This did not post. Please send your replies to Dave Burt at: chefdave@aros.net Also, Ingram list would like a copy!!! Sandra in Sacramento ******************** Jonathan Root married Candise Ingram, a.1790. They later lived in Washington Co. Ohio. Anyone have infomation? Dave Burt chefdave@aros.net Thank you -- MZ

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I posted this message about a week ago, and I didn't get any positive responses. I'm reposting it in the hope that someone new will be able to identify my family's background. I am researching my family's genealogy and I have come across the name William Dixon Ingram. His information is as follows: |William Dixon Ingram |(s)Patsy Liles |-----|William Bernard Ingram |-----|(s)Cornelia Martha Crouch |-----|-----|Nicolas Dixon Ingram (July 7, 1865-March 17, 1941) |-----|-----|(s) Mary "Mollie" Florence Seago (Feb 5, 1870-Sept. 1936) There are no dates for William Dixon or William Bernard or their wives. Nicholas Dixon Ingram and Mollie Seago lived in Lilesville, NC, in Anson Co. It is my hypothesis that the two Williams lived there as well, but they could have also lived in the surrounding areas. Any information would be helpful. Thank you. Sincerely Yours, Cori

These people are the "supposed' Parents of my Uriah INGRAM who lived in Plymouth, Schuyler County IL in the mid 1800s. Uriah was born abou 1814 in "Carntuckey", (listed on his IL marriage cert to Permelia BOX) but I just noticed a town in IL called "Kaintuck"......could he have meant a silly named town rather than a state? Someone told me that Uriahs parents were John and Sarah INGRAM. Uriah was born about 1814 in KY. That is the only history I have on him. The BOX family was from KY too. If anyone can help...please do! Valerie

Hello; This is a friendly reminder to please post your data. Lately, I have been receiving many, many messages for persons who want to subscribe, but about half of them are "ALREADY" on the mailing list. So, I have decided that the reason is that persons think they are no longer subscribed and so are (re)subscribing. Some of these lists are very slow, and there has been a major slowdown of posting lately. Please, if you believe you are no longer subscribed, why not post a name, with a data and a place, (if you have it). If you receive your message back within 24 hours, YOU ARE DEFINITELY SUBSCRIBED. If you do get unsubscribed, you will receive an unsubscription message. CAN WE PLEASE TRY TO MAKE EVERY POST COUNT??? My apologies to those many persons on this list that are not resubscribing over and over again. Thanks for being nearly perfect subscribers. Sandra in Sacramento ******************** Sandra [T.YLER] D.UNCAN purplevw@sl.net <ôçô> SURNAMES may or may not be documented (ô¿ô) SEEN AT: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3577 PROUD SPONSOR OF ROOTSWEB AS OF 11 SEP 1997 & 5 JAN 1998 Support RootsWeb! Go "NOW" to: http://www.rootsweb.com

Joseph Gaston Ingram according to tombstone was born in 1771 and died in 1871 at the age of 110. He is buried in the Ingraham Cemetary in Covington County, MS. He was supposedly married three time and had at least twenty children (possible even thirty). I theorized that he might have been born in Southampton, VA near Lake Gaston, but who knows. Others in family say that they thought he was from Tar Heel, NC. He moved to AL-Sumter County by 1840 and was living in Mississippi 1850. He was a methodist circuit preacher. Any leads would be appreciated. Chris Summers CAPTIVA96@aol.com

This is NOT my line, but if anyone can help Fran with these Ingram's of Tennessee, please e-mail her. Fran in Michigan SwftOtter@aol.com Hello, I saw your info on FTM and wondered if you ever came up with where the name Conrad came from. I have my ancesters first cousin living in the same county in Ky that Samuel's grandfather was in and just wondered if by any chance they are connected. My Terry line is also out of VA. Trying to confirm the father of my 3 (poss. 4) Terry brothers that settled in Bedford Co. Tn in 1830 just after Keeble Terry and Sarah settled there. The brothers are John,b. 1806VA, Kibble/Keeble b. 1799 VA, Robert Henry Terry b. 1816 VA or KY m. to Elizabeth Bobo and poss a Thomas Terry, Col. m. to Elizabeth McGill. I am trying to prove their father is a Thomas Terry b. 1760-1770 VA. Got any clues??? I also have a Ingram that married into my Conrad line in Benton Co. TN. There are several Terry/Ingram marriages in early VA too. Fran in Michigan

Hello, Cori; Sorry, I have an extensive list of INGRAMs and none of your names are on it. Please stay with the list and post your stuff often. You never know... Sandra in Sacramento ******************** At 02:24 PM 4/5/98 -0400, you wrote: >I am not sure if we are looking for the same Ingrams, as it is a common >name, but have you come across any information about the following >line? Anything you have may be helpful, as I am just beginning to >research it. Thank you for your time. > >Sincerely Yours, >Cori (bigred@bestweb.net) > >|William Dixon Ingram >| (s) Patsy Liles >|-----|William Bernard Ingram >|-----|(s)Cornelia Martha Crouch >|-----|-----|Nicholas Dixon Ingram (1865 (TN) - 1941 (NC)) >|-----|-----|(s)Mary Florence Seago > > > > Sandra [T.YLER] D.UNCAN purplevw@sl.net <ôçô> SURNAMES may or may not be documented (ô¿ô) SEEN AT: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3577 PROUD SPONSOR OF ROOTSWEB AS OF 11 SEP 1997 & 5 JAN 1998 Support RootsWeb! Go "NOW" to: http://www.rootsweb.com

Hello, Cyril; Yes, but I have FREEMAN and DUNCAN. With full knowledge of what I was doing, I bought the DUNCAN book and my husband, sensitive to my genealogical leanings, bought me the FREEMAN book at a flea-market for $10.00. (No FREEMAN in our lines <G>). They one and the same. For some who are knowledgeable, if you purchase this book on a credit card, you have the right to return it within 30 days. This was discussed on one other mailing list that I was subscribed to and the company (HALBERTS I believe) changed their marketing to reflect that this was not a book on "YOUR" specific genealogy. But, they did so because someone with some clout, began to pressure them for their shoddy advertising tactics. However, when the ad for DUNCAN crossed my desk, I could see why "Jane and John American Public" might believe that they were going to get their family tree in a book for $40.00. After all, if your BLOUNT book is anything like my FREEMAN & DUNCAN book, you do have one heck-of-an address book devoted to BLOUNTs of the world. So sorry you were taken in. Let the buyer beware!!! Sandra in Sacramento ******************** At 02:31 PM 4/9/98 EDT, CyBLOUNT wrote: >Dear Fellow Blounts, > >Last November I bought THE BURKE'S PEERAGE WORLD BOOK OF BLOUNTS. I was > extremely disappointed by it and wrote to Burke's to express my reservations > about their publication. They have never answered my letter so I thought the > time had come to persuade them to do better. These were the points I made - > >"1. The proportions devoted to Blount information and general genealogical > information which can be obtained anywhere is wrong. There are 60 pages > devoted to Blount, and 116 devoted to useless stuff. For this price it > should be at least 70% about the Blount family. > >"2. The "history" section at the front of the book is written as if we are all > children - well - twelve year olds. There are so many half truths - "The > Roman walls of York stood throughout the Middle Ages and still stands today". > True fragments do still exist and all the foundations still exist, but much of > what you see today was built to repair the Roman wall in the Middle Ages. > There is no mention of the importance of Ireland as the repository of culture > and learning between 400-900 AD. >Your little illustrations which often look nothing like the people concerned > (e.g. Julius Caesar) again look as if they are taken from a cheap children's > story-book. > >"3. When you talk about William 1 you make no mention of the tradition that > Robert le Blount got together the ships which formed the invasion fleet. When > you talk about the discovery and colonisation of the Americas you do not > mention that virtually all of the earliest Blount settlers are descended from > James Blount and how he relates to the Blount families in England. > >"4. When you talk about the origin of the name Blount you make no connection > with the sons of the Count of Guisnes in Picardy. Or the problems associated > with this derivation. The name is not "old-English" as you call it, but > Norman French. > >"5. Your general piece on spelling variation can be summarised much more > succinctly in the case of Blount. Everyone, however the name was spelt, > pronounced it BLUNT before 1900. After 1900 slowly the family divided into > three groups (a) those who wrote the name BLOUNT and pronounced it BLUNT (b) > those who wrote the name BLUNT and pronounced it BLUNT (c) those who wrote the > name BLOUNT and pronounced it BLOWNT. This is not mentioned in the book and > it ought to have been if it was truly to reflect the distribution of the name. > >"6. The Blount Coat of Arms. In a book like this there ought to have been > reference to the other Blount Coats of Arms beside the one belonging to the > Blounts of Rock and Sodington. The others are: >a) quarterly argent and gules on a bend sable three eaglets displayed or. >b) gules, a fess between six martlets argent. >c) gules, a fess between six spur-rowells three and three argent. >d) azure, a saltire engrailed or. >e) azure, three leopards' faces jessant-de-lys or, a bendlet ermine. >f) checquy argent and gules, a baston sable. > >These are the ones I know about and I am not very knowledgeable heraldically. > Even in the arms you displayed the nebulée looks more like wavey. > >"7. The biggest mistake in the book - Chapter 3. Page 3.3 you say "Although > you may or may not be related by blood to this early namesake, you may wish to > adopt this crest for you own use today." I am amazed that the firm whose > name you bought - "Burke's" - has let you get away with this. IT IS ILLEGAL > TO USE ANYONE ELSE'S ARMS. And you should have said so. You should have > pointed out that Arms can only be issued by a Herald of the College of Arms - > and only to an individual - never to a family. On page 3.9 you give the > address of the college of Arms but you only point out that they will validate > Arms, you do not point out their role in the issuing of Arms. You even point > out that the "authority which enforces the proper use of Arms is the Lyon King > of Arms", but still you do not say that it is illegal to use Arms to which you > are not entitled. > >"8. The statistics on page 5.2. There are so many things wrong with this > table that what I say today must only be tentative: > a) The table is not dated. Obviously the number of families with the > surname Blount will vary on a day by day basis, we need to know when these > figures were true. > b) "Estimates" are given to the nearest digit. If it is an estimate you > cannot be accurate to the nearest digit, it is a contradiction in terms. > c) You do not say what the error is likely to be in your figures. Most > statistics given without the error being stated are assumed to be accurate > within 5%. But the kind of figures you give here cannot be much better than > 25%. Even if you use the UK telephone directories and look up all the Blount > and Blunt families you will get something of the order of 3,000 names and I > doubt if more than 50% of the Blounts and Blunts in this country are on the > phone, and that makes about 6,000 Blount/Blunt families. So your estimate of > the Blount/Blunt families in the UK is 300% out. > >"9. You give no "Further Reading" list - you do not point the readers to > sources where they can find out specific information about Blounts. You given > no list of published biographies. You do not mention Croke. He is really the > only place to start when researching the Blounts. > >"10. You give a nod towards alternative spellings and then you fail to > acknowledge that Blount and Blunt are the same name. Anyone researching > Blount needs to look at Blunt and vice versa, so this book only contains half > of what might be useful to any researcher." > >My first reaction was, "Anything is better than nothing." But now I am not > so sure. This is a bad book. I think I have wasted my money. In January > I wrote again - > >"I wrote to all the addresses in Shropshire and Staffordshire given in the > book as a start. Two of those to whom I wrote are dead, two have "gone away" > and the letters could not be delivered by the post office. Those just show > how out of date the list of Blounts was when you published it. But one - I > think this is the one that annoys me most - it shows how little checking you > did on these addresses before you published them - one I sent to an autistic > child. Think how the parents must have reacted to that ! It was very > unkind. Where, on earth, did you get that address from ?" I asked them > why they had not answered my first letter. They did not answer my second > letter either. > >Today they write to say they are re-printing the book. When they sold it the > first time they insisted that we had to order it before publication because > there would be no further copies available. Now they are re-printing. So > that was a commercial lie - to persade us to buy. I do not like that. It > smacks of sharp practice. > >Did you buy ? How did you react to the book ? > >Do you think we should warn folk about what they are buying ? > >Yours > >Cyril > >[The Rev Cyril D. Blount - Huddersfield, England U.K.] > > > >==== BLOUNT Mailing List ==== >LISTS NOW AVAILABLE--------http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3577 >These lists are FREE! If you are asked for donations or a questionaire by >any Rootsweb list, please contact me, Sandra, E-mail address is: purplevw@sl.net >To see how to donate to Rootsweb DIRECTLY, please go to http://www.rootsweb.com > > Sandra [T.YLER] D.UNCAN purplevw@sl.net <ôçô> SURNAMES may or may not be documented (ô¿ô) SEEN AT: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3577 PROUD SPONSOR OF ROOTSWEB AS OF 11 SEP 1997 & 5 JAN 1998 Support RootsWeb! Go "NOW" to: http://www.rootsweb.com

>Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:36:21 -0700 (PDT) >From: CAPTIVA96 <CAPTIVA96@aol.com> >Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:47:32 EDT >To: TYLER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: TYLER, Elizabeth (Ellie Ann), Alabama >Resent-Message-ID: <"zl-UWD.A.XaE.S9TL1"@fp-1.rootsweb.com> >Resent-From: TYLER-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <TYLER-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/375 >X-Loop: TYLER-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-Sender: TYLER-L-request@rootsweb.com > >Looking for parents/information of Elian C. Tyler may have been born around >1812. >Married a Joseph G. Ingram prior to 1840 and I suspect that they married in >Alabama. Ellie and Joseph lived in Sumter County, AL during 1840s. The >family moved to central Mississippi. >Chris-CAPTIVA96@aol.com > > >==== TYLER Mailing List ==== >SEE MY AVAILABLE LISTS-----http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3577 >These lists are FREE! If you are asked for donations or a questionaire by >any Rootsweb list, please contact me, Sandra, E-mail address is: purplevw@sl.net >To see how to donate to Rootsweb DIRECTLY, please go to http://www.rootsweb.com > > > Sandra [T.YLER] D.UNCAN purplevw@sl.net <ôçô> SURNAMES may or may not be documented (ô¿ô) SEEN AT: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3577 PROUD SPONSOR OF ROOTSWEB AS OF 11 SEP 1997 & 5 JAN 1998 Support RootsWeb! Go "NOW" to: http://www.rootsweb.com

I am researching my family's genealogy and I have come across the name William Dixon Ingram. His information is as follows: William Dixon Ingram (s) Patsy Liles CHILD - William Bernard Ingram (s)Cornelia Martha Crouch CHILD - Nicolas Dixon Ingram (July 7, 1865-March 17, 1941) (s) Mary "Mollie" Florence Seago (Feb 5, 1870-Sept. 1936) Any information would be helpful. Thank you. Sincerely Yours, Cori

Jay Johnston wrote: >Hello, >I read your post on the Ingrams (Uriah). I have a few Ingrams at my webpage >including a few John Ingrams. >I am descended from atleast one of them. Although Uriah is an unfamiliar >name to my Ingram line I do have a Rachel with very little information that >would have been born around your Rachel's birthdate. > >Hmmm. I just reread the post and it seems there are a couple of parties >involved here. >Well to all the info is still the same and if anyone would like to contact >me feel free. >Jay Johnston >Johnj609@bellatlantic.net >http://members.bellatlantic.net/~johnj609 > >"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is >a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." > - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) > >Descendants of Leatham Ingram > > 1 Leatham Ingram b: September 30, 1735 d: in West Bradford Twp., Chester >Co., Pa >. +Annie Ford d: in West Bradford Twp., Chester Co., Pa m: September 10, >1771 in Swedes Church,Wilmington, Del >........ 2 Susanna Ingram >........ 2 Jane Ingram >........ 2 Sarah Ingram >........ 2 William Ingram >........ 2 John L Ingram >........ 2 Rachel Ingram >........ 2 Mary Ingram >........ 2 Abraham Ingram >........ 2 Thomas Ingram >........ 2 Hannah Ingram > > > Hello Jay, Thanks very much for writing and for the information! I have just visited your website and checked out the family indicated, and certainly is the right timeframe. Not sure how to proceed to try and determine a connection, so welcome any ideas. A couple of things that might serve as clues one way or the other...our Rachel INGRAM's husband, Thomas SHREVE, was the son of Samuel and Sophia SHREVE and grandson of Caleb SHREVE and Hannah THORN of Burlington Co, NJ. These families were all longtime Quakers and in the case of Shreve's and Thorn's early colonists in Mass, Rhode Island and Long Island, New York. Samuel SHREVE fought in the revolution as did some of his relatives in Burlington Co. They were all disowned by Society of Friends for fighting and many of these ended up going to Pennsylvania. The Shreve genealogy book says that Caleb Shreve, the grandfather, died in Bedford Co, PA 8 Feb 1810, and that the father Samuel Shreve died in Fayette Co, PA in 1790, although have found no confirming evidence of this. Samuel's cousins, Israel Shreve and his brother and son, both also named Samuel, all were rev vets and moved to the same area, apparently going closely after the war ended. Sophia and her children all went down the Ohio River, sometime before 1820 is all we have heard, and settled in what is now Brown Co, Ohio. One son James went back to Venango Co, PA and remained there. Don't know where Rachel INGRAM and Thomas SHREVE were married, but the date given was 9 Jan 1811. Nine children born starting in 1813. Enclosing family group sheet below as maybe names of children's spouses will provide clues. There is also a reference from History of Fayette Co, PA on a John Ingram who was an indentured servant in 1770 Anyway, I don't believe that they ever sought reinstatement to Quakers. I don't know what happened to those who were disowned at that time, whether or not they still lived around and interacted with active Quakers. Wish I had more to go on! Terry =============================================================== Family Group Report - 5 Apr 1998 -------------------------------------------------- Husband: Thomas SHREVE -------------------------------------------------- Birth: About 10 Oct 1784 ®72 Place: Fayette Co, PA Death: 28 Sep 1854 ®72 Place: Russellville, Brown Co, OH Burial: Place: Old Russellville Cem, Jefferson Twp, Brown Co, OH ®72 Father: Samuel SHREVE (1747-1790) Mother: Sophia (SHREVE) -------------------------------------------------- Marriage: 9 Jan 1811 -------------------------------------------------- Wife: Rachel INGRAM -------------------------------------------------- Birth: 4 Jun 1784 Death: 3 Nov 1863 Place: Russellville, Brown Co, OH Father: John INGRAM -------------------------------------------------- Children... -------------------------------------------------- 1. M Child: Samuel SHREVE ®52 Birth: 14 May 1813 ®47 Place: Brown Co, OH Death: 26 May 1873 ®47 Place: Brown Co, OH Spouse: Malinda MEFFORD ®52 Marriage: 25 Sep 1845 Place: Brown Co, OH -------------------------------------------------- 2. M Child: John Shreve Birth: 14 Feb 1815 Death: Place: Brown Co, OH Spouse: Sarah Glaze Marriage: 12 Mar 1840 Place: Brown Co, OH -------------------------------------------------- 3. M Child: Caleb Shreve ®72 Birth: 11 Dec 1817 ®72 Death: 10 Dec 1880 ®72 Place: Brown Co, OH Burial: Place: Old Russellville Cem, Jefferson Twp, Brown Co, OH ®72 Spouse: Elizabeth Abbott ®29 Marriage: 12 Mar 1840 Place: Brown Co, OH -------------------------------------------------- 4. F Child: Jane Shreve Birth: 2 Apr 1819 Death: Place: Near Sheridan, IN Spouse: Jonah Person Marriage: 15 Aug 1839 Place: Russellville, Brown Co, OH -------------------------------------------------- 5. F Child: Eliza Shreve Birth: 19 Oct 1821 Place: Brown Co, OH Spouse: Thomas Glaze -------------------------------------------------- 6. M Child: Thomas Shreve Birth: 19 Oct 1821 Place: Brown Co, OH Death: 21 Sep 1850 ®72 Place: Brown Co, OH Burial: Place: Old Russellville Cem, Jefferson Twp, Brown Co, OH ®72 -------------------------------------------------- 7. F Child: Nancy Shreve Birth: 11 Mar 1824 Place: Brown Co, OH Spouse: Thomas Glaze Marriage: 12 Nov 1846 Place: Brown Co, OH -------------------------------------------------- 8. M Child: Jonah Shreve Birth: ? 13 Jan 1826 Place: Brown Co, OH Death: 29 Dec 1854 ®72 Place: Brown Co, OH Burial: Place: Old Russellville Cem, Jefferson Twp, Brown Co, OH ®72 -------------------------------------------------- 9. M Child: James Shreve Husband¹s Notes... -------------------------------------------------- GGG Grandfather of Terry Bodkin ®84 1850 Franklin Twp, Brown Co, Ohio, family #1768/1773:Thomas Shreave 65, Rachel 65, Caleb 31, Jonah 23, Eliza 28, Eliza J. 9, Elizabeth 8, Thomas 28. ®39 Thomas Shreve died 9/28/1854, aged 69 years 11 months 19 days, Old Russellville Cemetery, Jefferson Twp, p243, Tombstone Inscriptions of Brown County, Ohio. ®72 Wife¹s Notes... -------------------------------------------------- GGG Grandmother of Terry Bodkin ®84 Subject: History of Fayette Co, PA Lookups John Ingham (Ingraham, Ingram) is mentioned on p.527. While in the employ of Wm. Crawford in 1770 as an indentured servant, murdered Indian Stephen, a friend of Crawford. While being sent to Gov. Penn. for punishment, he escaped and was never heard from afterwards. Pretty interesting stuff, huh? The name is given 3 different spellings in the index. There is no listing for Thomas Shrieve(Shreve) , but there is for Samuel, (pp.710-712, 716). Sam was Lt.Col. of the First Batallion of New Jersey in the Continental line. He was the brother of Col. Israel Shreve. The Col. had a son Sam who settled in what is now the twp. of Perry in Fayette Co. and was one of the original proprietors of the town of Perryopolis. Their land was bought from George Washington. The Proprietors bought the land for the town from a George Meason, which is one of my lines. Maryalice Last Modified: 11 Mar 1998 Reference Note 29 History of Brown County, Ohio Reference Note 39 1850 U.S. Census Reference Note 47 Family Group Sheets and other materials from Dale Roehm Reference Note 52 Baby Book of Helen L. Marsh, inscribed by Birdie Shreve Marsh. Reference Note 72 Tombstone Inscriptions of Brown County, Ohio Volume I, Compiled by Lillian Colletta and Leslie Puckett, 1963. Published by Lillian Colletta, 40 Seneca Trail, Denville, New Jersey. Reference Note 84 Direct Ancestor of Terry Bodkin Terry Bodkin 675 Sonoma St. Richmond, CA 94805 tb@jps.net

Hello, Grace; Yes, I have received both of them. This is my hottest line right now and I am wondering how J. A. GOOCH fits in. Sandra in Sacramento ******************** At 03:53 PM 3/30/98 -0600, you wrote: > >Hope you get a message from me; typed wrong address; forwarded to correct >address. And, I know the word is descendants, not descendance. If I can >remember to bring the sheet I have on TIngram and JAGooch, I will e-mail you >the info. It isn't much, because I didn't take serious notes at the Kosse, TX >cemetery, thinking I would get it later from my brother and sister-in-law. I >am just striking out on my own. It IS a learning experience. --Grace > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > Grace Griffin Internet: GIGRIFFIN@UALR.EDU > Department of Chemistry Bitnet: GIGRIFFIN@UALR > University of Arkansas at Little Rock > 2801 S. University Ave. > Little Rock, AR 72204 > (501) 569-3152 FAX: (501) 569-8838 >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > Sandra [T.YLER] D.UNCAN purplevw@sl.net <ôçô> SURNAMES may or may not be documented (ô¿ô) SEEN AT: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3577 PROUD SPONSOR OF ROOTSWEB AS OF 11 SEP 1997 & 5 JAN 1998 Support RootsWeb! Go "NOW" to: http://www.rootsweb.com

Hi Ingram Researchers, I haven't posted in a while, so I will try again. Im looking for information on POLLY HAMMONDS INGRAM (INGRIM) who married a JOSEPH ESTEP in Adair Co. TN in 1812. Any information would help!!! Thanks! Richard Beckman Bunky187@Aol.Com

Hi Jay, When I first posted my search for Uriah INGRAM b about 1814 in KY, who went to IL, I got the following messages. I got a message a while back from Lyle, that there was a URIAH INGRAM b about 1750 in MD? who moved to VA and then to KY by 1788 (Wvlyle@aol.com) This URIAH"s father was Abraham INGRAM who married Rhoda Collins. (common first names included Rachel, Uriah, Abraham, William, Eleanor, Jacob, Comfort, John, Jobe, Isaac, Benjamin, Naomi, Thomas, Elizabeth) Jay, this information could very well include my John b about 1780 who had a son Uriah in KY. I also suppose your JOHN (in the family chart below) could be the father of my Uriah who was b about 1814. Did any of your INGRAMS come to KY? Another poster said his John INGRAM (about the same date) was found in Clarke Co KY. (but i have lost his email..if you are out there, could you please reply?) I just have a feeling these KY INGRAMs are related somehow. Also.....egals@jps.net (Terry) is searching for a Rachel INGRAM b 1784 who ended up in Ohio, across the river from Mason Co KY. Rachels father was said to be John INGRAM. Hope we can put this all together.... Valerie <<< >From johnj609@bellatlantic.net (Jay) Well to all the info is still the same and if anyone would like to contact |me feel free. |Jay Johnston |Johnj609@bellatlantic.net |http://members.bellatlantic.net/~johnj609 Descendants of Leatham Ingram | | 1 Leatham Ingram b: September 30, 1735 d: in West Bradford Twp., Chester |Co., Pa |. +Annie Ford d: in West Bradford Twp., Chester Co., Pa m: September 10, |1771 in Swedes Church,Wilmington, Del |........ 2 Susanna Ingram |........ 2 Jane Ingram |........ 2 Sarah Ingram |........ 2 William Ingram |........ 2 John L Ingram |........ 2 Rachel Ingram |........ 2 Mary Ingram |........ 2 Abraham Ingram |........ 2 Thomas Ingram |........ 2 Hannah Ingram | |

Hello list subscribers; This morning, I received a message from a lady that could not have come at a better time. She apologized for subscribing twice. For some time now, I have noticed that subscription notices will cross my desk that say...already subscribed. Now, I am almost as new at this as some of you, so I just ignored them, thinking it was the persnickety INTERNET or whatever. Lately, all of the lists have been slow and for many different reasons. Brian & Karen are still working with the archives, trying to make it all better for all of us, and sometimes, that involves holding messages back for a day or two. Other times, there can be power outages that hold our messages in the thin air??? OK, so I really do not know why things get slow. There are even times when a message floats somewhere in the air for a week and no one knows why. Lately, there has not been much activity on some of the lists and then it seems to surge. IMPORTANT: Because I had a large rash of "already subscribed" messages cross my desk, I went to the teckkie guys and this is what I learned: Sometimes, people subscribe to mailing lists and do not know anything about how they work unless I tell them. However, with over 2000 + persons subscribed to my lists, it is not always possible to tell everyone every thing all of the time. If you are new, there is a mailing list called, NEWBIE-L or NEWBY-L that you may want to join until you are feeling more secure. As I understand it, you are not only allowed to make dumb mistakes, you are also allowed and encouraged to ask dumb questions. Other than that, this is a new guideline that I am proposing... NOTE: THIS IS THE POINT OF THIS ENTIRE MESSAGE..... If you want to know if you are still subscribed to the list, and you are thinking about resubscribing, remember, when you resubscribe, the list always sends me a notice that a person is subscribing who is already on the list. SO...instead of subscribing AGAIN, just send the list a post about your family. That way, you will receive a copy and I will not have to alert you that the list is slow and that you are still subscribed. To see a list of the available lists, go to: http://users.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html To see the best list of genealogy links, go to: http://www.CyndisList.com/ Please feel free to contact me should you have further questions about anything. Sandra in Sacramento ******************** Sandra [T.YLER] D.UNCAN purplevw@sl.net <ôçô> SURNAMES & MAILING LISTS CAN BE (ô¿ô) SEEN AT: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3577 PROUD SPONSOR OF ROOTSWEB AS OF 11 SEP 1997 & 5 JAN 1998 Support RootsWeb! Go "NOW" to: http://www.rootsweb.com

Every so often I think it is a good idea for all of us to restate what we know about our families, so with that thought in mind, here goes again: My Arthur Ingram, or Ingraham (and I've found it spelled both ways, sometimes in the same document) first appears for certain in 1817 in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania. He took out and completed naturalization papers there in 1817, listing Indiana Township as his present residence and Belfast, Ireland as his birthplace. A deed also shows him purchasing land in Indiana township the same year. Family tradition states that he had originally migrated from Ireland to New York and that he became a sea captain, was captured by the British during the Revolution and spent eleven years in captivity before managing to escape and arriving in Pennsylvania. Obviously, the time period involved would seem to make such a story impossible. However, keeping in mind that family tradition often has some basis in fact, I have wondered if perhaps part of the story is true, that he was maybe a seaman of some rank in the War of 1812, or was impressed sometime by the British (after all, until taking out naturalization papers in 1817, he would have been a British subject), deserted whatever British ship he found himself on, and ended up in Pennsylvania in 1817. But...where did he get the money to purchase land? In any event, he seems to have prospered in Indiana township, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, since when he died in about 1852, his will left a substanial estate to his children. They were, all named in the will: Arthur b. 1823, Thomas b. 1824, David b. 1825, William John b. 1827, Henry b. 1830, and Sarah Ann b. 1832. Arthur Jr married Mary Wible about 1852 and had at least one son, named for Arthur Jr.'s younger brother, William John. This son moved to Kansas. Arthur Jr. himself lived a very interesting and active life, going to California with his brother William during the Gold Rush, and having a fight with a bear on the trip, which resulted in the limited use of his right arm from that time on. When he was in his sixties, he went to Alaska and perished of starvation on an ill-fated trip in the Yukon Country. William John Ingram, son of Arthur and Sarah, married Mary Ann Silvey in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania on 24 Jul 1851. Almost immediately, they moved to Morgan County, Ohio, where my great-grandmother, Loretta Jane Ingram was born in 1863. After the Civil War, they moved to Calloway County, Missouri, and then, by 1888 to Lyon County, Kansas, where Loretta Jane married John Willard Brewer. Loretta Jane and John Willard were my great-grandparents. If any of this connects with any family of yours, or any family you've heard of, I'd like very much to hear from you. I'll be happy to exchange information.

Hello; This is the message I have been waiting for, to show you another part of what ROOTSWEB does for us The one thing that most impresses me is the amount of mailing list we now have, over 3,000. Gad, I love this place!!! Sandra in Sacramento ******************** Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 17:35:30 -0800 (PST) To: ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com, usgenweb-all-l@rootsweb.com, rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com, listowners-announce@rootsweb.com cc: "Dr. Brian Leverich" <leverich@rootsweb.com> Newsgroups: alt.genealogy,soc.genealogy.computing,soc.genealogy.misc Reply-to: "Dr. Brian Leverich" <leverich@rootsweb.com> Subject: RootsWeb in February -- 1,000,000+ Hits Per Day Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 17:26:45 -0800 From: Brian Leverich <leverich@rootsweb.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"fH2nT.A.DMH.IKvH1"@fp-1.rootsweb.com> Resent-From: listowners-announce@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <listowners-announce@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/39 X-Loop: listowners-announce@rootsweb.com Resent-Sender: listowners-announce-request@rootsweb.com We're doing better than last month -- at least RootsWeb's posting the February statistics before the end of March. (: February was an incredible month: El Nino storms repeatedly caused us to lose power, and I wound up having to 4-wheel- drive off the mountain in a snowstorm to find and buy a generator to keep RootsWeb online. Because of our batteries and our generator, we were down only minutes even though the power was off for days. Also, Cyndi Howells' Website moved to RootsWeb right in the middle of the storms and the USGenWeb query system needed more CPU cycles and bandwidth, so we added a server and load balanced our T1 connections to the Internet right in the midst of all the snowfalls and power outages. The executive summary is that we had about 11% absolute growth during just the month of February, but that's deceptively low because February is a short month. Our actual *daily* load increased about 20%: o 29,372,613 Web files (27,751,946 in Jan) from 2,488 Websites (2,400 in Jan). - 8,602,112 were HTML pages (not images or cgi-bin) (8,308,561 in Jan). - 3,446,096 were cgi-bin database searches and such. (3,574,701 in Jan). - 17,248,967 were GIFs (15,850,655) or JPEGs (1,398,312) (15,784,790 in Jan were GIFs (14,529,204) or JPEGs (1,255,586). o 644,950 FTP file downloads from the USGenWeb Archives and the ROOTS-L Library (618,762 in Jan). NOTE: |Thanks to a neat hack by Tim Pierce, we know we oooooooo|shipped about 82,150,000 pieces of mail oooooooo|(88,649,000 in Jan) pieces of mail to the oooooooo|3,050+ (2,600 in Jan) mailing lists we host. (The 82 million is probably low; we had to archive a significant amount of mail before the count because of a disk space crunch on one of the mail servers ... ) o 60,000 alt.g and s.g.* Usenet News articles to hosts on three continents (same as Jan). o Approximately 505,361,000,000 bytes in total (451,786,000,000 in Jan). As always, RootsWeb remains supported by user contributions. Folks who would like to become a RootsWeb Member or Sponsor (the cost is very modest) are invited to visit: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html *** You can become a Member easily using your credit card and our new secure server. *** Support from the Internet genealogical community is *crucial* to RootsWeb's operation. Right now, we could be hosting many more Websites and mailing lists as well as providing many further services to the community, if only we had the resources to do so. Thanks to everyone who participates in RootsWeb -- clearly folks are continuing to exchanging a great deal of information! -B -- Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative http://www.rootsweb.com/ P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 leverich@rootsweb.com Sandra [T.YLER] D.UNCAN purplevw@sl.net <ôçô> SURNAMES & MAILING LISTS CAN BE (ô¿ô) SEEN AT: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3577 PROUD SPONSOR OF ROOTSWEB AS OF 11 SEP 1997 & 5 JAN 1998 Support RootsWeb! Go "NOW" to: http://www.rootsweb.com

To all: Being new to this list, I thought it would be a good idea to set out my Ingram of Ingraham connection. The furthest Ingram I can identify is Arthur Ingram, who settled in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania in circa 1817. He took out citizenship papers in 1817, stating that he had been born in Belfast, Ireland. In 1820 he married Sarah Stewart. He and his family are listed on the 1850 census, in Indiana Township, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, with an age of 72 for Arthur, suggesting that he was born in 1777 or 1778, and an age of 60 for Sarah. They had six children: Arthur Jr., Sarah Ann, Thomas, Henry, William, and David. On the 1850 census Henry is shown as aged 20, Sarah as 18, William J. as 22. The other children are not listed on the census, but are named in Arthur's will. His will was written in January 1853, and appears to have been probated in the same month, so that must have been when he died. William John Ingram, son of Arthur and Sarah Ingram, married Mary Ann Silvey on 24 Jul 1851 in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania. Their children were: Angelina, b. 13 Dec 1852 in Sharpsburg, PA; Alice b. 7 Jan 1855, in Sharpsburg; Mary A., b. 1 Oct 1857, in Morgan County, Ohio; John W., b. 16 Aug 1860, Morgan County, Ohio; Lauretta Jane, b. 25 Dec 1863, in Morgan County; Ida May, b. 23 Nov 1866, in Morgan County, Ohio; Eunice Estella, b. 28 Mar 1870, in Calloway County, Missouri; and William H., b. 26 Sep 1875, in Calloway County, Missouri. Sometime between 1875 and 1888, William and Mary Ann Ingram moved their family to Lyon County, Kansas, then moved to Monroe, Washington, where they both died. Lauretta Jane Ingram married John Willard Brewer on 18 Jan 1888, in Lyon County, Kansas. They were my g-grandparents. Family tradition has always held that Arthur Ingram Sr was a sea faring man, and that he had originally come to the United States in the early 1800s, living first in New York. Soon after arriving in America, he appears, again according to family tradition, to have been impressed by the British, and held by them for 11 years before escaping and returning to America, this time settling in Pennsylvania. However, since he took out citizenship papers in 1817, it would appear he had not previously been an American citizen and therefore was a British subject until 1817. How much of this is true, I have no idea. Bill Brewer