Hello Ingram Researchers!! Im looking for any information on POLY HAMMONDS INGRIM (INGRAHM, INGRAM) who married a JOSEPH ESTEP on January 9, 1812 in Adair Co, TN. She might have been adopted by the Ingrim family. I have no birth date on her. Her family ran Hotels in the St. Louis area. She bonded out her son, Joseph W. Estep to these Ingrims to learn the trade of hotel work. He did not complete that indenture. Any information on either this lady, or any INGRIMS that might have run hotels in St. Louis, MO in about 1825 or so would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks! Richard Beckman Bunky187@Aol.Com

Hello. My name is Lynn Ardahl-Ingram. I have just started researching my husband's genealogy. I haven't been able to do much with it, since most of his family is unsure of the date and place Sol INGRAM (my husband's great grandfather) was born. Believed to be 1898 possibly in TN or Arkansas. We do know that his father's name was William INGRAM. Sol's son Doc Hite INGRAM died a few years before Sol. Sol died in 1982(?) in Akron, Ohio. That's all I know at this time. Have been attempting to get a copy of my husband's uncle's research... he has the dates and places, but I've been unable to reach him. If anyone thinks they might have information that will help me, please contact me at ingram@shianet.org Sincerely, Lynn I. ******************************************************************** Please visit our Websites: Lynn's Adoption Story and Search http://www.geocities.com/~lynni/ FindMe - a FREE reunion registry for those separated through adoption http://www.findme.org or http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/8011/ Researching : MATTINGLY, INGRAM, FOX/SHORR, ARDAHL, BURK (Bjork), MARGIAWICZ, DOBRITZKY, HALE and others

Hello; This message is being forwarded to you because there are many of you on this list who have been following the descendancy charts that WDC have been posting for me. I have just tried out this URL and it is working really great. Although SCHOONOVER is not my line, it does have some links to other charts that are. If this message bothers you, please contact me personally or just delete or whatever works best for you. Sandra in Sacramento ==================== >Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:56:28 -0800 (PST) >Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:24:25 -0800 (PST) >From: WDC GenWeb <dlytton@primenet.com> >Subject: Daniel Schoonover descendants >X-Mailing-List: <wdc-genweb@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/141 > >Some descendants of Daniel Schoonover: >http://www.primenet.com/~dlytton/wdc/z0000183.html > >Daniel was born 1780, he died July 19 1872. There are few known >locations, the ones that are listed are in VA/WV. Surnames found >in this chart contributed by Sandra Duncan are: > >Baker, Bowman, Canfield, Cartney, Cole, Day, Ferguson, Gainer, >Nutter, Parsons, Schoonover, Skidmore, Stout, Van Scoy, Wilfong, >Wilmoth and Yeager. > > > This list now has 843 subscribers > WDC GenWeb Home Page: http://www.primenet.com/~dlytton/wdc >Search Our People Indexes: http://www.primenet.con/~dlytton/wdc.html >Daryl Lytton - WDC GenWeb Project Coordinator - dlytton@primenet.com > > Sandra Eleanor [T.YLER] D.UNCAN purplevw@sl.net <ôçô> SURNAMES & MAILING LISTS CAN BE (ô¿ô) SEEN AT: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3577 I AM A PROUD OF ROOTSWEB AS OF 11 SEP 1997 & 5 JAN 1998 Support RootsWeb! Go "NOW" to: http://www.rootsweb.com

Hello, All; Believe it or not, I have just gone through the Watson B. DYER book, trying to pick out all of the INGRAMs I could find. This is what I have so far. *ALL* of this information comes from that book and was documented by Mr. DYER but not by me. Please use caution, some of the book is very hard to follow. Would really like to get more information on this line. BTW, please notice >>THIS IS MY ALTERNATE E-MAIL ADDRESS<< Sandra in Sacramento ==================== Descendants of John Ingram 1 John INGRAM .. +Polly TILLMAN b: 08 Oct 1744 Father: George TILLMAN Mother: Judith MASON 2 John INGRAM b: 1755 Union Dist, GA d: 16 Sep 1829 Hall, GA ... +Ruth WHITE b: from Union Dist., SC d: Abt. 1846 Cherokee Co., GA Father: Henry WHITE Mother: 3 [2] Little INGRAM, Sr. b: Jan 1788 Union, GA d: 1866 Union, GA ..... +Mary Polly CAGLE b: 1794 d: 1830 Union, GA Father: Henry CAGLE Mother: .. 4 Rebecca INGRAM b: 04 May 1814 d: 19 Apr 1888 Cherokee Co., GA ...... +Joseph Roland CAGLE b: 11 May 1808 d: 14 Jul 1868 Cherokee Co., GA Father: Jacob KAGLES Mother: ELIZABETH .. 4 Isaac INGRAM b: 17 Feb 1816 Hall Co., GA d: 1855-1856 Blairsville Union Co., GA ...... +Sarah HAINES b: 1816 NC Father: Mother: .. 4 Elizabeth INGRAM b: 1818 ...... +Alfred WEST d: Bef. 1850 Father: Mother: .. 4 Sarah INGRAM b: 1820 ...... +Thompson COLLINS, Jr. b: NC d: Union Co., GA Father: Mother: .. 4 [1] Tillman INGRAM b: 1822 d: 22 Nov 1863 Civil War, Trinity, TX ...... +Mary HARKINS Father: Unk HARKINS Mother: .. *2nd Wife of [1] Tillman Ingram: ...... +Martha HARKINS b: First Wife Father: Unk HARKINS Mother: .. 4 Nancy INGRAM b: 1823 ...... +Arthur ENGLAND b: 1819 Father: Mother: .. 4 Mary Jane INGRAM b: 14 Feb 1826 ...... +Henry DAY b: 1817 Father: Mother: .. 4 Louisa Eliza INGRAM b: 05 Mar 1827 GA d: 02 Mar 1907 Union, GA ...... +James Marion DYER b: 12 Oct 1823 Pendleton, SC d: 27 Apr 1904 Union, GA Father: Bluford Elisha DYER, Jr. Mother: Elizabeth CLARK .. 4 Malinda INGRAM b: 22 Mar 1829 d: Choestoe, Union, GA ...... +Andrew Crockett TOWNSEND b: 1826 Lumpkin, GA d: Bef. 1870 Father: Eli TOWNSEND Mother: Sallie DYER *2nd Wife of [2] John Little Ingram: ..... +Cary KITTLES b: 04 Dec 1806 d: 1844-1845 Father: Jeremiah KITTLE, Sr. Mother: .. 4 Lucretia INGRAM b: 14 Oct 1830 ...... +George RHODES d: 1866-1868 Father: Mother: .. 4 Little INGRAM, Jr. b: 05 Feb 1832 d: 1863 Civil War at Vicksburg, MS ...... +Mary KING Father: Mother: .. 4 Ginsey Kersey? INGRAM b: 23 Jun 1833 ...... +Christopher MORGAN Father: Mother: .. 4 Allen INGRAM b: 04 Sep 1834 d: 1918 ...... +Sarah POSTELL Father: Mother: .. 4 Clary INGRAM b: 1835 .. 4 Cinthia INGRAM b: 01 Apr 1837 ...... +Jeremy MEARS Father: Mother: .. 4 Jeremiah INGRAM b: 02 Dec 1838 ...... +Elizabeth HENSON Father: Mother: .. 4 Benjamin INGRAM b: 15 Apr 1840 ...... +Charity GILBERT Father: Mother: .. 4 Ruth INGRAM b: 11 May 1842 ...... +William PARR Father: Mother: .. 4 Martin INGRAM b: 1844 d: 1863 Civil War, Jackson, MS ...... +Rebecca BOZEMAN Father: Mother: *3rd Wife of [2] John Little Ingram: ..... +Catherine CAMERON Father: Mother: .. 4 Joseph INGRAM b: 23 Apr 1846 d: 26 Jan 1940 Franklin, NC ...... +Phillia GRIGGS Father: Mother: .. 4 William P. INGRAM b: 11 Nov 1847 d: 1927 ...... +Sarah GILBERT Father: Joshua GILBERT Mother: Sandra E. (T.YLER) D.UNCAN .+. purplevw@sl.net -------TO SEE MY SURNAMES, PLEASE GO TO------- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis.3577

Hello, All; Some of the archives are now up and running. Just go to: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Remember... NO ATTACHMENTS TO THE LIST NO VIRUS WARNINGS - NO INTERNET TELEPHONE CHARGES WARNINGS IF YOU HAVE A NON-GENEALOGY ITEM TO POST, PLEASE CONTACT ME FIRST purplevw@sl.net Enjoy!!! Sandra in Sacramento ==================== Sandra Eleanor [T.YLER] D.UNCAN purplevw@sl.net <ôçô> SURNAMES & MAILING LISTS CAN BE (ô¿ô) SEEN AT: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3577 I AM A PROUD OF ROOTSWEB AS OF 11 SEP 1997 & 5 JAN 1998 Support RootsWeb! Go "NOW" to: http://www.rootsweb.com

Ingrams 1782-1787 NC migrated to MS, AL, TX, CA. Other related family names: Loften, Grimsley, Woodall, Prewett, Johnson, Barns, Walser, Canty, West, Campbell. JoAnne

Dear Melissa: Your Peggy sure looks like she could belong to the Ingram family I am researching. My ancestor Abraham Ingram b 1750 m Elizabeth Slaven, his father was Abraham b 1721 m Rhoda Collins. These Ingrams lived on the border of MD and DL. They owned land in Sussex Co, DL and several counties in MD. Both theses Abrahams later moved to Bath Co, VA. Tell me more about your Ingrams in this area. Lyle Corder

This is my other INGRAM: Susan INGRAM b. May 13, 1770 d. June 1, 1840 in NY m. Abt 1793 in NY Thomas STODDARD b. 1773 in NY(?) d. After 1840 in Chautaugua Co, NY (prob.) This is all I have, no other dates or locations, If you see a connection, please let me know. Thanks Melissa (Bruno) Ward http://www.wardhistory.com

This is all I have on this INGRAM Line: Peggy INGRAM m. 1773 in Sussex Co.,Delaware Clarke NOTTINGHAM No other dates or locations.If you see a connection, please let me know. Thanks Melissa (Bruno) Ward http://www.wardhisatory.com

I would like to invited everyone to stop by my homepage and take a look at this week's History Photo. It's the last home of Jesse James plus the gun and bullet hole inside his home. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9710 Enjoy! -- Michele in MO Please visit any or all my pages below. MY FAMILY GENEALOGY RESEARCH: http://members.tripod.com/~genealogy_thomas FLUVANNA CO. VIRGINIA: http://members.aol.com/leeintn/private/fluvanna/michele.htm KIDD WEBSITE: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9710 KIDD MAIL LIST: send message "subscribe " to <Kidd-L-request@rootsweb.com> To "unsubscibe" send message to the address above. To Post a message: send message to Kidd-L@rootsweb.com BRAGG MAIL LIST To Post a message: send message to BRAGG-L@rootsweb.com

Hello Everyone, I am please to annouce that BRAGG researchers can now join together at the mail list. To subscribe sent message to BRAGG-L-request@rootsweb.com In the message area. type subscribe Be sure not to have anything else in your message. Thank you, -- Michele in MO Please visit any or all my pages below. MY FAMILY GENEALOGY RESEARCH: http://members.tripod.com/~genealogy_thomas FLUVANNA CO. VIRGINIA: http://members.aol.com/leeintn/private/fluvanna/michele.htm KIDD WEBSITE: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9710 KIDD MAIL LIST: send message "subscribe " to <Kidd-L-request@rootsweb.com> To "unsubscibe" send message to the address above. To Post a message: send message to Kidd-L@rootsweb.com

Just added the descendant chart of the following surnames. CARR - England and Virginia RUSSELL - England, Delaware and Virginia TILMAN - England, and Vriginia You may view them at http://members.tripod.com/~genealogy_thomas -- Michele in MO Please visit any or all my pages below. MY FAMILY GENEALOGY RESEARCH: http://members.tripod.com/~genealogy_thomas FLUVANNA CO. VIRGINIA: http://members.aol.com/leeintn/private/fluvanna/michele.htm KIDD WEBSITE: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9710 KIDD MAIL LIST: send message "subscribe " to <Kidd-L-request@rootsweb.com> To "unsubscibe" send message to the address above. To Post a message: send message to Kidd-L@rootsweb.com

Happy New Year; Sandra in Sacramento ==================== I've learned that you can't hide a piece of broccoli in a glass of milk. Age 6 I've learned that I like my teacher because she cries when we sing "Silent Night". Age 7 I've learned that when I wave to people in the country, they stop what they are doing and wave back. Age 9 I've learned that just when I get my room the way I like it, Mom makes me clean it up. Age 12 I've learned that if you want to cheer yourself up, you should try cheering someone else up. Age 13 I've learned that although it's hard to admit it, I'm secretly glad my parents are strict with me. Age 15 I've learned that silent company is often more healing than words of advice. Age 24 I've learned that brushing my child's hair is one of life's great pleasures. Age 25 I've learned that wherever I go, the world's worst drivers have followed me there. Age 29 I've learned...that if someone says something unkind about me, I must live so that no one will believe it. Age 39 I've learned that there are people who love you dearly but just don't know how to show it. Age 41 I've learned that you can make someone's day by simply sending them a little card. Age 44 I've learned that the greater a person's sense of guilt, the greater his need to cast blame on others. Age 45 I've learned that children and grandparents are natural allies. Age 46 I've learned that singing "Amazing Grace" can lift my spirits for hours. Age 49 I've learned that motel mattresses are better on the side away from the phone. Age 50 I've learned that you can tell a lot about a man by the way he handles these three things: a rainy day, lost luggage, and tangled Christmas tree lights. Age 52 I've learned that regardless of your relationship with your parents, you miss them terribly after they die. Age 53 I've learned that making a living is not the same thing as making a life. Age 58 I've learned that if you want to do something positive for your children, try to improve your marriage. Age 61 I've learned that life sometimes gives you a second chance. Age 62 I've learned that you shouldn't go through life with a catchers mitt on both hands. You need to be able to throw something back. Age 64 I've learned that if you pursue happiness, it will elude you. But if you focus on your family, the needs of others, your work, meeting new people, and doing the very best you can, happiness will find you. Age 65 I've learned that whenever I decide something with kindness, I usually make the right decision. Age 66 I've learned that everyone can use a prayer. Age 72 I've learned that it pays to believe in miracles. And to tell the truth, I've seen several. Age 73 I've learned that even when I have pains, I don't have to be one. Age 82 I've learned that every day you should reach out and touch someone. People love that human touch-holding hands, a warm hug, or just a friendly pat on the back. Age 85 I've learned that I still have a lot to learn. Age 92 Please pass this on to someone you care about. Sometimes they just need a little something to make them smile. :) Sandra Eleanor [T.Y.L.E.R] D.U.N.C.A.N purplevw@sl.net <ôçô> SURNAMES & MAILING LISTS CAN BE (ô¿ô) SEEN AT: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3577 I AM A PROUD OF ROOTSWEB AS OF 11 SEP 1997 & 5 JAN 1998 Support RootsWeb! Go "NOW" to: http://www.rootsweb.com

Hello; I just got this URL and I urge everyone who is interested in these internet charges by the telephone companies to read this. It even addresses our recent flurry of messages that were settled a year ago. http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Common_Carrier/Factsheets/ispfact.html Sandra in Sacramento ==================== Sandra Eleanor [T.Y.L.E.R] D.U.N.C.A.N purplevw@sl.net <ôçô> SURNAMES & MAILING LISTS CAN BE (ô¿ô) SEEN AT: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3577 I AM A PROUD OF ROOTSWEB AS OF 11 SEP 1997 & 5 JAN 1998 Support RootsWeb! Go "NOW" to: http://www.rootsweb.com

Hello; This is a forwarding from Brian and needs no reply to anyone. This is just to give you an update on the archives and some of you have wondered about that lately. Sandra in Sacramento ==================== Sandra Eleanor [T.Y.L.E.R] D.U.N.C.A.N purplevw@sl.net <ôçô> SURNAMES & MAILING LISTS CAN BE (ô¿ô) SEEN AT: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3577 I AM A PROUD "S P O N S O R" OF ROOTSWEB AS OF 11 SEP 1997 Support RootsWeb! Go "NOW" to: http://www.rootsweb.com Hi all - As many of you know, yesterday RootsWeb moved our main Web server onto a new pair of load-balanced T1 connections to The Net's core mesh, so we now have a total of 4 T1s' worth of outbound bandwidth. That should last us awhile. The next upgrade we plan is to double the memory in the main list server (lists.rootsweb.com) to 512 MB of DRAM. To accomplish that, we'll need to take the box entirely offline for 2-3 hours and there may be some brief downs after that while we tune things up. The downs will occur during the next 48 hours, and possibly as early as this afternoon if all goes well. After the main memory in the list server is upgraded, the next box we'll be upgrading is the search engine server. The new search engine server will have a gigabyte of DRAM and 45 GB of very high- speed RAID-5 disk storage. When the search engine upgrades are complete, we'll reindex the list archives, reindex the USGenWeb archives, give Marc Nozell all the space he'll ever need for the list archiver (:, and set up scheduled reindexing so the list and USGenWeb Archives searches stay fairly close to current. As always, I'd like to express RootsWeb's appreciation for your support. With a gigabyte of memory costing $3,500 and a RAID-5 array costing $7,500, we couldn't be doing all this without the support of RootsWeb's Members, Sponsors, and Donors. Cheers, B. -- Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative http://www.rootsweb.com/ P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 leverich@rootsweb.com

1860 Pulaski County, Missouri census lists the following household: William Ingraham 31, IL Jane " 32, TN Tennessee " 14, IL David " 9, MO Jane " 6, AR John " 6, TX Charity " 3, AR James " 2, MO Polly Jones 29, IL William " 8, AR Marville " 4, MO WILKERSON Tennessee, David, and John were Wilkersons, children of Jane's first husband Marvel Wilkerson/Wilkinson (ca1810-1858). All three resurfaced in Pulaski Co. in the mid-1870's where they married and raised families. INGRAHAM Can anyone help me identify the Ingraham family? Does anyone know where they went after 1860? Jane and William would have been married in 1859-1860--when and where? JONES I believe Polly Jones to have been Jane Wilkerson (ca. 1833-?), daughter of Marvel and Eveline Wilkerson and stepdaughter of Jane SCRIBNER Wilkerson Ingraham (ca. 1829-?). Can anyone provide her husband's name? Does anyone know what happened to Polly and her sons after 1860? Marvel/Marvil/Marville is a rather unusual first name--does anyone have this name in their Jones family tree? Any help on tracing any of these families will be greatly appreciated. belenda@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I'm trying to find out info about Nathaniel Ingraham b.1747 in Burlington, MA d.1830's in Genessee Co. (now Yates Co.) NY. He was a follower of Jemima Wilkinsen. His wife's name was Experience. I'm also interested in info about her. Christy Kallies

Hello; I am not real sure if this is proper, but I get so many queries on my lists about sources for some of the books I use as a source for my genealogy. This evening I was reading my new copy of Everton's GENEALOGY HELPER and I was elated to see some of the very books that I use being advertised as reprints. Oren F. Morton, A HISTORY OF HIGHLAND COUNTY, VIRGINIA (Clearfield Co; 200 E. Eager St; Baltimore, MD 21202 reprint 1997 from 1911) softcover, 6 x 9, 532 pages, index, $45.00 + $3.50 shipping. Advertised in GH Nov-Dec 1997, p. 159. Dr. A. S. Bosworth, A HISTORY OF RANDOLPH COUNTY, WEST VIRGINIA, (Parsons, West Virginia, McClain Printing Company, 1975 reprint from 1916) Hardcover, 5 3/4 X 8 1/2, 448 pages. -- (Clearfield Co; 200 E. Eager St; Baltimore, MD 21202 reprint 1997 from 1916) softcover, 6 x 9, 448 pages, partially indexd, $35.00 + $3.50 shipping. Advertised in GH Nov-Dec 1997, p. 162. Woods, Edgar, Rev., ALBEMARLE COUNTY IN VIRGINIA. (Clearfield Co; 200 E. Eager St; Baltimore, MD 21202 reprint 1979 from 1900); Softcover, 5 1/2 X 8 1/2 416 pages, index. $35.00 + $3.50 p&h. Advertised in GH Nov-Dec 1997, p. 159. Plus, this one is always good. Frances C. Griffin, VIRGINIA FAMILY PAMPHLETS, Order from; Mrs. Frances C. Griffin; 1313 Butts Station Rd; Chesapeake, VA 23320; BROWN, BUTLER, BOLLING, CLARK, CLAIBORNE, DABNEY, GARLAND, HARRIS, LEWIS, MERIWETHER, MINOR, OVERTON, SCOTT, SIMS, THORNTON, TALIAFERRO, THOMPSON, WALLER, WARD, WYATT and many other surnames. They run about 6 to 10 pages and are a compilation of various articles on each surname with the documentation of where each article can be found. $9.00 ea. She usually advertises in Everton's GENEALOGY HELPER. ENJOY! Sandra in Sacramento Sandra Eleanor [T.Y.L.E.R] D.U.N.C.A.N purplevw@sl.net <ôçô> SURNAMES & MAILING LISTS CAN BE (ô¿ô) SEEN AT: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3577 I AM A PROUD "S P O N S O R" OF ROOTSWEB AS OF 11 SEP 1997 Support RootsWeb! Go "NOW" to: http://www.rootsweb.com

Please direct your answers to Sarah Rust, but the INGRAM-L list would like to see them too. Thanks Sandra in Sacramento ==================== Hello Sandra, I hope I do this right. Looking for information on Huldah Ingraham born ca 1776 maybe in VT. She married Matthew Dimmick and died ca 1862/64. She is buried in pleasant view IL Schuyler Co.. We do not have this confirmed yet but we think her father was Nathaniel Ingraham born 1747 in Bellingham MA. In the Yates Co.. History of New York it lists Nathaniel's children as Mary, Huldah,Chloe, Nathaniel, Solomon and David with his wife Experience. As of yet I can not find any information on Nathaniel's parents. Any information would be greatly appreciated. thank you. Sarah Rust

Below is a message another list-owner sent to her lists, but I wanted to add my own little insight. By now, you have seen the new tag-lines I have appended to the bottom of each list. This was done in direct relation to another list-owner mailing each of his subscribers and ASKING/CHIDING/TELLING them to send him money to run HIS lists. These lists do not cost any of us list-owners to run. They are given to us freely and you are invited to subscribe freely. The reason that we list-owners mention donations is that we do know that these lists cost Brian & Karen big bucks to run and maintain. Right now, they are adding more disk space because they have run out of room for the archives. A very long time ago, I became very jaded as to donations to anyone, be it a worthy charity or whatever, and I stopped donating. As of this moment, I am a sponsor at the $24.00 level and I am getting ready to send in $30.00 just on general principal. This is how much Rootsweb has come to mean to me. But, as a repeat of my tag-lines, these lists are free. I do not require any forms to be sent out, I just like to have a place where you can post your data and ask your questions, however, there are some list-owners who do ask questions. The same list-owner above sends out questionaires asking personal questions, seemingly in YOUR best interest. In my opinion, if you question any questionaire and the list-owner bans you from their list, you may have encountered a radical. I offer all subscribers that if they have any problems with any other list, to save the message(s) and notify me. I do not have nay poser to do anything, but I can find out more for you, should you need the aid. Anyway, please read the message from BRIAN.......... Sandra in Sacramento ===================== At 10:05 PM 1/5/98 -0500, you wrote: >Just passing along some information from Rootsweb. Now might be a good >time for you to consider becoming a Rootsweb sponsor or sending them a >donation. They provide an incredible service to the genealogy world. > >Remember....all donations should be sent to Rootsweb directly - - NOT to >listowners. Also, remember there is no pressure to donate.....the services >and surname lists are free. > >>Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 22:37:17 -0800 (PST) >>To: listowners-announce@rootsweb.com >>cc: "Dr. Brian Leverich" <leverich@rootsweb.com> >>Reply-to: "Dr. Brian Leverich" <leverich@rootsweb.com> >>Subject: Policy: RootsWeb Lists Are Free! >>Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 22:21:52 -0800 >>From: Brian Leverich <leverich@rootsweb.com> >>Resent-From: listowners-announce@rootsweb.com >>X-Mailing-List: <listowners-announce@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/30 >>X-Loop: listowners-announce@rootsweb.com >>Precedence: list >>Resent-Sender: listowners-announce-request@rootsweb.com >> >> >> >>Hi all - >> >>Hundreds of listowners and users have now given us input on the >>issues of whether listowners should be able to charge money or >>request personal information as a prerequisite for participating in >>a list, and Karen and I are now convinced that extreme behavior by >>some listowners could affect the whole listowner and user community >>by discouraging users from participating in any of our lists. >> >>Hence we'd like to formally announce policy that: >> >> RootsWeb Lists Are Free! >> >>Users should be able to subscribe to lists without being required to >>pay money and without being required to provide personal information. >> >>While we are willing to let bygones be bygones, future violations >>may result in a listowner being asked to relocate their lists to >>another server. >> >> >>IMPORTANT NOTES >> >>The foregoing policy does not apply to the few lists, for example >>the HCPD-L list for the Hacker's Creek Pioneer Descendants >>organization, that exist specifically for the members of an >>established organization. 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The point is that subscribers may not be *required* to >>provide that information: explain why you need the information and >>that providing the information is VOLUNTARY, then be tolerant of the >>folks who choose not to provide it. >> >>The foregoing policy does not prevent listowners or subscribers from >>soliciting voluntary contributions for family associations or other >>causes, so long as the purpose of the fund-raising is specified and >>the subscribers are told that participation is completely voluntary. >>With regards to purpose of the fund-raising, listowners must *never* >>give the impression they are fund-raising for RootsWeb or for the >>physical support of the list unless the funds are intended for >>RootsWeb. >> >> >>A PLEA FOR SENSIBILITY >> >>Please do not ask me or Karen to provide a detailed exegesis of this >>policy: just use your common sense and, if a particular situation >>seems unclear, bring it to the "listowners" list and ask our peers >>for their thoughts. >> >> >>Let's keep our subscribers happy and participation in our lists >>growing. Cheers, B. >> >> >>-- >>Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L >>RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative http://www.rootsweb.com/ >>P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 leverich@rootsweb.com >> > > > Sandra Eleanor [T.Y.L.E.R] D.U.N.C.A.N purplevw@sl.net <ôçô> SURNAMES & MAILING LISTS CAN BE (ô¿ô) SEEN AT: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3577 I AM A PROUD "S P O N S O R" OF ROOTSWEB AS OF 11 SEP 1997 Support RootsWeb! Go "NOW" to: http://www.rootsweb.com