In a message dated 6/14/01 7:47:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jhngwn@bellsouth.net writes: > > I'm trying to find more information on Elizabeth. There is a marriage > record for William Radcliff married Elizabeth S. Radcliff July 5, 1870. > From the 1870 census of Martin Co...online Ratliff Annie 4 IN Halbert 320 Ratliff Richard 54 KY Halbert 320 Ratliff Martha 26 IN Halbert 320 Ratliff Richard 4 IN Halbert 320 Ratliff Jacob 2 IN Halbert 320 Ratliff Margaret 15 IN Halbert 320 Ratliff Will Z? 24 IN Halbert 320 Ratliff John 10 IN Halbert 320 (not sure where the family dividing line is here..I'm guessing) Ratliff James 54 VA Halbert 320 Ratliff Mary J 49 IN Halbert 320 Ratliff George W 19 IN Halbert 320 Ratliff Richard 14 IN Halbert 320 Ratliff Jackson 11 IN Halbert 320 Ratliff Jacob H 22 IN Halbert 323 Ratliff Lavina 24 IN Halbert 323 Ratliff Doil 1 IN Halbert 323 Ratliff William 25 Ireland Halbert 323 Ratliff Elizabeth 21 IN Halbert 323 It appears that there are two Rad(t)cliff families (in addition to William...who being born in Ireland does not appear to be an immediate part of either one..so it's not first cousins marrying). I'd say your Elizabeth is the daughter of either Richard or James. It's not circumstantial that they are living so close to these families. To determine which you might try reading the 1860 census for Martin Co., Halbert Twp. Look for Richard or James to have a daughter Elizabeth aged 10-12. Or find a probate for either of these men. Michele
Hi Michele. Thanks for getting back to me. I did figure from the information in the 1870 online that Elizabeth probably traces back to James or Richard. I didn't think to ask for a look-up in the 1860 census though. I found them in the index I use: 1860 Martin Co. Census Halbert Twnshp. James Ratliffe (Radcliff) pg. 925 Richard Ratliffe (Radcliff) pg. 909 Could someone see if either of these has a daughter Elizabeth abt. 10-12? I have asked someone to check for me on the 1870 census to see exactly where the family break is on page 323. It wasn't clear from the online alphabetical listing. Are William and Elizabeth living with Jacob? Could Jacob be her brother? Thank you. Gwen -----Original Message----- From: JCBrooks@aol.com [mailto:JCBrooks@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 11:43 AM To: INMARTIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [INMARTIN] William and Elizabeth Radcliff Martin Co. In a message dated 6/14/01 7:47:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jhngwn@bellsouth.net writes: > > I'm trying to find more information on Elizabeth. There is a marriage > record for William Radcliff married Elizabeth S. Radcliff July 5, 1870. > >From the 1870 census of Martin Co...online Ratliff Annie 4 IN Halbert 320 Ratliff Richard 54 KY Halbert 320 Ratliff Martha 26 IN Halbert 320 Ratliff Richard 4 IN Halbert 320 Ratliff Jacob 2 IN Halbert 320 Ratliff Margaret 15 IN Halbert 320 Ratliff Will Z? 24 IN Halbert 320 Ratliff John 10 IN Halbert 320 (not sure where the family dividing line is here..I'm guessing) Ratliff James 54 VA Halbert 320 Ratliff Mary J 49 IN Halbert 320 Ratliff George W 19 IN Halbert 320 Ratliff Richard 14 IN Halbert 320 Ratliff Jackson 11 IN Halbert 320 Ratliff Jacob H 22 IN Halbert 323 Ratliff Lavina 24 IN Halbert 323 Ratliff Doil 1 IN Halbert 323 Ratliff William 25 Ireland Halbert 323 Ratliff Elizabeth 21 IN Halbert 323 It appears that there are two Rad(t)cliff families (in addition to William...who being born in Ireland does not appear to be an immediate part of either one..so it's not first cousins marrying). I'd say your Elizabeth is the daughter of either Richard or James. It's not circumstantial that they are living so close to these families. To determine which you might try reading the 1860 census for Martin Co., Halbert Twp. Look for Richard or James to have a daughter Elizabeth aged 10-12. Or find a probate for either of these men. Michele ==== INMARTIN Mailing List ==== Martin County, Indiana GenWeb Homepage: http://www.rootsweb.com/~inmartin/index.htm ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp