While we are talking about the LDS site -- try this address of theirs too -- the bottom has some blank census forms you can use too. Wonderful LDS Source guide page: http://32.96.111.13/sg/ Here are some more problems I have found with the LDS searching site. If anyone has an email address for the LDS persons who are making this site I would like to send these comments to them (since their feedback is not working): 4) The link to do a more refined search is NOT working 5) The keyword search DOES accept surname only (again case sensitive -- use like this: Sandage 6) If you get an error message about nothing found, the box on this error message page to resubmit another keyword search does NOT work, you must return to previous page and use the other box -- tried this with several names that I knew had hits and never could get it to work. 6) If you get answers to a keyword search and it shows that you have some sourceguides as "hits", when you click on the TITLE link -- this does NOT work -- always gives you the HTTP Error 404 -- contact your administrator as page does not exist, etc. When I glanced at the address it appears that it is not putting in WHICH source guide it is to go to, only the page number of same. Judy M.