This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Hi.2ADE/1093.1.1 Message Board Post: Patti, Thank you for the information. Do you know what happened to John? Is he son or brother to Patrick? My Wilford was b. 1838 - 1840.Indiana. His place of residence in 1861 was Vernon, In. A posting I seen by Ronald Boyd has him listed in the 1860 census with John 58 OH and Mehetabel 56 Kentucky. and siblings: John B. or D. 22 in, Samantha 18 in, Menerva 14 Indiana. And Wilfred 20 Indiana. The Willie M. 16 you speak of in the 1880 census must be a relative for Wilford named his 1st. son William nickname "Willie E. M. Farran"born 1866 In. His 2nd son (our family) is Charles Maurice Farran b. 1870 Indiana. They moved to Mo. and were listed in the 1870 Butler Co. census.