To all: Being new to this list, I thought it would be a good idea to set out my Ingram of Ingraham connection. The furthest Ingram I can identify is Arthur Ingram, who settled in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania in circa 1817. He took out citizenship papers in 1817, stating that he had been born in Belfast, Ireland. In 1820 he married Sarah Stewart. He and his family are listed on the 1850 census, in Indiana Township, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, with an age of 72 for Arthur, suggesting that he was born in 1777 or 1778, and an age of 60 for Sarah. They had six children: Arthur Jr., Sarah Ann, Thomas, Henry, William, and David. On the 1850 census Henry is shown as aged 20, Sarah as 18, William J. as 22. The other children are not listed on the census, but are named in Arthur's will. His will was written in January 1853, and appears to have been probated in the same month, so that must have been when he died. William John Ingram, son of Arthur and Sarah Ingram, married Mary Ann Silvey on 24 Jul 1851 in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania. Their children were: Angelina, b. 13 Dec 1852 in Sharpsburg, PA; Alice b. 7 Jan 1855, in Sharpsburg; Mary A., b. 1 Oct 1857, in Morgan County, Ohio; John W., b. 16 Aug 1860, Morgan County, Ohio; Lauretta Jane, b. 25 Dec 1863, in Morgan County; Ida May, b. 23 Nov 1866, in Morgan County, Ohio; Eunice Estella, b. 28 Mar 1870, in Calloway County, Missouri; and William H., b. 26 Sep 1875, in Calloway County, Missouri. Sometime between 1875 and 1888, William and Mary Ann Ingram moved their family to Lyon County, Kansas, then moved to Monroe, Washington, where they both died. Lauretta Jane Ingram married John Willard Brewer on 18 Jan 1888, in Lyon County, Kansas. They were my g-grandparents. Family tradition has always held that Arthur Ingram Sr was a sea faring man, and that he had originally come to the United States in the early 1800s, living first in New York. Soon after arriving in America, he appears, again according to family tradition, to have been impressed by the British, and held by them for 11 years before escaping and returning to America, this time settling in Pennsylvania. However, since he took out citizenship papers in 1817, it would appear he had not previously been an American citizen and therefore was a British subject until 1817. How much of this is true, I have no idea. Bill Brewer