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    1. [INGREENE] Re: Obituary of Henry MILLER [1828PA—1910IN]
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Maxwell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ci.2ADE/3604.1 Message Board Post: I believe Henry's daughter Kitty was married to my Uriah Maxwell. I would love to correspond to see if they tie in. Please contact me. Thank you. Judy

    07/30/2002 04:43:09
    1. [INGREENE] Uriah Maxwell
    2. Looking for descendents of Uriah Maxwell, died in 1952, his obit was in the Trib Feb 14 1952. I am waiting for the Terre Haute Library to send obits for him and his wife Kitty Miller Maxwell and who I believe to be his brother Claud Maxwell. Any help on this line would be greatly appreciated. Judy Peters

    07/30/2002 04:11:32
    1. [INGREENE] Re: Obituary of James H. BAKER [1848IN—1912IN]
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ci.2ADE/4044.1 Message Board Post: I was very interested in this obituary. I came across it because I was looking for data on my great aunt, Edith (Baker, Whaley) Franke. Edith married William Franke ,Dec. 12, 1906 in Clark Co., IN. On the marriage document, Edith's father was identified James Baker, a farmer, in Greene Co, IN. Her mother was Ann Burks, who was born in Kentucky. William was Edith's second husband.( Her first husband was Samuel Whaley, who died in Sept. of 1904. She and Samuel had three children.) After their marriage, Edith and William resided in Indianapolis, IN. If this is the same Edith Franke, I would appreciate any additional information that you have. Thank you. Norma

    07/30/2002 12:11:41
    1. [INGREENE] MOORE/SANDERS
    2. Marsha McWilliams
    3. Samuel W. Moore, b: June 8, 1845, Ohio (probably Jefferson Co.) died Sept. 22, 1901, Decatur (Macon Co), IL. He married Priscilla Ann Sanders in Greene Co on Dec. 21, 1866. Does anyone have any information on Samuel W. Moore? I'm really at one of those "brick walls." Thanks. Marsha IL

    07/29/2002 02:25:53
    1. [INGREENE] Tragic Deaths and Obituaries of Billy Ray KIRK [1939IN—1961IN] and His Daughter, Vickie Lynn KIRK [1959IN—1961IN]
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: DOBSON, KIRK, SHERROW, SLAVEN Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ci.2ADE/4655 Message Board Post: THE BLOOMFIELD NEWS, Bloomfield, Greene County, Indiana, Thursday, November 2, 1961, Volume LXXXVII, Number 4, Page 1, Columns 7 & 8, “Father, Daughter Killed In Automobile Accident.” [Transcribed 29 Jul 2002 from Bloomfield-Eastern Greene County Public Library’s IHS Microfilm Records.] A 22-year-old Bloomfield man and his little daughter were killed in an automobile accident 5½ miles east of here early Wednesday morning. Dead are Billy Ray KIRK and his daughter, Vickie Lynn, age 2½ years. The mother, Mrs. Judith Ann (DOBSON) KIRK, is in critical condition at the Freeman-Greene County Hospital in Linton as a result of injuries suffered in the wreck. Her condition this morning is still critical and she remains unconscious. The young couple and their daughter were traveling in a 1958 Mercury 4-door car on State Road 54 east of Bloomfield at the time of the accident. Their car left the road, crashed through a guard railing and plunged over a steep embankment. Mr. KIRK died instantly, and Vickie Lynn died at 5:25 o’clock yesterday morning in the Linton Hospital. Trooper George CAMPBELL and Deputy Sheriff Dale HORN, who investigated, said that the wreck was found by a truck driver who noticed that guard posts along the highway had been knocked down. Trooper CAMPBELL said the car had swerved off the highway, knocked down guard posts, gone over an embankment, and hit a tree. Mr. KIRK and his daughter were thrown from the car, and Mrs. KIRK was found unconscious, still in the car. The vehicle was completely demolished. Mrs. Nit WHITE told officials the KIRK family had visited with her at her home near Elliston until about 10:00 o’clock Tuesday night. When they started to leave, Mr. KIRK found that his car wouldn’t start, and they had to have a booster charge put on the battery before the motor would start. Cause of the accident has not been determined, but one theory was that the family had driven east of Bloomfield to charge the battery on their car. It still has not been determined how long the family had been at the scene of the accident when the tragedy was discovered. Mr. KIRK was born August 4, 1939, in Washington, the son of Ralph Houston and Wilma Lucille (SLAVEN) KIRK. He graduated from Bloomfield High School with the class of 1957, and was employed by the Holland Dairy here. He is survived by the wife; his parents of Bloomfield R. 2; a sister, Mrs. Jerry SHERROW, of Bloomfield R. 4, and three brothers, Larry, Donald and Gary KIRK, at home. Also surviving are the grandparents, Mr. and Mrs. Harry SLAVEN, of Washington, and Mrs. Myrtle KIRK of Petersburg. Vickie Lynn KIRK was born March 1, 1959, at the Freeman Greene County Hospital in Linton, the daughter of Billy Ray and Judith Ann (DOBSON) KIRK. She is survived by her mother, the grandparents, Mr. and Mrs. Ralph KIRK, and Mr. and Mrs. Vernon DOBSON, and by the great-grandparents, Mr. and Mrs. Harry SLAVEN, Mrs. Myrtle KIRK and Mrs. Ora F. DOBSON, of Bloomfield route. The bodies of Mr. KIRK and his daughter will lie in state at the Jenkins Funeral Home here until Saturday afternoon. Funeral services will be held at the Solsberry Methodist Church at 2 o’clock Saturday afternoon, and burial will be in Grandview Cemetery. The double services will be conducted by Rev. Paul MILLS and Rev. James BASTAIN.

    07/29/2002 12:41:08
    1. [INGREENE] Re: Livery Stables
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Minks Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ci.2ADE/2025.1 Message Board Post: Not sure about the stables, but i have a guestion. How are you related to the Minks family? My maiden name was Minks and i am from Owen County right nest to Greene county, actually i now live in Worthington in Greene Co. please reply. Thank you Kim Minks Thatcher kltmlt@joink.com or kim_thatcher47471@yahoo.com I am also searching for 4 children in my family that were put up for adoption in Greencastle Indiana 2 girls and twin boys.

    07/29/2002 11:36:02
    1. [INGREENE] Loren Taylor & Sarah Shackeltt Taylor
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Taylor, Shacklett Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ci.2ADE/4654 Message Board Post: I would appreciate any information I could get on their Dates of death. I know they were alive in 1880 and that Loren was not well. I know some names of some of their children but not any dates or who they married. I really don't have a lot of info. Their one daughter Mary Elizabeth was married to Urias Jamison, my ggrandparents. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

    07/29/2002 07:59:22
    1. [INGREENE] FROM COLLEEN ~ PLEASE READ
    2. Colleen Pustola
    3. This week I received two messages from two different researchers, each parallelling the other. The first message was from a list member regarding another new alias of our old nemesis, Family Discovery. Then, I received a second message from a researcher on another list regarding scam/spam. In lieu of these new messages, I decided somebody must be telling me something! So, today I'll bring you all up to speed on the newest of the bad side of the Web to ensure you're all protected with the necessary knowledge. ALL of my lists are receiving this message, including those city, county and state that I maintain. So, if you happen to be on more than one of them, I apologize in advance for your having to receive this more than once. This message includes the following topics: 1. Genealogyexperts.com ~ is it familydiscovery.com? 2. Scam/spam 3. Recommended sites GENEALOGYEXPERTS.COM ~ IS IT FAMILYDISCOVERY.COM? Most of us know all about these shysters. However, there are some of you who are new to the Web and don't know. This is for you: This is going to read just like my January warning! I'm sorry... but the words don't want to change... I guess it's always the same story with these people. :( "Genealogy Experts ~ it's a new commercial enterprise!" No, it isn't. This has the same trappings of Family Discovery using yet a another new alias; the same ploy as before ~ just with a new wrapping. Avoid them like you would any of Family Discovery's other "enterprises." Tender newbies, the subject of Family Discovery is NOT new and yes, they are rip-offs. This is an old subject among those of us who have been doing online genealogy for at least the last two years. The storyline changes a little, but the players are all the same, and you should be aware... Family Discovery and their alias sites (below) links their pages to free Rootsweb <http://www.rootsweb.com> sites and archive pages, USGenWeb sites, and privately owned sites by way of frames ... sites on which all the information is already free. Unless the attached site has some sort of identifier on each page, you the viewer, will not realize that you're viewing free pages and *paying* for the "privilege" of doing so! Family Discovery is doing this without permission and have been under investigation by at least two states' attorneys for the past two years. Now, while I'm at it, you need to know those other aliases so you're not taken in. Following is a list of sites associated with Family Discovery domain owners in one way or another: genealogydevelopments.com familydiscovery.com genealogyfinders.com genealogyfinders.net aboent.com genlocator.com genseeker.com genseekers.com genealogy-express.com Most of the above sites bill themselves as "the most comprehensive easy to use collection of online records ever compiled," or something close to it. Of course it is, if they link to every free website they can find! Save your money and do the search yourself! You DO NOT need to pay for a service that is already free if you know where to look. If you need assistance, send a message to the list and state in the top line of your message that you're a newbie needing help; you'll probably get more than you can handle! :) Census Diggins <http://www.censusdiggins.com/familydiscovery.html> has messages online from quite a few people who have stepped forward to tell you of their dealings with Family Discovery and some of their aliases. If you haven't done it already, it would be in your best interests to check it out, if only for a quick look. You newbies to online genealogy would be especially wise to go to this site and read what others are saying so you won't be ripped off. Jeff Scism has a lot of this in BIG, BLACK, BOLD lettering (really) on this page <http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/shame/genealogyexperts.htm>. Between Census Diggins and Jeff's Blacksheep page, you'll certainly understand why I'm devoting half of this Coffee to a warning. Just please, remember the above list of aliases. These people will take your money, giving you little to nothing in return, and from their past history will not answer any of your messages. Hide your wallet, checkbook, credit card, and run! :) SPAM/SCAM This subject is one that, if not careful, could cost you your life savings. The second message I received said: "Larry Elder <KABC Talk Radio host> mentioned the Nigerian spam and how people ARE actually being taken in by it." If you receive this spam, the government wants you to send it to them at one of two addresses <uce@ftc.gov> or <419.fcd@usss.treas.gov>. They are doing an investigation to get these people shut down. You'll need to forward the received message WITH THE FULL HEADERS. See the link to Gene Olson's site (below) where you can find instructions on how to open the full headers in a message. A site called Internet Scambusters <http://www.scambusters.org/Scambusters52.html> is dedicated to spreading the word about every scam they find out about. It's one you definitely want to visit. They have a newsletter that I receive that helps me stay ahead of these ripoffs; you might want to begin receiving it, yourself. EIGHT TIPS TO AVOID BEING TAKEN: 1.) Don't ever buy an item that you learn about via bulk email ("spam"). Your chances of receiving the item *at all* are only 45%, and the chance of your getting what you think at a reasonable price (so you're happy with the transaction) is less than 5%. In other words, "If it's spam, it's scam." 2. Always use a credit card to purchase online. This protects you. Your maximum exposure is $50, and often you won't even lose that amount if you get scammed. 3. If you are buying something at a reputable online auction site, always check out the references for the seller and only buy from sellers who have good references. Take advantage of online auction guarantees, such as those offered by amazon.com. 4. Don't conduct business with an anonymous user. Get the person's real name, business name (if applicable), address, and phone number. Verify this information before buying. And don't send your payment to a post office box. 5. Be more cautious if the seller uses a free email service, such as hotmail, yahoo, etc. Of course, most people who use these free services are honest. However, most problems occur when a free service is used. After all, with a free email service, it is very easy for the seller to keep his or her real identity and information hidden. 6. If the unsubscribe address is at a generic domain like Yahoo or Hotmail, chances are that your request will never be opened. On the other hand, if the site the spam mail is advertising has a quality domain, and the return address is within that domain, it's much more likely that the message will be read and may even be acted upon. 7. Save copies of all of the emails and other documents involved in the transaction. Then, if you discover that an item is counterfeit or not as advertised, you have documentation to help you deal with the problem. 8. Use common sense and trust your intuition. If you have a funny feeling about an item, don't buy it. You're very likely right that it is counterfeit. RECOMMENDED SITES Bad Business Web Site <http://www.compuright.net/EWOlson/badbusiness/> will give you instructions on how to forward an e-mail with the complete headers ~ something you need to know in order to forward spam/scam messages to the government and spam- or scam-reporting sites. Internet Fraud Complaint Center <http://www.ifccfbi.gov> is a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the National White Collar Crime Center which addresses fraud committed over the Internet by providing an easy to use way of alerting the authorities. ScamWatch <http://www.scamwatch.com> provides complete fraud Protection services for the entire Web community. These services include investigation, tracking, recording and removal of fraudulent activities (scams) on the Internet. Most services are available 24 hours a day and are cost free. [NOTE: Due to inadequate funding for their sites, Web Police, InterGOV, and all related agencies curtailed "all non-essential" services to the Internet community on July 22nd. It appears though, that you can still report a scam.] Victim-Assistance Online <http://www.vaonline.org> is a non-profit organization serving the international community. They are an on-line reference and communications resource for victim assistance service and support organizations, the staff and volunteers of these organizations, professionals in related fields and the general public. Our ancestors didn't have to put up with shysters in the same way we do today. Today we are almost required for our own survival to be one step ahead of "them" and certainly to be aware. It's my hope that this message, if you didn't already know, has done that for you. I wish you all a SUPER, SUNNY Sunday! :) Colleen

    07/27/2002 09:14:38
    1. [INGREENE] Holtsclaw info
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Holtsclaw, Parsons Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ci.2ADE/4653 Message Board Post: Does anyone have any info on Eliza J Holtsclaw who married Hiram T Parsons from Martin Co and had 3 daughters, Ella, Ethel and Margaret? She died 9-15-1881.

    07/27/2002 02:14:10
    1. [INGREENE] Re: INGREENE- Puckett
    2. Are there any descendants of Joseph and Martha Puckett subscribing to this list? Martha may have been born ca l843 if she is who I think she is. They would have lived near Jasonville, probably in Clay county.

    07/27/2002 07:52:05
    1. [INGREENE] Re: DOVER NATION BURCH HANCOCK GRAVES TIMMONS
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Nations, Burch Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ci.2ADE/254.743 Message Board Post: Wiley Burch married Pauline Emma Nations on 15 Oct 1898 in Greene Co, IN. She is (supposedly) the daughter of Thomas Nations & Matilda Bays. Wiley DOB 5 Aug 1875 Greene Co, IN, Died 16 Apr 1943 Linton, IN. Emma DOB 1880, died 1964 I visited the cemetery last year & the stones are in great shape.

    07/27/2002 05:09:44
    1. [INGREENE] Re: James Dover
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ci.2ADE/3928.1.1 Message Board Post: I have Sabra "Sarah" Dover married to Richard Smith in Greene County on 7/26/1868. Was Richard also called Freemon? And also this source; Source: 1870 Greene County, Fairplay Township 107-107 Smith Richard 28 Sabra 21 Henry 1

    07/26/2002 11:06:32
    1. [INGREENE] Re: James Dover
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ci.2ADE/3928.1 Message Board Post: Can you tell me if Sabra was married to Freemon Smith?

    07/26/2002 10:43:00
    1. [INGREENE] OBIT Lookup: ELIAS EDWARDS
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: EDWARDS Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ci.2ADE/4652 Message Board Post: Looking for an obit. for Elias Edwards, who died, we're guessing, around 1888, in Greene Co., IN.

    07/25/2002 01:38:29
    1. [INGREENE] OBIT: Daniel Riggle/Ragle
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: RIGGLE/RAGLE Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ci.2ADE/4651 Message Board Post: I am looking for an obituary for Daniel Riggle. Came from Ohio. Wife, Lovina. He is listed on IN 1860 Owen Co., and 1880 census Greene Co. Thank you for your help! I need the obit. in order to jump over a road block! clm32461@aol.com

    07/25/2002 01:37:12
    1. [INGREENE] OBIT: Daniel Riggle/Ragle
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: RIGGLE/RAGLE Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ci.2ADE/4650 Message Board Post: I am looking for an obituary for Daniel Riggle. Came from Ohio. Wife, Lovina. He is listed on IN 1860 Owen Co., and 1880 census Greene Co. Thank you for your help! I need the obit. in order to jump over a road block! clm32461@aol.com

    07/25/2002 01:36:37
    1. [INGREENE] Re: New Email Address again
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ci.2ADE/1711.1833.1 Message Board Post: sorry had to switch to email addy that won't ever change... deannajo84@yahoo.com

    07/25/2002 10:00:06
    1. [INGREENE] Need an obit
    2. Can someone look up an obit for me for Andrew Maxwell. The death record shows he lived in Linton, he died Sept 13 1927. Thank you so very much. Judy Peters

    07/25/2002 04:36:46
    1. [INGREENE] Re: Obituary of Dr. William ALEXANDER, MD [1793KY–1871IN]
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ALEXANDER Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ci.2ADE/3047.1 Message Board Post: Attached is a digital photo of the Obituary of Dr. William ALEXANDER, MD

    07/24/2002 11:11:53
    1. [INGREENE] Re: Obituary of Hon. William S. COLE [1788IRE—1871IN]
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: COLE Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ci.2ADE/3048.1 Message Board Post: Attached is a digital photo of the obituary from the original newspaper. The source is "The Bloomfield Weekly Tribune" not "The Bloomfield Weekly Times."

    07/24/2002 10:47:18