one to Union and then Boone County, and one to Hendricks County -- (and a sister to Montgomery County). The Swiss government website suggested Schalli; I have local acquaintances in Maine who are Scho[umlaut]lles. In a bid for Americanization, they say, "shoal." German names to America can be tough! It makes my Eller line look simple, but my Fulwiders can compete with anybody for spelling complications! And thanks for your suggestion, Sharon. I feel that from knowing just my grandparents' names and birthplaces to knowing eight generations to the immigrant ancestor in that line is probably going to be as much as I'm going to find, but it's very satisfying, even without European roots! Kathy > Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 17:18:19 +0000 > From: s.m.mills@comcast.net > To: inmontgo@rootsweb.com > Subject: [InMontgo] Shelley or? as German name > > > > Kathleen, You might consider Schele as the previous spelling for Shelley. > > > > Sharon > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

OH HOW SAD -- he wanted a pie :( ----- Original Message ----- From: <Limequilla@aol.com> To: <INMONTGO@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:57 AM Subject: [InMontgo] Obit John H Wert 1907 > > A SUDDEN SUMMONS > > JOHN WERT OF WAYNETOWN FALLS FROM TREE AND IS KILLED > > HIS NECK WAS BROKEN > > And He Lived Only for a Few Seconds After the Accident — Was a Retired > Farmer > > Waynetown, Ind., June 29 [Saturday] — Friday afternoon at six o'clock at > his > home in the southeast part of town, John H. Wert fell out of a cherry tree > while picking some cherries and broke his neck, dying almost instantly. > Deceased was a carpenter and had finished his day's work, and while > waiting supper > said he would pick some cherries for a pie. Little Herman, the > three-year-old > son of Mr. and Mrs. Chris Pevler saw him fall and ran into the house and > told > his mother. The alarm spread immediately. Uncle Billy Pevler, his next > door > neighbor, got to him first and saw him gasp once faintly. Dr H. M. > Bounnell > reached there in a short time, but life was extinct and his neck was found > to > be broken. Mr Wert with his family moved here from his farm south of > town, a > number of years ago. Besides his wife he leaves one son, Austin, and > three > step children, Ira Niece of Chicago, Mrs Charlie Williams at Urbana, > Ill., and > Mrs David Moore, living near here. He has three brothers and three > sisters > living, Asher, of Crawfordsville, Nathan of Humboldt, Kan., and Joe, at > Wallace; Mrs. Mary Myers of Danville, Ill., Mrs. Emma Thomas of Chicago, > and Mrs. > John Jordan, living here. He was in his sixty-second year, a member of > the M-E > church. He also belonged to the order of Red Men and Odd Fellows. The > burial > services will be in charge of them. The funeral services will be held at > 2 > o'clock Sunday.~The Crawfordsville Journal; Saturday, 29 Jun 1907; p. > 1:07 > > The funeral of John H. Wert took place Sunday. Rev. B.B. Keslar delivered > the sermon. The Red Men and Odd Fellows had charge of the burial service, > more > than a hundred of them marching with the body to the Masonic cemetery. > where > it was placed at rest by Shuler and Birdcell. ~The Crawfordsville > Journal; 6 > Jul 1907; p. 10:02 > > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 > easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215047751x1200957972/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De > cemailfooterNO62) > > http://ingenweb.org/inmontgomery/ > > List Manager - inmontgo-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INMONTGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

inmontgo-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Please crop the trailing posts when replying to the digest, and change the subject to match what you are responding to. > > http://ingenweb/inmontgomery/ is the website we use for this mail list. > > Thank you. > > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:10:39 -0800 (PST) > From: "Lena C." <gostraka@yahoo.com> > Subject: [InMontgo] John K. Patton > To: "Mont. Co." <inmontgo@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <459918.83152.qm@web52308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Crawfordsville Journal Review, Wednesday, May 29, 1985, page 2 > John K. Patton > BROWNS VALLEY- John Keith Patton, 69, Rt. 7, Crawfordsville, died suddenly Tuesday in the Freedom Baptist Church parking lot. > He was employed 37 years by the Montgomery County Farm Bureau and retired as manager of the Montgomery County License Branch in 1979. He was a member and served 30 years as deacon of the Freedom Baptist Church. He was also a member of the Waveland Masonic Lodge and American Legion. He was a World War II veteran and was graduated from Waveland High School in 1933. > Mr. Patton was born Dec. 3, 1915, a son of Clyde and Lottie Jones Patton. He was married on June 16, 1949, to Helen Jean Loman. She survives. > Also surviving are two daughters, Joan Brenda of Waveland and Sally Kalua of Norfolk, Va.; two grandchildren; six sisters, Katherine Mason, Geneice Bayless and Maxine Campbell, all of Crawfordsville, Mabel Beal and Mayme Shaw of Indianapolis, and Marabeth Burrin of Lafayette. > Two brothers are deceased. > Services will be 10:30 a.m. Friday in the Machledt & Servies Funeral Home at Waveland, with the Rev. Kent Powell officiating. Interment will be in Freedom Cemetery. Friends may call at the funeral home 4-9 p.m. Thursday. > > Thanks for this one, my uncle John's obit. FYI , he had been up on a ladder painting when he had a heart attack. I believe his date of marriage is June 16, 1940, not 1949. If anyone is researching Pattons, I have loads of info on them. Marianne