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    1. [Fwd: [NISHNAWBE-L] Genealogist Humor.......]
    2. Ron & Maggie Sieber
    3. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------97C59D88160FB24B93D06D8D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought this was worth passing on .................... RJS --------------97C59D88160FB24B93D06D8D Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <NISHNAWBE-L-request@rootsweb.com> Delivered-To: rmsieber@ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net Received: (qmail 23214 invoked by uid 0); 14 Nov 1998 15:12:57 -0000 Received: from mail2.uswest.net (204.147.80.18) by ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 14 Nov 1998 15:12:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 1732 invoked by alias); 14 Nov 1998 15:12:55 -0000 Delivered-To: rmsieber@uswest.net Received: (qmail 1722 invoked by uid 0); 14 Nov 1998 15:12:54 -0000 Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (207.113.245.30) by mail2.uswest.net with SMTP; 14 Nov 1998 15:12:54 -0000 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA07249; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 07:12:13 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 07:12:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <364D9D3D.48BA@voyager.net> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 10:09:49 -0500 From: Betty Kienitz <bettyk90@voyager.net> Reply-To: bettyk90@voyager.net Organization: Fr/Ca/Nat Am Genealogist, writer, wife, grandmom & retired from MI state Indian Affairs Commission. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: Nishnawbe-L@rootsweb.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [NISHNAWBE-L] Genealogist Humor....... Resent-Message-ID: <"q7hSEB.A.-wB.M3ZT2"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/175 X-Loop: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: NISHNAWBE-L-request@rootsweb.com X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Humor only genealogists can appreciate: ============================= My family coat of arms ties at the back....is that normal? My family tree is a few branches short! Help appreciated My ancestors must be in a witness protection program! Shake your family tree and watch the nuts fall! My hobby is genealogy, and I raise dust bunnies as pets. How can one ancestor cause so much TROUBLE?? I looked into my family tree and found out I was a sap.. I'm not stuck, I'm ancestrally challenged I'm searching for myself; Have you seen me ? If only people came with pull-down menus and on-line help... Isn't genealogy fun? The answer to one problems, leads to two more! It's 1998. Do you know where your-Great-G. Grandparents are? A family reunion is an effective form of birth control A family tree can wither if nobody tends it's roots A new cousin a day keeps the boredom away After 30 days, unclaimed ancestors will be adopted Am I the only person up my tree-seems like it Any family tree produces some lemons, nuts & a few bad apples Ever find an ancestor HANGING from the family tree? FLOOR: The place for storing your priceless genealogy records. Gene-Allergy-It's a contagious disease, but I love it Genealogists are time unravelers Genealogy is like Hide & Seek: They Hide & I Seek! Genealogy: Tracing yourself back to better people "Crazy" is a relative term in my family A miser is hard to live with, but makes a fine ancestor I want to find ALL of them! So far I only have a few thousand I Should have asked them BEFORE they died! I think my ancestors had several "Bad heir" days I'm always late. My ancestors arrived on the JUNEflower Only a Genealogist regards a step backwards, as progress Share your knowledge, it is a way to achieve immortality Heredity:Everyone believes in it until their children act like fools! It's a poor family that hath neither a Lady of the evening or a thief. Many a family tree needs trimming. Shh! Be very, very quiet.... I'm hunting forebears. Snobs talk as if they had begotten their own ancestors! That's strange: half my ancestors are WOMEN! I'm not sick, I've just got fading genes Genealogists live in the past lane Genealogists do it generation after generation.... Cousins marrying cousins: Very tangled roots! Cousins marrying cousins: A non-branching family tree Alright! Everybody out of the gene pool! Do I hear the rattle of Chains? Always willing to share my ignorance.... Documentation...The hardest part of genealogy For a reply, send a self-abused, stomped elephant to... Genealogy: Chasing your own tale! Genealogy-will I ever find time to mow the lawn again? That's the problem with the gene pool: NO Lifeguards I looked up my family tree...there were two dogs using it. I researched my family tree......apparently I don't exist! SO MANY ANCESTORS...........................SO LITTLE TIME! ==== NISHNAWBE Mailing List ==== To contact listowner send message to vwilson577@aol.com --------------97C59D88160FB24B93D06D8D--

    11/14/1998 09:19:24
    1. Elliott Family/LaGrange County, IN
    2. This information was taken, by my mother, from the Elliott Family Bible or occurred during either her or my lifetime. 1.William Elliott + Sarah Kinkaid (assumed from naming pattern) 2...William Elliott, b: 1-1-1788 (or 12/31/1787), d: 7-11-1865 m: 11-1-1821 +Jane Sanderson, b: 4-3-1791 (or 5-3-1791), d: 10-14-1863 3.....James Sanderson Elliott, b:5-7-1830, d: 10-1-1917 3.....Sarah Kinkaid Elliott, b: 1-1-1823, d: 4-28-1884 3.....Infant Son Elliott, b: 2-28-1825, d: 2-28-1825 3.....Jane Lytle Elliott, b: 12-2-1826, d: 5-12-1895 3.....William W. Elliott, b: 9-17-1828 (or1827) Richland Cty, OH, d: 10-27-1893 m1. 4-17-1851, m2. 1-28-1886 +Mary Ann Sattison (Setison), B: 4-29-1828 Huron City, OH, d: 7-28-1885 +(Mrs.) Jane Archer 4.......David Alexander Elliott, b: 3-7-1852, d: 11-22-1870 4.......Harvey Elliott, b: 7-2 or 12-1854, d: 6-2-1871 4.......Mary Amanda Elliott, b: 4-4-1857, d: 5-3-1935 +William Routsong 4.......Katy (Kate) Elliott, b: 12-7-1864, d: 7-12-1918 +Herman Balk +Isaac Van Ormant +Edward Lewallen 4.......James Elliott, b: 3-15-1869, d: 10-7-1945, LaGrange County, IN m: 12-24-1890 +Lillie Mae Gage, b: 2-2-1872 near Fish Lake, LaGrange County, IN, d: 12-1-1950 LaGrange County, IN 5.........William Verne Elliott, b: 10-31-1891, d: 4-19-1972 m: 10-11-1919 +Audra McKenzie, b: 9-20-1895 5.........Beryl Elaine Elliott, b: 9-10-1893 LaGrange County, IN, d: 5-4-1980 Howe, LaGrange County, IN, m: 10-18-1912 LaGrange County, IN +Orie Allen Libey, b: 3-26-1889 Allen County, IN, d: 8-28-1962 LaGrange, IN 5.........Esther Vere Elliott, b: 3-18-1896, d: 2-20-1978 m: 6-17-1920 +Maynard Myers, b: 8-31-1898 5.........Frank Elliott, b: 12-28-1898 LaGrange County, IN, d: 4-27-1982 LaGrange County, IN m: 3-1-1924 +Beatrice Ann Bertram, b: 9-4-1906 Detroit, Mich., d: 11-19-1997 5.........Hilda Arlena Elliott, b: 6-3-1901, d: 11-24-1950 m: 1-24-1920 +Dane Hamilton, b: 6-24-1901, d: 7-14-1948 5.........Margaret Vivian Elliott, b: 1-23-1908, d: 10-3-1984 m: 3-1-1926 +Herman Smith, b: 5-21-1903, d: 2-2-1960 4.......Ida Elliott, b: 2-18-1871, d: 9-11-1897 +William Bolley 4.......Infant Son Elliott, b: 2-23-1873 Like all of us, I'd welcome corrections or additions. Thank you in advance, Stacie Libey Bisnath

    11/11/1998 04:46:25
    1. Re: INLAGRAN-D Digest V98 #6
    2. Kerry Bruns/Judy Fabry
    3. I'm Judy Sackett Fabry, researching the SACKETT, RAMSBY, NEFF families who lived in Lagrange and Noble Counties at least as early as 1850. The SACKETTs and RAMSBYs lived in Eden Twp. I'm having trouble locating the NEFFs, though. Does anyone have any information about any of these families?

    11/08/1998 06:56:33
    1. Moak, Hagerty
    2. I am still looking for anyone doing research on the Moak (Mook, Moke, etc.) and Hagerty names in the LaGrange Co. Indiana and White Pigeon Michigan areas. Jan Skinner gumpysfarm@aol.com

    11/08/1998 11:43:14
    1. RYASON/RYERSON/CARNEY/SCOTT
    2. Ron & Maggie Sieber
    3. Hello LaGrange County Lister's, My name is Ron Sieber, and I am interested in corresponding and trading information with others interested in: RYASON/RYERSON, John, b. 1801, Issac, James, Samuel. Spelled his name Ryason, m. twice. John Ryason, son of John Ryason, was born in Wheeling, W. Va., Mar. 18, 1801, and d. Oct 13, 1878. Resided first in Pennsylvania, then in Ohio and later settled in what is now La Grange, Ind., with his brothers, Issac, James and Samuel. They were pioneers in that section. His brothers did not remain in La Grange. Two of them settled in Illinois. He m., first, Charlotte Carney, and had by her sixteen children, seven of whom were born in Ohio. Children by the first wife were: (The Ryerson Genealogy 1916 by Albert Winslow Ryerson) JOHN JR.6 RYASON (JOHN SR.5 RYERSON, LUYCKES (LUCAS)4, JORIS (GEORGE)3, MARTEN2 REYERSZEN, REYER1 ELBERTSEN) was born 18 March 1801 in Wheeling, West Virginia, and died 13 October 1878 in LaGrange County, Indiana. He married CHARLOTTE CARNEY Abt. 1824 in Pickaway, Ohio, daughter of JOHN CARNEY and ELIZABETH. Children of JOHN RYASON and CHARLOTTE CARNEY are: i. SAMUEL (DIED YOUNG)7 RYASON. ii. JAMES RYASON, b. 1819-1824, Ohio, (Pickaway Co.?); d. 14 February 1901, LaGrange, Indiana; m. NANCY MACDONALD, 31 July 1848, Randolph Co., Indiana (Source: CD# 228 Indiana Marriages, Randolph Co., From 1819 to 1850Ryason, JamesMcDonnah, Nancy). iii. WASHINGTON RYASON, b. Abt. 1825, Ohio, Pickaway Co.?); m. REBECCA GARRELL, 14 January 1849, Lagrange Co., Indiana (Source: CD# 228 Indiana Marriages, Lagrange Co., From 1832 to 1850). iv. WORTHINGTON RYASON, b. Abt. 1825, Ohio, (Pickaway Co.?) (1850 Michigan Census); d. 1855-1856, California?; m. MARTHA ANN BRACKNEY. v. ELIZABETH RYASON, b. Abt. 1827, of La Grange, Indiana; m. DAVID SMITH, 27 February 1847, La Grange County, Indiana. vi. SARAH RYASON, b. Abt. 1827; m. JOHN HIVELY, 22 January 1846, Lagrange Co., Indiana (Source: CD# 228 Indiana Marriages, Lagrange Co., >From 1832 to 1850). vii. JOHN RYASON, b. Abt. 1834, Ohio, (Pickaway Co.?); m. (1) ANNA M. CASE; m. (2) BARBARA AULMAN, 12 November 1853, Lagrange Co., Indiana (Source: Lagrange Co. marriage index, film # 6087830). viii. WILLIAM RYASON, b. October 1834, Ohio, (Pickaway Co.?); m. (1) LYDIA RUNNELLS; m. (2) MARY J. TUTTLE, Abt. 1885. ix. CHARLOTTE RYASON, b. 17 March 1837, Indiana; m. BENJAMIN BAUMGARTNER, 8 April 1860, La Grange County, Indiana (Source: Lagrange Co. marriage index, film # 6087830). x. ALMIRA RYASON, b. 20 October 1839, La Grange, Indiana; m. (1) WILLIAM BARROWS; m. (2) SAMUEL EIMAN, 24 September 1863, Lagrange Co., Indiana. xi. SAMUEL RYASON, b. 23 May 1843, LaGrange County, Indiana; d. 1 February 1920, Bellingham, Whatcom County, Washington; m. SARAH MARGARET SCOTT, 4 February 1866, LaGrange Co., Indiana. xii. JENNY (JANE) RYASON, b. Abt. 1849, Lagrange Co., Indiana; m. (1) MARTIN HOGMEYER; m. (2) CHARLES KENNEDY. CARNEY, John, b. abt 1779, Charlotte, Shedrick. John Carney, born abt 1779, Pennsylvania, removed to Ohio, and later LaGrange County, Indiana. One of his chideren, Charlotte Carney m. John Ryason abt 1824, probably in Pickaway Co., Ohio. Another child, Shedrick Carney b abt 1810, m. 11 Nov 1844 Helen Dadey b. abt 1826. 1830 U.S. Census, Indiana, Fairfield Co., Violet twp., p. 262, film # 337941. 1840 U.S. Census, Indiana, Lagrange Co., Bloomfield twp., p.167, line 5, film # 7727. SCOTT, Sinclare/Sinclair/St Clar/StClair, David. Sinclair Scott was b. abt 1812 in Ohio, and removed to LaGrange County abt 1837 where he held a land patent. SINCLARE OR ST CLAR OR STCLAIR1 SCOTT was born Abt. 27 August 1812 in Ohio. He married CATHARINE MYERS 18 October 1835 in Marion, Ohio. 1. Children of SINCLARE SCOTT and CATHARINE MYERS are: i. MARY J.2 SCOTT, b. Abt. 1837, Ohio; m. IRVIN DAVIS, 25 April 1858, Lagrange Co., Indiana. ii. JOHN L. SCOTT, b. Abt. 1839, Indiana. iii. WILLIAM S. SCOTT, b. Abt. 1840, Indiana; m. REBECCA A DEMPSEY, 28 September 1866, Lagrange Co., Indiana. iv. MARTHA E. SCOTT, b. Abt. 1841, Indiana. v. GEORGE H. SCOTT, b. Abt. 1843, Indiana. vi. SUSAN ELIZABETH SCOTT, b. Abt. 1844, Indiana; m. JOSEPH D. SELBY, 3 February 1842, Lagrange Co., Indiana. vii. SARAH MARGARET SCOTT, b. 27 October 1845, La Grange Co., Indiana; d. 31 July 1917, Nooksack, Whatcom County, Washington; m. SAMUEL RYASON, 4 February 1866, LaGrange Co., Indiana. viii. JOEL SCOTT, b. Abt. 1848, Indiana. ix. CATHERINE SCOTT, b. Abt. 1849, Indiana; m. CHARLES SMITH, 30 May 1869, Lagrange Co., Indiana. 2. DAVID1 SCOTT was born Abt. 1816 in Ohio. He married MARIA Abt. 1844. Children of DAVID SCOTT and MARIA are: i. LAURA2 SCOTT, b. Abt. 1845. ii. WINFIELD SCOTT, b. 1849-1850. Ron Sieber 940 Gerleon Drive S.E. Salem, Oregon (yes Toto, we are a long way from Kansas) 97302-2113 503-378-1045

    11/07/1998 04:24:36
    1. Surnames: CHAPIN, BATES, MERRICK, SHOUP, KELLY
    2. Rinke
    3. Hello, I noticed the messages about a lack of traffic on this list. I just recently joined this list and thought I would post my LaGrange Co. surnames. I'll post more information later, but if anyone is researching these names I'm willing to share any information I have. Kathy

    11/07/1998 02:14:52
    1. Re: LaGrange Co. names
    2. karin smith
    3. I don't have any of these names in my research, but just wanted to share the same concern Peg has. It appears this listing is new, so we might have to wait a while. I've posted a query last month, but this is the first "traffic" e-mail I've received. Hope more will subscribe. Karin On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Doug and Peg Adams wrote: > Hi, > > I recently subscribed to this list but have not seen any traffic! ?? > > Perhaps this will help. I have several families in this county (which is > where my Dad was born). Does anyone connect with these names: LONG, MACHAN, > ATWATER, PRESTON > > I will be happy to share. > > > Peg Adams > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3052/ Adams Home Page > Researching: ADAMS, ATWATER, BERGEY, CODY, CRAVEN, CUSTER, DECKER, > EBERHARD, FRENCH, GONSER, HACKENBERG, HAINES, HARBSTER, HENRICKS, KEEFER, > KENESTRICK, LOGAN, LONG, MACHAN, McCLEAN, PARKER, PRESTON, ROW, SCHMIDT > > http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Alley/5802/ Home page for the River Bend > Chapter of Sweet Adelines, International >

    11/07/1998 10:12:30
    1. LaGrange Co. names
    2. Doug and Peg Adams
    3. Hi, I recently subscribed to this list but have not seen any traffic! ?? Perhaps this will help. I have several families in this county (which is where my Dad was born). Does anyone connect with these names: LONG, MACHAN, ATWATER, PRESTON I will be happy to share. Peg Adams http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3052/ Adams Home Page Researching: ADAMS, ATWATER, BERGEY, CODY, CRAVEN, CUSTER, DECKER, EBERHARD, FRENCH, GONSER, HACKENBERG, HAINES, HARBSTER, HENRICKS, KEEFER, KENESTRICK, LOGAN, LONG, MACHAN, McCLEAN, PARKER, PRESTON, ROW, SCHMIDT http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Alley/5802/ Home page for the River Bend Chapter of Sweet Adelines, International

    11/06/1998 08:35:20
    1. Sanger & Dolittle
    2. karin smith
    3. Can anyone help with the following problem I have? Celia Smith Sanger, born 28 April 1815, Perry, Genesee Co., NY, married Charles Dolittle (date and place unknown, and I have no further info about him). The couple lived in LaGrange County, Indiana, because they are buried in Ontario. Date of death for both is unknown and neither do I know the name of the cemetery. Their children were: Alvin DeForrest, Rebecca P., Leander, and Rosa Ladd. I have no birthdates or any other info about them. Celia had a sister: Mercy Euphrasia Sanger, born 17 Sept 1824, Perry, NY. She never married and I do not know when she died, but she, too, is buried in Ontario. I'd like to get more info about this family and would appreciate any help. Also, would like to contact anyone researching Sanger families in northern Indiana and southern Michigan. I have info on several other Sangers who are buried in a cemetery near Middlebury, Indiana. Also have info about their parents and would be happy to share. Thank you! Karin Smith karinsm@efn.org

    10/29/1998 10:17:39
    1. Gindlesperger Family History Association
    2. Julie and Mike Burnette
    3. I am a board member of the newly created Gindlesperger Family History Association (please see the news release that follows). If you'd like more information about membership, please let me know. Julie Matthews Burnette -------------------------- News Release - For Immediate Release October 25, 1998 JAMESTOWN, PA - In anticipation of the 250th anniversary of the arrival in America of the family's immigrant ancestor, the Gindlesperger Family History Association, Inc. was incorporated in Pennsylvania on August 27, 1998. The Gindlesperger Family History Association, Inc. (GFHA) was established to encourage, coordinate, compile, and publish the results of research into the history, traditions, and lore of the family. A family reunion at one or more locations is being planned for late summer, 1999, in celebration of the 250th anniversary of the family in America. The immigrant ancestor, Ulrich Gindlesperger, arrived in Philadelphia aboard the Phoenix on September 15, 1749, from Rotterdam. He settled first in Bern Township, Berks County, PA. An Amish-Mennonite probably originally from Switzerland, Ulrich had four children: Catherine, Jacob, Albrecht, and a daughter whose first name is not yet known. Before he died in 1783, Ulrich, his children, and grandchildren migrated to Stoneycreek and Quemahoning Townships, Somerset County, PA. Some members of the next generations migrated to Ohio, Indiana, and Ontario, Canada. Ulrich’s descendants migrated and lived in close association with other families bearing such early Amish-Mennonite surnames as Good, Hooley, Kauffman, Miller, Zuck, Yoder, and others. The Gindlesperger surname has been spelled in literally dozens of ways over the past 250 years, including Gindlesberger, Kindlesperger, Jinglespiker, and Inglesbrighter. “If you have a surname even remotely close to ‘Gindlesperger,’ you’re likely to be a cousin,” said Rev. Norman L. Gindlesperger, GFHA President. “One of the most interesting things about the establishment of the Gindlesperger Family History Association is that the founding members met over the Internet. Although we are cousins, we have not yet met in person. This is one of the reasons we look forward to celebrating the family’s 250th anniversary in America—the reunion will give us a chance to meet each other and many other Gindlesperger cousins as well,” said Rev. Gindlesperger. Drawing on the members’ Internet expertise, the GFHA will soon launch a comprehensive website that provides a large database of Gindlesperger genealogy. “To date, we’ve found over 3,000 direct descendants of Ulrich Gindlesperger. One of our goals is to provide free access to this great research; we want other people to have as much fun exploring their ancestry as we do,” Rev. Gindlesperger said. The incorporators and initial board members are: the Rev. Norman L. Gindlesperger, Baldwin, L.I., NY, President; James L. Gindlesperger, Johnstown, PA, Vice President; Julie Matthews Burnette, Germantown, MD, Secretary; G. James Gindlesberger, Alva, OK, Treasurer; and Virginia Gage Firks, Fort Wayne, IN. Additional information is available at the address below or from the above officers, respectively, at the following email addresses: normanlg@idt.com; jimgind@alvant.alva.ok.us; jg57@andrew.cmu.edu; and julie-mike@erols.com. The GFHA is inviting Charter Memberships at $15.00 per year for individuals and families until the time of celebration in 1999. Membership dues may be sent to G. James Gindlesperger, 815 12th Street, Alva, OK 73717.

    10/26/1998 05:59:54
    1. Welcome
    2. Deborah K Murray
    3. Hi! I'm Deb Murray, Lagrange county coordinator for INGenWeb and the owner of this mailing list. I requested the mailing list a couple of weeks ago and then promptly forgot to subscribe myself so I apologize to those who have posted messages, I've missed them. I'd like to welcome those of you who have subscribed to the Lagrange County, Ind. mailing list. The purpose of this list is to get researchers for Lagrange County together so they can help each other in their family search. Please feel free to post your queries, questions, family information, etc. here. If you'd like to search old messages for this county (although for a while there won't be many, but hopefully they'll add up quickly) go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Put INLAGRAN-L under the list name and when the second screen comes up and asks for your query put in the family name or whatever you are searching for. Please let other Lagrange researchers know about the list and encourage them to subscribe. As the list grows you may want to repost your queries periodically so new subscribers can see them. I'm also hoping we'll be able to help each other answer questions about where to find Lagrange County information. If I can do anything to help any of you please don't hesitate to ask. Deb Murray 100 Maintenance Center Notre Dame, IN 46556

    10/23/1998 12:29:23
    1. Louis Kester
    2. Nora Borts
    3. Seeking information on Louis Kester. Need information on his daughter's Susan (Mrs. Silas McQuiston) and Rachel (Mrs. Henry Boarts). Any information will be appreciated. Nora borts@gte.net

    10/20/1998 08:16:52
    1. SUTER/SUTTTER FAMILY
    2. Dennis Buerge
    3. Greetings to all of you from Indianapolis, IN I am looking for information on the family of an ancestor, Margaret Suter/Sutter; she was born about 1815, married John S Miller, all in LaGrange County. She was orphaned when very young. I would very much like to have information on her birth parents, siblings, the family that raised her; I would also like to know if Suter/Sutter was her birth name, or the name of the family that raised her. John S Miller was Amish or Mennonite, but I don't know about Margaret. Any inflormation you can provide will be greatly appreciated. HAVE ROOTS, WILL DIG Dennis Buerge

    10/15/1998 08:25:02