instead of typing a name in your queries try typing the name "UNKNOWN" use it as a first name or a last name, experiment with it!! first to see if you can use this tactic at a particular web site try using the names SMITH or JONES ie: SMITH UNKNOWN UNKNOWN SMITH this works in the Kentucky Death Index & the SSDI Master index. try it in other places too & see what you can find! Penny Indianapolis, Indiana EMAIL: PENNYCANDY@prodigy.net My Homepage~ http://www.angelfire.com/in/myhomeindex/index.html ICQ# 11534073