Am forwarding this as I think it is important that we not only know, but voice our concerns & wants only then are we part of the American process that our kin struggled to build in thier & our "new country". Please read and pass along! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 8:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [WVMONONG] Cemetery Bill in WV Legislature Dear friends of WV genealogy and local history. This note is a bit political; but, I hope you will understand when you see how it affects what we as genealogists do. Two years ago I had a call from a man in Webster County asking me how he could get permission to visit his wife's grave. She was buried in a family cemetery on land that had formerly belonged to the family. Now the land was sold and the landowners were denying him access to the cemetery. I had to tell him that there was no law permitting him access, that the landowner was within his rights in denying access. Last year a family here in Lewis County ran afoul of the landowner when they tried to bury their mother in what was once a church cemetery. The land around the cemetery had been sold, the new property owner had built a new house across the access road and would not permit the hearse to carry the mother to her final resting place. The case did go to court, a ruling was made for the establishment of a new road (which has not yet been done), and the landowner claims that he doesn't have to permit the family access to visit their mother's grave. Recently, a son of the family, after giving the property owner two weeks notice, was met by a man with a gun when he tried to visit his mother's grave. I know of other similar cases as these scattered around the state. Last year a bill was introduced in the WV Senate that would have addressed these problems. The House did not pass the bill. A couple of weeks ago, the WV Senate passed SB 90 which, if adopted by the House or if combined with a bill from the House would be a step forward in permitting access to family or private cemeteries by cemetery plot owners, heirs of deceased persons, family members of deceased persons and persons interested in engaging in genealogy research for the purposes of visitation of the grave sites, maintenance of the grave site or cemetery or research. It would also create a cause of action for injunctive relief if a person is not permitted access to the cemetery, requires visitors to conduct themselves in a responsible manner and limits the use of motor vehicles when accessing the cemetery. Now the House has HB 4370 in committee. If it does not get out of committee and if it is not acted upon in the next couple of weeks, the bill will die and there will be no relief. You can read HB4370 in its entirety at: http://129.71.161.247/scripts/as_web.exe?hbills2000+D+7832961 You can read the committee version of SB 90 (the one that passed) at: http://129.71.161.247/scripts/as_web.exe?sbills2000+D+9151603 The genealogical and historical communities in West Virginia began acting in concert four years ago when we established History Day at the Legislature. Now is the time for us to get our act even more together and contact our delegates about the importance of this bill!!! The property rights activists are sending negative comments to the sponsors of this bill and others. Let us, West Virginia's genealogists, family researchers and historians, work together to preserve an important part of our history and gain access to our sacred grounds. If you live in West Virginia, please contact your delegate about this bill and getting it out of committee. Some of the people who can help us get this out of committee and hopefully get it approved are Delegates Rick Staten, Bob Ashley, Oscar Hines and the delegates who introduced the bill: Facemyer, Faircloth, L. White, Amores. If you live out of state and want to offer your comments, you can send them snail mail to any of the persons named in last paragraph. Address it to them at the WV House of Delegates, Capitol Building, Charleston, WV 25305 - or send to me via e-mail and I will print them out and take them with me to Charleston next Wednesday evening (for History Day on Thursday). For further information about the legislature you can visit http://www.LEGIS.state.wv.us Some friends and I are sending this to all the county-L lists here in WV. Please feel free to pass it on to others you know who are interested in West Virginia's cemeteries. Thanks for listening (er, reading), folks. 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Hi , I haven't heard from you for awhile or the list. Are you Okay? I remembered you hurt your back? Thelma

Gloria, Thanks for thinking of me. The date, 1922, and the red hair matches that of Robert Brown, Elwood, Indiana. He's my grandfather's nephew. I'm not yet familiar with Hazel Brown, but I am learning names as I progress. I would love to get the photos from the year book. Sounds like you took on a monumental job. I would greatly appreciate any help. Jerry N. Rice, Spring, Texas

Jerry - I'm not looking for the BROWN family but I just finished transcribing the senior class in three Elwood High School annuals, the Crescent, for 1922, 1923 and 1926. I found the following: 1922 - Brown, Donald Donald was the Literary Editor-In-Chief for the 1922 Crescent. He was also in the Glee Club and Class Play. He was the President of the Debating Club in 1922. His nickname was "Red". 1923 - Brown, Hazel Hazel was the Calendar Editor for the 1923 Crescent. 1926 - none If these are members of your BROWN family, and if you are interested I'll try to scan their senior pictures for you. Gloria

Hello from Dixie, My grandfather, William Fay BROWN was born June 11, 1895, Madison County, Elwood, Indiana. I am trying to locate his family, but have run into a barrel of BROWNs. Even more difficult is separating common family names in an effort to track a specific family. I'll throw out some more details and perhaps some kind person will help me solve my puzzle. William Fay Brown's father was Tom Brown. Tom married my great grandmother, Anna HORTON, May 2, 1894, Tipton Co., Indiana. Tom and Annie (her pet name) had three children, Bessie Lucille (called Lucille), William Fay and Ruth. William Fay Brown's birth certificate refers to him as "Male Infant Brown" born to Thomas S. and Anna (Horton) Brown. The same document states that Tom and Anna were both born in Indiana. I found a death certificate for a Thomas J. Brown, who died May 18, 1925, Terre Haute, Indiana. It said he was 55 years, one month and 6 days old. Born 1869? Notice the middle initial of the two Tom Browns. One is shown as "J" and the other as "S." Are they the same man? The death certificate states that Thomas J. Brown was buried at Elwood, Indiana, A. O. Gillis, funeral home director. My grandmother told me years ago that William Fay Brown had aunts and uncles on his father's side named: Minnie, Lizzie and Martin. That led me to conclude that a Thomas Brown I found in the 1880 Indiana census might be my family. This Thomas Brown is in the 1880 Soundex for Tipton Co., Cicero Township. Here's how that family looks on paper. Thomas Brown 40 Ky. Nancy 31 Ky. Willie 14 Ind. Thomas 12 Ind. Maggie L. 10 Ind. Ida M. 8 Ind. Minnie 6 Ind. Lizzie 4 Ind. Martin L. 2 Ind. However, there are several other Browns that fit the bill for my family. Any Browns out there looking for the same clan? Jerry Nathan Rice, Spring, Texas

Linda wrote this in Jan: > > Hi Tonya, > My ggggrandmother was Sarah Reeder, born about 1786 in > Virginia. She married Amos Freestone, who died in > Indiana in 1864. Their children were born in Ohio and > in Boone & Madison Counties in Indiana. I don't know if > that helps at all but unfortunately that is all I know > of the Reeder family. > An email correspondent shared this on Amos and Sarah: Descendants of Amos Freestone Generation No. 1 1. AMOS FREESTONE (JACOB1) was born 1782 in VA, and died in IN. He married SARAH ?. Notes for AMOS FREESTONE: Amos and Sarah Freestone had 13 kids, born in IN and OH. More About AMOS FREESTONE: Burial: Union Cemetery in Winnebago Co. Census 1: 1830, Henry Co, IN Census 2: 1840, Madison Co, IN Known children of AMOS FREESTONE and SARAH are: i. // FREESTONE, b. Bet. 1790 - 1800. ii. ZACHARIAH FREESTONE, b. 01 March 1818, Madison Co, IN; d. 22 April 1882, IA. Generation No. 2 2. ZACHARIAH FREESTONE was born 01 March 1818 in Madison Co, IN, and died 22 April 1882 in IA. He married MARIA MCCARTY 06 June 1839 in Clinton, OH. Notes for ZACHARIAH FREESTONE: Zachariah Freestone and Maria McCarty had 9 children. Child of ZACHARIAH FREESTONE and MARIA MCCARTY is: 3. i. WILLIAM HENRY FREESTONE, b. 13 August 1850, Winterset, Madison Co, IA. Generation No. 3 3. WILLIAM HENRY FREESTONE (ZACHARIAH3, AMOS2, JACOB1) was born 13 August 1850 in Winterset, Madison Co, IA. Child of WILLIAM HENRY FREESTONE is: i. DAISY FREESTONE. ___________________ I'm not related; posting the info to this list to help others! Cindy Kimes

Since this deals with my birth state I thought I would send this out to IN lists and maybe someone reading this qualifies or knows of a person that would be interested in this items. Was in the following newsletter. Subj: Missing Links, Vol. 5, No. 7 Date: 2/17/00 9:17:33 AM US Mountain Standard Time From: [email protected] (Julie Case) To: [email protected] SOMEBODY'S LINKS. Please send notices about genealogical treasures found to <[email protected]>. We have an old, black and gold leather bound with brass clasp, Bible that was given to our aunt, Leota Willis MADISON in Danforth, Illinois, about 1980. There are no identifying features in the Bible itself, however the following items were found inside: (1) a calling card with the name Mrs. Kate M. HENRY; (2) Marriage certificate for Marshall G. HENRY and Mary C. DRULEY dated 8 February 1865 and issued In Wayne County, Indiana. On the side of the certificate are the letters, in ink, M.R.I. page 77; (3) a handwritten, in pencil by Lillie HENRY, age 12, death notice for Wm. R. HENRY, 23 August 1879; (4) a newspaper death notice for Emma Locke BONEBRAKE, 2 March 1880; (5) a photograph of a woman with a lace bonnet but no identifying information; (6) several pieces of lace; (7) a piece of twig with a paper attached indicating it came from the old Elm where George WASHINGTON took command of the army and dated 12 July 1895; (8) and a piece of fern from LONGFELLOW's home in Boston also dated 12 July 1895. If you are related to any of the above named individuals or know of the family and would like to have these mementos and the Bible, please contact me. Alice Gutenkauf <[email protected]> Previously published by Julia M. Case and Myra Vanderpool Gormley, CG, Missing Links, Vol. 5, No. 7, 16 February 2000. RootsWeb: <http://www.rootsweb.com/>

As a followup to my email on "What relatives did the BROWN ancestors visit?" just rec'd the following from a Chamness researcher and now am wondering if the BROWN boys went to Alexandria to visit FREESTONE relatives! We've wondered about a possible connection to the FREESTONEs as there was a young male living with gggranpa in 1850. The young male was Joshua Freestone and in 1850, he was just 14 yrs. old. We've considered that he may have been related to the Browns, but haven't figured the connection. Now with a mention of Alexandria, it makes us more curious! Here's what the CHAMNESS researcher shared: > > Micajah Chamness - Zimri Hanson. Settled on Walnut Level > in Wayne Co. IN. Micajah is listed as a Pioneer of Indiana. A small > memorial monument attests to this at the site of his original cabin area. > This monument is a seven ton boulder placed about 100 feet east of State > Road #9 at the southeast edge of Alexandria. A bronze tablet bears the > following inscription: > > This Memorial marks the Log Cabin Home of Micajah Chamness, Sr., the > first settler in Monroe Township. > > Historical Events Occurring Here: > First Log Cabin Built 1821 > Christian Church Organized 1831 > Monroe Township Formed Jan 1836 > First Election Held, April 1836 > Alexandria Platted June, 1836 > Cindy Kimes

New to this list and been lurking. We're researching the BROWN surname! :-( Over the last 30+ years some of the older relatives have tried to learn who gggrandpa's parents were; they've had no success. Now with the help of the internet, some of the younger cousins are working on this again. Here's what we know: >From one of the cousins: > > Thomas Brown and Uncle Joe Brown hopped a train to Alexandria > around 1875 -1878. They were 13 to 16 years old at that time. > Uncle Joe is the son who listed Joshua was born in Henry Co on > his marriage application. > GGGrandpa, Joshua Brown, was born on 20 April 1817. [His obits list his birthplace as in Wayne Co, IN, not Henry Co.] He moved to Elkhart Co, IN ca 1840, married John Proctor's daughter, Mary, settling near the Proctor home in Washington Twp, Elkhart Co, IN. The PROCTORs spent time in Henry Co, but we've found no PROCTOR relatives that stayed in the Henry/Madison Co area. They moved to Elkhart Co, too. Consequently, we figure the cousins the boys went to visit had to be BROWN cousins. So WHO did they visit? There are several BROWN researchers listed on the Madison Co. GenWeb site - which ones lived around Alexandria ca 1878? Also found mention on the internet of a Brown Cemetery in Madison Co, Indiana. Where is that and where might one find more information on which Browns are buried there? The story passed down through the family is that gggrandpa was orphaned as a very young child, so we are having a very difficult time tracking our cousins and ancestors. Hope someone out there is able to provide some clues. Cindy Kimes

Cindy, My great grandfather was Tom Brown. His son, my grandfather, was William Fay Brown, born Elwood, Indiana, about 1894 (don't have my notes in front of me). Tom Brown died at Terre Haute, Indiana, and his body was shipped home to Elwood. I've not really delved into this part of my family because of the name BROWN. Just too many of them. But I would like to exchange some information. I'll dig up my stuff and put it on line. Jerry N. Rice, Spring, Texas

Can someone with access to an Anderson phone book, post the address for the Medical Examiner/Coroner's office? I want to check on a death that occurred in 1899 and hope they can access records. Thanks so much! Grace Smith/Michigan

Grace: You can write 2830 W. 8th Street, Anderson, IN 46011; Good luck!! Phyllis Leedom

Hi Kevin Several years ago I began my search for ancestors and have had reasonable success. What I find to be a very significant part of family research is the element relating how my ancestors may have migrated from the east coast into PA, OH, IL, and IN. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the overall aspect of the migration process. Eldon Davis

Hi Roy I do not share any ancestral names with you but do have several IN ancestors beginning about 1830 in Delaware, Wayne, and Madison Co. Mostly I just want to say thanks for sharing your info on the migration of people from the east coast into the interior of KY, OH, and IN. Eldon Davis

Hello listers, I wanted to let you what is happening in Madison Co., IN. for Feb. 2000. Alexandria Monroe Township Historical Society and Museum is having a Soup Luncheon : WHERE : Alexandria Historical Museum, 313 N. Harrison St. Alexandria, IN. DATE : Sat. Feb. 19 th. TIME : 10:30 am. to 2:30 pm. COST : $5 Adults * $3 (children 10 and under) TICKETS : Available at the door. INCLUDES : Vegetable and Chili Soup w/crackers, Vegetable Tray, Assorted Pies, Coffee-Tea or Soft Drink. TAKE OUT : AVAILABLE HANDICAP: ACCESSIBLE. Thank you for reading this and we hope to see you there. Should you have any other questions feel free to e-mail me [email protected] Marcie Davis (member : AMTHSM)

I really need to unsubscribe to this list as my mail is getting too much. It has been a wonderful list and I thank you all for your replies. If anyone has any new on Elijah Gardner d. 1867 in Mad. Co. just let me know at [email protected] Sue, hope to hear from you again and also Phyllis and others. Enjoyed the chat Phyllis - hope your back is much better. Anyone know anything about that Gardner manuscript of Mrs. Zook? Till later. Joan in Parke Co. In.

I am new to the list and am researching the surname Pentecost/Penticost. Would like to share info with anyone connected to this surname. Thanks, Debbie

Joan: If you will email me at the library I will check on the Gardner manuscript for you. I'm not sure about it at all. My email address at the library is - [email protected] I'll be back to work on Monday. Phyllis Leedom

You're obviously still a subscriber. I think we're just experiencing an unusual lull in this list's life. In fact, this list is the only one I'm subscribed to that HAS a life! 8) Aneice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia Brown" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [INMADISO-L] Fw: Don't let the WORD fool you . LOOK Phyllis ! > Am I still a subscriber or has everybody just stopped sending things thru this > list? There hasnt been anything for a couple of days now, just curious. > Cindy > > Marcie wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Marcie <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 11:32 PM > > Subject: RE: Don't let the WORD fool you . LOOK Phyllis ! > > > > >Hello listers, > > > > > >I just checked out a new genealogy Link site. Do not let the word 'virgin > > ' > > >fool you. > > > > > >This is ALL genealogy stuff and nothing else. Try it out. > > > > > >http://freespace.virgin.net/alan.tupman/sites/ > > > > > >Works great for all states. > > >Marcie in IN. :) Check it out at home Phyllis. :) > > >Thanks ! > > > > > > > > >

Walter: The reason Madison County has no marriage records before internet or anywhere is that the courthouse burned in Dec. 1880. All vital records that might have been kept were lost. Phyllis Leedom