Jane...... Have you checked the 1850 Census?....... There is a David K SMITH, Nancy wife and son William, Age 21 in the 1850 Vigo Co., IN Census, page 190-B....... Janet jdbee wrote: > HI, It's been a long time since I posted.. I still keep hoping someone knows > either family.. > David K Smith(17 Apr 1802) and Nancy Jane Hodges(1807) married in Lawrence > Co IND Dec 1825..; I have thier marriage bond and marriage rec from the > Indiana Atate Library. Does any one have a clue as to their folks. I have > David's will, that went through an Judge appointed adjucate,,,but I can not > prove his sons or his family.. and Nancy Jane,, seems to have appeared from > the dust.. I can find no connections at all. I know where they are buried > and ddeath dates, but there are no papers left fro these time periods, I am > told thru the Library in Vigo Co, IND. > This wall will break one day, I know it....It is my last wall to > having all my lines to the Immigrant... thanks janei > > Researching: Detweiler, Morgan, Tate, > Stipp, Niccum, Mosier,O'Neal, Culbertson, > Smith, Hodge and Clemens. > Also, Harling and Brockhausen

HI, It's been a long time since I posted.. I still keep hoping someone knows either family.. David K Smith(17 Apr 1802) and Nancy Jane Hodges(1807) married in Lawrence Co IND Dec 1825..; I have thier marriage bond and marriage rec from the Indiana Atate Library. Does any one have a clue as to their folks. I have David's will, that went through an Judge appointed adjucate,,,but I can not prove his sons or his family.. and Nancy Jane,, seems to have appeared from the dust.. I can find no connections at all. I know where they are buried and ddeath dates, but there are no papers left fro these time periods, I am told thru the Library in Vigo Co, IND. This wall will break one day, I know it....It is my last wall to having all my lines to the Immigrant... thanks janei Researching: Detweiler, Morgan, Tate, Stipp, Niccum, Mosier,O'Neal, Culbertson, Smith, Hodge and Clemens. Also, Harling and Brockhausen

Thanks to all of you who have sent replies that you received the Lewis books. I have just a few left - price $20.00 if mailed. Clarice H. Mitchell

I have a list (albeit an old one) of Lawrence County cemeteries and Rebecca Huffman or Rebecca Bowman does not show up in it. Sandi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pickett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 6:27 PM Subject: [INLAWREN] Hopkins Cemetery > Does anyone know if the Hopkins Cemetery, located > between Needmore and Oolitic, has been transcribed? > > I am trying to find the grave of Rebecca Huffman or > Rebecca Bowman. I believe her name is Bowman due to > a late marriage. She died after 1880. > > Thanks for any help, Karen > >

Does anyone know if the Hopkins Cemetery, located between Needmore and Oolitic, has been transcribed? I am trying to find the grave of Rebecca Huffman or Rebecca Bowman. I believe her name is Bowman due to a late marriage. She died after 1880. Thanks for any help, Karen

Thanks to all the list members who wrote and gave me tips. It jogged my mind to get out my Indiana Research Outline from the Family History Library. Well, I found a juicy tidbit in there about the census' which may be the answer to my dilemma. Quoting from the research outline-- "A few scattered fragments of 1853, 1856, 1857, 1877 and other county and state censuses are at the Indiana State Library." I am now thinking that maybe my cousin who found Samuel and Joseph Brazzell in Indiana (I can't find them anywhere!) maybe found them in these census records. I do know that she did a lot of research in Indiana in person. So perhaps my dilemma is solved--- but of course now is the problem to get to Indiana and check it out for myself. :) Has anyone ever looked at these fragments or are they indexed in a book? Karen

Ellen. Thanks so much. I really haven't check the formation dates on the counties-- guess I assumed that 1850 was a little late to be redistributing the boundaries of counties. But do remember changes like that in Ohio and even formation of new counties that late (I have been doing a lot of research in Ohio) I will check out your ideas. Thanks a lot! Karen

Dear Karen, Around here somewhere I have a list of IN counties, when they were established and from what other counties some of them broke. It came from the fromt of an IN census index book at the library; I don't remember which year, but I believe all of them have it. Check to see which counties the ones in question came from, as your time frame is early, around the time that alot of redistribution of boundaries was going on. Then check the surrounding counties, keeping in mind that not everyone on the census is also in the index. Hope this helps some. Ellen " I have checked the census indexes and cannot find a Joseph or Samuel Brazzle--- under any spelling.... I have even read the entire Green and Daviess Co. census line by line to try to find them. What am I missing? Are there any off year census' for Indiana-- like an 1855 or 1845? "

I have a dilemma that I can't seem to find an answer to, so am hoping someone out there might have a suggestion for me. I have been researching my Brazzle family on and off for a long time and about 25 years ago a 'cousin' sent me copies of her genealogy work in the form of a 5 page typewritten family tree. She was quite elderly and sick and we corresponded only a few times before I was unable to get any more answers. I assume she died. Now, my dilemma. In her research, she says that William Brazzle shows up in the 1830 census for Daviess Co and 1840 Green Co and the 1850 Green Co. His son Joshua is listed in all three census' also. She then says that "apparently 2 brothers joined them in 1850. The census lists Joseph Brazil and wife Hannah. with children Hannah and James. Also listed is Samuel Brazil and wife Nancy J. with children Morrison, Malinda, Rhoda, Delilah, Rose Ella and Nancy J." I have checked the census indexes and cannot find a Joseph or Samuel Brazzle--- under any spelling.... I have even read the entire Green and Daviess Co. census line by line to try to find them. What am I missing? She didn't make them up out of the air. She found them somewhere but for the life of me I can't find them. She was very thorough in her research and I have not found any discrepancies in her work so I must be overlooking something. Are there any off year census' for Indiana-- like an 1855 or 1845? Any suggestions would really be helpful, Karen

Thanks to Chris, Gilbert, Annette and others for helping to identify Cook's Park found in an old photo I have. Chris, the post card of the "Casino at Cooks Park" is the same buliding in my photo except that the lights are not apparent. I suppose what I thought was a lake was actually Pegion Creek. Now I need to indentify the young lady in the photo. Her name is written as Ethel Traylor and information on the back of the photo says she is 17 and it is dated as 1918. My family line of Traylors are from around Evansville and Indianapolis. No one in my family can identify who Ethel Traylor is or how she fits into our line. Some of my folks are in their 90s. I am sending this note to all the Indiana lists that I subscribe to in an attempt to find a connection. If you receive more then one copy of this communique please disregard all except one. Again, thanks to all those that have helped, Paul Traylor Milwaukee Wisconsin [email protected]

I have a picture of my great grandmother, Sarah Catherine (Pitman) Dorsett standing beside, a much younger,Ruth Esther Clark. The picture was taken at 406 East 15th Street in Bedford but only the names are on the back,no dates. I do know that Sarah Dorsett was born in 1844 and died in Bedford in 1931 so that does give some idea of the age of the picture. I am trying to find out if there is a family connection there between the two. I remember hearing the name of this Ruth several times growing up, but as with most things of interest to me now, I didn't ask when there were people around who knew the answers. I did ask a lot of questions about family information but this particular one I sure did miss. If anyone knows and could help I would appreciate the help. Thanks so much. Nancy Hostetler Amster [email protected]

George A. Moungie, born between 1877-1881 in Louisville, KY married Ida May Wilburn, born 1 Oct 1877 in Crawford, IN. They moved from Louisville, KY to Bedford, IN before 1900. They had at least one daughter, Thelma, born 24 Jun 1900. Thelma married Roy Gardner, born 3 Oct 1895 in IN, the son of Sam Gardner and Sarah Jackson Gardner, on 2 Jun 1919 in Clark Co, IN. At the time, all of the above were residents of Bedford. Ida Moungie died 1 Aug 1961 in Madison State Hospital. Her obituary did not list her husband or daughter as survivors, but listed two grandchildren and 3 great grandchildren. I have no idea when or where George or Thelma died. Are any of these people familiar to anyone. Thank you, Sandi Whitty Surnames: WHITTY WIMES WIMS WILEY WILLEY MOUNGIE MONGIE OATSON SPRAUER BOHANNON SANDERFER ROTTMAYER PALMER HELZIG GARDNER

I would like a copy of this book. My BOWMANS and PHIPPS were there. MY Bowmans are buried in Crane. Mildred J Rebennack 8208 Bentley Farms Pl. Indianapolis, Ind. 46259 [email protected]

At 12:28 PM 10/29/00 -0500, you wrote: >Copies of the book "Memoirs of Crane Naval Weapons Support Center And the Surrounding Areas Prior to the Naval Installation" by Ermel Lewis are now available. Contact me for information. > >[email protected] >I Clarice, It's Debby Roush again. Can you tell me a little about this book sense it has some of the Speer surname in it? How mush is the cost of this book. Thank You Debby

Copies of the book "Memoirs of Crane Naval Weapons Support Center And the Surrounding Areas Prior to the Naval Installation" by Ermel Lewis are now available. Contact me for information. [email protected]

At 11:41 AM 10/25/00 -0400, you wrote: >Very interested in the book on Martin Cty before Crane Naval. >Our Edmondsons were there in 1824 until Crane booted them out! >Please reserve a copy. >John Carr son of May Edmondson Carr >----- Original Message ----- >From: clarice mitchell <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 8:55 AM >Subject: [INLAWREN] Book > >Could you give me some of the Spear names that are in this book? I'm looking for Charles an his son Arthur Speer. Thank you for any help you can give me. Debby Roush ([email protected]) >> The reprint of the book "Memoirs of Crane Naval Weapons Support Center and >Surrounding Areas Prior To The Naval Installation" by Ermel Lewis are all >sold. This book is about living and growing up in the area before the >government bought the land in Martin County, IN. Family group sheets are >included for the Adkins, Collins, Crane, Crooke, Dillon, Fish, Garrett, Gee, >Hatfield, Hitchcock, Inman, Kelsey, Kenady, Kirkman, Lewis, Price, Roach, >Rollins, Roberts, Sargent, Shoemaker, Simpson, Sims, Sipes, Skeen, Spear, >and Waggoner families. Some pedigree charts and lots of pictures are >included. >> More copies will soon be available. For more information and to reserve a >copy contact: >> Clarice H. Mitchell >> >> >

Found a cemetery listing for Bethany Cemetery in Dunklin Co., MO that listed the following Grindstaffs. Could they be related to the Grindstaff' of Lawrence Co.? From ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/mo/dunklin/cemeteries/bethany1.txt GRINDSTAFF Thelma 03-21-1925 04-13-1992 GRINDSTAFF Loyd 01-22-1921 03-01-1994 * GRINDSTAFF Effie 02-09-1879 12-02-1965 GRINDSTAFF John H. 11-04-1870 05-12-1941 GRINDSTAFF infant 09-27-1942 08-24-1943 GRINDSTAFF infant 09-27-1942 08-27-1943 GRINDSTAFF Clinton 01-17-1918 11-21-1980 GRINDSTAFF Hursel 12-27-1897 06-10-1973 GRINDSTAFF Mary Inez HAYNES 01-25-1906 GRINDSTAFF Nola 01-22-1904 01-09-1974 GRINDSTAFF Velma 02-16-1917 GRINDSTAFF William P. 12-13-1899

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brandt/index.html I have finally uploaded some of my Brazzle info. I will add more as time permits. Related families are: Carpenter, Benham, Lamar, Street, Singleton, Boettcher, Huffman, Hannah and more. Not all the info is online yet. Please email me if you have more to add. Karen Brief info on my family: Joshua Brazzle, Jr.(born 1842 in Greene Co, IN) married Sarah Jane Gano and when she died, he married her sister, Rachel Gano-- daughters of Robert Gano and Phebe Newland Gano. Joshua's children are: Robert, John, Mary Ann, Susan, Rhodabell, Liza, Phoebe, Sara, Elizabeth, William, Fanny, Rosetta, Rosanna, Marg, and Phillip.He lived near Hollenberg, KS from about 1880 . His father's name was Joshua Brazzle, Sr. He died in Harrison Co, Missouri in 1858. Mother's name was Nancy Quillen Brazzle. Joshua Brazzle, Sr. parents are believed to be William and Sarah Brazzle from Greene Co. Indiana, but I haven't been able to prove this. Also, Joshua Sr. brothers are believed to be: Joseph, Samuel and William. Anyone out there researching these Brazzle's? Other spellings thru the years are: Brazil, Brassel, Brassle, Brazle,etc. Thanks, Karen

Very interested in the book on Martin Cty before Crane Naval. Our Edmondsons were there in 1824 until Crane booted them out! Please reserve a copy. John Carr son of May Edmondson Carr ----- Original Message ----- From: clarice mitchell <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 8:55 AM Subject: [INLAWREN] Book > The reprint of the book "Memoirs of Crane Naval Weapons Support Center and Surrounding Areas Prior To The Naval Installation" by Ermel Lewis are all sold. This book is about living and growing up in the area before the government bought the land in Martin County, IN. Family group sheets are included for the Adkins, Collins, Crane, Crooke, Dillon, Fish, Garrett, Gee, Hatfield, Hitchcock, Inman, Kelsey, Kenady, Kirkman, Lewis, Price, Roach, Rollins, Roberts, Sargent, Shoemaker, Simpson, Sims, Sipes, Skeen, Spear, and Waggoner families. Some pedigree charts and lots of pictures are included. > More copies will soon be available. For more information and to reserve a copy contact: > Clarice H. Mitchell > >

Is there anyone who could look up 3 obituaries for me? I will gladly pay for time and expenses. I've been unsuccessful in my attempts to get these copies from the Library or Newspaper. Thanks G. Swoik IL