This is embarrassing!!!! Through several previous messages I have tried to convey to you on the Denney and Jay County Rootsweb Forums my correct url to view Samuel Denny's GEDCOMS. I had thought it was all settled as I heard nothing more on problems until yesterday. It turns out that even my last posting was incorrect for the "FAMILIES" page where the GEDCOMS are located, I had misspelled families as "FAMLIES" and that of course would not work. The correct url is: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Lake/7853/denney/Families.html My mind evidently wanders some so please bear with me <G> Richard Denney