And to help list: City Market and all the old vendors. The cheeses and teas. Libby's and the ladies I bought fresh chickens and eggs from. The circle on Christmas Eve and how quiet it was. You could hear the snow falling. Walking thru Crown Hill and looking at trees and feeding squirrels that were bold as brass. Old real Lake Sullivan and sledding and skating on a big frozen pond. Hot chocolate at a big bon fire. The old fish hatchery at Lake Sullivan and the large amounts of green happy frogs. Having a big day downtown hitting Wassons, Blocks and Ayres. Sorry I like the tea room at Blocks the best. Chicken salad and that warm pecan roll. The men sitting on THEIR side having martinis in coffee cups and a bowl of Blocks famous bean soup. The models walking thru as you ate showing the stores wares. Driving down old Maple Lane which became 38th street in front of the cemetery. All the double rows of old "hard rock maples" that turned bright yellow in the fall. Driving at night thru the maples with the old street lights glowing. Some of my memories. Before the 70's and so much change and waste. DJ

Thanks for posting this. It's the Indianapolis I remember. Marian ----- Original Message ----- From: <tdeford45@comcast.net> To: <INMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 6:27 PM Subject: [MARION COUNTY, IN] Old Views of Indianapolis > This is really neat, but it took forever to load even on Comcast.It has > lots of old building etc.I know some of you live far away, and thought you > might like this one. > http://www.athsalumni.org/Oldviewsofindianapolis.htm > Here is what it has. > An Eclectic Mixture of Eras and Scenes For Your Pleasure! > "Meet you under the clock!" > L. S. Ayres Tea Room > May 1941 at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway > Fall Creek Parkway > Central State Hospital > World War Memorial Plaza > 1961 Indianapolis Star > Christ Church on the Circle > Butler Fieldhouse > The Last Streetcar in Indy - 1953 > Indiana Roof > The Pagoda at the 500 Mile Track in 1937 > Indianapolis Main Post Office > The Indianapolis Indians Stadium > Bobby Unser, 1968 > Cadle Tabernacle > Coliseum Building at the Indiana State Fairgrounds > Original pennant for the Colts > Steak & Shake on Lafayette Road in 1958 > Old Marion County Court House > Riverside Park > The Trolley Barns > Union Station > Weir Cook Airport, 1953 > Now Indianapolis International Airport > Early view of the Athenaeum > The Claypool Hotel > Very early Speedway photo > Brookside Park Community Center > Scottish Rite > East gate to Crown Hill Cemetery > First Presbyterian Church > Roberts Park Methodist Church > The Naval Armory > James Whitcomb Riley Home > Sunken Gardens at Garfield Park > Early view of Circle > The English Hotel and Theater > Indiana State Capitol > Washington at Meridian > Large building in the foreground is the H. P. Wasson Company department > store > Indiana World War Memorial > Union Station > Early Indy 500 view showing Pagoda > Pictore of today > > > > -- > Teddy > List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky > List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, > Fulkerson,and Commonwealth > http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html > > > ==== INMARION Mailing List ==== > Check out the Marion County InGenWeb site at <a > href="http://www.rootsweb.com/~inmarion/index.html"> Marion County, > Indiana GenWeb</a> >

This is really neat, but it took forever to load even on Comcast.It has lots of old building etc.I know some of you live far away, and thought you might like this one. http://www.athsalumni.org/Oldviewsofindianapolis.htm Here is what it has. An Eclectic Mixture of Eras and Scenes For Your Pleasure! "Meet you under the clock!" L. S. Ayres Tea Room May 1941 at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Fall Creek Parkway Central State Hospital World War Memorial Plaza 1961 Indianapolis Star Christ Church on the Circle Butler Fieldhouse The Last Streetcar in Indy - 1953 Indiana Roof The Pagoda at the 500 Mile Track in 1937 Indianapolis Main Post Office The Indianapolis Indians Stadium Bobby Unser, 1968 Cadle Tabernacle Coliseum Building at the Indiana State Fairgrounds Original pennant for the Colts Steak & Shake on Lafayette Road in 1958 Old Marion County Court House Riverside Park The Trolley Barns Union Station Weir Cook Airport, 1953 Now Indianapolis International Airport Early view of the Athenaeum The Claypool Hotel Very early Speedway photo Brookside Park Community Center Scottish Rite East gate to Crown Hill Cemetery First Presbyterian Church Roberts Park Methodist Church The Naval Armory James Whitcomb Riley Home Sunken Gardens at Garfield Park Early view of Circle The English Hotel and Theater Indiana State Capitol Washington at Meridian Large building in the foreground is the H. P. Wasson Company department store Indiana World War Memorial Union Station Early Indy 500 view showing Pagoda Pictore of today -- Teddy List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, Fulkerson,and Commonwealth http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html

Teddy; Thanks for posting! Brought back lots of old memories. Don Coatney ----- Original Message ----- From: <tdeford45@comcast.net> To: <INMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 5:27 PM Subject: [MARION COUNTY, IN] Old Views of Indianapolis > This is really neat, but it took forever to load even on Comcast.It has lots of old building etc.I know some of you live far away, and thought you might like this one. > http://www.athsalumni.org/Oldviewsofindianapolis.htm > Here is what it has. > An Eclectic Mixture of Eras and Scenes For Your Pleasure! > "Meet you under the clock!" > L. S. Ayres Tea Room > May 1941 at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway > Fall Creek Parkway > Central State Hospital > World War Memorial Plaza > 1961 Indianapolis Star > Christ Church on the Circle > Butler Fieldhouse > The Last Streetcar in Indy - 1953 > Indiana Roof > The Pagoda at the 500 Mile Track in 1937 > Indianapolis Main Post Office > The Indianapolis Indians Stadium > Bobby Unser, 1968 > Cadle Tabernacle > Coliseum Building at the Indiana State Fairgrounds > Original pennant for the Colts > Steak & Shake on Lafayette Road in 1958 > Old Marion County Court House > Riverside Park > The Trolley Barns > Union Station > Weir Cook Airport, 1953 > Now Indianapolis International Airport > Early view of the Athenaeum > The Claypool Hotel > Very early Speedway photo > Brookside Park Community Center > Scottish Rite > East gate to Crown Hill Cemetery > First Presbyterian Church > Roberts Park Methodist Church > The Naval Armory > James Whitcomb Riley Home > Sunken Gardens at Garfield Park > Early view of Circle > The English Hotel and Theater > Indiana State Capitol > Washington at Meridian > Large building in the foreground is the H. P. Wasson Company department store > Indiana World War Memorial > Union Station > Early Indy 500 view showing Pagoda > Pictore of today > > > > -- > Teddy > List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky > List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, > Fulkerson,and Commonwealth > http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html > > > ==== INMARION Mailing List ==== > Check out the Marion County InGenWeb site at <a href="http://www.rootsweb.com/~inmarion/index.html"> Marion County, Indiana GenWeb</a> > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/228 - Release Date: 1/12/06 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/228 - Release Date: 1/12/06

I am seeking information about my great grandfather, John G. Koeppen, b. Sep 1855 in Germany, d. June 1911 in Indianapolis. His first wife was Susan A. Rogers, b. 1856 in Indiana, d. 1934 in Indianapolis. They divorced sometime between 1890 and 1900. He then married 10 May 1900 Johanna E. Weil Wulff, b. 1858 in Germany, d. poss. before 1910. They lived at 1202 and/or1204 Nordyke Ave. in Indianapolis. (One of those addresses was for a saloon that was originally owned by Conrad C. Wulff) Johanna E. Weil married Conrad C. Wulff on 23 Jan. 1886 in Indianapolis, he was b. abt. 1841 in Germany, and d. 1895 in Indianapolis. This was his second marriage, he had been married to Louisa Burkharst Harbrodt from 1879 until her death in 1881. This is a very complicated puzzle. If there is anyone who has information on any of the individuals mentioned above, possible descendants, or about the property on Nordyke Ave., I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you! Catherine

I am trying to contact descendants of James Jefferis B 15 December 1832 D 1922 in Indianapolis, IN. My records indicate he was survived by a son Joseph and daughter Elizabeth. If information is not available about James, data about his peers would be desirable: Thomas Shipley, Joseph Moore, Elizabeth Moore, and Sarah Matilda. Paul Dickinson Millersville, MD 21108

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Hi Joel: Very interesting!! I found the following on the Indianapolis Underground Station at 414 West Vermont. This would have been within about a mile of where our ancestors lived. Look at maps.google.com or Google Earth: Bethel AME Church - Indianapolis' first African Methodist Episcopal (AME) Church has played an important role in the city's African-American community for more than 160 years. It originated as a small congregation which held services in a log cabin, then known as the Underground Railroad's "Indianapolis Station." Church members actively promoted the abolitionist movement, often harboring fugitive slaves en route to Canada. These activities were not always well received by some members of the community and it is believed that slavery supporters caused the fire that destroyed the first church building in 1862. Over the next five years, a determined congregation raised the money needed to rebuild the church in 1867. Today, the church continues to stand on downtown Indianapolis' West Vermont Street. Bethel AME Church, known as the "mother church" of the African Methodist faith in Indiana, played an important role in the community after the Civil War. It opened schools for African-Americans throughout the city and established the Indianapolis chapter of the NAACP and the Indiana State Federation of Colored Woman's Clubs. Visitors are welcome to attend services and tour the building. Call 317-634-7002 for more information. Nancy Lee White County Coordinator for Marion and Ohio Counties INGenExchange and County Coordinator for Hardin and Union Counties OHGenExchange http://www.genexchange.org/county.php?state=in&county=marion http://www.genexchange.org/county.php?state=in&county=ohio http://www.genexchange.org/county.php?state=oh&county=hardin http://www.genexchange.org/county.php?state=oh&county=union Volunteers have a warm fuzzy feeling! Keep genealogy free-volunteer today! -----Original Message----- From: Joel S. Russell [mailto:jsruss@mindspring.com] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 11:52 AM To: INMARION-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MARION COUNTY, IN] Underground Railroad I'm looking for information regarding the Underground Railroad in Indianapolis. My grandmother who lived from 1900-1996 told me that there was a secret room under their house on Merrill Street and that she was told it had been used as part of the Underground Railroad. I'm not sure when the house was built, I only know that her family was living there by 1870 (and possibly as early as the 1850s). Unfortunately the house no longer stands as it was purchased by Eli Lilly in the 1950s and was demolished. Joel www.rafert.org ==== INMARION Mailing List ==== Post a <a href="http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/In/Marion">Query of your Marion County, Indiana Ancestor</a>

There is nothing mentioned about the Underground railroad. As a young girl, my father belonged to the Historical Society in Indpls. I would work as a docent at house showings. We were trying to save a three story home with the only octagonal BLACK WALNUT staircase. It was all black walnut and so were the panels. It had a widows walk and in the basement a false wall that opened and could hold 50 slaves. It was used often. The house was torn down for a Shell filing station which failed within 1 year and was boarded up. Ah progress. Here is an article I found in the directory. "A negro was arrested here in December under the fugitive slave law. The arrest caused much excitement, and being favored by the crowd, he escaped, but was recaptured after a long chase in the North part of the city, and remanded to his master in Kentucky, being convoyed thither by a large squad of heavily armed deputy marshals." 1868 City Directory

Thanks much. By the way, Leroy Jr. is Leroy and Myra's son. ----- Original Message ----- From: <schwel@insightbb.com> To: <INMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 11:45 AM Subject: [MARION COUNTY, IN] Carey marriage request > See Marriage Records (1925 - Present) (No charge) > Lists bride, groom, marriage official and date. Records available from > 1925 - > present > > I believe the index covers only Marion County, IN. This is new and a great > service at CivicNet. http://www.civicnet.net/apps/civil/marriage/ > > Example search result: > Marriage Record Number 34008 > > Groom LEROY CAREY JR > Bride MARGUERITE SMITH > Marriage Date 12/28/1934 > Page Number 455 > Ref. Book Number 142 > > > ==== INMARION Mailing List ==== > Check out the Marion County InGenWeb site at <a > href="http://www.rootsweb.com/~inmarion/index.html"> Marion County, > Indiana GenWeb</a> >

See Marriage Records (1925 - Present) (No charge) Lists bride, groom, marriage official and date. Records available from 1925 - present I believe the index covers only Marion County, IN. This is new and a great service at CivicNet. http://www.civicnet.net/apps/civil/marriage/ Example search result: Marriage Record Number 34008 Groom LEROY CAREY JR Bride MARGUERITE SMITH Marriage Date 12/28/1934 Page Number 455 Ref. Book Number 142

Nancy, Thanks much for the lookup; it was very kind of you to look them up. Leroy Jr is Leroy's son. I don't know who Mary is, but Myra married Bob Morgan. Leroy's wife's given name was Amelia, but I don't know when either marriage was. Thanks again, Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy White" <nlwhite@direcway.com> To: <INMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:34 AM Subject: RE: [MARION COUNTY, IN] Marriage of Leroy Carey Jr > Hi Mark: > > Could you possibly be a year off [actually 3 days]? Here is a marriage > for > Leroy Carey Jr in 1934: > > Marriage Record Number 34008 > > Groom LEROY CAREY JR > Bride MARGUERITE SMITH > Marriage Date 12/28/1934 > Page Number 455 > Ref. Book Number 142 > > There is a Mary Carey - could the letters in Myra have been transposed? > > Marriage Record Number 72126 > > Groom GENE COLLIER > Bride MARY CAREY > Marriage Date 04/11/1942 > Page Number 75 > Ref. Book Number 160 > > These records were found at the following URL: > > http://www.civicnet.net/apps/civil/marriage/ > > I hope this is of some help to you. > > Nan > > Nancy Lee White > > County Coordinator for Marion and Ohio Counties INGenExchange and > > County Coordinator for Hardin and Union Counties OHGenExchange > > http://www.genexchange.org/county.php?state=in&county=marion > > http://www.genexchange.org/county.php?state=in&county=ohio > > http://www.genexchange.org/county.php?state=oh&county=hardin > > http://www.genexchange.org/county.php?state=oh&county=union > > Volunteers have a warm fuzzy feeling! > > Keep genealogy free-volunteer today! > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: M and J Carey [mailto:careymj@charter.net] > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 5:35 PM > To: INMARION-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MARION COUNTY, IN] Marriages between 1935 and 1942 > > My grandparents Leroy and Myra Carey both married a second time between > 1935 > and 1942, and I have not been able to find the marriages. > > I stopped at the City-County building last year when I was in Indianapolis > and checked the marriage index in the archives in the basement of the > building, but I didn't find the marriages. > > Can anyone suggest somewhere else to check? Would people during that > period > have sometimes gone to another county? If so, which one? > > Mark Carey > > > ==== INMARION Mailing List ==== > Post SURNAMES of your Marion County, Indiana Families. Also post a <a > href="http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=postmessage&r=rw&p=localities.no > rtham.usa.states.indiana.counties.marion&onok=http%3A%2F%2Fboards.ancestry.c > om%2Fmbexec%3Fhtx%3Dboard%26r%3Drw%26p%3Dlocalities.northam.usa.states.india > na.counties.marion&oncancel="> Query, or other information of your Marion > County, Indiana Ancestor</a> > > > ==== INMARION Mailing List ==== > Post SURNAMES of your Marion County, Indiana Families to this mail list. > Also post a <a > href="http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=postmessage&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.indiana.counties.marion&onok=http%3A%2F%2Fboards.ancestry.com%2Fmbexec%3Fhtx%3Dboard%26r%3Drw%26p%3Dlocalities.northam.usa.states.indiana.counties.marion&oncancel="> > Query, or other information of your Marion County, Indiana Ancestor</a> >

I'm looking for information regarding the Underground Railroad in Indianapolis. My grandmother who lived from 1900-1996 told me that there was a secret room under their house on Merrill Street and that she was told it had been used as part of the Underground Railroad. I'm not sure when the house was built, I only know that her family was living there by 1870 (and possibly as early as the 1850s). Unfortunately the house no longer stands as it was purchased by Eli Lilly in the 1950s and was demolished. Joel www.rafert.org

Hi Mark: Could you possibly be a year off [actually 3 days]? Here is a marriage for Leroy Carey Jr in 1934: Marriage Record Number 34008 Groom LEROY CAREY JR Bride MARGUERITE SMITH Marriage Date 12/28/1934 Page Number 455 Ref. Book Number 142 There is a Mary Carey - could the letters in Myra have been transposed? Marriage Record Number 72126 Groom GENE COLLIER Bride MARY CAREY Marriage Date 04/11/1942 Page Number 75 Ref. Book Number 160 These records were found at the following URL: http://www.civicnet.net/apps/civil/marriage/ I hope this is of some help to you. Nan Nancy Lee White County Coordinator for Marion and Ohio Counties INGenExchange and County Coordinator for Hardin and Union Counties OHGenExchange http://www.genexchange.org/county.php?state=in&county=marion http://www.genexchange.org/county.php?state=in&county=ohio http://www.genexchange.org/county.php?state=oh&county=hardin http://www.genexchange.org/county.php?state=oh&county=union Volunteers have a warm fuzzy feeling! Keep genealogy free-volunteer today! -----Original Message----- From: M and J Carey [mailto:careymj@charter.net] Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 5:35 PM To: INMARION-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MARION COUNTY, IN] Marriages between 1935 and 1942 My grandparents Leroy and Myra Carey both married a second time between 1935 and 1942, and I have not been able to find the marriages. I stopped at the City-County building last year when I was in Indianapolis and checked the marriage index in the archives in the basement of the building, but I didn't find the marriages. Can anyone suggest somewhere else to check? Would people during that period have sometimes gone to another county? If so, which one? Mark Carey ==== INMARION Mailing List ==== Post SURNAMES of your Marion County, Indiana Families. Also post a <a href="http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=postmessage&r=rw&p=localities.no rtham.usa.states.indiana.counties.marion&onok=http%3A%2F%2Fboards.ancestry.c om%2Fmbexec%3Fhtx%3Dboard%26r%3Drw%26p%3Dlocalities.northam.usa.states.india na.counties.marion&oncancel="> Query, or other information of your Marion County, Indiana Ancestor</a>

Mark: They could have gone to most any county. My grandparents went to Morgan County and my parents went to Madison County. All lived in Marion County. Jan in FL.

Mark, my parents lived in Indianapolis and went to Shelby County to get married in 1946. Maybe it was a smaller place and easier to get around in. I asked my father why they went to Shelby County and he said they were just out for a drive and looking for something to do. If my father is a typical Hoosier all I can say is that Indiana must be the "Tall Tales" capitol of the world. He keeps us laughing. Joyce Shannon Zandri

My grandparents Leroy and Myra Carey both married a second time between 1935 and 1942, and I have not been able to find the marriages. I stopped at the City-County building last year when I was in Indianapolis and checked the marriage index in the archives in the basement of the building, but I didn't find the marriages. Can anyone suggest somewhere else to check? Would people during that period have sometimes gone to another county? If so, which one? Mark Carey

Thank you, the information on the location of Meek St. will help me. Joy

If I may help Meek, east and west from Noble to corporation east, two blocks south of Washington :)

Thank you DJ for the information on the Williams. I think that William G. Williams is my ancestor. I'll get a map to see if I can find that street. Joy