This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: GROVE Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ci.2ADE/2800.1 Message Board Post: Attached is another obituary for John Carlos GROVE from THE BLOOMFIELD DEMOCRAT. The birth year was 1909 according to this article which corresponds with the age given in both obituaries.