This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gh.2ADI/1721.1.1.1 Message Board Post: That is correct Fred did own a used car dealer ship for years in Huntington. I do know that Fred and Mary were married on 7/8/1933 in Bluffton Indiana. Fred was born July 03, 1914 and dead on October 08, 1981 in Huntington, I do not know were he was born. Mary was born February 25, 1914 in Huntington, she was number 10 of 13 children, she dead January 02, 2000 in Huntington. They had 5 children, James and John were twins, Larry came next and was killed in a car accident ( don't remember the year ). I do remember it was in August because my family was on our way down to Huntington for the Shively family reunion. Donna was next and than Robert. Donna passed away June 17, 1993 in Huntington, she was married to ? Guhl.