In a message dated 6/3/00 10:42:44 AM Central Daylight Time, GraveNews2@aol.com writes: << In a message dated 6/2/00 3:22:16 PM US Eastern Standard Time, LEastes2@aol.com writes: We need stories and rumors, they are great and often lead to the truth! BUT - Help eliminate errors. Don't take anything as Fact! Check references for validity! If we don’t our children’s children will be led down false trails and they will never be able to find their true heritage. Hi Roy, I hate to "rain on your parade". LEWIS FAMILY PIONEERS is a great little book, and for the most part has proved fairly accurate, however, there is an error regarding Jonathan Webb's wife Rachel. She was NOT the daughter of Nathan Lewis. I don't know who she was. It is probable that Jonathan Webb was was a brother to Mary Webb, wife of Nathan Lewis, thus Rachel would be a great aunt to the writer, William G. Lewis, but only because she was married to Jonathan Webb. I haven't really pursued the Webbs. The estate settlement of Nathan Lewis was divided by 1/7's and did not include Jonathan & Rachel Webb. I had corresponded with you previously, but I don't believe you had stated that you were a descendant of Jonathan Webb, or I would have called your attention to this at that time. Sorry. I think Jonathan Webb probably migrated to Virginia from his home in Berks Co PA settling near other members of his family who migrated to Sullivan Co TN (at that time, the back country of NC). Happy Hunting, Lou in Indiana <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Lou - Ruth Webb, daughter of Jonathon Webb Jr and Rachel Lewis was my GGrandmother but I have not pursued this line too much as I hit a dead end with Jonathon Jr. Thanks for the tip on Jonathon Webb's wife Rachel. In checking my data base I do not show any parents or siblings for Rachel. So, you really didn't "rain on my parade!" However, I could have had it recorded and made an error, so thanks for pointing this out! I have a copy of the Lewis book and have found several errors in the Eastes line as stated on pages 51-53. Since much of this book consists of stories from individual's memories, the information should be verified before stating it as fact. Stories like this from our elders are very important and should always be considered but we are still human and our memories do trick us sometimes! The paragraph at the top of this letter is a Mail Signature I use to encourage others to avoid errors. This stemmed from a Special Issue of the National Genealogical Quarterly published in September 1999. In December 1999, I wrote a paper titled, How accurate Are Your Records. I sent this out to several mail lists as suggested guide lines for us all to follow. This paper was also published on the front page of the December 1999 issue of Estes Trails, periodical. Since there is so much information floating around on the internet, this would seem to be a good time to send it along again for everyone's information. ------------------------------------- Subj: Suggested Guide Lines for Records Date: 12/3/1999 To: _________@rootsweb.com Hi Everyone - The following is not pointed any any particular person but is a suggestion for us all to follow: HOW ACCURATE ARE OUR RECORDS? By LeRoy F. Eastes 3 December 1999 When we record our heritage we take great pride in looking at our list of ancestors and admire their origins, migrations and accomplishments. But, what good is it - unless it's true? In recent years there are more and more genealogical assumptions and misleading information being circulated due the coming of the internet. I know most of it's unintentional as I have found myself guilty of doing the same thing in the past. This innocent practice comes about by picking up information that is not documented or if it is we don't check the validity of the references. Then with all good intentions, we record it and pass it on not knowing if it is true or not! An element of error has always existed in genealogical research. If we look closely at public documents, errors have been found in almost every type of legal record that ever existed. Wills, marriage, birth, land, court and military records. Many times these are the results of human error but some have been intentionally induced for a variety of personal reasons. The coming of the internet has been a great boon for genealogical research. At the same time it's multiplying errors and is out of control like a contagious disease. There are many individuals and organizations that collect files from donors everywhere they can be found, which in itself is fine. Unfortunately, not all of these records are correct. Many do not show any documentation, others are found with misleading and often inaccurate information and references. Also unfortunately, some researchers are too eager to grab the first thing that "sounds reasonable" and treat it as a gospel fact. These records are copied by the unwary, passed on to an untold number of others, accepted as fact and the problem is perpetuated into the future. . There is nothing wrong with recording and passing along estimates of dates, places and even theories and stories. This is where we find the key elements that lead to the true picture of the past. However, information of this nature must be recognized and treated as such by all of us. This is a very serious problem and recognized by the National Genealogical Society. They felt it to so important they published a Special Edition to their quarterly publication on the subject. The following are the Standards recommend by the Society and can be found on the internet at - http://www.ngsgenealogy.org/ (I suggest everyone take a look at Consumer Relations while on this site) Standards For Sound Genealogical Research Recommended by the National Genealogical Society Remembering always that they are engaged in a quest for truth, family history researchers consistently - - record the source for each item of information they collect. - test every hypothesis or theory against credible evidence, and reject those that are not supported by the evidence. - seek original records, or reproduced images of them when there is reasonable assurance they have not been altered, as the basis for their research conclusions. - use compilations, communications and published works, whether paper or electronic, primarily for their value as guides to locating the original records. - state something as a fact only when it is supported by convincing evidence, and identify the evidence when communicating the fact to others. - limit with words like "probable" or "possible" any statement that is based on less than convincing evidence, and state the reasons for concluding that it is probable or possible. - avoid misleading other researchers by either intentionally or carelessly distributing or publishing inaccurate information. - state carefully and honestly the results of their own research, and acknowledge all use of others work. - recognize the collegial nature of genealogical research by making their work available to others through publication, or by placing copies in appropriate libraries or repositories, and by welcoming critical comment. - consider with open minds new evidence or the comments of others on their work and the conclusions they have reached. ©1997 by National Genealogical Society. Permission is granted to copy or publish this material provided it is reproduced in its entirety, including this notice This is followed by two more sections titled: - Standards for Using Records Repositories And Libraries. - Standards For Use Of Technology In Genealogical Research. I encourage everyone to consider these guide lines. All of us who are searching for our ancestors should make an attempt to minimize the possibility of errors. If we don't our children's children will be led down false trails and they will never be able to find their true heritage. Le Roy F. Eastes Ph (228) 832-2224 17271 Lowery Rd Fax (228) 539-5376 Gulfport, MS 39503 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<END >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Lou for helping me from making a misteak!! Best Regards Roy <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< END >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we record our heritage we take great pride in looking at our list of ancestors and admire their origins, migrations and accomplishments. But, what good is it - unless it’s true? We need stories and rumors, they are great and often lead to the truth! BUT - Help eliminate errors. Don't take anything as Fact! Check references for validity! If we don’t our children’s children will be led down false trails and they will never be able to find their true heritage.

What is the area code? Ken Moore

At 05:24 AM 6/2/00 -0500, you wrote: >My name is Linda Ead and I am the President of the Elwood Pipecreek Genealogy Society. > I will be giving a FREE class on: Where Do I Go Now To Find Public Records On My Ancestors. >Where: Elwood Public Library 1600 Main Street Elwood, IN. In the meeting room >When: Monday July 17th at 7 P.M. >You do not have to pre register but if you want to you can call the library >at 552-5001 and tell them you want to attend or you can email me lead@indy.net >That way I can be sure to have hand outs for every one attending. >This class in in co-ordination with the Adult Summer Reading Program the Library has. >Thanks >Linda Ead > > >It wold be great ro attend, but Fla. is a bit too far to come---thanks Louise

Dear Micki, Does your REEVES line connect with Asa REEVES and Rebecca REED of OHIO; their daughter Sarah Jane REEVES married Wiley HOOD; their daughter Tinie Jane HOOD married Jacob Milton BOCK....and their son Eugenes REEVES BOCK became editor of the Anderson Herald...and a researcher of the REEVES/REED family. Rebecca REED REEVES had, among others, two sisters, Lydia who married Joseph LUNBECK [daughter Susan] and Mary "Polly" REED who married John EDMISTEN [son Samuel Q.]. Susan and Samuel Q. married and became my great-greatgrandparents. Rebecca REED also had a sister named Angeline who married Asa REEVES brother, Eli. Many of the REEVES line moved to Rush County, IN and scattered from there. Nikki NICKELL

I am searching for information on my dad. Lester Leo Snyder, born 1901 in Anderson, IN. He had two brothers and a sister which I have information on. I have nothing on my dad except bits and pieces. He died in Vallejo in 1969 and I have his birth and death certificate. I am trying to locate his first wife and my two half brothers. Please help in anyway you can. Thanks. Linda Carr l_carr@wave-net.net

We are still searching for Stokes Families in Madison County. Elwood and Anderson areas. Thanks, Alice Stokes aastokes1@aol.com

Here are my Madison County, IN family names for the roll call. Reeves and Collier (also in Hancock County) Micki

Debbie, in my father's 1914 high school year book in Anderson, IN, Madison Co. there is a Ray Waymire in the freshman class of that year. Philip Swinford

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In a message dated 6/2/00 3:22:16 PM US Eastern Standard Time, LEastes2@aol.com writes: We need stories and rumors, they are great and often lead to the truth! BUT - Help eliminate errors. Don't take anything as Fact! Check references for validity! If we don’t our children’s children will be led down false trails and they will never be able to find their true heritage. Hi Roy, I hate to "rain on your parade". LEWIS FAMILY PIONEERS is a great little book, and for the most part has proved fairly accurate, however, there is an error regarding Jonathan Webb's wife Rachel. She was NOT the daughter of Nathan Lewis. I don't know who she was. It is probable that Jonathan Webb was was a brother to Mary Webb, wife of Nathan Lewis, thus Rachel would be a great aunt to the writer, William G. Lewis, but only because she was married to Jonathan Webb. I haven't really pursued the Webbs. The estate settlement of Nathan Lewis was divided by 1/7's and did not include Jonathan & Rachel Webb. I had corresponded with you previously, but I don't believe you had stated that you were a descendant of Jonathan Webb, or I would have called your attention to this at that time. Sorry. I think Jonathan Webb probably migrated to Virginia from his home in Berks Co PA settling near other members of his family who migrated to Sullivan Co TN (at that time, the back country of NC). Happy Hunting, Lou in Indiana

I have some information of Vier Pettigrew of Madison Co., IN. He was my uncle as he married Bertha Swinford, my father's sister. Philip Swinford PhilSford@aol.com

At 09:17 PM 5/31/00 -0500, you wrote: >I am researching Sizelove, Fuller, Bolton, Bowers, Moore, Reel. Cartwright, >Cunningham, Childers and Quinn in Madison County. > >Debbie Quinn >dquinn@netusa1.net > > I had a great-great grandmother named Fanny Fuller who married a Jacob Waymire. They werew from Elwood, In.

I'm helping my daughter in law research her family tree, she has the following Derrys in her family. James Albert Derry (b 8 Jan 1895 d 29 Jul 1957 in Elwood, Madison Co., IN) m Grace Maud McCarty. They had the following children : James Albert Derry 1914, Robert James Derry 1916, Kenneth Wayne Derry 1917, Norma Jean Derry 1923, Marjorie Ann Derry 1926, Betty Eilene Derry 1927. Kenneth Wayne m. Della Johnson. He was also married to Rose Marie Turepp. Norma Jean m William Nigh (they had 8 children). She was also married to a man named Bretz. Betty Jean was married to Earl Almack. (They have 7 children). sorry this is all I have on this family, if you have more please let me know. Thanks, Barbara L Richardson MDMama2841@aol.com wrote: > > HEY PAT -- > > I am also researching the DERRY (DAIRY) name out of Madison County, Indiana -- > How do you relate? Joan Derry

Researching GOIN in Tipton, Hamilton, and Madison Counties. Carol Hicks Hoopeston, IL

Hi, My half sister's mother was Mildred Greenlee. She was the daughter of Harry Greenlee and Effa Elizabeth Hoop. they were married 9 Sep 1899 in Madison Co., IN. Harry was the son of Andrew Taylor Greenlee and Prudence Ann Ball. They were married 18 Jan 1872 in Madison Co., IN. Andrew was the son William Greenlee and Harriet Sayre. He was one of 7 children. They were married on 15 Apr 1841 in Miegs Co., OH. William Sr died on 11 Jan 1898 in Summitville, Madison Co., IN. They had 13 children. William Sr was the son of another William Greenlee and Susan Musselman. Harriet was the daughter of John Sayre and Hannah Jones. This is far back as I have on the Sayres. I have more on the Greenlees if you want it. Barbara Richardson GraveNews2@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Sherril, I guess there is a "misconnection" here someplace. I was > searching for info on William Greenlee who married Harriet Sayre, 14 April > 1841, Meigs Co, not William Sullivan who married a Greenlee. Do you know if > William & Harriett (Sayre) Greenlee moved to Madison Co IN, and if so, do you > have any info on them. Harriett was a sister to Julia Sayre who married > Jeremiah/Jefferson Sullivan, and a half-sister to Hannah Sayre who married, > 16 Sept 1830 Meigs Co, Thomas Sullivan.

You are researching a "Clem" in Indiana. My greatgrandmother was Lucinda Clem who married a Benjamin Piper they had my grandmother Margaret Piper who married my grandfather Leora Delton Shively. My grandmother Margaret had a sister named Harriet who died of TB at a very young age, possibly 21 years. lshi369@aol.com

HEY PAT -- I am also researching the DERRY (DAIRY) name out of Madison County, Indiana -- How do you relate? Joan Derry

What are the Broyles that you are researching......I have a long list in my tree. Marijean msleadng@comteck.com -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Lund <krlund@gte.net> To: INMADISO-L@rootsweb.com <INMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, June 02, 2000 3:18 PM Subject: [INMADISO-L] Roll Call >Surnames I am researching are: >Harris-Copeland >Sexton >Bowers (Bauers) >Eckert >Weasel >Broyles > >Kathy Lund - Valparaiso, Indiana >krlund@gte.ent > >

Hi Everyone! I have had several requests for information on my Scott line. Here is a report from my files: Descendants of Loton Scott Generation No. 1 1. Loton1 Scott (WalterA) was born 22-October-1843 place unknown, and died 04-May-1922 in Marion, Grant Co., IN. He married Susan Havens, daughter of Simon Havens and Nancy Pulley. She was born 26-April-1860, and died 07-March-1947 in Marion, Grant Co., IN. Children of Loton Scott and Susan Havens are: + 2 i. Minnie2 Scott, born 29-September-1880 in Marion, Grant Co., IN; died 06-December-1960 in Anderson, Madison Co., IN. + 3 ii. John Scott, born 04-April-1882; died 12-November-1967. 4 iii. Dorsey Fieldman Scott, born 15-December-1884 in Highland Co., Ohio; died 14-August-1953 in Marion, Grant Co., IN. + 5 iv. Molly Scott, born 04-November-1887 in Marion, Grant Co., IN; died 26-June-1962 in Marion, Grant Co., IN. 6 v. Leone Scott, born 14-April-1892; died 04-November-1983. She married Dr. Fred Wise. 7 vi. Alva Harold Scott, born 11-March-1897; died 06-December-1967 in CA. 8 vii. Jesse Clayton Scott, born 15-August-1901; died 26-January-1982 in Moline, IL. Generation No. 2 2. Minnie2 Scott (Loton1, WalterA) was born 29-September-1880 in Marion, Grant Co., IN, and died 06-December-1960 in Anderson, Madison Co., IN. She married Joseph Frank Eastes 01-January-1899 in Marion, Grant Co., IN, son of Lemuel Eastes and Rebecca Cunningham. He was born 09-May-1875 in Wisconsin, and died 27-January-1943 in Anderson, Madison Co., IN. Children of Minnie Scott and Joseph Eastes are: 9 i. LeRoy Sr.3 Eastes, born 30-September-1899 in Van Buren, Grant Co., IN; died 12-November-1973 in Gulfport, Harrison Co., MS. He married Mary Elizebeth Long 05-May-1920 in Marion, Grant Co., IN; born 17-June-1902 in Gas City, Grant Co., IN; died 19-March-1998 in Minneapolis (New Hope) MN. 10 ii. Esta Irene Eastes, born 27-January-1902 in Marion, Grant Co., IN; died 30-April-1992. She married James Benjamin Riley 28-February-1920 in Marion, Grant Co., IN; born 03-June-1895; died 04-January-1970 in Anderson, Madison Co., IN. 11 iii. Everett Loton Eastes, born 02-February-1905 in Gas City, Grant Co., IN; died 04-December-1976 in West Palm Beach, FL. He married Mildred Julia Long 21-April-1928 in Marion, Grant Co., IN; born 01-October-1909 in Marion, Grant Co., IN; died 27-April-1989 in West Palm Beach, FL. 12 iv. Cecil Eastes, born 10-September-1908 in Marion, Grant Co., IN; died 19-March-1986 in Anderson, Madison Co., IN. He married Mary Elizebeth Bowman 23-March-1935 in Anderson, Madison Co., IN; born 04-February-1916. 13 v. Dorothy Mae Eastes, born 08-April-1911 in Marion, Grant Co., IN; died 10-December-1991 in Anderson, Madison Co., IN. She married Daniel B. TIMMONS 09-September-1934 in Anderson, Madison Co., IN; born 03-July-1913 in Anderson, Madison Co., IN; died 23-January-1986 in Anderson, Madison Co., IN. 3. John2 Scott (Loton1, WalterA) was born 04-April-1882, and died 12-November-1967. He married Sadie. Children of John Scott and Sadie are: 14 i. Harry3 Scott. 15 ii. Glendale Scott. 16 iii. Lucille Scott. 17 iv. Joe Scott. 18 v. Irene Scott. 5. Molly2 Scott (Loton1, WalterA) was born 04-November-1887 in Marion, Grant Co., IN, and died 26-June-1962 in Marion, Grant Co., IN. She married Lawrence Fort. Child of Molly Scott and Lawrence Fort is: 19 i. Mary Louise3 Fort. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<END OF REPORT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If anyone has any information on the people in this line, please contact me! Best Regards to All - Roy Eastes Gulfport, MS <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< END >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we record our heritage we take great pride in looking at our list of ancestors and admire their origins, migrations and accomplishments. But, what good is it - unless it’s true? We need stories and rumors, they are great and often lead to the truth! BUT - Help eliminate errors. Don't take anything as Fact! Check references for validity! If we don’t our children’s children will be led down false trails and they will never be able to find their true heritage.

Hi everyone! I have had some letters about my Eastes/Webb connection so thought I would send it to the list and maybe someone else would also find an interest. Ruth Webb Eastes was my g-grandmother. Her is her line: Descendants of Johnathon Sr. Webb Generation No. 1 1. Johnathon Sr.1 Webb He married Rachel Lewis. Notes for Johnathon Sr. Webb: According to the book, The Lewis Family" by William G. Lewis, Johnathon Webb Sr was in the War of 1812. Children of Johnathon Webb and Rachel Lewis are: + 2 i. Johnathon Jr.2 Webb. 3 ii. Ruth Webb. She married Hugh Briston. 4 iii. Rachel Webb. She married John George. Generation No. 2 2. Johnathon Jr.2 Webb (Johnathon Sr.1) He married Francis Alley Stacey. Notes for Johnathon Jr. Webb: In the book, Lewis Family Pioneers of eastern Tennessee and IN Territory by William G. Lewis Published 1928, reprinted 1979 by Book Mark, Knightstown, IN (Copy in my Library) The author states: "Of my grandfather's sister I knew but little. One of them Rachel, married a man by the name of Jonathon Webb." "Records have been found of the families of three children of Jonathon and Rachel Lewis Webb as follows: Ruth married Hugh Brison Rachel Married John George Jonathon Jr. married Francis Alley Stacey Johnathon Webb Jr was among the first to pay taxes in Franklin Co., IN in 1811. He was taxed for owning 5 - horses. Notes for Francis Alley Stacey: Francis Alley married a man by the name of Stacey who died and left her with one daughter Mary. She then married Johnathon Webb,Jr and they had one daughter, Ruth Webb who was born in Rush Co., IN on 14 Nov 1819. Johnathon Webb, Jr also died in 1819.This made Francis a widow twice at 20 years of age. Then in 1927, Francis married Thomas Lakin and they had four children. They were Simon, Sarah, Caroline and James, all were born in Rush Co.,IN Child of Johnathon Webb and Francis Stacey is: 5 i. Ruth3 Webb, born 14-November-1819 in Rush Co., IN; died 08-April-1901 in Grant Co., IN. She married (1) Holman Eastes 22-December-1836 in Grant Co., IN; born 21-February-1817; died 27-February-1880 in Grant Co., IN. She married (2) Henry Shanehulser Aft. 27-February-1880. Notes for Ruth Webb: Ruth was born in Rush Co., IN and according to the book, The Lewis Family, Pioneers of Eastern TN and IN Terr. by William G. Lewis, Ruth's Father was Jonathon Webb Jr. implying that his Father was also Jonathon. More About Ruth Webb: Fact 1: IOOF Cem., Marion, Grant Co., IN More About Holman Eastes: Fact 1: IOOF Cem, Marion, IN <<<<<<<<<<<<<< END OF REPORT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tbhius is ALL the information I have min my files. If anyone has any more information on Ruth, her Father or his Father , I would appreciate hearing from you. Best Regards Roy Eastes Gulfport, MS When we record our heritage we take great pride in looking at our list of ancestors and admire their origins, migrations and accomplishments. But, what good is it - unless it’s true? We need stories and rumors, they are great and often lead to the truth! BUT - Help eliminate errors. Don't take anything as Fact! Check references for validity! If we don’t our children’s children will be led down false trails and they will never be able to find their true heritage.