good morning list members: several layers of filters are in place to catch and hold messages that contain commercial advertising, scam letters, SPAM and similar invasive messages. try as hard as we do, there is always one or two messages that make it through to the list. what better way to reach a large group of people with so little effort? yesterday one such message got through to one of the lists in my care. it was a scam letter offering to share millins of dollars being held in an african country. (i'm told that many letters such as this may actually have been written by prison inmates.) please know that this list will never knowingly subject you to any advertising, never ask that you identify yourselves, never ask for any means oof identification, etc. if you receive such a message, delete it immediately. if you have any doubts at all as to the legitimacy of a message, contact me ASAP. thanks, sorry for the interruption. everyone in now free to return to our mutual real work. find great joy in your work! allen murray

Mary Lou, I don't find a John Dougherty (or any other variation of that spelling) in the Lawrence Co. 1850 census who is the right age to be the one you're looking for. The only John listed there is 13 years old, living in 38-year-old James T. Daughtery's household in Indian Creek Twp. Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: Morgan To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 2:02 PM Subject: [INLAWREN] Lookup on 1850 census I am searching for John Thomas Dougherty b. abt. 1823 wife Catherrine Children Jonathan S. , Ida Virginia, and Ann Elizabeth Thanking you so much Mary Lou

I am searching for John Thomas Dougherty b. abt. 1823 wife Catherrine Children Jonathan S. , Ida Virginia, and Ann Elizabeth Thanking you so much Mary Lou

Hello, Listers, Is there anyone on the list who can check for an obit for me, or point me to the appropriate library or other source? HILL, Clara b. 02 Aug 1872 d. January 1968 (don't know exact date) Last residence: Bedford, IN 47421 Information regarding husb, kids, survivors, etc. Thanks much! Gayle Haffner Michigan

Historical Society to close archives 2003-01-23 By The Associated Press The Oklahoma Historical Society will close its archives, research library and newspaper reading room next month to save money and consolidate its research facilities. A statewide budget shortfall has resulted in the loss of $1.7 million in revenue to the Historical Society over the past year, executive director Bob Blackburn said. Budget problems have forced a 20 percent reduction in staff positions plus eight furlough days for staff members. Blackburn said the society had planned to consolidate its research facilities at the new Oklahoma History Center, scheduled to open in 2004. "We have had to accelerate that plan to meet budget problems and therefore fewer staff positions," he said. The reading rooms will be closed on Feb. 1 and will reopen March 1. When the research facilities reopen, visitors will go to one reference desk to use all materials, Blackburn said. The society was founded in 1893 by the Oklahoma Press Association to collect newspapers printed in the state. The society now has more than 30 million individual pages of newspapers, representing more than 4,000 titles and 95 percent of all the newspapers ever printed in Oklahoma.

Nancy, You may already have this info, but just in case. There was an Oscar F. Lotshaw that married a Susan Peterman on May 12, 1873 in Dearborn County, Indiana. An ancestral file that I saw on the Family search site lists Henry Peterman and Cynthia Ann Taylor as her parents. Following is the 1880 census info for them. <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_6359314_0&frompage=99">Oscar LOTSHAW</A> Self M Male W 26 IN Common Laborer IN IN <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_6359314_1&frompage=99">Susanna LOTSHAW</A> Wife M Female W 22 IN Keeping House IN PA <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_6359314_2&frompage=99">William LOTSHAW</A> Son S Male W 6 IN IN IN <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_6359314_3&frompage=99">John LOTSHAW</A> Son S Male W 3 IN IN IN <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_6359314_4&frompage=99">Frank LOTSHAW</A> Son S Male W 1 IN IN IN Source Information: Census Place Johnson, Ripley, Indiana Family History Library Film <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*%2C180%2C0&filmno=1254307">1254307</A> NA Film Number T9-0307 Page Number 443D Hope this helps. Kathy

will someone please volunteer to work with this lady.. your help would be sincerely appreciated. allen From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Lawrence Co. Lookup Volunteer Rebecca, I think I had written you before but I will write you again in hopes that you can help. I'm trying to find anything on my Great Grandmother Susan Ann or Susanna "Peterman"  "Lotshaw"  Cherry. She was born 7-4-1857 I'm told in Bedford, IN., Lawrence County.  I don't know her parents name.  Can't find anything on her. She died 9-11-1904 in Indianapolis, or Shelbyville, IN. She first married Oscar F. Lotshaw and then married William Cherry. My Grandfather William Fred Cherry was their son.  Born 12-2-1897. I have a great picture of her taken in an Indianapois studio around about 1897 that you could post to your site should you want it. Please, If you can find anything on her or her family in Lawrence County, Please let me know.  If you should not find anything on her or the family, then I will know that I was told wrong and can move on.  Please Help me. Thank You, Nancy "Vance" Glover [email protected]

Kevin; I just came across your kind offer to lok up a name on the Andersonville Prison list. Samuel Toliver (Tolliver) was in the 53 IN Volinteers, Co K. He was captured somewhere in TN and was released when Sherman captured the camp. I have had trouble finding any record of him in prison. John Toliver On Sun, 4 Aug 2002 20:31:05 -0400 "Kevin Frye" <[email protected]> writes: > For those new to the roots web and those of you veterans I would like > to say > that there are many folks who subscribe that are willing to do what > they > can to help others in their research. > > I, myself do Volunteer research at Andersonville Civil War Prison > in > Andersonville Georgia. There are Any research I do is absolutely at > NO cost > and I am willing to do what I can. There are 1743 prisoners of war > on record > from the state of Indiana and about 700 who died here, I thought I > would > send my offer. I also do the research for any prisoners from any > state that > were here. > Here are my sources of research. > I do not know how I got over the hill without getting to the top ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

Indiana Marrige records from Indiana State Library http://www.statelib.lib.in.us/www/indiana/genealogy/mirr.html RAYMOND FELIX R HUME MARGARET Washington Co, IN 11-22-1831 ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 9:20 AM Subject: [INLAWREN] FELIX RAYMOND - Shawswick Twp -1850 > Hello -- > > This is my first time to post to this list. I am researching the family of > FELIX RAYMOND, born 1805 in Indiana. He married MARGARET ?? and is listed as > a tavern keeper in the 1850 Indiana Federal Census with 6 children and 8 > boarders. > > The youngest son, PERRY H. RAYMOND, married EDNA DAIRY (Derry, Deary) in > Oregon and had two daughters, ETHEL and MYRA, who later moved to California. > > EDNA DAIRY (Derry, Deary) ties into my husband's family line. > > Thanks for any help! > > Joan Brown Derry > [email protected] > >

Hello -- This is my first time to post to this list. I am researching the family of FELIX RAYMOND, born 1805 in Indiana. He married MARGARET ?? and is listed as a tavern keeper in the 1850 Indiana Federal Census with 6 children and 8 boarders. The youngest son, PERRY H. RAYMOND, married EDNA DAIRY (Derry, Deary) in Oregon and had two daughters, ETHEL and MYRA, who later moved to California. EDNA DAIRY (Derry, Deary) ties into my husband's family line. Thanks for any help! Joan Brown Derry [email protected]

fowarding message received from [email protected] SRYGLEY GEORGE MILLER BUNCH FISHER    Thanks, Deborah George

The following is a copy of a letter that has connections to many Lawrence Co. surnames. I donot know at this time where the original is located. This letter was carried to Illinois by Solomon Fender. It was written to James Toliver and his wife Elizabeth Maxwell then living in McClain Co IL. It is dated Sept 21, 1844. "Dear brother and sister, We take this opportunity to inform you that through the miracle and blessings of God, we and the friends are generally well and hope that these lines may find you enjoying good health. There has been some sickness in the country but not fatal, we canot recollect any deaths. Times are pretty hard, though the "Whigs" say better times are coming, they and the "Democrats" too, are having barbacues through the towns and the country, every day or two. Our wheat crops were very indifferent and the Fly are about to eat up what we have saved. Oats were very good. We have 20 stacks each stack containing 100 dox. (Not sure what a dox is) Corn crops are middling good. We sold this summer the rise of 400 bushels of corn. I live at the same place I did when you were here and I own 443 acres of land up and down the valley. Your mother is living sis, and enjoying good health, she says she would like to see you once more as she is old, she thnks that you might come, it is not so far. She remembers her love to you and family. There have been several weddings among your connection. Rebecca Toliver married a gentleman by the name of Sterling Williams, Isom Toliver married Miss Phebe Way, Susan Toliver married Alexander Maxwell, Charles Workman married Matthew Fielder's widow. Rebecca Isom married a gentleman by the name of Lewis Morgan, Mahala Workman is expecting to marry a gentleman by the name of Henry Rawyer, the third of next month. There were two deaths that we had forgotten and thought likely you had never heard of them. Old father Edwards died the 28th of last March, two years ago. Nathaniel Brewer died last April, two years ago. And Elizabeth Brewer and family are doing well and send her respects to you and your family. Eli Way and Thursey send their love and respects to you and family. We have nothing more of importants to write excepting we have six hearthy children, four boys and two girls, William, Isom, Robert, and Nancy and Thursey are their names. Thursey is three years old and sucks yet. We shall now bring our letters to a close by wishing to be remembered by you and all inquiring friends, so no more, but we hope to remain your affectionate brother and sister until death. Signed, Richard Hall and Mahala (Toliver) Hall...from Lawrence Con IND Nathaniel Brewer married Elizabeth Toliver, d/o of Charles Toliver and Susan Edwards. I am interested in all the surnames in the letter because of their connections to the Edwards. I am also intersted in the Workman name as that is another name in my ancestery. I am some information on many of these mentioned. Leon

my apologies. i just tried to send the "burma shave" message to the person listed just above lawrence co. in my address book. what a way to get off to a new start! anyway, mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. allen p.s. thank god it was a clean message and is kinda cute. adm

Theresa, do you know if we are cousins? My gggrandfather was John Weddell who married Jane Gaither. They were the parents of my ggrandmother Alice Weddell who married Henry A. Dorsett in Martin Co 22 Dec 1882.The Dorsett family came from Chatham Co, NC. Henry's descent would be Henry>Francis>Francis>Solomon. Any cousins out there? I have to say, I've been a member of this list for a very short time but this one message is about the most interesting one I've encountered in any of my other lists , some of which I've belonged to for several years. I can't wait to see what's coming next! Socialism movement in Indiana! But why should I be surprised? Eugene Debs was from Terre Haute, wasn't he? Now that IS interesting. (I majored in political science...think "science', not "politicians") So, as it turns out,he study of my own family's history leads to many other avenues of learning. I am looking forward to exploring the genealogy of the area with all of you. "Pooolside in Hawaii"

Welcome to the list as our new List Master. It seems that we have a few things in common. I also still own half of the old "homestead", southwest of Mitchell. My name is Toliver and I am related to the Finger, Burton families, If I can prove it. We must be related in some way. John On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 22:01:30 EST [email protected] writes: > hello everyone: > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

Since the deaths occurred in Mitchell, I would suggest that you contact the Mitchell Community Public Library. They should have an index to obituaries in that time frame that were published by the Mitchell paper. They have the paper on microfilm. Contact them at [email protected] Bill Strahle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theresa/Bob Weddell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 6:39 AM Subject: [INLAWREN] 3 obits and socialism > Hi list, > > First, where is St. Croix, Indiana? > > This is long but it has to be for clarity.; > > I need 3 obit's, or any articles concerning the death's of; > # 1, John Henry Knight (His widow, referred to John Henry Knight as "John". I guess records could also show J.H.Knight. I have found out that this John Henry Knight also had an uncle with the exact name.) > born Feb. 3, 1869 in Indiana > died Dec. 24, 1908 (I think in Mitchell, Indiana since that is where the family lived) > There may be a news article about him because the family story handed down was; "The Catholics killed him." I never got an explanation as to why Catholics would have killed him. > A neice of the widow said John Henry Knight was killed at a "turkey shoot". "It was pretty easy to murder someone at one of these and call it an accident." is what the neice told me. > > #2,Robert Knight > born 1881 > died Feb. 4, 1914 > > I have a photograph of 2 men and one has an arrow pointing to him with the note; > #3,Charles Hickman > killed Dec. 24, 1908 (Same death date as John Henry Knight) > Killed at the Leheigh Quarries, Mitchell, Indiana. > Any articles about an accident or mysterious killing/death? > An obit anyhwhere? > Any articles about the Lehigh Quarries? Who ownes them? Any labor problems written about in the newspapers? > > > I find it very unusual that John Henry Knight is killed on the same day as Charles Hickman, a friend of his. > The other item having to do with death of John Henry Knight, Re: socialism in Indiana; > I have another item that no one seems to know anything about and I am getting the feeling no one wants to talk about this! Strange no one on the lists knows anything about socialism in Indiana during this time. I had to call Colorado to get info. > In reference to the death of John Henry Knight this organization sent a condolence letter to John Henry Knight's brother, Robert Knight; Here it is; > The letterhead reads; > Centered on paper; > "Appeal to Reason" > Girard, Kansas > A SOCIALIST PAPER > J.A. Wayland > Fred D. Warren, Managing Editor > > The top left of the letterhead reads; > > "For the Common Ownership > of All the Means of Produc- > tion and Distribution of the > Wealth of the World" > > just under the above is a seal that reads; > > "UNION LABEL" > with "Girard" under > the words "Union Label" > and > _ _ POGRAPHICAL (2 spaces, I can't make out the 2 letters) > above the words Union label > > Top right of letterhead reads; > > Coming Nation Established April 30, 1893 > Appeal to Reason Established August 31. 1895 > Total Number "Appeals" Printed- > 1901---------8,175,388 copies > 1906--------17,814,681 copies > 1907--------24,016,100 copies > > Total papers printed by the Appeal since 1895 > Over 100,000,000 copies > > [my note, these numbers seem to me to be awfully inflated for the times! All of the above #'s were millions!] > > The letter reads; > > Feb. 20, 1909 > Robert Knight > St. Croix, Ind. > Dear Comrade:-- > Your favor of the 12th inst., with accompanying resolutions passed by your local on the death of your brother Henry has been received and carefully read. The death of your brother was most brutal and shocking and all the more lamentable because of his earnestness and activity in the Socialist movement. > > It is difficult to offer advice in such tragic situation. I can imagine your grief and horror and with all my heart I sympathize with you, but no advice, however well intended or fittingly expressed, can avail against your lacerated feelings. I confess that I am not prepared to say what I might do in a similar situation. > > You suggest that a reward should be offered for the apprehension of the murderer, whom you say is an ex-convict. I can see no good in such a course, even if successful. You say the local authorities connived at the murderer's escape. In that case it is quite probable that they would also assist him to escape punishment and that his trial would be a farce and add mockery to tragedy. If the authorities favored him once they will most likely do so again. > > Besides, the imprisonment, or even the hanging of this ex-convict, the most that could be hoped for, would not bring back your brother and even as vengeance would afford little if any satisfaction. > > Many men have been marked and have paid the penalty of their lives for their convictions. Such men do not require their deaths to be avenged nor their memories to be vindicated. The cause they died to serve is made more sacred by their consecration, and its progress and ultimate victory is their vindication and glory. > > With full appreciation of your brother's fidelity to the cause and a heart full of sympathy with you and your family in your great bereavement, I am, > Yours fraternally, > > The signature looks like; > > E. T. Dibss (The surname doesn't look right to me when typed) > > "The cause they died to serve" that gives me a clue that John Henry Knight was murdered and his death has something to do with the socialist party movement. > > > I called The Colorado Archives because when I found the condolence letter I tried to research Wayland and where he fled to in Colorado because John Henry Knight's brother, Robert Knight, went to Colorado after John Henry Knight's murder! I was trying to find out what had become of Robert Knight. > > An article on Julius Wayland on the web that tells he was born in Versailles, Indiana on 26 April 1854. It tells his early history of poverty. He apprenticed at newspapers as a printer and typesetter. By 1872 Wayland had saved enough money to become a part owner of the "Versailles Gazette. Two years later he became its sole proprietor and eventually turned it into a highly profitable newspaper. He converted to socialism after reading books such as "The Cooperative Commonwealth" by Laurence Gronlund and "Looking Backward" by Edward Bellamy. > When J.A. (Julius) Wayland expressed these views in his newspaper he so upset the conservatives in the town that a mob put a rope around his neck and talked about lynching him. > > After this incident Wayland decided to move to Pueblo, Colorado. The web article goes on and on. I got to the site by using "Google" it took me to; > http://web311.pavilion.net/USAwaylandJ.htm > > I called Colorado Archives and had quite a conversation with the librarian there about the Soialist movement there in the early 1900s. He said there was a strong socialist movement in Colorado at that time. There was a labor incident, I have forgotten what the librarian called it but it was "The ------- Massacre". He said hundreds of women and children were killed in the confrontation. > I called Colorado because Wayland left Indiana to go there AND John Henry Knight's brother, Robert Knight left Indiana and went to Colorado also! I have notes from Robert Knight's sister-in-law (the widow) that Robert Knight returned to Indiana a few years later and he died in Indiana. Robert Knight born 1881 and died Feb. 4, 1914 (after 1914 there is a note "July" so it may mean he was born in July). Widow of John Henry Knight clearly wrote the death date as Feb. 4, 1914 for Robert Knight. > > Can anyone tell me anything about this organization that would have had to do with the town of Mitchell, Indiana or St. Croix, Indiana? Who were officers? Where were their meetings held? Were the meetings secret? Probably since the people were so against socialism. > I would like to have any names associated with this group locally if they are available or any other details. > > Any info is appreciated. If you can't come up with any articles or info, could you give me a tip of where to look for the information? > > I have sent a very similar but more detailed query to Charlotte Sellers at the Jackson County Public Library at the suggestion of a list subscriber. > > Thanks so much, > Theresa Weddell > [email protected] > Austin, Texas > >

In response to Theresa Weddell's query about socialism in Indiana: There is much written about it, easily available at your local library or through interlibrary loan. Eugene V. Debs, arguably the most influential Socialist of the time (and a perennial presidential candidate), was from Terre Haute and his papers are preserved in a special collection housed in the Indiana State University Library in Terre Haute. In addition, they have reels and reels of microfilmed newspaper articles relating to socialism dating from the late 1800s through the 1940s. If there were an incident at a mine in Mitchell that (I infer from your description) involved a clash between members of the Socialist party and opponents and which resulted in death, those newspaper articles would probably include an account. It sounds like something that would have been such big news back then that it may have even been reported by nationwide newspapers such as the New York Times, something that you can easily check at the Austin or UT library. As well, there are numerous mainstream bios of Debs that include info on the history of socialism that you, again, can obtain locally. I am curious about your statement that this is something "no one" seems to want to talk about. I've been a member of this list for several years now and have no recollection of any earlier post by you for information about socialism in Indiana. Eugene V. Debs is an important figure in our state (and national) history, so much so that his boyhood home has been carefully preserved in Terre Haute and the University has seen fit to collect any and all facts and artifacts relating to his life and work PLUS hold symposia on the subject. There IS a lot of info out there, Theresa. Keep digging! Susan Wever Cates Researching Lawrence County families: Wever, Butler, Crawford, Speer, McDade, Ferguson, Johns(t)on, Carr and others

Dear INLAWREN-Listers: At 03:39 AM 1/10/2003 -0800, Teresa wrote: >Hi list, >... > >The signature looks like; > >E. T. Dibss (The surname doesn't look right to me when typed) >... Teresa's document seems to have been signed by the Socialist leader Eugene V. Debs. There is a web site dedicated to preserving his memory at <http://www.eugenevdebs.com/>. If you click on "personal history" there, you'll see a lengthy biography of Debs which includes the following: "1907-1912—Named Associate Editor of the Appeal to Reason published in Girard, Kan. He was paid the then fabulous salary of $100 per week. The weekly magazine achieved a circulation of several hundred thousand due to the powerful writing of Debs..." It would seem that Mr. Knight was heavily involved in the Socialist movement, whose existence often provoked violence and controversy. You should be able to find out more about that movement by following up some of the links on the Debs site. Chuck Carey Anaheim, CA

St. Croix,IN was a village in Perry County. - founded in 1855 Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theresa/Bob Weddell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 6:39 AM Subject: [INLAWREN] 3 obits and socialism > Hi list, > > First, where is St. Croix, Indiana? > > This is long but it has to be for clarity.; > > I need 3 obit's, or any articles concerning the death's of; > # 1, John Henry Knight (His widow, referred to John Henry Knight as "John". I guess records could also show J.H.Knight. I have found out that this John Henry Knight also had an uncle with the exact name.) > born Feb. 3, 1869 in Indiana > died Dec. 24, 1908 (I think in Mitchell, Indiana since that is where the family lived) > There may be a news article about him because the family story handed down was; "The Catholics killed him." I never got an explanation as to why Catholics would have killed him. > A neice of the widow said John Henry Knight was killed at a "turkey shoot". "It was pretty easy to murder someone at one of these and call it an accident." is what the neice told me. > > #2,Robert Knight > born 1881 > died Feb. 4, 1914 > > I have a photograph of 2 men and one has an arrow pointing to him with the note; > #3,Charles Hickman > killed Dec. 24, 1908 (Same death date as John Henry Knight) > Killed at the Leheigh Quarries, Mitchell, Indiana. > Any articles about an accident or mysterious killing/death? > An obit anyhwhere? > Any articles about the Lehigh Quarries? Who ownes them? Any labor problems written about in the newspapers? > > > I find it very unusual that John Henry Knight is killed on the same day as Charles Hickman, a friend of his. > The other item having to do with death of John Henry Knight, Re: socialism in Indiana; > I have another item that no one seems to know anything about and I am getting the feeling no one wants to talk about this! Strange no one on the lists knows anything about socialism in Indiana during this time. I had to call Colorado to get info. > In reference to the death of John Henry Knight this organization sent a condolence letter to John Henry Knight's brother, Robert Knight; Here it is; > The letterhead reads; > Centered on paper; > "Appeal to Reason" > Girard, Kansas > A SOCIALIST PAPER > J.A. Wayland > Fred D. Warren, Managing Editor > > The top left of the letterhead reads; > > "For the Common Ownership > of All the Means of Produc- > tion and Distribution of the > Wealth of the World" > > just under the above is a seal that reads; > > "UNION LABEL" > with "Girard" under > the words "Union Label" > and > _ _ POGRAPHICAL (2 spaces, I can't make out the 2 letters) > above the words Union label > > Top right of letterhead reads; > > Coming Nation Established April 30, 1893 > Appeal to Reason Established August 31. 1895 > Total Number "Appeals" Printed- > 1901---------8,175,388 copies > 1906--------17,814,681 copies > 1907--------24,016,100 copies > > Total papers printed by the Appeal since 1895 > Over 100,000,000 copies > > [my note, these numbers seem to me to be awfully inflated for the times! All of the above #'s were millions!] > > The letter reads; > > Feb. 20, 1909 > Robert Knight > St. Croix, Ind. > Dear Comrade:-- > Your favor of the 12th inst., with accompanying resolutions passed by your local on the death of your brother Henry has been received and carefully read. The death of your brother was most brutal and shocking and all the more lamentable because of his earnestness and activity in the Socialist movement. > > It is difficult to offer advice in such tragic situation. I can imagine your grief and horror and with all my heart I sympathize with you, but no advice, however well intended or fittingly expressed, can avail against your lacerated feelings. I confess that I am not prepared to say what I might do in a similar situation. > > You suggest that a reward should be offered for the apprehension of the murderer, whom you say is an ex-convict. I can see no good in such a course, even if successful. You say the local authorities connived at the murderer's escape. In that case it is quite probable that they would also assist him to escape punishment and that his trial would be a farce and add mockery to tragedy. If the authorities favored him once they will most likely do so again. > > Besides, the imprisonment, or even the hanging of this ex-convict, the most that could be hoped for, would not bring back your brother and even as vengeance would afford little if any satisfaction. > > Many men have been marked and have paid the penalty of their lives for their convictions. Such men do not require their deaths to be avenged nor their memories to be vindicated. The cause they died to serve is made more sacred by their consecration, and its progress and ultimate victory is their vindication and glory. > > With full appreciation of your brother's fidelity to the cause and a heart full of sympathy with you and your family in your great bereavement, I am, > Yours fraternally, > > The signature looks like; > > E. T. Dibss (The surname doesn't look right to me when typed) > > "The cause they died to serve" that gives me a clue that John Henry Knight was murdered and his death has something to do with the socialist party movement. > > > I called The Colorado Archives because when I found the condolence letter I tried to research Wayland and where he fled to in Colorado because John Henry Knight's brother, Robert Knight, went to Colorado after John Henry Knight's murder! I was trying to find out what had become of Robert Knight. > > An article on Julius Wayland on the web that tells he was born in Versailles, Indiana on 26 April 1854. It tells his early history of poverty. He apprenticed at newspapers as a printer and typesetter. By 1872 Wayland had saved enough money to become a part owner of the "Versailles Gazette. Two years later he became its sole proprietor and eventually turned it into a highly profitable newspaper. He converted to socialism after reading books such as "The Cooperative Commonwealth" by Laurence Gronlund and "Looking Backward" by Edward Bellamy. > When J.A. (Julius) Wayland expressed these views in his newspaper he so upset the conservatives in the town that a mob put a rope around his neck and talked about lynching him. > > After this incident Wayland decided to move to Pueblo, Colorado. The web article goes on and on. I got to the site by using "Google" it took me to; > http://web311.pavilion.net/USAwaylandJ.htm > > I called Colorado Archives and had quite a conversation with the librarian there about the Soialist movement there in the early 1900s. He said there was a strong socialist movement in Colorado at that time. There was a labor incident, I have forgotten what the librarian called it but it was "The ------- Massacre". He said hundreds of women and children were killed in the confrontation. > I called Colorado because Wayland left Indiana to go there AND John Henry Knight's brother, Robert Knight left Indiana and went to Colorado also! I have notes from Robert Knight's sister-in-law (the widow) that Robert Knight returned to Indiana a few years later and he died in Indiana. Robert Knight born 1881 and died Feb. 4, 1914 (after 1914 there is a note "July" so it may mean he was born in July). Widow of John Henry Knight clearly wrote the death date as Feb. 4, 1914 for Robert Knight. > > Can anyone tell me anything about this organization that would have had to do with the town of Mitchell, Indiana or St. Croix, Indiana? Who were officers? Where were their meetings held? Were the meetings secret? Probably since the people were so against socialism. > I would like to have any names associated with this group locally if they are available or any other details. > > Any info is appreciated. If you can't come up with any articles or info, could you give me a tip of where to look for the information? > > I have sent a very similar but more detailed query to Charlotte Sellers at the Jackson County Public Library at the suggestion of a list subscriber. > > Thanks so much, > Theresa Weddell > [email protected] > Austin, Texas > >

Hi list, First, where is St. Croix, Indiana? This is long but it has to be for clarity.; I need 3 obit's, or any articles concerning the death's of; # 1, John Henry Knight (His widow, referred to John Henry Knight as "John". I guess records could also show J.H.Knight. I have found out that this John Henry Knight also had an uncle with the exact name.) born Feb. 3, 1869 in Indiana died Dec. 24, 1908 (I think in Mitchell, Indiana since that is where the family lived) There may be a news article about him because the family story handed down was; "The Catholics killed him." I never got an explanation as to why Catholics would have killed him. A neice of the widow said John Henry Knight was killed at a "turkey shoot". "It was pretty easy to murder someone at one of these and call it an accident." is what the neice told me. #2,Robert Knight born 1881 died Feb. 4, 1914 I have a photograph of 2 men and one has an arrow pointing to him with the note; #3,Charles Hickman killed Dec. 24, 1908 (Same death date as John Henry Knight) Killed at the Leheigh Quarries, Mitchell, Indiana. Any articles about an accident or mysterious killing/death? An obit anyhwhere? Any articles about the Lehigh Quarries? Who ownes them? Any labor problems written about in the newspapers? I find it very unusual that John Henry Knight is killed on the same day as Charles Hickman, a friend of his. The other item having to do with death of John Henry Knight, Re: socialism in Indiana; I have another item that no one seems to know anything about and I am getting the feeling no one wants to talk about this! Strange no one on the lists knows anything about socialism in Indiana during this time. I had to call Colorado to get info. In reference to the death of John Henry Knight this organization sent a condolence letter to John Henry Knight's brother, Robert Knight; Here it is; The letterhead reads; Centered on paper; "Appeal to Reason" Girard, Kansas A SOCIALIST PAPER J.A. Wayland Fred D. Warren, Managing Editor The top left of the letterhead reads; "For the Common Ownership of All the Means of Produc- tion and Distribution of the Wealth of the World" just under the above is a seal that reads; "UNION LABEL" with "Girard" under the words "Union Label" and _ _ POGRAPHICAL (2 spaces, I can't make out the 2 letters) above the words Union label Top right of letterhead reads; Coming Nation Established April 30, 1893 Appeal to Reason Established August 31. 1895 Total Number "Appeals" Printed- 1901---------8,175,388 copies 1906--------17,814,681 copies 1907--------24,016,100 copies Total papers printed by the Appeal since 1895 Over 100,000,000 copies [my note, these numbers seem to me to be awfully inflated for the times! All of the above #'s were millions!] The letter reads; Feb. 20, 1909 Robert Knight St. Croix, Ind. Dear Comrade:-- Your favor of the 12th inst., with accompanying resolutions passed by your local on the death of your brother Henry has been received and carefully read. The death of your brother was most brutal and shocking and all the more lamentable because of his earnestness and activity in the Socialist movement. It is difficult to offer advice in such tragic situation. I can imagine your grief and horror and with all my heart I sympathize with you, but no advice, however well intended or fittingly expressed, can avail against your lacerated feelings. I confess that I am not prepared to say what I might do in a similar situation. You suggest that a reward should be offered for the apprehension of the murderer, whom you say is an ex-convict. I can see no good in such a course, even if successful. You say the local authorities connived at the murderer's escape. In that case it is quite probable that they would also assist him to escape punishment and that his trial would be a farce and add mockery to tragedy. If the authorities favored him once they will most likely do so again. Besides, the imprisonment, or even the hanging of this ex-convict, the most that could be hoped for, would not bring back your brother and even as vengeance would afford little if any satisfaction. Many men have been marked and have paid the penalty of their lives for their convictions. Such men do not require their deaths to be avenged nor their memories to be vindicated. The cause they died to serve is made more sacred by their consecration, and its progress and ultimate victory is their vindication and glory. With full appreciation of your brother's fidelity to the cause and a heart full of sympathy with you and your family in your great bereavement, I am, Yours fraternally, The signature looks like; E. T. Dibss (The surname doesn't look right to me when typed) "The cause they died to serve" that gives me a clue that John Henry Knight was murdered and his death has something to do with the socialist party movement. I called The Colorado Archives because when I found the condolence letter I tried to research Wayland and where he fled to in Colorado because John Henry Knight's brother, Robert Knight, went to Colorado after John Henry Knight's murder! I was trying to find out what had become of Robert Knight. An article on Julius Wayland on the web that tells he was born in Versailles, Indiana on 26 April 1854. It tells his early history of poverty. He apprenticed at newspapers as a printer and typesetter. By 1872 Wayland had saved enough money to become a part owner of the "Versailles Gazette. Two years later he became its sole proprietor and eventually turned it into a highly profitable newspaper. He converted to socialism after reading books such as "The Cooperative Commonwealth" by Laurence Gronlund and "Looking Backward" by Edward Bellamy. When J.A. (Julius) Wayland expressed these views in his newspaper he so upset the conservatives in the town that a mob put a rope around his neck and talked about lynching him. After this incident Wayland decided to move to Pueblo, Colorado. The web article goes on and on. I got to the site by using "Google" it took me to; http://web311.pavilion.net/USAwaylandJ.htm I called Colorado Archives and had quite a conversation with the librarian there about the Soialist movement there in the early 1900s. He said there was a strong socialist movement in Colorado at that time. There was a labor incident, I have forgotten what the librarian called it but it was "The ------- Massacre". He said hundreds of women and children were killed in the confrontation. I called Colorado because Wayland left Indiana to go there AND John Henry Knight's brother, Robert Knight left Indiana and went to Colorado also! I have notes from Robert Knight's sister-in-law (the widow) that Robert Knight returned to Indiana a few years later and he died in Indiana. Robert Knight born 1881 and died Feb. 4, 1914 (after 1914 there is a note "July" so it may mean he was born in July). Widow of John Henry Knight clearly wrote the death date as Feb. 4, 1914 for Robert Knight. Can anyone tell me anything about this organization that would have had to do with the town of Mitchell, Indiana or St. Croix, Indiana? Who were officers? Where were their meetings held? Were the meetings secret? Probably since the people were so against socialism. I would like to have any names associated with this group locally if they are available or any other details. Any info is appreciated. If you can't come up with any articles or info, could you give me a tip of where to look for the information? I have sent a very similar but more detailed query to Charlotte Sellers at the Jackson County Public Library at the suggestion of a list subscriber. Thanks so much, Theresa Weddell [email protected] Austin, Texas