If anyone is looking for a great historical fiction writer, I have to recommend the novels of Nigel Tranter. He has spent 30 years writing these novels, and I just discovered them. Currently, I'm reading his Bruce Tilogy: (The heroic story of Robert the Bruce and his passionate struggle for Scotland's freedom). The books are divided as "The Steps to the Empty Throne", "The Path of the Hero King" and "The Price of the King's Peace." I just finished his "Druid Sacrifice" (which isn't as dreadful as it sounds and is a wonderful book about Mungo, the Patron Saint of Galloway. Other titles include "Black Douglas", "Children of the Mist", "Columba", "Crusader", David the Prince" Flowers of Chivalry", "Highness in Hiding", "The House of Stewart Trilogy", "The James V Tilogy" "The MacGregor Tilogy", "Mail Royal", "Margaret the Queen", "The Patriot", "Price of a Princess", "A Stale in the Kingdom", "Tapestry of the Boar", "True Thomas", "Unicorn Rampant", "The Wallace", "The Wisest Fool", "Lord of the Isles" (and others). If you want some great background material on Scottish/English writers--this is the author to read! Barbara === Barbara Inman Beall, Ph.D. Professional Writer, Editor, Researcher Lancaster-Wormiston Press E-Mail: BIBeall@email.msn.com, BBeall43@yahoo.com Voice Mail: (303)556-5477 Snail Mail: P.O. Box 173, Broomfield, CO 80038-0173 Website: http://twigs-of-inman-spence.rootsweb.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

I ran across another nickname: Tucker. No one in the family was named Tucker. It's just that when this particular individual was a small child, his uncle used to jiggle him on his knee and sing "Old Dan Tucker". Hence, the nickname "Tucker" Barbara --- MBergs5102@aol.com wrote: > I've always understood that when there are two names > within the immediate > family it was Sr. and Jr. to denote the elder from > the younger. I have > personally never seen it Sr. and Jr. with > grandparent and grandchild but I > don't pretend to know anywhere near everything there > is to know. Basically > it would probably have been used as a differentiater > in age I think as I > said. You have made many good points about > nicknames, etc., Barb. My father > was always nicknamed Bob when in reality his name > was Charles Raymond. His > ggrandfather was Robert SPENCE of CANADA and before > that I believe, Scotland. > My cousin who started out this search with me then > branched off on her own > had seen that on the 1903-4 census for Duluth, > Minnesota that he was listed > as Robert and she thought that because he had been a > felon with a long record > that he had changed his name. Not true, just a term > of endearment that my > grandparents used as a nickname for him. WHoever > gave the answers to the > census takers questions called him Robert and that > was what they wrote. > Mary Flora-COx rt SPENCE's from CANADA and N. DAKOTA > and various other places > in the world:) > === Barbara Inman Beall, Ph.D. Professional Writer, Editor, Researcher Lancaster-Wormiston Press E-Mail: BIBeall@email.msn.com, BBeall43@yahoo.com Voice Mail: (303)556-5477 Snail Mail: P.O. Box 173, Broomfield, CO 80038-0173 Website: http://twigs-of-inman-spence.rootsweb.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

Here is a summary of my research on the line of Hezekiah INMAN: Generation 1: Hezekiah INMAN I (b. @1730 - location unknown) married Jane [Maiden name believed to be HYATT]. In 1761, Hezekiah & Jane sold 398 ac. in Abemarle VA. They moved to Rowan Co. NC (later Burke Co. NC) after 1763 and settled on the Linville River near Abednego INMAN (Per Jo White Linn, Rowan County, North Carolina Tax Lists 1757-1800: prior to the Revolution, these lands fell within the Granville Proprietary, and the land office "snapped shut" in 1763 and never reopened). Hezekiah gained title to the land in 1778. It is believed that Hezekiah died before 1788, when his son Henry entered into a land transaction through a guardian, Waighstill AVERY (an attorney, it is not know whether he is related). On May 3/1794, "Henry INMON and Hezekiah [II]INMON,heirs of Hezikiah INMAN, deceased" [sic]transferred their rights in property in Burke Co. NC. It is unknown whether Hezekiah had children other than Henry and Hezekiah II. Other names that I have seen listed as children of Hezekiah are Samuel INMAN and Hyatt INMAN. Death dates and burial places are not known for Hezekiah and Jane. Generation 2: Henry INMAN is believed to have been born after 1770 (assuming that he was a minor in 1788 when he entered into the land transaction through a guardian). He continued to live in Burke Co. NC through the 1820s. Hezekiah II was born about 1770 in Rowan/Burke Co. NC. He is found on the Tax Roll for Burke Co. NC 1793-1799, and served on a jury in Burke Co. in 1799. The name of his first wife is Christiana [MNU]; they had 5 children: (1) Anthony INMAN (b. 1796 Burke Co. NC); (2) Abraham INMAN (b. 1805 TN) others unknown, one died before 1814 when Christiana sued for divorce on the grounds of desertion and adultery in Williamson County TN. The divorce papers state that Hezekiah deserted Christiana and the children 7 years prior and was living in adultery with Nancy DEVINE, by whom he had fathered children. Children by this union are unknown. Hezekiah II married a 2nd time to Eliza BRANCH (b. 1803 TN per census data) on 8/5/1824 in Williamson County TN. They had 2 known children: (1) Elizabeth INMAN (b. 1824 TN) and (2) Joseph M. INMAN (b. 1829 TN). It appears from census data that Hezekiah II and Elizabeth had other children but no names are known at this time. In 1826, Hezekiah II purchased land in Wayne County, TN on Beech Creek. He is found on the 1830 Census for Wayne County. He sold his land on Beech Creek 12/11/1837, the deed records indicate that he is a citizen of Marshall County, MS. He is found on the 1840 Census for Marshall Co. MS. Hezekiah II died in 1847 in Marshall Co. MS. His estate was probated in Marshall Co. and his wife Eliza was appointed as administrator. Attempts to obtain further probate documents with lists of heirs has not been successful. Generation 3: Anthony INMAN (b. 1796 Burke NC, Hezekiah II/Christiana) was the son of Hezekiah II. He is found on the tax roll of Lincoln County, TN in 1829-31 where he is listed as a share cropper. He is also on the 1830 Census for Lincoln County. The name of his first wife is unknown. The known children of Anthony and his first wife are: (1) Martha INMAN (b. 1825 TN), (2) Hezekiah Joseph "Joe" (b. 8/22/1829 TN) and (3) Francis Marion INMAN (b. 1832 TN). Another child, William INMAN (b. 1837 AR) may have had the same mother as Martha, Joe and F.M. Anthony is found on the 1840 Census for Cape Girardeau MO. He does not have a wife at the time of the census. On 11/18/1841, he married his neighbor Catsy SHELTON (b. 1819 TN). Their daughter, Germima, was born in 1843 in Mississippi. Other children of Anthony and Catsy were born in Yell County, AR: Alonzo b. 1846, Elijah b. 1847, Christina b. 4/24/1848, Sarah b. 1849, Susan M. b. 4/12/1851. Anthony and his family are found on the Yell Co, AR census in 1850. Catsy SHELTON died @ 1851, probably in Yell Co. AR. After her death, Anthony moved to Missouri and the young children were placed with their SHELTON relations. Anthony is found on the 1860 Census for Bollinger County MO, living alone, aged 66, a wagonmaker. Conflicting family stories suggest that Anthony died either in Ava, Douglas County MO @1865, or in Arkansas before 1870. Abraham INMAN (b. 1805 TN, Hezekiah II/Christiana) married Malissa BRANCH in Tennessee @ 1830. Found on the 1830 census for Maury Co. TN, age 20-30, married with no children. Moved to Wayne Co. TN before 1836 when he is found on the tax roll. Lived in Marshall Co. MS @ 1841-1846 when he moved to Obion Co. TN. Died there in 1884. Children of Abraham INMAN and Malissa BRANCH: (1) Nicholas Franklin INMAN (b. 1830 TN, d. 1886 Obion, TN); (2) Arabella INMAN (b. 1833 TN, d. 1876 Obion TN); (3) John Fletcher INMAN (b. 1835 TN, d. 1876 Obion TN); (4) Eliza Ann INMAN (b. @1837 TN); (5) Thomas Reedus INMAN (b. 1839 TN, d. 1924 Obion TN); (6) Hezekiah (b. 1842, d. 1869 Obion, TN); (7) Malissa B. (b. @1843); (8) Margaret J. (b. @1847); (9) Lutie H. (b. 1851, d. 1883 Obion TN). Elizabeth INMAN (b. 1824 TN, Hezekiah II/Eliza A. BRANCH) married Henderson KIRK in 1843 in Marshall Co. MS. They had 4 children: (1) Hezekiah Nimrod KIRK (b. 1844 MS), (2) Emily KIRK (b. 1845 MS), (3) Joseph KIRK (b. 1849 MS), and (4) Sampson S. KIRK (b. 1853 MS). Elizabeth died in 1853 in Marshall Co. MS. On the 1850 census, Elizabeth's widowed mother, Eliza, and her younger brother, Joseph, are living with her husband an children. About 1858, her husband, brother (Joseph), mother and children moved to Williamson County, Texas. Joseph INMAN (b. 1829 TN, Hezekiah II/Eliza A. BRANCH) moved to Williamson County TX with his mother and uncle before 1860. He married Emmer J. [Maiden Name Unknown] in 1872 in Williamson Co. TX. They had 3 known children: (1) Quey (b. 1872 TX), (2) Isick (b. 1876 TX) and (3) Marthey (b. 1879 TX). Generation 4: Martha INMAN (b. 1825 TN, Anthony/1st wife) married 12/30/1844 to John McLAUGHLIN in Yell, AR. Martha remained in Yell County. Hezekiah Joseph "Joe" INMAN (b. 8/22/1829 TN, Anthony/1st wife) married Hester BALL in 1855. They settled in Douglas Co. MO Francis Marion "F.M." INMAN/INNMON (b. 1832 TN, Anthony/1st wife) is found on the 1860 Census for Williamson County, Texas, living near his Uncles Henderson KIRK and Joseph M. INMAN, and his step-grandmother Eliza. He and his cousin, Hezekiah Nimrod KIRK served in the same Confederate unit from Williamson County, TX -- 7th Texas Cavalry Co. C. After the war, he returned to Williamson County and married widow Martha Evylon BAILEY [WILLIAMS] (b. 1845 TX) and purchased land in the Rock House community in 1868. F.M. and Martha raised her 2 children from her first marriage and 6 sons from their marriage on the land in Williamson County. The children of F.M. and Martha are: (1) Hezekiah (b. 1867), (2) William Henry (b. 1869), (3) Francis Marion Jr. (b. 1872), (4) Joseph (b. 1875), (5) Andrew Jackson "Jack" (b. 1878), and (6) Anthony Tony (b. 1881). Hezekiah Nimrod KIRK (b. 1844 MS, Elizabeth/Henderson KIRK) married Ann [Maiden Name Unknown} @ 1875 in Williamson Co. TX. They had 3 known children: (1) Joe (b. 1876), (2) Edward (b. 1878) and (3) Emma (b. 1880).

Found in Miscellaneous Records of Williamson County, Tennessee, v. 2: "Christiana Inman v. Hezekiah Inman divorce Oct. 1814. Christiana sues by Lazarus Inman. They were married about 20 years ago in North Carolina. They had 5 children, 4 of which are now living. He abandoned her and the children 7 years ago in Williamson County. He has been living in adultry with Nancy Devine by whom he has several children. He has not supported her or the children. Her father died about 3 months ago and left her an interest in the estate. Hezekiah is trying to get possession of her share." I believe this to refer to Hezekiah INMAN II (b. @1770 NC, d. @1847 MS), son of Hezekiah INMAN I (b. @1730, d. bfr 1790 NC) who was brother of Ezekial and uncle of SMA. I belive that these 2 are children of Hezekiah II and Christiana: (1) Anthony INMAN (b. 1796 NC, d. aft 1865 MO/AR) (2) Abraham INMAN (b. 1805 TN, d. 1884 TN) Possible children: (3) Hezekiah III "Kiah" (b. 1794-1804) 1820 Census Williamson Co. TN, age 16-26, female over 45 living in his household. (4) John (b. 1794-1804) Census Williamson Co. TN, age 16-26 (4) Lazarus (b. 1800-1810) 1830 Census Williamson Co. TN, age 20-30. Questions raised: --who was the Lazarus INMAN who Christiana "sued by"? --who was Christiana's father who had just died? --who were the children fathered by Hezekiah with Nancy DEVINE? did they use the surname INMAN or DEVINE? Susan Innmon Nelson sinelson@aol.com

I find it interesting that the Riley name appears in your family. There were a number of Riley Bunches. I can't remember whether you were the one I was talking to about Polk County, Missouri Bunches and Grainger County, TN Bunches. However, last night I stumbled across a little book I purchased a number of years ago: "The Slicker War" by Clarke Thomas and Jack Glendenning. It was published in 1984 (the year that I bought it) by Bona Publishing Company, Aldrich, MO. This book details the wild and wooly life and times of Benton, Hickory and Polk Counties, MO during the 1840s. [I forgot all about this book until I stumbled across it last night while cleaning out my office!!! Housecleaning serves a purpose from time to time.] Briefly, in 1831 an Andrew Jones, his family, and the families of his three brothers: John, Samuel and Isaac, arrive in MO from Hademan County, TN (east of Memphis). According to the book, "Andrew first settled a few miles to the west in St. Clair County, but moved to the bottoms along the pomme de Terre river as Indian land became availabe. The area where he moved is known as Breshear's Valley or Breshear's Prairie...The Joneses were coarse, rough mannered, illiterate men given to horse racing and gambling. Andrew had an especially bad reputation" (p. 10). This Jones family came into conflict with a family of Turks who were from...guess where?...AUGUSTA COUNTY, VA. The leader of the Turk family was HIRAM KERR TURK, who was born between 1790 and 1800 in Augusta County, but in 1818, he had relocated to Blount County, TN. This Hiram Kerr Turk was commissioned First Major in the TN militia in July 1826 and in Sept 1834, he was commissioned Colonel of the 98th Regt. of the TN Militia. By 1833, he was justice of the peace. And as part of his father's estate, he had received over 300 acres of land in MONROE COUNTY, TN (where my Hoods had settled--my note). The Turks left TN because of a big lawsuit. When they moved, Hiram's family consisted of his wife Martha, and their 4 sons: James, Tom, Nathan, and Robert (note: these Turks were tall, quite muscular, well-dressed and well-educated. However, they were also violent because they engaged in the "sport" of "slicking"--strapping a man to a tree and "slicking" his back raw with a hickory switch! The Turks and the Joneses exchanged bullets and slicks with one another and eventually, the Joneses left Missouri for Texas in 1842. The 1840s found the Turks in Polk County, Mo where they tried to take on the Baptists. According to the book, "Richard Owings, a Baptist preacher, preached a sermon that the slickers felt was directed against them. One of the slickers was reported to have said that if the baptists took sides against them, the baptists would be run out of the country, too" (pp. 39-40). A major shootout involed the Polk County Sheriff: SAMUEL H. BUNCH, who was apparently a friend of the Turks and who was a political adversary to the local Judge--Judge Human--[the town of Humansville is named for this judge]. The warfare continued until the outbreak of the civil war, and the new conflict attracted more interest than the old Turk vs. Everyone turmoil. What intrigues me about all of this of course is the Kerr name (Augusta County, VA), the Bunch name (VA, TN, MO), Monroe, TN [where Thomas Hood died in 1820]. There was a Samuel Bunch from eastern TN during the War of 1812 (Grainger/Knox/Hawkins). My Inman line intermarried with the Grahams of NC, and a John Graham, who was one of the earliest settlers in Benton County, was elected county assessor in 1838. This John Graham was one of the most respected men in the community; however, he collided (physically) with the Turks. There was a Spencer family residing in Eastern TN, who intermarried with the Bunches, and I'm still trying to figure out the Knox County Spence families. And now--the Hardemann County, TN Joneses and their possible connection with the Joneses who intermarried with my family. (This Andrew Jones got into a "pack of trouble" in Texas; Andy Jones was hanged on the charge of murder; Bob Jones had to hang Andy Jones, Loud Ray, Harvey Ray and a man named Mitchell, and get out of the county). Returning to one of my earlier statements: this is all one big happy family!! Dr. Barbara Inman Beall BIBeall@email.msn.com Website: http://twigs-of-inman-spence.rootsweb.com/ -----Original Message----- From: zella coffman <zellacoffman@hotmail.com> To: COFFMAN-L@rootsweb.com <COFFMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 12:44 PM Subject: [COFFMAN-L] Fwd: Bunch, Coffman RE: JOHN COFFMAN b. 3/JUN/1819 >I am Fwd this because of ref. to Coffman,s. Hope someone makes a connection. >Thanks Carl in Wichita > > >>From: "R. Riley" <rkriley@nemr.net> >>To: BUNCH-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Bunch, Coffman >>Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:30:05 -0500 >> >>Hello, >>I am new to this list. My husband's grandmother was a Bunch. I have taken >>the liberty of including all the Bunch info I have below in case it >>connects with someone. Some of them married Coffmans. The list starts >>with my husband's father. Also, have any of you heard of "Melungeons"? I >>subscribe to that list and their are many Bunchs mentioned there. >>Apparently Bunch is a common Melungeon name and also is common in certain >>Indian tribes such as Lumbee. Anyone have any further info on this? >>Thanks. >> >>2. Herbert Lee"Dick" Riley [12314], born 10 Feb 1910; died 26 May 1976 in >>Kirksville, Adair, Mo, son of 4. Julius Lee Riley [3269] and 5. Mintie E. >>Bunch [3259]. >> >>5. Mintie E. Bunch [3259], born 18 Jun 1888; died 21 Jul 1974, daughter of >>10. Greenberry B. Bunch [14453] and 11. Leona Leota Lewis [14512]. >> >>10. Greenberry B. Bunch [14453], born 30 Jan 1846; died 23 Aug 1919 in >>Sullivan County, Missouri; buried in Bute, Sullivan, Mo, Bute Cemetery, >>son of 18. John Bunch [14447] and 19. Cynthia Ann Summers [14448]. >>Notes for Greenberry B. Bunch >> His children are: Minnie- John Coffman; Laura- Frank Burrus; Riley- >>Mary Coffman; Mintie -Lee Riley 2- Lois Jacobs; Johnny- Cordia Taylor; Eva- >>Henry Hampton; Jesse- Temple Riddle >> >>18. John Bunch [14447], born 3 Jun 1819 in Cumberland Co., Tenn; died 20 >>Feb 1909 in Milan, Sullivan Co., Missouri; buried in Bute, Sullivan, Mo, >>Bute Cemetery, son of 34. Stokely Bunch [14449] and 35. Abby Baker [14450]. >>He married on 1 Dec 1842 in , Sullivan County, Missouri 19. Cynthia Ann >>Summers [14448], born May 1827 in Indiana; died 21 Apr 1897 in Sullivan >>County, Missouri; buried in Bute, Sullivan, Mo, Bute Cemetery, daughter of >>36. Greenberry Summers [14587] and 37. Nancy Elliott [14588]. >>Children of John Bunch and Cynthia Ann Summers were as follows: >> i Almeda Bunch [14460], born 1845 in Sullivan County, >>Missouri; died 20 Mar 1934 in Sullivan County, Missouri. Also known as >>Alvey or "Ali". >> ii Greenberry B. Bunch [14453], born 30 Jan 1846; died >>23 Aug 1919 in Sullivan County, Missouri; buried in Bute, Sullivan, Mo, >>Bute Cemetery. >> iii Stokely D Bunch [14451], born 1849 in Sullivan >>County, Missouri; died 1909 in Sullivan County, Missouri; buried in Bute, >>Sullivan, Mo, Bute Cemetery. >> iv James S Bunch [14454], born 1851 in Sullivan >>County, Missouri. He was club-footed and never married. >> v Lavina Bunch [14459], born 1853 in Sullivan County, >>Missouri. >> vi George Franklin Bunch [14445], born 13 Apr 1860; >>died 11 Sep 1919; buried in Pickerel Cem., Milan, Sullivan County, >>Missouri. Known by Frank. >> vii Nancy Ellen Bunch [14456], born 1861 in Sullivan >>County, Missouri. >> viii Mary Ann Bunch [14455], born abt 1865 in Sullivan >>County, Missouri. >> ix Missouri Bunch [14524], born 3 Jun 1866 in Sullivan >>County, Missouri; died 3 Jun 1866 in Sullivan County, Missouri; buried in >>Bunch Cemetery. >> x Hirim Benjamin Bunch [14452], born 1869 in Sullivan >>County, Missouri; died 1942 in Sullivan County, Missouri; buried in Bute, >>Sullivan, Mo, Bute Cemetery. Also known as Hike. >> xi Ida A Bunch [14457], born 1871 in Sullivan County, >>Missouri; died 1927 in Sullivan County, Missouri. >> xii Betsy Belle Bunch [12352], born 3 Jun 1866 in >>Sullivan County, Missouri; died 10 Mar 1940 in Sullivan County, Missouri; >>buried in , Sullivan, Mo, Mt. Zion Cemetery. >> >>34. Stokely Bunch [14449], born 1793 in Clay County, Kentucky; died 1868 in >>Sullivan County, Missouri; buried in Bute, Sullivan, Mo, Bute Cemetery, >>son of 52. James Bunch [15009]. He married (1) in 1819 35. Abby Baker >>[14450], born 1805; died 1859 in Sullivan County, Missouri; (2) Mahala >>Seaburn [14506], born 1783/1812; died 1850/60, daughter of Jacob Seabourn >>[2686] and Anna Price [2687]; (3) in 1830 Christina Clark [14507], born >>1789 in North Carolina. >>Children of Stokely Bunch and Abby Baker were as follows: >> i William Bunch [14461], born 1819 in Kentucky. >>Married Nancy Clark in Chariton County Missouri in 1842 >> ii John Bunch [14447], born 3 Jun 1819 in Cumberland >>Co., Tenn; died 20 Feb 1909 in Milan, Sullivan Co., Missouri; buried in >>Bute, Sullivan, Mo, Bute Cemetery. >> iii Ann Bunch [14462], born 1823 in Clay County, >>Kentucky; died 1893 in Sullivan County, Missouri. >> iv Arvey Bunch [14463], born 1825 in Sullivan County, >>Missouri. Also known as Arvie. Married William Page 8 Feb 1846 in >>Sullivan County Mo. >> v James Bunch [14464], born 20 Nov 1826 in Clay >>County, Kentucky; died 28 Jan 1909 in Sullivan County, Missouri; buried in >>Bute, Sullivan, Mo, Bute Cemetery. >> vi Martha Bunch [14465], born 1828 in Clay County, >>Kentucky. Married Wm. A. Penland on 21 Aug 1849 in Sullivan County Mo. >> vii Edward Bunch [14466], born 1830. Also called Ned. >>Died young, was a sailor >> viii Elizabeth Bunch [14467], born 1833 in , , , Missouri. >> ix Lavina Bunch [14468], born 1835 in Missouri; died >>1895. >> x George Bunch [14469], born 1840 in Missouri; died >>1876 in Sullivan County, Missouri. >> xi Stokely5 Bunch (Jr.) [14470], born 1843 in Sullivan >>County, Missouri. >> >>52. James Bunch [15009], born abt 1750 in , , Va He married unknown. >> Children of James Bunch were as follows: >> i Stokely Bunch [14449], born 1793 in Clay County, >>Kentucky; died 1868 in Sullivan County, Missouri; buried in Bute, >>Sullivan, Mo, Bute Cemetery. >> >> >> >> > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >______________________________

Thank you for this response. I knew that it had to be an explanation like this. Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Norris <nmt1@ix.netcom.com> To: SPENCER-L@rootsweb.com <SPENCER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 7:06 PM Subject: Re: The "Junior" Problem >On Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:45:11 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: > >>The other day I was complaining about how nicknames >>impede research. Here's another problem: our >>ancestors' unusual usage of "Jr." when naming a child. > >Our ancestors, pre-revolution, and probably for a time after, didn't >name their sons as Jr. > >That was an identification "label" placed on the younger of two >individuals in the community with the same name, usually just by >practice, but then carried out by the town clerk. > >And those labels would change as one got older. > >For example, you could have three John Smith's in a community. One not >related, one an uncle and one a nephew. The nephew might be Jr., the >uncle, Sr and the one not related not given any label. > >In the next decade, the uncle died and the nephew might have a nephew >named John Smith. The first nephew would become Sr and the new nephew >would become Jr. > >And so on and so on. > >This label was also occasionally used for women and only meant there >was someone else in town who had that name, who was older. When you >run into a Jr. reference, you should generally endeavor to identify >who the Senior in that town was, and when the label changed. > >It is a very useful label, as clerks were generally careful to >consistently name a person by their "label", at least until the label >changed. Therefore, it is a good way to distinguish between >individuals in references to an individual in deeds, etc. > >For pre-revolution entries in your database, and even up to 1800 or a >skosh later, it can be very confusing to enter Sr, Jr, etc. I >generally don't enter them. > > >Norris > >-- >Silver Bullet <nmt1@ix.netcom.com> >Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html >--------------------------------------- >

The other day I was complaining about how nicknames impede research. Here's another problem: our ancestors' unusual usage of "Jr." when naming a child. For example--I think that I reinvestigated the Edward Spencer line 5 dozen times because of this situation. Edward Spencer married Elizabeth Taliaferro. One of their sons, Joseph, had a son named Edward Spencer, Jr. The second Edward also had a son named Joseph, but he didn't have a "Junior" in his name. Edward Jr. caused me a million nightmares until I was finally able to piece the information together from wills. He was named for his grandfather--not his father. My husband has the same problem in his family. He descends directly from Col. Samuel Beall, who was also Samuel Beall, Jr. He had a son named Samuel Brooke Beall--and researchers have confused the two of them. The problem is this: there was no Samuel Beall Sr. unless he lived two generations before Sam, Jr. Sam Jr.'s father was Ninian Beall, Jr., the son of Col. Ninian Beall. If anyone knows why these people used "Junior" so freely, I would be interested to know. Barbara === Barbara Inman Beall, Ph.D. Professional Writer, Editor, Researcher Lancaster-Wormiston Press E-Mail: BIBeall@email.msn.com, BBeall43@yahoo.com Voice Mail: (303)556-5477 Snail Mail: P.O. Box 173, Broomfield, CO 80038-0173 Website: http://twigs-of-inman-spence.rootsweb.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

...and I promise not to mess around with it any more for a while. I was trying to put a picture on the front page and ended up locking it up again. It will do just fine without a picture until I master the art of image transfer. Anyway, enjoy http://twigs-of-inman-spence.rootsweb.com/ Barbara

In case some of you are trying to access the "Twigs" website, I'm messing around with it again--trying to put a picture on the front. That will be done as soon as I can get into it through my ftp server. I think everyone is at home today and everyone is on the web. Barbara

"Peer Workshopping" is a mandate in my college compositions classes I teach. Several days before a paper is due, my students form groups of four or five and exchange drafts of their papers. Then they write comments on the papers: what works? what doesn't work? what's missing? what's great and I shouldn't change it? etc. etc. Then the readers return the papers to the writer, and the writer makes revisions based upon the readers' comments. Well, that is somewhat difficult to do on the web; hence, my "Twigs of Inman and Spence" website. I've already changed my mind: I'm not going to wait a full year in order to combine all four volumes into a book. I simply have too much material (and a lot of it wasn't put on the website due to space limitations). So after volume I is pulled from the site and is replaced by volume II, I'm going to go ahead and prepare Vol I as a book. The title will be the same as the website article: "When Spence Met Spencer: the story of Elisha Spence (1776-1835) and Susannah Spence (1785-1810)". I want to expand those sub titles into separate chapters--and I'm already finding new things to add to it. I was in a quandry as to what I should do with all that South Carolina South Carolina material I collected (mind you--one Will shot me off that course and put me in the right direction--VA), but I think I'm going to do a separate book on the South Carolina Spencers since I've acquired so much material about them and I hate to let it all go to waste. That will be the subject of Vol. V, perhaps--unless another line captures my interest between now and then. Anyway, the website is working and I've already received a lot of response. One person suggested my linking names with names on the Table of Contents page. I may try that. If a Jones is looking for Joneses and has to read the whole thing trying to find the family or families--well, it becomes a drawn-out process. Anyway, keep your comments coming. I'm open to suggestions. Dr. Barbara Inman Beall bibeall@email.msn.com http://twigs-of-inman-spence.rootsweb.com/

Wow, this is all so neat. These people had such strange nicknames for one another. For example, my 4th great grandfather was Elisha Spence. His nickname was Lisha or Li Spence. (His grandson, Lazarus, was always called Laz Spence). That Li Spence nickname prevented me from finding Elisha's estate file for the longest time. I've discovered another weird nickname on the Triplett line. The man's name was John Thomas Triplett. People called him Elzey. I have yet to discover the reason why. I can't help but wonder what everyone called Meshach--whether he was Me Inman or Shack Inman, or some other crazy thing that doesn't make sense. My Grandfather Spence always called my son (whose name is Brian) "Bub". I understand that "Bub" is an old Scottish nickname that goes way back. The worst nicknamers were the Normans, by the way--and their nicknames were often not very complimentary. We may very well have them to thank for "name calling". Ezekiel Inman (son of Samuel Inman), appears on many records as "Ike Inman". Anyway--these pesky nicknames railroad a lot of researchers when they are trying to locate their ancestors. Barbara -----Original Message----- From: cjgram1@ibm.net <cjgram1@ibm.net> To: BIBeall@email.msn.com <BIBeall@email.msn.com> Date: Sunday, September 05, 1999 10:08 PM Subject: Re: Meshack Inman >Hi Barbara; > Just finished reading your writings on your family. It is really >great. > I am also a descendant of Meshack Inman, not only through the Graham >connection but through a Keeling line. > I want to thank you for the name of Rebecca Elizabeth Graham as we had >been calling her Sallie. Must have been a nickname. Too, you showed me >where I'm tied in with another line of Grahams I had questions about. >My line of descent comes from Andrew Graham, 1756, Albemarle Co.,VA and >Frances Duren, 1760, Lounden Co.,VA. > It was wonderful to see all these names in your report that have been >strangers to me for so long. > Again, thanks... > Carlene Graham in TN.

Paul Martin wrote: > Jim, > > Recently I posted my Inman family history on GenForum and received two > messages from Thomas S. Inman stating " Further, Robert did not have a son, > Ezekial." and the other message was something about no proof of Robert > Inman's parents. I posted a message to him and emailed him also, thanking > him for his comments and asking for his help in getting my lines of Inman > straight. I explained to him that since my husband's stroke in 1993 that I > had given up genealogical research until last year when I bought a computer > and tried to do it this way. I also explained that I sometimes feel I am > only a compiler these days instead of a genealogist the way I used to be > when I was visiting libraries, cemeteries and courthouses. > > I cannot get a response from him. I went back through the GenForum to see > if I could find any other comments from him and noted he had commented to > you sometime around Feb 1998. Did you ever get a response from him? > > I truly do appreciate people giving me advice and helping me with correcting > any errors I may have on my family files, but wish they would not just make > the comment and then fade away. > > Just wanted to get this off my chest. Take care and hope you had a nice > summer. We are getting plenty of rain from Dennis today in Winston-Salem. > > Jo Martin > > See my Home Page > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/a/r/Mary--J-Martin/index.html Sorry. Thomas Inman seems to think that he is absolutely correct and that no discussion is necessary. He locks his mailbox so as to not get email from anyone who might disagree. He is the grandson of the Francis Inman who wrote the article about the VA Inmans that I have posted on my site. I have tried several times to reach him, to no avail. At one time I had his phone number, but he has moved since that time. When we talked, he was going to send me some more data on that line. I never got that. He may be right. All I purport on my site is to be the "best available" information. Without proof to the contrary I don't see any reason to change anything. He hasn't made it clear to me exactly what is wrong in the database. So I can't can't even consider changing things. I am going to send this to the Rootsweb list as well. Hopefully someone will know Tom and get him to respond with an open mailbox. His email used to be TSI@aol.com (if I remember). I have also gotten similar mail and comments from haildot@aol.com. I do not know if this was Tom or not. It would be nice to get his input and get this corrected. I will try the address from GenForum to write to him. Let me know what you hear. -- Jim Williams - Please update your bookmarks to the links below. --> Shortcuts to The Inman Compendium <-- Main page - http://inman.surnameweb.org/index.htm Submit a Bio - http://inman.surnameweb.org/guest/biopage.htm Database - http://inman.surnameweb.org/database.htm Photo Album - http://inman.surnameweb.org/contact.htm

After my week-long crash course in html lingo and how to ftp files to the server.... ...and here we need a few drum rolls... ...the website is finally up and it works. I just checked it. So, to access it, go to http://twigs-of-inman-spence.rootsweb.com/ and have a great time reading it. Now, I have to find some more mischief to get into. Barbara

I asked Rootsweb to dump out all the files I have been transferring to that website all week. I think some of those files have been hanging around in there and have been attaching to the revisions I've been sending up to them. I discovered that possibility last night while sending a final revised version. The program reached into my "wastebasket" full of trashed versions (I hadn't emptied the "trash", pulled them all out, and sent them with the good version! Once they are all cleaned out--I can send the finally-fixed version--and it should be up and operating--I HOPE--by tonight!!!! --- Doris Fountain <doriskf@ibm.net> wrote: > Thanks for the map tip. This weekend a friend asked > about where to look > for a small town in England from where his > Brumbrelou (sp?) family came. > Your suggestion was custom-made for him. > > Thanks and good luck with the website. This week > we'll be in Denver > visiting our daughter there, so will think of you. > > Doris > > === Barbara Inman Beall, Ph.D. Professional Writer, Editor, Researcher Lancaster-Wormiston Press E-Mail: BIBeall@email.msn.com, BBeall43@yahoo.com Voice Mail: (303)556-5477 Snail Mail: P.O. Box 173, Broomfield, CO 80038-0173 Website: http://twigs-of-inman-spence.rootsweb.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

But I have found the culprit and as soon as I get home, I will fix it. One of my students asked me the other day how I learned to do a website. My response: trial and error. I created my school website through the Claris Works editor and loaded it onto the system with no problems. This "twigs" thing is really a challenge. I'm starting to dream about it. All those ancestors who are waiting to have their stories told are beginning to "chew me out!" I am currently in the process of printing out 29 pages of a "how to fix it" html reference guide here at school and when I get home--I'm going to fix it. Meanwhile, while you are waiting for my website, I have one to recommend. I was looking for a little town or village in England the other day and couldn't find it on a regular map. Then I stumbled across this website: http://www.mapquest.com I typed in the name of the village and there it was! You can find just about any place in the world at this location--and if you are planning a trip to visit your ancestors' origins--you can make reservations, etc. etc. here. I definitely recommend it. It certainly beats squinting at a hard-to-read atlas with a magnifying glass!!! Barbara === Barbara Inman Beall, Ph.D. Professional Writer, Editor, Researcher Lancaster-Wormiston Press E-Mail: BIBeall@email.msn.com, BBeall43@yahoo.com Voice Mail: (303)556-5477 Snail Mail: P.O. Box 173, Broomfield, CO 80038-0173 Website: http://twigs-of-inman-spence.rootsweb.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

I put the announce for this years Inman Family Reunion on the web page. Also, I have received two new pictures of Inmans that I put on the Photos page. They are of William Hyman Inman and Mary Lisa Edward Inman. This year, new information has been hard to come by but several of you are new to the mail list and have helped Don fill in and correct information from last years publications. We hope to get to meet each of you at the reunion this year. Any Inman blood in your veins make you kin and we are proud to call you family. Please notify your family members that don't have email (or are not on this mail list) of the reunion. Remember to send updates and corrections to me at jdnman@hotmail.com or to Don at inman-df@juno.com -- we enjoy getting your emails and discovering new information and leads everyday! Cuz'n Jimmy Visit the Inmans of Southeastern NC/SC web page at: http:\\www.geocities.com/Heartland/1871 =========================================================== ALSO - Don't forget the reunion this next weekend in AR. INMAN FAMILY REUNION September 5, 1999 Pine Bluff National Bank White Hall, Arkansas Reunion will be all day - Pot Luck They will be gathering family information and exchanging favorite recipes. For further details, contact: Zane & Betsy Inman Foster 870-247-1772 205 Roberts Ave. White Hall, AR 71602 --- This email is going to Jim's email list and to the Rootsweb List which is why you might get two copies. Please email inman@surnameweb.org if you wish to be removed from this list.

Nope, it's not working. When I get home today--guess what I get to do. I'll keep you posted. For some odd reason, I am only able to get from the home page to the table of contents--and that is all I am able to do. So...will let you know. Barbara === Barbara Inman Beall, Ph.D. Professional Writer, Editor, Researcher Lancaster-Wormiston Press E-Mail: BIBeall@email.msn.com, BBeall43@yahoo.com Voice Mail: (303)556-5477 Snail Mail: P.O. Box 173, Broomfield, CO 80038-0173 Website: http://twigs-of-inman-spence.rootsweb.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

I just checked the "Twigs of Inman & Spence" website. The changes I made at 2:00 did the trick--or at least they appear to be working. I took out the pictures (all except the front page). Will save the pictures for the book. If anyone is still having problems, let me know. I may have to fool around with that front page picture after returning home today. If you can't see the picture, tell me. Also, please let me know whether all the links are finally working. That website is http://twigs-of-inman-spence@rootsweb.com Thank you for your interest. A very sleepy, but I have to leave to school in a few minutes.... ...Barbara

I may have those links straightened out (finally) http://twigs-of-inman-spence.rootsweb.com I'll try it from work tomorrow. Let's hope it's working Barbara

Jenny French LaMore has submitted a Bio Page to The Inman Compendium. Here is the new entry: Jenny French LaMore jlamore@concentric.net 9525 Donalds Ct. St. Louis, MO 63126 USA (314) 843-9346 The Word Processor I use is WordPerfect My computer is IBM The Genealogy prog. I use is: Family Tree Maker I accept GEDCOMS: YES My e-mail reader is set up for HTML: NO My lineage is as follows: 7 - William Inman, b. ca 1743 VA, d. 20 June 1803, on ca 1767 md. Susanna? 6 - Edmond Inman, b. ca 1782 VA, d. aft 1860, on 28 Dec. 1803 md. Fanny Thurman, b. ca 1785, d. bef. 1850 5 - Pernecia Inman, b. ca 1820 KY, d. 20 Apr. 1885, on 14 May 1837 md. Amos Smith, b. 3 July 1819 TN, d. 10 Nov. 1872 4 - Sarah Lavinia Smith, b. 13 July 1855 KY, d. 12 June 1933, on 22 Dec. 1875 md. William C.Taliaferro, b. ca 1840 VA, d. 23 July 1908 3 - Pernecia Taliaferro, b. 12 Mar. 1877 KY, d. 17 Apr. 1963, on 2 Feb. 1899 md. Worthey C. Farley, b. 8 May 1876 KY, d. 16 Apr. 1956 2 - Dorothy Dean Farley, b. 7 Dec. 1907 KY, on 22 June 1929 md. Aubrey W. French, b. 8 Dec. 1907 TN 1 - Jenny French LaMore, b. 18 Oct. 1936 KY, d. Robert LaMore, on 10 Aug 1958 md. Robert J. LaMore, b. 13 Oct. 1933 MO States - VA, KY, Received - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 15:06:34 (CDT) --- This email is going to Jim's email list and to the Rootsweb List which is why you might get two copies. Please email inman@surnameweb.org if you wish to be removed from this list.